Pale people unite! Help Tanzanian albinos!

[Majar]

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3687/motherandalbinochild.jpg

By now I'm sure you've heard of the shocking situation in Tanzania, where albino people are targeted for murder or mutilation so that witchdoctors can sell their body parts or their blood as lucky amulets. :( :mad:

If not familiar with this story, please see The Skin Trade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4ZH5UsebMc) - a documentary short film about the trade of albino human body parts for 'magical' purposes in Tanzania. Or Google 'Tanzania albinos (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=tanzania+albinos)' for more info.

I feel for them (as a fellow pale-skinned person). They have enough to deal with in life: vision issues, health problems, skin cancers, looking so different from most of the people around them, and sometimes being rejected by their own families and communities. Now they also have to worry about being kidnapped, mutilated or murdered for superstition.

Where's Oprah? Apparently she doesn't care about black people when they have white skin. Why aren't Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson denouncing these albino killings? They're probably too busy complaining about some minor offense and puffing up their own egos. :rolleyes:

If you would like to help albino people in Tanzania, you can donate to:

Tanzania Albino Centre (http://www.tanzaniaalbino.org/) in Arusha, Tanzania, which is providing sunblock and sunglasses to albinos, and raising money to build a local sunblock factory and a school for albino children.

Under the Same Sun (http://www.underthesamesun.com/), which is raising money for a health information, education and awareness center. They also have a petition campaign, and are taking up a collection (http://www.underthesamesun.com/faq.php) of specific items to be sent to Tanzania.

If you can't donate to these charities right now, it can also be a big help just to spread the word to people in your email list, let them know about the horrors being done to people only because of their light skin color. :(

[Lahtari]

Whiggers? :D

[Brännvin]

I don't fuck care!

http://randazza.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/middle-finger.jpg

...because they are albino apes!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_F-ZiQNvmhRw/SrllkQkbrZI/AAAAAAAAASs/gZnegU1AQpg/s400/albino-ape.jpg

:D

[MarcvSS]

If you can't donate to these charities right now, it can also be a big help just to spread the word to people in your email list, let them know about the horrors being done to people only because of their light skin color. :(Donate? Aren't the millions donated by my gouvernment enough?

I say fuck 'm all!!!!

[Cail]

I dont care about them more than about any other african Negro (having such a condition doesn't make them any closer to Europeans). Many (i'd say most) of them live in terrible social environment and conditions, but it is the fault of their race itself.

[Stossy]

The gouvernments donate enough and where does the money of the gouverment come from? Exactly... you and me.

I am not going to donate any money to those people, why not? Well the first reason is said in the post of TirannvSS MaximvSS and the second reason is that you can't change those people at all. The people there still believe in the witchdoctors etc. and that will never change, you can help maybe a few albino's with your money (if the money will reach the people at all because almost everything will 'disappear') and the rest will still be killed.

And by the way... we keep donating money to Africa.. but nothing is changing there.

[Fortis in Arduis]

What a pointless attention-seeking thread.

[MarcvSS]

What a pointless attention-seeking thread.I miss the point of asking help for africans on a European preservation forum...

Maybe the thought occured that africans, when supported enough will endulgde in this European preservation?

[Gooding]

So, those "poor albino Africans":rolleyes: need some color? Fine! Pour some tar over them.

[Captain Blackbeard]

Ah, the lovely smell of racism towards members of the human race who don't affect your own country.

I was feeling generous today so donated 5 euros. Not much, but it all helps.

Let's just hope it doesn't get used to aid them coming to my fucking country though.

[Lahtari]

Pale people unite!

Is this ment as an appeal to the odd case of WPWW supporter who thinks race is only skin deep? :lightbul: :D

[Brännvin]

C'mon Lahtari don't be a bitter Finn :D..albino chimps are cute!

http://www.splendoroftruth.com/curtjester/Pics/Silas.jpg

:D

[Jamt]

I feel sorry for them.

[Majar]

Some people's warped idea of European preservation shows it's true colors in this thread. A spirit of goodwill towards others, regardless of their origin, is a European trait indeed.

Did you ever think that if you have to resort to degrading the most disadvantaged people in Africa to feel good about yourself, maybe it's you who are the inferior being? :wink

As if those interested in preserving European descent identity only should ever think about themselves and their own people.. What about doing something good no matter who it is for? Would you let a person drown if they were another color? And yes, giving help to people in Africa does something to keep them there. It isn't as if I suggested everyone go adopt an albino from Africa.

Funny some are getting upset about this "off topic" thread out of the so many hundreds of others which are pointless, stupid threads which have nothing to do with the forum's subject matter. Just ignore it then, and go back to measuring the Nordishness of your armpit hairs or whatever..:coffee:

[Brännvin]

I love albino apes! :love: :love:

http://www.coachkip.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/monkey_smile-216x300.jpg

Damn cute, so horny!

[Jamt]

I love albino apes! :love: :love:

http://www.coachkip.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/monkey_smile-216x300.jpg

Damn cute, so horny!

Someday a man from the northern forests will come down and slap all the filth and sins from your faces and Skåne will finally repent and know the light.

[nisse]

By now I'm sure you've heard of the shocking situation in Tanzania, where albino people are targeted for murder or mutilation so that witchdoctors can sell their body parts or their blood as lucky amulets. :( :mad:
Now I know :fwhat: :(

But do we really have any right to help them? Or will our help, in a sense, just separate them further from their neighbours by making them even more different? Or will we be, hypocritically, bringing our "enlightened ways" and polluting their culture while we try to preserve ours? (...I'm thinking bringing democracy to Iraq...or colonization a la the French)

Although I am very sorry for their situation, I'm not sure I am in any position to offer them help.

[Brännvin]

Someday a man from the northern forests will come down and slap all the filth and sins from your faces and Skåne will finally repent and know the light.

Skåne already know the darkness take a look in Rosengård, all our generosity has brought good things to Sweden ;) oh well so off topic, let's talk about albino apes so, okej?


More cute photos;

http://www.spectacularplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/albino-ape-1.jpg

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/great-debates/46009d1248714549-why-there-racism-5722_albinos-black-people.jpg

:D

[Jamt]

You are kidding us slow souls on Apricity. That’s ok and I hope you have fun.

[Brännvin]

Good point, feye! what make me or you have to engage in some issue inside Africa? Isn't called colonialism?

Sub-Saharan people for what matter are capable for to resolve their own problems and questions regards their societies.


You are kidding us slow souls on Apricity. That’s ok and I hope you have fun.

Loki said that I can come here and post what I want, isn't Loki? :thumb001: Generally, I post on Apricity when I am playing Hitman and Assassins Creed on line :D.. no joke!

[Jamt]

Loki said that I can come here and post what I want, isn't Loki? :thumb001: Generally, I post on Apricity when I am playing Hitman and Assassins Creed on line :D.. no joke!

Loki said, bla bla, you are retarded or stoned Brännvin.

[Brännvin]

Loki said, bla bla, you are retarded or stoned Brännvin.

Who knows am I? :coffee: :D

Well, is it not hypocrisy on your part to pretend that you care for those albino kids? Get it, Africa is not your business, come on, to care about little Sven and little Malin in some immigrant populated suburb in Stockholm, where do you live isn't ? Tensta or Botkyrka? They need more of you than the African albino kids...

I learned from my Scanian Swedish ancestors, charity begins first and foremost at home ;)

[Jamt]

The kids are human beings, right Brännvin?

[MarcvSS]

Some people's warped idea of European preservation shows it's true colors in this thread. A spirit of goodwill towards others, regardless of their origin, is a European trait indeed. Europe has shown his "goodwill" plenty towards other nations. Somewhere a line has to be drawn. Maybe someday you should adress their governments about this "gooodwill" thingy of yours...

Did you ever think that if you have to resort to degrading the most disadvantaged people in Africa to feel good about yourself, maybe it's you who are the inferior being? :wink Yes maybe we are... Thats probably what decennia of giving and not receiving does to one.

As if those interested in preserving European descent identity only should ever think about themselves and their own people.. What about doing something good no matter who it is for? Would you let a person drown if they were another color? And yes, giving help to people in Africa does something to keep them there. It isn't as if I suggested everyone go adopt an albino from Africa.Damn your really making a farce out of this. Tell me please what that "just doing something good" will accomplise in this.

You make it sound like Europe does nothing for Africa. Well for the record; I never did and never will... I indeed rather help my "own"...

People here need help aswell you know...

Funny some are getting upset about this "off topic" thread out of the so many hundreds of others which are pointless, stupid threads which have nothing to do with the forum's subject matter. Just ignore it then, and go back to measuring the Nordishness of your armpit hairs or whatever..:coffee:Funny how you stand for these bleached blackies...

But I guess your "just" doing "something good"...

[Brännvin]

The kids are human beings, right Brännvin?

So I'm a cold heart because I really do not care for them :noidea:, if it was not the ze internetz or global media I wouldn't know even about their existence, not saying alone the OP :D...

[Asega]

Fact of the matter is that there is little we can do about this stuff. We Europeans are educated, we are civilized and we really have to look back a long time in our own history to see this kind of barbarism taking place in our own backyard.

We were sometimes pretty inhuman when it came to those that were born with defects. Less then 100 years ago one could buy admission tickets to the local madhouse (quite a outing on a sunday afternoon...)... and 300 years ago children born with defects were considered to be "the offspring of the devil" and treated accordingly... (in a lot of cases they were killed)

That was downright barbaric. But let's look at the Africans. They never got educated, their IQ is at least 40 points below our own and when it comes to normal human decency those guys are stuck in the Prehistory.

We Europeans did our best to educate and civilize the African. And we couldn't. They don't have the moral or intellectual capacity to improve themselves or to even comprehend simple questions of morality (perhaps even less so then people with severe mental handicaps here). So, do-gooders, whatever we did for them was and is completely futile. Every penny spend on educating the African is a waste of sound taxpayers money and should better be spend on educating and helping our own kin.

[Svanhild]

I'm not responsible for albinos in Tansania. What blacks do to albino blacks in Africa, their homeland, is neither my business nor my interest. Other cultures, other customs. My focus is on Germany, other Germanic countries and Europe as a whole, in that order. If I had 100€ to donate I'd use 75€ for Germany, 20€ for other Germanic countries and 5$ for the rest of Europe. Makes 0€ for albinos in Africa. :rolleyes: Pardon the phrase, but we've to set priorities. I'm not heartless but it's not the time to be in a generous mood.

[MarcvSS]

I'm not responsible for albinos in Tansania
Well our little liberal princess seems to think we are...

[Loki]

Well our little liberal princess seems to think we are...

This "little liberal princess" Majar is significantly smarter than most who replied in this thread. If you guys can't understand her, her wit, humour and wisdom, then don't make fools of yourselves by overreacting. It's embarrassing to read.

[MarcvSS]

This "little liberal princess" Majar is significantly smarter than most who replied in this thread. If you guys can't understand her, her wit, humour and wisdom, then don't make fools of yourselves by overreacting. It's embarrassing to read.That is merely your opinion Loki...

I speak my mind when I feel like it, the free speech on this board permitts me so (within certain set parametors), or am I mistaken?

I think she is a foolish one, trying to save the globe. Fine she has that right like others have the right to disagree...

I dont think your being fair trying to dictate others how they should respond to discussion threads...

[Brännvin]

This "little liberal princess" Majar is significantly smarter than most who replied in this thread. If you guys can't understand her, her wit, humour and wisdom, then don't make fools of yourselves by overreacting. It's embarrassing to read.

So smart, to not to answer this dumb question (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=153949&postcount=17) ;), my father told me that smart women are good in bed! :D damn it, they are :P

[Loki]

That is merely your opinion Loki...


No I think it's the reality of the situation. :)


I speak my mind when I feel like it, the free speech on this board permitts me so, or am I mistaken?


Yeah, so that includes Majar and me, right? ;)


I think she is a foolish one, trying to save the globe. Fine she has that right like others have the right to disagree...


Foolish she most certainly isn't. She's damn intelligent and has been posting on these race boards for a lot longer than most on here. She's a veteran and she's been there, done that.


I dont think your being fair trying to dictate others how they should respond to discussion threads...

I'm not dictating your response; merely adding mine.

[MarcvSS]

No I think it's the reality of the situation. :) No my friend, you are stating things... Please read back your own post.

This "little liberal princess" Majar is significantly smarter than most who replied in this thread..



Yeah, so that includes Majar and me, right? ;) Correct. No one stated otherwise.



Foolish she most certainly isn't. She's damn intelligent and has been posting on these race boards for a lot longer than most on here. She's a veteran and she's been there, done that. So you keep saying. I however didn't comment on her intellect nor her racial knowledge now did I?



I'm not dictating your response; merely adding mine.You would best read back your own post again man.

then don't make fools of yourselves by overreacting. It's embarrassing to read.Well this sure as hell don't look like debatting nor discussing...

[Brännvin]

Of course the OP had the intent to troll teh ze European prevezitionist when started this thread but she was not as intelligent as thought to answer some questions here...

Perhaps learning a little humility would be good to a smart woman even on line.. :wink

[Brynhild]

Stating matters is one thing. Behaving like mountain goats is another thing entirely. I'm unable to help these unfortunate kids, because I'm having a hard enough time looking after my own. That doesn't mean they don't deserve any form of compassion. Hats off to you, Majar, for at least addressing the matter that you see fit.

For those others, for all your views about inferior beings, there is always somebody else who would feel the same way about you. What goes around surely does come around.

[Brännvin]

Stating matters is one thing. Behaving like mountain goats is another thing entirely. I'm unable to help these unfortunate kids, because I'm having a hard enough time looking after my own. That doesn't mean they don't deserve any form of compassion. Hats off to you, Majar, for at least addressing the matter that you see fit.

For those others, for all your views about inferior beings, there is always somebody else who would feel the same way about you. What goes around surely does come around.

Excuse me, why aren't the sub-Saharan people competent to solve their own cultural issues to you :lightbul:?

To implies that only we (the ze white men) can resolve this, isn't racism, "superiority complex" and double standard?

By the way, what is the point if I really don't care?

[Loki]

By the way, what is the point if I really don't care?

Nobody cares if you don't care -- that's your choice. I personally don't care much either. It's just kinda funny that the guys who are first to jump on the "inferior race" bandwagon are usually the ones characterized by the most lowbrow postings and lack of qualitative insight.

[Brännvin]

Nobody cares if you don't care -- that's your choice. I personally don't care much either. It's just kinda funny that the guys who are first to jump on the "inferior race" bandwagon are usually the ones characterized by the most lowbrow postings and lack of qualitative insight.

What is most important to you good argumentation, (don't matter low brow or not) or pseudo intellectualism online?

...by the way, who used the "inferior race" bandwagon?

[Brynhild]

Excuse me, why aren't the sub-Saharan people competent to solve their own cultural issues to you :lightbul:?

To implies that only we (the ze white men) can resolve this, isn't racism, "superiority complex" and double standard?

By the way, what is the point if I really don't care?

Likewise, excuse me, but where did I suggest any of what you're implying? You could try some humility of your own - by thinking before speaking.

[Loki]

What is most important to you good argumentation, (don't matter low brow or not) or pseudo intellectualism online?


The former, of course! I hope you do not include your "albino apes" comments in that. Whilst humorous, I don't see how it constitutes "good argumentation".

[Brännvin]

The OP, speaking critically, was who really used, in a supposed serious way, the "inferior race" bandwagon here since she underestimates the ability of those people in dealing with their own ancient cultural issues regards their own evolvement.

Or do you not think that it has always existed and always will exist? Will our help, to be good to them, in other words, to their way of lives? Want they that?

This is pathetic, why would I, from a culture so different to want to interfere in such society which I don't have idea from what kind of values and morals they believe...

[Absinthe]

Oh dear heavens, what a shitstorm :loco:

Okay, I admit the title of the thread was a bit quirky, I personally don't feel for african albinos because they are fellow "fair-skinned" people, but because I am a human being, and I am nauseated and shocked by such an unbelievably brutal situation and I believe noone, regardless of skin color, deserves this kind of fate...

Truth is, I had seen a documentary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DVkGz-6tFo) on Greek television about it, and to be honest it shook me quite strongly, and made me think about various issues...

...but anyway? Would I help in this cause?

Well, if I wasn't unemployed and nearly broke at the moment, I would like to contribute to this cause as well, in addition to a number of other causes relating to my own people, etc.
To sum it up, if I had enough money I would like to help anyone in real need.

So what's with the jackass behavior of the males in this thread? Did she propose anything so tragic and profoundly wrong to trigger a shitstorm like that?
Did she do anything to deserve personal attacks and insults?

As for being stupid, I have been following her posts and reasoning over the years, and much as she may have controversial views at times, I can assure you that stupid is the only thing she is not - in fact she appears to be smarter by most who have behaved like man-apes here :coffee:

My two cents - have a nice day :wave

[Brännvin]

How empty wanting to intrude into the culture of other societies? And judge them based on own..

What makes you so sure for this Absinthe, have the Tanzanians agreed with you? I bet, yes..and I bet you are totally an expert in their cultural and moral values too..

Good luck so!

[The Black Prince]

Though it disgusts me morally I don't see what can be done in a quick and peacefull way to help those albinoes that are wanted for ritual medicines by part of the local pagan/superstitious african population. I say by 'part', there is undoubtedly an even large part of the local population that does not support such methods. And perhaps a larger part of the locals who are neutral about those practices or just don't care.

To solve it, one of the most thorough ways historically seen, is to replace the local 'bloodthirsty' pagan beliefs by those of one of the large monotheistic religions. Though those won't succeed in rooting out the last seeds of the local heathen traditions, they are well able to take off its sharp edges like in this case the usage of (grinded) dried human bodyparts as ritual medication.
However strong religious beliefs and its (dogmatic) institutes can have other side effects that may prove nearing or equally worse in time.

Another option is to educate the local people, so they become modern 'enlightened thinking' humans. In imaginary perfect circumstances, bringing a population to a higher plane of thinking could go fast. However in reality it is a slow process that takes many generations (with ups and downs) before a majority of a given population anywhere is on the level of being average educated.

Many things play an important part in those local peoples their lives, like surviving famine, periods of anarchy, diseases, financial insecurity, etc.. Other elements that may halter or throw back the level of education are elements like local beliefs/religious institutes, corruption, etc..
To be short getting (or providing others) with good education is one of the last things that comes to the mind of a local population that lives in a harsh world. And its a vicious circle because lack of good education makes it harder to have a good live standard and vica versa.

[Eldritch]

Oh dear heavens, what a shitstorm :loco:



Shitstorm indeed. However what strikes me as odd about the first post is the assumption that we should feel some kind of identification with African albinos because their skin color is closer to our own. It almost seems like a subtle attempt at smuggling the "race is only skin deep" argument into the discussion under the radar.

Anyway, what good has all the aid poured into Africa over the decades by the civilised world (i.e. white people) done? It's created an unprecedented population explosion that will end in disaster, and that is already to blame for massive and regular famines. It's also passivated African governments by making them dependent on foreign aid.

It's certainly not nice that people of any color are getting killed in Africa for any reason, but it's not our problem, and there is precious little we can do about it. Sure, we could throw money at the problem and make it go away for a year or two, or five years maybe. As soon as we turn our backs things'll go back to the way they were before. And in the meantime, twelve other crises would erupt that would demand intervention from us, too.

[Pale Fire]

The title of the thread was designed to catch you're attention, but I think its perfectly ridiculous. Wtf I don't think pale skin is something to be pitied and certainly not something you can compare to a horrible condition like alibism where an ancestrally black person has freakishly depigmented skin. Its a good cause that helps people, but IMO its not that big of a deal. If I were to help people in Africa, I would donate money to help feed them. The fact that I have porcelain skin does not make me feel any sorrier for a person with albinism, sorry. :rolleyes2:

[Majar]

I'm sending them some sunblock and (if I can find some locally) sun hats. When I'm able to I will donate a little to the school project. I don't want to change their culture or interfere with it. I wouldn't support the cause if it was a missionary type charity going to interfere with native cultures.

I was just joking about "pale people unite!" but I think people can, on some level, better relate to those who share something in common physically. For example, the famous cover of National Geographic with the green-eyed Afghan girl provoked American interest in the fate of Afghans during the Soviet invasion, and I think it had a lot to do with her eyes being green.

[Peachy Carnahan]

I'm sending them some sunblock and (if I can find some locally) sun hats. When I'm able to I will donate a little to the school project.

I think some boot polish and hair dye would be more usefull.

[Dominus Vobiscum]

The abuse these people suffer at the hands of pagan witch doctors and their own peoples is so funny isn't it? It's just so much of a laughing fucking matter.

Regards,
The Papist.

[Megrez]

Is there any video of the albino children being murdered in the net?

Anyway, if you want to donate, donate to russian street children: http://www.livinghope.org.nz/

[blan]

Yes i know many albinos and though they are not hunted and killed where i live they are treated like outcasts and they have a hard life.
I have heard first hand accounts on what happens to children in Africa some who are not albino but killed regardless by these voodoo obeah types.

I do not feel that as whites we should get involved but the reaction of so many people here makes me just as sick as to hearing about the killing of these albino children.
I think a good portion of the users here have some serious mental issues if they think its good that a child of any race is killed and harmed.
I dont think its our place ot send money or get into there business but to laugh at children being killed takes a sick sick person.