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Aragorn
11-06-2008, 10:58 PM
Do you believe in Reincarbnation?
Do you believe you will return in some way, some how after you have died?
Please share your thoughts here with us.
I'm not sure, because I can neither prove nor disprove it ... but I find the idea intriguing. I've read some reports of people can seemingly remember past lives.
Arrow Cross
11-07-2008, 06:49 AM
No, I don't, not remembering, or not having experienced anything resembling a "past life". Also, the Bible makes zero mention of it.
I have, however, experienced the existence, power, and saving grace of God numerous times.
Aragorn
11-07-2008, 08:19 AM
No, I don't, not remembering, or not having experienced anything resembling a "past life". Also, the Bible makes zero mention of it.
I have, however, experienced the existence, power, and saving grace of God numerous times.
Just because the bible doesn't mention it, does not mean it doesn't exist.
Arrow Cross
11-07-2008, 08:32 AM
Just because the bible doesn't mention it, does not mean it doesn't exist.
The Bible has a proof value for me. And it's not the only reason, as stated above. When I find proof of it, I'll start believing it.
Aragorn
11-07-2008, 08:39 AM
Fair enough, I respect that.
Well, Iam not a christian, so the bible value has no impact on me, but I respect people who do believe: live and let live:)
In many documented near-death experiences involving Jesus, the concept of reincarnation appears. In the NDE testimony of Jeanie Dicus, she was asked by Jesus if she would like to reincarnate or return. Sandra Rogers was asked the same question by Jesus during her NDE. One of the reasons many Christians reject the validity of near-death testimony is because they sometimes appear to conflict with their interpretation of Christian doctrines. But Christians are usually very surprised to learn that reincarnation was a doctrine once held by many early Christians. Not only that, as you will soon see there is overwhelming evidence in the Bible of Jesus himself teaching it. More Biblical evidence can be found in Herbert Puryear's outstanding book entitled Why Jesus Taught Reincarnation and Dr. Quincy Howe, Jr.'s excellent book entitled Reincarnation for the Christian.
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen03.html
King James Bible & Reincarnation
Scriptures from the King James Version of the Bible which hint at Reincarnation. Reincarnation was taught in the Roman Catholic Church until 553 A.D. when it was voted out (3-2) at the Council of Constantinople.
Gen 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. (Reincarnation referred to here)
Deu 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. (Karma)
Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.
Job 4:8 Even as I have seen, they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same. (Karma)
Job 8 (Reincarnation in Chapter 8)
Psa 7 (Karma chapter)
Psa 7:15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. (Karma)
Psa 7:16 His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate. (Karma)
Psa 9:16 The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah. (Karma)
Psa 90:1 (Reincarnation verses 1-6)
Prov 6:27 Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned? (Karma 27-28)
Prov 8:22 (Reincarnation 22-31)
Prov 12:14 (Karma)
Prov 24:12 If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works? (Karma)
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. (Reincarnation)
Jer 25:14 For many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of them also: and I will recompense them according to their deeds, and according to the works of their own hands. (Karma)
Hosea 8:7 For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up. (Karma)
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: (Reincarnation - John the Baptist was Elijah.)
Mat 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. (Reincarnation when Elias returned as John the Baptist.)
Mat 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. (Karma)
Mat 16:14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. (Reincarnation)
Mat 17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. Mat 17:12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Mat 17:13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist. (Reincarnation)
Mat 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. (Karma)
Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again. (Karma)
John 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. (Without knowing what someone's karma is, how can one judge another?)
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. (Free from rebirth on this planet of pain and suffering.)
John 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? (This is an open reference to the Law of Rebirth - Reincarnation - "This man" could only have caused his sin if karma were in effect.)
Rom 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: (Karma)
1 Cor 3:8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. (Karma)
2 Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. (Karma)
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, (Reincarnation - until you become perfect sons of God.)
Gal 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden. (Karma, each man must pay for what he has done, both good and bad.)
Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Karma! The original scripture said "even though the reaping come a thousand years hence." The Law of Rebirth must be accepted by anyone who wishes to enter into the new wisdom schools.)
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. (Reincarnation - The law of rebirth may come to an end to those who overcome this earth - become a Master of the planet.)
Rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. (Karma)
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. (Reincarnation)
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. (Karma)
http://www.powerattunements.com/article42.html
I would like to have your opinion on this, Arrow Cross
Arrow Cross
11-07-2008, 08:43 AM
Good. Well, my late grandmother also believed in such things, despite being a Christian, but these verses are not obviously refering to reincarnation. "Being born again" has a lot of significance in the New Testament, but it means a spiritual reborn in one's life that is accepting Christ as saviour and master over one's life.
The Dragonslayer
11-11-2008, 08:27 PM
I think it's an interesting possibility. I have come across a few Christians who believe in it. Anybody here ever read any Edgar Cayce?
Aragorn
11-11-2008, 08:48 PM
I think it's an interesting possibility. I have come across a few Christians who believe in it. Anybody here ever read any Edgar Cayce?
yes, Edgar Cayce is a interesting character.
Gnostics seems to have developt a believe in reincarnation though.
The Dragonslayer
11-12-2008, 12:25 AM
yes, Edgar Cayce is a interesting character.
Gnostics seems to have developt a believe in reincarnation though.
I think many of the Gnostic sects tended to have some sort of belief in reincarnation. It is a fascinating topic. Who knows. I guess we'll find out when we die. I really don't see why it couldn't be possible. I have read some Edgar Cayce books myself. He's the one that helped me see that there were Christians who believed in it. I've met others since I first discovered his books.
Saksenland
11-13-2008, 08:53 AM
I think so, Yes.
Not certain, but I like to believe so
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