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Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 05:08 PM
I've spent the past few days trolling this Islamic Forum - http://www.gawaher.com/index.php? - and it's fucking frightening how many of them say they will convert the West, or it will be destroyed. Never let anyone try and tell you it's just a tiny minority of fanatics among them. Anyone want to join me for the fun?

Guapo
09-12-2010, 05:13 PM
I've spent the past few days trolling this Islamic Forum - http://www.gawaher.com/index.php? - and it's fucking frightening how many of them say they will convert the West, or it will be destroyed. Never let anyone try and tell you it's just a tiny minority of fanatics among them. Anyone want to join me for the fun?

You're a troll? :confused:

Wyn
09-12-2010, 05:17 PM
I've spent the past few days trolling this Islamic Forum - http://www.gawaher.com/index.php? - and it's fucking frightening how many of them say they will convert the West, or it will be destroyed. Never let anyone try and tell you it's just a tiny minority of fanatics among them. Anyone want to join me for the fun?

Links to your trolling?

Gatillo
09-12-2010, 05:22 PM
Hey look, a chav using a PC.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 05:29 PM
You're a troll? :confused:

Not really, but they've accused me of such. In fact I've been having long intellectual arguments with some of the slightly less brain-dead ones.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 05:30 PM
Hey look, a chav using a PC.

Please use it correctly, if you're going to try and show off by using English idiom. You cannot possibly know if I'm a chav, because you have no idea what I'm wearing.

Gatillo
09-12-2010, 05:32 PM
You conduct yourself as one of them

ironman
09-12-2010, 05:33 PM
Not really, but they've accused me of such. In fact I've been having long intellectual arguments with some of the slightly less brain-dead ones.

Why bother pissing about with them?

Ibericus
09-12-2010, 05:34 PM
Not really, but they've accused me of such. In fact I've been having long intellectual arguments with some of the slightly less brain-dead ones.
How not you are a troll ? You behave like all the non-white retardeds who are obsessed with Spain

Guapo
09-12-2010, 05:41 PM
because you have no idea what I'm wearing.

Probably naked like teh Daughters of Frya. Be sure to wipe the dagos off your chair after.

Peasant
09-12-2010, 06:15 PM
Chav is a word the Daily Mail loves to ridicule those lowly poors with. I am tempted to sign up to that forum and spam it with drawings of Mohammed.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 06:17 PM
Why bother pissing about with them?

I wanted to see how widespread their hatred of us is.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 06:18 PM
How not you are a troll ? You behave like all the non-white retardeds who are obsessed with Spain

It's only natural, is it not, that Spaniards should be obsessed with Spain.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 06:19 PM
Chav is a word the Daily Mail loves to ridicule those lowly poors with. I am tempted to sign up to that forum and spam it with drawings of Mohammed.

They'll block you. You have to do it carefully.

Gatillo
09-12-2010, 06:23 PM
It's only natural, is it not, that Spaniards should be obsessed with Spain.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/778667/80655217.jpg

Gamera
09-12-2010, 06:33 PM
I'm sorry, that's quite of a dumb thing to do. I'd expect something like that from a member of Stormfront or something... oh well.

Thraex
09-12-2010, 06:54 PM
I'm sorry, that's quite of a dumb thing to do. I'd expect something like that from a member of Stormfront or something... oh well.

Well, considering how the troll doesn't consider Spaniards to be white... it's not unexpected of him.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 07:15 PM
Another thing I've discvovered - as I had long suspected - is that the Muslims see us as weak. From their point of view terrorism has worked, because it has made the West seek dialogue and negotiation. They think we fear them. Well they're right, we do. But they haven't actually thought it through. The West has the power to obliterate every city in the Muslim world within minutes. If we fear them too much, that's exactly what's going to happen.

Eldritch
09-12-2010, 07:34 PM
Chav is a word the Daily Mail loves to ridicule those lowly poors with. I am tempted to sign up to that forum and spam it with drawings of Mohammed.

You should ask them how much of this fine introduction to the Islamic faith (http://lolokaust.com/guides/islam.html) is accurate.

Crossbow
09-12-2010, 07:36 PM
Another thing I've discvovered - as I had long suspected - is that the Muslims see us as weak. From their point of view terrorism has worked, because it has made the West seek dialogue and negotiation. They think we fear them. Well they're right, we do. But they haven't actually thought it through. The West has the power to obliterate every city in the Muslim world within minutes. If we fear them too much, that's exactly what's going to happen.


Well, at least that is effective. Until the moment you show strength and violence, they don't get it.
However with the current politicians in charge now, it is more likely to believe they'll use that power against us.

Inese
09-12-2010, 07:44 PM
Hm Wulfhere, please make a thread in their forum and post the photo with the sentence "Mekka ---- Celebration of Ramadan 2011!" :D :joy:bounce
http://shiitehappens.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/bomb_mecca450.jpg

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 07:48 PM
Hm Wulfhere, please make a thread in their forum and post the photo with the sentence "Mekka ---- Celebration of Ramadan 2011!" :D :thumbs up

http://shiitehappens.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/bomb_mecca450.jpg

Lol, I've already suggested that the West might do precisely that to them, during Hajj. One of them responded that we wouldn't because the fallout might drift over Israel.

Inese
09-12-2010, 07:59 PM
Lol, I've already suggested that the West might do precisely that to them, during Hajj. One of them responded that we wouldn't because the fallout might drift over Israel.
Ok but why should that be a problem for us?? :vampire:nicetongue

Sahson
09-12-2010, 08:10 PM
maybe for the balkans... Wulfhere, can you PM the thread you trolled in, please

Thanks.

Svipdag
09-12-2010, 08:11 PM
The only introduction to Islam that is needed is to read the "glorious" Qur'an.
Tedious though that task undeniably is, it will suffice to reveal where the Muslims stand and what they intend, for the "glorious" Qur'an is Muhammad's "Mein Kampf".

If one understand what he has read, it should be obvious that Islam is NOT a religion of peace and that it IS the sworn enemy of every other religion and every other culture in the world.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 08:20 PM
Ok but why should that be a problem for us?? :vampire:nicetongue

They seemed to think it would stop us, but I pointed out that if we were provoked enough, nothing would. I also suggested we could obliterate every single Muslim city within minutes.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 08:26 PM
maybe for the balkans... Wulfhere, can you PM the thread you trolled in, please

Thanks.

This is the one where I mention the nukes, though there are quite a lot of others I've been involved in:

http://www.gawaher.com/index.php?showtopic=733323.html&

Sahson
09-12-2010, 08:46 PM
Yeah I saw that, the 4 husband one, is funny, but also quite shocking. The cultural difference is still there?

Thraex
09-12-2010, 08:48 PM
Hm Wulfhere, please make a thread in their forum and post the photo with the sentence "Mekka ---- Celebration of Ramadan 2011!" :D :joy:bounce
http://shiitehappens.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/bomb_mecca450.jpg

Is lowering the bar to their level the way? I don't think so.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 08:50 PM
Yeah I saw that, the 4 husband one, is funny, but also quite shocking. The cultural difference is still there?

Though I was expecting some pretty barbaric stuff, some of it surprised even me.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 08:52 PM
Is lowering the bar to their level the way? I don't think so.

It's all they understand I'm afraid, this recent investigation having confirmed that. Every attempt at moderation, mediation and appeasement they interpret as weakness, and will seek to take even more.

The Lawspeaker
09-12-2010, 08:53 PM
Maybe later :) The very word "Islam" brings out the WORST in me.

Praamžius
09-12-2010, 09:01 PM
Their forum is just as their religion blank,filled with ad's & posters and muslims writing like a flirting homosexuals

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 09:44 PM
I've just been banned from that forum. It's up to others now...

Thraex
09-12-2010, 09:45 PM
It's all they understand I'm afraid, this recent investigation having confirmed that. Every attempt at moderation, mediation and appeasement they interpret as weakness, and will seek to take even more.

Why are you talking to me?

Ibericus
09-12-2010, 09:46 PM
I've just been banned from that forum. It's up to others now...
And you'll be banned here also. You are not one of us

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 09:46 PM
Why are you talking to me?

Was I? Can't really remember.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 09:47 PM
And you'll be banned here also. You are not one of us

I'm certainly not Iberian, if that's what you mean.

Thraex
09-12-2010, 09:47 PM
Was I? Can't really remember.

So much for your super British brain.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 09:53 PM
This is the reason I was given. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

Its obvious that you are an enemy of Islam. Please find another forum to spread your venom. This is a peaceful forum about a peaceful religion.
If in the future you found the truth about Islam, let me know and I'll re-welcome you back.
Best wishes.

Don Brick
09-12-2010, 09:54 PM
Your behavior hardly makes you anymore civilized than the people you are trolling. A troll is always a troll whether it be a Christian or a Muslim.

Thraex
09-12-2010, 09:54 PM
This is the reason I was given. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

Its obvious that you are an enemy of Islam. Please find another forum to spread your venom. This is a peaceful forum about a peaceful religion.
If in the future you found the truth about Islam, let me know and I'll re-welcome you back.
Best wishes.

Like we want to hear your sob story.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 09:55 PM
Like we want to hear your sob story.

It's not a sob story you moron but an account of my investigation. You don't have to read it.

Thraex
09-12-2010, 09:57 PM
It's not a sob story you moron but an account of my investigation. You don't have to read it.

It is a sob story of your banning from that website where we couldn't give a shit about your latest trolling activities.

Falkata
09-12-2010, 10:01 PM
Fuck you, you deserved it

Ibericus
09-12-2010, 10:02 PM
I'm certainly not Iberian, if that's what you mean.
Southern Europeans are more European than your backwards barbarian Marcians who hasn't done shit in history

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 10:02 PM
Fuck you, you deserved it

Eh? Do you think I'm pissed off or something that they booted me off?

Matematik
09-12-2010, 10:04 PM
It's painfully obvious they want Islam to take over the West, that is the driving force behind Islam. Only brainwashed, PC hippies believe otherwise.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 10:05 PM
It's painfully obvious they want Islam to take over the West, that is the driving force behind Islam. Only brainwashed, PC hippies believe otherwise.

They made it very clear indeed - blatantly so.

Thraex
09-12-2010, 10:06 PM
They made it very clear indeed - blatantly so.

I acutally won't mind seeing the Arabs take over the British Isles as long they left continental Europe alone.

Falkata
09-12-2010, 10:10 PM
Eh? Do you think I'm pissed off or something that they booted me off?

It seems so. Why would you open a thread about it then?

Matematik
09-12-2010, 10:10 PM
I acutally won't mind seeing the Arabs take over the British Isles as long they left continental Europe alone.

What's it to you, they've already taken the Yugoslav over. Most of you are mongrels the Turks forget to take back with them.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 10:12 PM
It seems so. Why would you open a thread about it then?

Just to tell people what happened, if they were interested.

Thraex
09-12-2010, 10:13 PM
What's it to you, they've already taken the Yugoslav over. Most of you are mongrels the Turks forget to take back with them.

You are a mongrel. You are both British and Japanese. And hybrids are mongrels I believe, so bye!

Thraex
09-12-2010, 10:14 PM
Just to tell people what happened, if they were interested.

I'm quite shocked to find out that you think people are interested in your daily trolling drivel.

Wulfhere
09-12-2010, 10:16 PM
I'm quite shocked to find out that you think people are interested in your daily trolling drivel.

I was doing more than just trolling. I was attempting to get them to show me their true intentions and what they think of us. Which they did. And these are just your ordinary Muslims-in-the-street.

Thraex
09-12-2010, 10:17 PM
I was doing more than just trolling. I was attempting to get them to show me their true intentions and what they think of us. Which they did. And these are just your ordinary Muslims-in-the-street.

Yeah, whatever floats your boat.

The Lawspeaker
09-12-2010, 10:20 PM
What makes you lot suddenly so Islamfreundlich ?

Groenewolf
09-12-2010, 10:20 PM
Another thing I've discvovered - as I had long suspected - is that the Muslims see us as weak.

Do you need to post on their forums to find that out? Just reading them should be enough.


They think we fear them. Well they're right, we do. But they haven't actually thought it through. The West has the power to obliterate every city in the Muslim world within minutes. If we fear them too much, that's exactly what's going to happen.

Actually that is not going to happen if it stays with fear alone. However if it changes into hate and/or a resolve to remove the source of the fear, then they will be the ones that have something to fear.

But bombing all there cities does little about the ones already being here and taking part in elections and forming an ever increasing voting block. That is a problem that has to be dealt with first. Which of course includes becoming independent from oil, so they can no longer use it as a means for black mail.


I actually won't mind seeing the Arabs take over the British Isles as long they left continental Europe alone.

Yes, let them take over a country with nuclear weapons :rolleyes2: . And do you really believe they will leave the rest of Europe alone?

Thraex
09-12-2010, 10:21 PM
What makes you lot suddenly so Islamfreundlich ?

I simply see no point in lowering our standards when we are so much better than this. If we have to lower to their standards then you know we are doomed.

Matematik
09-12-2010, 10:40 PM
I simply see no point in lowering our standards when we are so much better than this. If we have to lower to their standards then you know we are doomed.

Hardly, we (well, the British, French and Americans) have the power to destroy the whole of the Middle East. We are doomed when we become complacent to these untermensch invading our country.

Crossbow
09-12-2010, 10:42 PM
I simply see no point in lowering our standards when we are so much better than this. If we have to lower to their standards then you know we are doomed.

Did we lower our standards in the past centuries ( Poitiers 732, Vienna 1683, your own country 1386 it was if I'm not mistaken?, Mohacs 1526, Spain 711-1492...) as well, when European armies were fighting them? They attack us now, using our own means (democracy), with other weapons e.g. breeding like rabbits. Basically I can't see any difference between their goals then and now.
We now think we can afford us to embrace higher moral standards, but it won't help us.

Thorum
09-12-2010, 11:12 PM
I've spent the past few days trolling this Islamic Forum - http://www.gawaher.com/index.php? - and it's fucking frightening how many of them say they will convert the West, or it will be destroyed. Never let anyone try and tell you it's just a tiny minority of fanatics among them. Anyone want to join me for the fun?

I commend your efforts. To know your enemy is to beat him...:icon_yell:

Thraex
09-13-2010, 11:23 AM
Did we lower our standards in the past centuries ( Poitiers 732, Vienna 1683, your own country 1386 it was if I'm not mistaken?, Mohacs 1526, Spain 711-1492...) as well, when European armies were fighting them? They attack us now, using our own means (democracy), with other weapons e.g. breeding like rabbits. Basically I can't see any difference between their goals then and now.
We now think we can afford us to embrace higher moral standards, but it won't help us.

We can still have high standards which is the foundation of European civilization and fight the invaders at the same time. There isn't much point in spewing hate and be barbaric like them.

Libertas
09-13-2010, 11:27 AM
We can fight this menace by actually having more children!

The Lawspeaker
09-13-2010, 11:32 AM
We can fight this menace by actually having more children!
We can't keep up. The only solution is them to kick the whole lot out and just go on having the number of children needed to make the population shrink slowly (at least in the Netherlands).

Crossbow
09-13-2010, 12:46 PM
We can still have high standards which is the foundation of European civilization and fight the invaders at the same time. There isn't much point in spewing hate and be barbaric like them.

You're right, we should put an end to it in a practical, clinical way. To avoid the accumulation of hate though, we must prevent them from entering the gate from now on.

Tyrrhenoi
09-13-2010, 12:49 PM
How about half-bloods?


You are a mongrel. You are both British and Japanese. And hybrids are mongrels I believe, so bye!

:)mmm.... how about a hybrid between europeans? are they mongrels aswell?

Tyrrhenoi
09-13-2010, 12:51 PM
You're right, we should put an end to it in a practical, clinical way.

How, by deportation? are you kidding me?

Crossbow
09-13-2010, 01:01 PM
What about half bloods

There are not so many, are there? I mean, mixed Muslim marriages are rather the exception, and often they fail, leaving broken families.
Generally speaking I would say: 'if you're not with us, you're against us':D

Crossbow
09-13-2010, 01:04 PM
How, by deportation? are you kidding me?

Kick them out, yes. They can leave by boat, by train, by car, whatever.

Tyrrhenoi
09-13-2010, 01:09 PM
Kick them out, yes. They can leave by boat, by train, by car, whatever.

Such plan could never be realised ... it's not the dutch way of doing things...
How about forced-assimilation? Roman style :D

Megrez
09-13-2010, 01:26 PM
Such plan could never be realised ... it's not the dutch way of doing things...
How about forced-assimilation? Roman style :D
Aren't your Westeuropean governments already forcingly assimilating the muslims into your countries?

Tyrrhenoi
09-13-2010, 01:28 PM
Aren't your Westeuropean governments already forcingly assimilating the muslims into your countries?

Nop - they promote 'multi-culturalism' - assimilation is a taboe in Holland

Crossbow
09-13-2010, 01:31 PM
Such plan could never be realised ... it's not the dutch way of doing things...
How about forced-assimilation?

Too late now. This could have been realized with small numbers, without even noticing it. Apart from this, and you already stressed it, they do not want to assimilate.
And I don't want them to assimilate either.
They will weaken our Dutch (and whatever European nation's) identity, imagine all those Third World (Muslim) hybrids.
The Dutch way has never been a succesful one in this matter, but hopefully we can evade drastical measures, while we're still the majority...

Ibericus
09-13-2010, 01:51 PM
It's only natural, is it not, that Spaniards should be obsessed with Spain.
hmm..actually the concept of 'whiteness' was created by Spaniards/Portguese in the colonization of America. So if anyone has to be white that is Iberians

Inese
09-13-2010, 02:22 PM
How about forced-assimilation? Roman style :D
Assimilation is Völkermord and ethnic degeneration!! :mad: Are you crazy?? "Roman style" is wrong ---- "German style" is better. You know, the hard and intolerant way of kick them out. :nod:

Guapo
09-13-2010, 04:37 PM
Assimilation is Völkermord and ethnic degeneration!! :mad: Are you crazy?? "Roman style" is wrong ---- "German style" is better. You know, the hard and intolerant way of kick them out. :nod:

Greek style is the best! I want to do that with you! :mad: :mad: :D

Smaland
09-13-2010, 04:50 PM
Another thing I've discvovered - as I had long suspected - is that the Muslims see us as weak. From their point of view terrorism has worked, because it has made the West seek dialogue and negotiation. They think we fear them. Well they're right, we do. But they haven't actually thought it through. The West has the power to obliterate every city in the Muslim world within minutes. If we fear them too much, that's exactly what's going to happen.

Not me.

Sahson
09-13-2010, 05:06 PM
We can fight this menace by actually having more children!

I hope to have 3 healthy children. :)


We can't keep up. The only solution is them to kick the whole lot out and just go on having the number of children needed to make the population shrink slowly (at least in the Netherlands).

I mentioned this in another thread (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=264384&postcount=25) that for some reason hasn't been discussed enough considering we are all about preserving our culture, and identity.

The reality is scary...

Aemma
09-13-2010, 05:10 PM
Another thing I've discvovered - as I had long suspected - is that the Muslims see us as weak. From their point of view terrorism has worked, because it has made the West seek dialogue and negotiation. They think we fear them. Well they're right, we do. But they haven't actually thought it through. The West has the power to obliterate every city in the Muslim world within minutes. If we fear them too much, that's exactly what's going to happen.

Not unless Pakistan manages to hit their little red button first, pre-emptively. Then we're all up the creek without a paddle.

Groenewolf
09-13-2010, 05:19 PM
Such plan could never be realized ... it's not the dutch way of doing things...

Depend on what Dutch way you are talking about. Apartheid adopted by Dutch settlers in South-Africa? The Geuzen style ? :

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2626/martelarengorkumrw7.jpg

Heck I even read an interview with a Dutchmen serving in the Foreign Legion who states that we have the capacity to do some very radical measures. It is a bit like with the old wolf who remains calm for a very long time. But when he bites the only change you will have to learn from it if you where luckily enough to survive.


How about forced-assimilation? Roman style :D

Bad plan. Lets return them to their countries of origin and there they can live pretty much as they please. Only thing of value they have there is oil.

Besides the White mens burden to civilize the savages let to a strong waste of resources and good blood for Europe. No need to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Libertas
09-13-2010, 06:25 PM
Such plan could never be realised ... it's not the dutch way of doing things...
How about forced-assimilation? Roman style :D

There was no forced assimilation Roman style.

Tyrrhenoi
09-13-2010, 07:48 PM
Assimilation is Völkermord and ethnic degeneration!! :mad: Are you crazy?? "Roman style" is wrong ---- "German style" is better. You know, the hard and intolerant way of kick them out. :nod:

Wait wait wait wait..... "German style"? You mean the endlosung?
konzentrationslager?

ARE YOU FUCKING NUTS???

Are there any christians here, to back me up?


There was no forced assimilation Roman style.

What? you think they conquered all those lands by giving the enemy flowers and a big kiss?

The Lawspeaker
09-13-2010, 08:25 PM
Hmmm...

Temporal internment camps would be a good idea though but not just for Muslims but for all western and non-western immigrants that entered this country under false pretences: if you're found to be unfit to remain in the country and a danger to our country they should intern you for the time being until you can be send back to your country.

http://www.wereldoorlog1418.nl/engelsekamp/foto-kamp-04.jpg

http://www.destentor.nl/multimedia/archive/00607/ST_STREEEKBELGENFOT_607029h.jpg


Think about well out-fitted barracks or houses each with a communal garden and a playground, A clinic, canteen and kitchen, a library, barracks for the guards surrounded by a normal barbwire fence. Those people that are to be send there will be treated according to all laws but they are internees for the time being. And they are most definitely not to be harmed or humiliated but in order to make sure the internees keep a daily routine they can be provided with allotment gardens where they can grow food in order to supplement their rations, a library where they can educate themselves (in their own language) and a forest where some can work as a work detail.


Like in Sweden during World War II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_camps_in_Sweden_during_World_War_II):
Despite the isolation and concentration of internees, the standard of living was relatively high in comparison to the Nazi concentration camps. Wardens were instructed to ensure humane treatment of internees. All internees were forced to wear certain uniform and submit daily routines. Internees in Smedsbo concentration camp had a typical daily routine of being woken up at 7.15, they were then escorted to the dining room where they were expected to have their breakfast in complete silence followed by working passes. They were not permitted to leave their working station at any time. Jobs like road building, repair duty and woodcutting were commonly adopted. With one break for lunch, work proceeded until 14.45, after which internees were more or less free for the rest of the day.[5]

Internment is not like sending them to Auschwitz what Inese seems to propose and was done during war (including by the Netherlands) in order to make sure that prisoners of war (from belligerent countries that fled across our borders), possible enemy citizens and those that could be a danger to the country are kept under lock and key and when the time comes deported ouf of the country.



A lot of people might leave voluntarily though so only those that really want to make trouble could be send there until the Air Force can bring them home. But for those that still want to ruffle some feathers when they are being kicked out: put them in a straight jacket with a mask on and let them be taken by armed soldiers with, if necessary, a license to kill:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Baltic_extration_-_1946.jpg

Tyrrhenoi
09-14-2010, 01:09 PM
Yeah... I get it.. like Lampedusa?

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/53139554.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDF584F3D949F46CD2 F60CB1203261FDA5A7AD4BB897B03D84B01E70F2B3269972

http://www.rfi.fr/actufr/images/079/carte_sit_lampedusa432.gif

I think that such kamps should be on direct supervision of a humanrights-organisation, the conditions of such kamps must been good! I still don't like the idea to enprison innocent people in baracks and kamps...

I don't know if you mean an 'uitzetcentra' like in Holland? I think you have got something on a lager scale in your mind....

http://www.dienstterugkeerenvertrek.nl/images/Uitzetcentrum%20Schiphol_tcm66-98873.jpg

The Lawspeaker
09-14-2010, 02:20 PM
Something like Lampedusa but onder the joint control of the International Red Cross and the Dutch authorities with routine inspections by international organisations.

And yes.. it will be on a far bigger scale then the "uitzetcentra" ( an attempt to translate the word for the non-Dutch amongst us: "centres of deportation" / "centres of extradition").

Inese
09-14-2010, 02:51 PM
Wait wait wait wait..... "German style"? You mean the endlosung?
konzentrationslager?

ARE YOU FUCKING NUTS???
You read my sentence again, will you!? I was saying ..."to kick them out"!! Kick them out doesnt mean killing, you know? :coffee:

And no im not nuts ---- the only one with nuts are you, two nuts. Small italian nuts! :eviltongue:

Tyrrhenoi
09-14-2010, 02:59 PM
"German style" is better. You know, the hard and intolerant way of kick them out. :nod:

I've never heard of the German-Nazis kicking out jews out of Germany/Europe They kicked them out allright - through the chimneys!

You should watch you words and not use "funny" metaphors you don't even understand, girl!

Tyrrhenoi
09-14-2010, 03:03 PM
And no im not nuts ---- the only one with nuts are you, two nuts. Small italian nuts! :eviltongue:

hihiihihi you'r funny:D:p

Detfri
09-14-2010, 03:16 PM
Assimilation is Völkermord and ethnic degeneration!! :mad: Are you crazy?? "Roman style" is wrong ---- "German style" is better. You know, the hard and intolerant way of kick them out. :nod:

:eek:

Are you totally out of mind?

You are the shame of the female gender: how to make women pass for idiots!

At least if you used your words I could take you only for exalted, but you even repeat words of others. More useless than this....

The Lawspeaker
09-14-2010, 03:21 PM
I remember that in a history book a German expressed it like this "Es gibt ein Weg zum Freiheit... durch die Kamin !" ("There is a way to freedom... through the smokestack".)

Crossbow
09-14-2010, 03:26 PM
I've never heard of the German-Nazis kicking out jews out of Germany/Europe They kicked them out allright - through the chimneys!

You should watch you words and not use "funny" metaphors you don't even understand, girl!

That is not the whole truth. Before the war broke out, there were large programs and an organization had been created (with the help of the German authorities, including the SS) to let the Jews emigrate to Palestina unhindered.
In this way, the Nazis could get rid of many Jews, just by letting them leave the country, and actively helping them to do so.

Inese
09-14-2010, 03:27 PM
I've never heard of the German-Nazis kicking out jews out of Germany/Europe They kicked them out allright - through the chimneys!
Im sick of your fantasizing! :mad:Where i was talking about jews?? SHOW ME WHERE?? I was saying that the German way to kick people out is better, and Germans kicked out minoritys. The killing process was started later. Im not talking about killing muslims but to kick them out without mercy and tolerance!! The only way they understand we dont want them.

And Romanqueen why do you dont explode?? Im not talking to you but you always join and talk garbage!! :rolleyes2: You know, youre like typical italian mamas in movies who cant shut up and cry out of the window over the whole street to the husband and other people. Go to Rome and lick a statue of a roman emperor of the past but dont go on my nerves you cow! :coffee:

Detfri
09-14-2010, 03:33 PM
[QUOTE=Inese;266423]

And Romanqueen why do you dont explode?? Im not talking to you but you always join and talk garbage!! :rolleyes2: You know, youre like typical italian mamas in movies who cant shut up and cry out of the window over the whole street to the husband and other people. Go to Rome and lick a statue of a roman emperor of the past but dont go on my nerves you cow! :coffee:QUOTE]

By your temperament you could neither pass for Italian but directly for Neapolitan.
Said that, Germans DIDN'T kick them out with MERCY, but killed 6 millions Jews. Muslims or Jews it makes no difference and it does not exist a mercy way to kick people out. You have to prevent the entrances. And if we speak of "mercy way without killing", Italians did better, becouse we sent them in lagers but didn't kill them. It was when Germans came that they started to kill Jews also in Italy.

Tyrrhenoi
09-14-2010, 03:39 PM
That is not the whole truth. Before the war broke out, there were large programs and an organization had been created (with the help of the German authorities, including the SS) to let the Jews emigrate to Palestina unhindered.
In this way, the Nazis could get rid of many Jews, just by letting them leave the country, and actively helping them to do so.

About 50.000 Jews compared with 6.000.000?

Yep and for economical reasons :D

The Haavara Agreement was highly controversial. While it helped persecuted Jews emigrate from Germany, it provided a major market for German goods in Palestine. This helped Germany's weak economy at a time when many Jews were boycotting the country's goods.

Inese
09-14-2010, 03:43 PM
Get history lessons, will you?? Germans kicked more people out in history and before jews were killed they were sent away and kicked out of the country!! Cant you read?? I said that in the last posting and read the post of Crossbow. And learn German its not my problem if you cant understand it. :rolleyes2: Endlösung means final solution but there was a solution before final solution and it was kicking out people ok!?! And i was not only talking about the Germans in nazi era but also before!! Why cant you understand words, you tell me!? :mad: Or do you only understand things when it comes from oh mega bella italia brothers and sisters??

Tyrrhenoi
09-14-2010, 03:48 PM
Get history lessons, will you?? Germans kicked more people out in history and before jews were killed they were sent away and kicked out of the country!! Cant you read?? I said that in the last posting and read the post of Crossbow. And learn German its not my problem if you cant understand it. :rolleyes2: Endlösung means final solution but there was a solution before final solution and it was kicking out people. And i was not only talking about the Germans in nazi era but also before!! Why cant you understand words, you tell me!? :mad: Or do you only understand things when it comes from oh mega bella italia brothers and sisters??

Me? History lessons? Am I talking with the person who said that Italy could not have communication and electricity if it was not for the northern countries ??

While Marconi invented the Telegraph/Radio
And Volta (Volt) invented the Electrical battery

Child... go to school!

Falkata
09-14-2010, 04:13 PM
I´d donate my kidneys just to see a mud fight between Inese and Romanqueen

Detfri
09-14-2010, 04:27 PM
Get history lessons, will you?? Germans kicked more people out in history and before jews were killed they were sent away and kicked out of the country!! Cant you read?? I said that in the last posting and read the post of Crossbow. And learn German its not my problem if you cant understand it. :rolleyes2: Endlösung means final solution but there was a solution before final solution and it was kicking out people ok!?! And i was not only talking about the Germans in nazi era but also before!! Why cant you understand words, you tell me!? :mad: Or do you only understand things when it comes from oh mega bella italia brothers and sisters??

I perfectly understand German, French and Spanish too, not only English (and a bit, but very few, of Romanian and Portuguese).
And I will answer you in German:

ein so dummes Mädchen kannte nur mir passieren.

Guapo
09-14-2010, 04:38 PM
I´d donate my kidneys just to see a mud fight between Inese and Romanqueen

Me too, as long as Svanhild is the referee.

Detfri
09-14-2010, 04:39 PM
I´d donate my kidneys just to see a mud fight between Inese and Romanqueen

Very funny, eh? i like to provocate her, becouse how she answers makes me laugh too much :rolleyes:

Guapo
09-14-2010, 04:40 PM
Very funny, eh? i like to provocate her, becouse how she answers makes me laugh too much :rolleyes:

Her posts are better than reading an erotic novel. Gets me going.

Thraex
09-14-2010, 05:14 PM
Get history lessons, will you?? Germans kicked more people out in history and before jews were killed they were sent away and kicked out of the country!! Cant you read?? I said that in the last posting and read the post of Crossbow. And learn German its not my problem if you cant understand it. :rolleyes2: Endlösung means final solution but there was a solution before final solution and it was kicking out people ok!?! And i was not only talking about the Germans in nazi era but also before!! Why cant you understand words, you tell me!? :mad: Or do you only understand things when it comes from oh mega bella italia brothers and sisters??

Why are you are so obsessed with wanting to feel superior to other peoples? You insulted Spaniards and Italians for talking about who's doing better but you are doing exactly same by trumpeting German achievements (which is a bit odd since you are hardly German).

Groenewolf
09-14-2010, 05:47 PM
Can someone please split this tread up.

Inese
09-14-2010, 06:58 PM
I perfectly understand German, French and Spanish too, not only English (and a bit, but very few, of Romanian and Portuguese).
And I will answer you in German:

ein so dummes Mädchen kannte nur mir passieren.
Wrong German try again. :rolleyes2: Eine so völlig nervige, eingebildete, grossmäulige und sich immer wieder einmischende Itakertussi wie die selbst ernannte Römerkönigin kann nur mir passieren. KEINE AHNUNG über Vertreibungsgeschichte haben und sich immer aufblähen wollen mit suuuupertoller altrömischer Geschichte!! Ständiges Schulterklopfen mit anderen Italienern wie eine Bande von Räubern die von Thema zu Thema ziehen nur um andere niederzumachen. Ja das geht mir voll gegen den Strich ---- warum hältst du nicht die Klappe hm??

Translate it and shut up!! Better learn that Germans kicked out people in the history and that the killing of jews was only the last step, there were many other steps before, why dont you get it??

San Galgano
09-14-2010, 07:12 PM
Can someone please split this tread up.

Can someone close this thread?:thumb001:

Tyrrhenoi
09-14-2010, 07:27 PM
Translate it and shut up!! Better learn that Germans kicked out people in the history and that the killing of jews was only the last step, there were many other steps before, why dont you get it??

OOOHH.. The last step? This makes it allright then? Hé

I must admit I did not know the nazis, used to send out jews out of Germany. A countyman of mine said, the estimates (50000) of people who were sended out were even lower. It was a mix of nazi-propaganda and economical measures towards the jews.

Ik zie dat je heel flink bent in een vreemde taal op dit forum, schaam jij je misschien voor je eigen moedertaal? Of misschien je gehele vaderland? Een meid als jij zou helemaal geen hoge pretenties mogen hebben, zie je? Het enige waar het bij jouw om draait, is het zaaien van haat en onzekerheid.
Dit tegenover europeanen (Spanjaarden,Italianen etc.), die eigenlijk meer recht van spreken hebben dan jij op dit forum. Want laten we nou eens eerlijk zijn, kunnen we Letland eigenlijk wel als Europa beschouwen?

Jij moet zelf je mondje eens houden en stoppen met het uitdagen.

Detfri
09-14-2010, 08:18 PM
Wrong German try again. :rolleyes2: Eine so völlig nervige, eingebildete, grossmäulige und sich immer wieder einmischende Itakertussi wie die selbst ernannte Römerkönigin kann nur mir passieren. KEINE AHNUNG über Vertreibungsgeschichte haben und sich immer aufblähen wollen mit suuuupertoller altrömischer Geschichte!! Ständiges Schulterklopfen mit anderen Italienern wie eine Bande von Räubern die von Thema zu Thema ziehen nur um andere niederzumachen. Ja das geht mir voll gegen den Strich ---- warum hältst du nicht die Klappe hm??

Translate it and shut up!! Better learn that Germans kicked out people in the history and that the killing of jews was only the last step, there were many other steps before, why dont you get it??

There's only a detail: I've never lived in Germany differently from you and you understood what I meant, indeed you repeated the same.
Bah, I care nothing what you wrote... If you are envy that the other Italians thank my posts this is an your problem.

Ich habe meine Ideen, die nicht so wunderlich wie deine sind. Bisher hat keiner noch gesagt, dass ich verrückt bin. Außerdem kann ich 4 Sprachen sprechen und 5 verstehen. Was über dich?
Du bist deutsch auch nicht, nur eine "German wannabe". Das ist wirklich pathetisch.

The Lawspeaker
09-14-2010, 09:07 PM
OOOHH.. The last step? This makes it allright then? Hé

I must admit I did not know the nazis, used to send out jews out of Germany. A countyman of mine said, the estimates (50000) of people who were sended out were even lower. It was a mix of nazi-propaganda and economical measures towards the jews.

Ik zie dat je heel flink bent in een vreemde taal op dit forum, schaam jij je misschien voor je eigen moedertaal? Of misschien je gehele vaderland? Een meid als jij zou helemaal geen hoge pretenties mogen hebben, zie je? Het enige waar het bij jouw om draait, is het zaaien van haat en onzekerheid.
Dit tegenover europeanen (Spanjaarden,Italianen etc.), die eigenlijk meer recht van spreken hebben dan jij op dit forum. Want laten we nou eens eerlijk zijn, kunnen we de Letland eigenlijk wel als Europa beschouwen?

Jij moet zelf je mondje eens houden en stoppen met het uitdagen.

@Inese.

Een ding valt mij op. Ik heb je nog bijna nooit Lets zien schrijven en ik vroeg me af hoe goed je je eigen moedertaal spreekt ?

Als je zo trots bent op je moederland moet je misschien eens andere Letten uitnodigen en eens wat aan die Letse sectie van je gaan (plaats Letse literatuur, Lets nieuws etc.) doen in plaats van hier Noord- en Zuid Europeanen tegen elkaar op te hitsen terwijl de Islam over ons heen rolt als ware het een Duitse bliksemoorlog.

RoyBatty
09-14-2010, 09:12 PM
Another thing I've discvovered - as I had long suspected - is that the Muslims see us as weak. From their point of view terrorism has worked, because it has made the West seek dialogue and negotiation. They think we fear them. Well they're right, we do. But they haven't actually thought it through. The West has the power to obliterate every city in the Muslim world within minutes. If we fear them too much, that's exactly what's going to happen.

You seem to be missing the point that our dear Western elites love to hobnob with rich fat Saudi sheikhs - you know - the ones who are providing the $$$ to promote and finance those Islamaniacs you keep whining about.

The Western Elites, Saudis and other related parties move in the same social circles, they're invested in the same military industrial corporations and so forth and so forth.

Things happen for a reason. The endless "War on Terror" is the convenient mechanism through which to divert our social spending into the coffers of the plutocracy instead.

The leaders of our countries have no interest whatsoever in "obliterating the cities of terrorists" or in engaging in some nutty religious crusade against Islam. After all, there isn't a real religious conflict at work between Islam and the West apart from the one being promoted in the Western Media, Hollywood and politicians speeches.

The final solution to an Islamic / Western "problem" is surprisingly simple. It's called BORDER CONTROL. Due to mass migration it'll also require a small amount of friendly relocation back "home" for certain guests of the West. Once that's all taken care of there wouldn't be a conflict now would there hmmm?

So.... since none of this is happening one has to wonder just why it is that our dear leaders who are so concerned about "terrorism" and "our welfare" are not implementing these measures?

Imo the answer is pretty obvious.......

Megrez
09-14-2010, 09:17 PM
I believe the Germans had the intention of sending the jews to other countries. But no country was willing to accept the jewish emigrees. Brazil among them. I found this pdf (http://seer.ufrgs.br/index.php/contingentia/article/viewFile/3855/2155) with the story of a jewish family that wanted to emigrate from Europe before the WWII. As for their account, no nation was willing to accept them. Another jewish family got tourist visas for Uruguay only after they paid high amounts of money to the Uruguayan consul in Frankfurt - and these visas were invalidated by Uruguayan government after they found out the consuls were getting paid to sign the visas. In the end, only in March 1939 the family Caro got temporary visas from the Brazilian consul in Marseille - in spite of the secret instructions of the Brazilian government at the time not to concede any visa to any semitic person. For the record, this Brazilian consul was fired soon after, "for the good of public service".

Guapo
09-14-2010, 11:17 PM
(which is a bit odd since you are hardly German).

So was Hitler and look what that madman did! :mad: Eine so völlig nervige, eingebildete, grossmäulige und sich immer wieder einmischende Itakertussi wie die selbst ernannte Römerkönigin kann nur mir passieren. KEINE AHNUNG über Vertreibungsgeschichte haben und sich immer aufblähen wollen mit suuuupertoller altrömischer Geschichte!! :mad:

Groenewolf
09-15-2010, 04:33 AM
[I]Ik zie dat je heel flink bent in een vreemde taal op dit forum, schaam jij je misschien voor je eigen moedertaal?

Er zijn weinig andere Letsen hier op dit redebord. Dus weinig mogelijkheden voor haar om in het Lets te schrijven. De suggestie van Asega dat ze een poging zou moeten wagen meer hier te krijgen is in dit verband dus een goeie. Al had ze dat in het verleden al een paar keer gedaan als ik het me goed herinner.


Can someone close this thread?:thumb001:

You do not want us to discuss the issues connected with Islam and it's presence in our countries?

Wulfhere
09-15-2010, 08:00 AM
Update...

They've let me back onto that forum.

The Ripper
09-15-2010, 08:03 AM
Update...

They've let me back onto that forum.

You bought them off with your harem of virgins, didn't you, you old goat. :eek:

Wulfhere
09-15-2010, 08:05 AM
You bought them off with your harem of virgins, didn't you, you old goat. :eek:

Actually, not far off. I played the religious discrimination card.

The Ripper
09-15-2010, 08:20 AM
Actually, not far off. I played the religious discrimination card.

And then the intolerant and uncivilized brownies let you in?

Wulfhere
09-15-2010, 08:39 AM
And then the intolerant and uncivilized brownies let you in?

So it would seem, yes. Or rather, the owner of the forum did.

Detfri
09-15-2010, 09:41 AM
I believe the Germans had the intention of sending the jews to other countries. But no country was willing to accept the jewish emigrees. Brazil among them. I found this pdf (http://seer.ufrgs.br/index.php/contingentia/article/viewFile/3855/2155) with the story of a jewish family that wanted to emigrate from Europe before the WWII. As for their account, no nation was willing to accept them. Another jewish family got tourist visas for Uruguay only after they paid high amounts of money to the Uruguayan consul in Frankfurt - and these visas were invalidated by Uruguayan government after they found out the consuls were getting paid to sign the visas. In the end, only in March 1939 the family Caro got temporary visas from the Brazilian consul in Marseille - in spite of the secret instructions of the Brazilian government at the time not to concede any visa to any semitic person. For the record, this Brazilian consul was fired soon after, "for the good of public service".

Sweden and the Netherlands accepted them, at least before Hitler invaded this latter.


Er zijn weinig andere Letsen hier op dit redebord. Dus weinig mogelijkheden voor haar om in het Lets te schrijven. De suggestie van Asega dat ze een poging zou moeten wagen meer hier te krijgen is in dit verband dus een goeie. Al had ze dat in het verleden al een paar keer gedaan als ik het me goed herinner.



How boring would it be if Babele didn't exist and everybody was speaking Italian now :D (joking)

Charles Martel
09-15-2010, 04:44 PM
The Muslims reading this forum are probably laughing their asses of. You all probably know why this is.

Crossbow
09-15-2010, 04:52 PM
The Muslims reading this forum are probably laughing their asses of. You all probably know why this is.

Would be a problem then, laughing their asses off. They need their asses to stick up in the air, their faith would not be complete without their asses.

Charles Martel
09-15-2010, 05:02 PM
Would be a problem then, laughing their asses off. They need their asses to stick up in the air, their faith would not be complete without their asses.

I mean if they are minding their own business why go and distrub them. Leave them be. If you want to have a discussion then have it in civil and well mannered debate, instead of trolling and giving a bad name to yourself and your faith or ideology. Most of the Muslims that dream of a Moorish Europe tend to be North Africans, and sadly France has a lot of them. We defeated them in 732 and they are back. France has become dead, not the result of the Muslims but our treasonous leaders. Berbers are not our cousins racially or culturally at all. They have been our number one enemies. The reason that many Berbers look European is because they enslaved a large number of Europeans, an unknown story to many. They would often look for women to enslave and use as concubines. They are total scum.

Wulfhere
09-15-2010, 05:02 PM
The Muslims reading this forum are probably laughing their asses of. You all probably know why this is.

I doubt it. I don't think they've got a sense of humour.

Thraex
09-15-2010, 05:04 PM
I doubt it. I don't think they've got a sense of humour.

Yeah, they don't understand Mercian humor even if told by a jester like you.

Saruman
09-15-2010, 05:12 PM
The reason that many Berbers look European is because they enslaved a large number of Europeans, an unknown story to many. They would often look for women to enslave and use as concubines. They are total scum.

To a degree correct, however truth is that Berberid Cromagnid racial type is indigenous to NW Africa, along with South mediterranid, and these can be quite European-like in appearance. Of course other strains came to the area as well.

As for that forum, haven't looked at it, but it's probably just a bunch of lunatic salafis/wahhabis, and they will naturally proselytize, they are a bunch of zombies basically, and they are not the main danger unless they are understood as a great mass of cannon fodder in which case they maybe a threat but only by direction of someone. These zombies are not possible to debate with rationally as they are often paid proselytizers taught to answer specific questions with prepared answers and not knowing much more than that.

Crossbow
09-15-2010, 05:16 PM
I mean if they are minding their own business why go and distrub them. Leave them be. If you want to have a discussion then have it in civil and well mannered debate, instead of trolling and giving a bad name to yourself and your faith or ideology. Most of the Muslims that dream of a Moorish Europe tend to be North Africans, and sadly France has a lot of them. We defeated them in 732 and they are back. France has become dead, not the result of the Muslims but our treasonous leaders. Berbers are not our cousins racially or culturally at all. They have been our number one enemies. The reason that many Berbers look European is because they enslaved a large number of Europeans, an unknown story to many. They would often look for women to enslave and use as concubines. They are total scum.

I'm not interested what they're doing in their own countries. They can do whatever they like there.
Now for trolling, why couldn't we express ourselves in a mocking way sometimes, just because they have declared themselves and their habits
sacred, and they're not able to see their own hypocrisy?

RoyBatty
09-16-2010, 06:54 AM
So it would seem, yes. Or rather, the owner of the forum did.

Maybe he's Jewish, lol :D

Tonsor
09-16-2010, 02:39 PM
I've spent the past few days trolling this Islamic Forum - http://www.gawaher.com/index.php? - and it's fucking frightening how many of them say they will convert the West, or it will be destroyed. Never let anyone try and tell you it's just a tiny minority of fanatics among them. Anyone want to join me for the fun?

- Many would be surprised to know what many of the appereantly integrated moderate Muslims really think. Just think about it, how many Muslims have you seen rallying against fundamentalism, terorrism, circumcision of women, jihad, stoning as a use of penalty agains "sinners/heretics",..just to name a few? I honestly don't recall any incidents, even if its happened its nothing compared to how many openly declare that their "Infidel" host nation is immoral and make one demand after the other, and getting bolder in their demands as they make progress with them.

Remember, most of the Muslim immigrants in Western Europe are from the most impoverished and backwards(economically and mentally) areas of their homeland. On contrary to the Muslims in USA which some like to point at as an example of succesful integration of Muslims. One thing they don't consider is that they are on average far more educated and ressourceful immigrants than the ones in Europe. Anything else as outcome would have been illogical.

Wulfhere
09-16-2010, 02:43 PM
- Many would be surprised to know what many of the appereantly integrated moderate Muslims really think. Just think about it, how many Muslims have you seen rallying against fundamentalism, terorrism, circumcision of women, jihad, stoning as a use of penalty agains "sinners/heretics",..just to name a few? I honestly don't recall any incidents, even if its happened its nothing compared to how many openly declare that their "Infidel" host nation is immoral and make one demand after the other, and getting bolder in their demands as they make progress with them.

Remember, most of the Muslim immigrants in Western Europe are from the most impoverished and backwards(economically and mentally) areas of their homeland. On contrary to the Muslims in USA which some like to point at as an example of succesful integration of Muslims. One thing they don't consider is that they are on average far more educated and ressourceful immigrants than the ones in Europe. Anything else as outcome would have been illogical.

Yes indeed. Look at all these protests against the Pope by Catholics themselves. How many Muslims do you see protesting against the excesses of Islam? None, that's how many.