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identity
02-09-2011, 12:25 PM
hello folks,
the pakistani people clearly show facial features that cannot be said to belong to the indian sub-continent. in fact they seem to be of western origin. some theories to explain this are

1) alexander the great governed parts of pakistan for a time. he kept a provincial army of greek soldiers there which did not return after hearing of his death in greece. these greeks married local women and procreated.

2) in ancient times groups called shakas, pallavas, hun(atilla?), kushans(turks) invaded and were defeated by hindu/buddhist kings ruling then. these groups converted to buddhism and married local women.

any credence to these theories?
i ahve attached pics of some paki women. note the noses and jaws, width of the eyesockets , not south-east asian surely?

Talvi
02-09-2011, 12:38 PM
The first row of women look like completely typical people for the Pakistani/Indian region.

Blossom
02-09-2011, 12:44 PM
The girl number 6 is the prettier between all the pakis you've posted. I'm sorry for not agreeing with that ''beauty'' concept, but to me they look all...''the same''. I especially dont like the contrast their eyes-nose do, eyes are like jumping from orbits while nose is long and curved down..

Talvi
02-09-2011, 02:16 PM
Oh and... I didnt know Indians or Pakis were considered to be South-East Asian. I thought that was something applied to places like Burma, Thailand, Cambodia...

There are many people in the borders of India that resemble S-E Asians and they usually are not "Indian". (like Tibetan tribes, Apatani)

Peerkons
02-09-2011, 02:20 PM
Pakistani beauty :rofl:
Western origin LMAO
http://topnews.in/law/files/Andhra-Muslims.jpg

Comte Arnau
02-09-2011, 02:22 PM
Who is the 6th woman? She could pass for a European.

The Journeyman
02-09-2011, 02:47 PM
I have a pakistani friend whose features are strikingly similar to mine, all but the dark pigmentation, of course. So I would deem him as handsome, naturally.

El Comunero Errante
02-09-2011, 02:55 PM
I know a lots of pakis that could pass for "canis sevillanos"(an autoctonous breed of lowlife). It is a strange phenomenon. very similar facial feautures and dress-code. The guy that sells weed in my area looks like straight from the "poligono norte"...illo suprimo tengo grifa guena

Also the woman in the gorcery-store just in front of my place is a total "Jessy or Vane" ... same expression, same hair style, same tan, even the same fucking jewlery...lol


Sample of Cani Sevillano

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BGS1rBCH9-w/TH9EYuTHImI/AAAAAAAA4z8/xpVMEvSCgqs/s1600/Cani_prototipo.jpg

Comte Arnau
02-09-2011, 02:58 PM
I know a lots of pakis that could pass for "canis sevillanos". It is a strange phenomenon. very similar facial feautures and dress-code. The guy that sells weed in my area looks like straight from the "poligono norte"...illo suprimo tengo grifa guena

Also the woman in the gorcery-store just in front of my place is a total "Jessy or Vane" ... same expression, same hair style, same tan, even the same fucking jewlery...lol

Lol. But well, it could have an explanation. The SW is probably the area with more Gypsies in Iberia, and don't they come from NW South Asia? :)

El Comunero Errante
02-09-2011, 03:01 PM
Ibex, most of the cani people have little to no gypsy blood. Do they fap with the "Gitano" way of life, "culture" and aesthetics? sure they do.

But they are the Spanish equivalent of the "whiggers". They are just "gitano wanna-be".

Comte Arnau
02-09-2011, 03:03 PM
Ibex, most of the cani people have little to no gypsy blood. Do they fap with the "Gitano" way of life, "culture" and aesthetics? sure they do.

But they are the Spanish equivalent of the "whiggers". They are just "gitano wanna-be".

I meant the real 'Gypsid', of course.

The rest, mere Payitanos! :D

identity
02-10-2011, 12:43 PM
people,
please post responses relevant to my original post.

Magister Eckhart
02-26-2011, 01:04 PM
people,
please post responses relevant to my original post.

You'll get used to things going off-topic here. It happens a lot.

I have to say I'm surprised to see you posting about beauty in Pakistanis. While it is certainly true that there are many Caucasian traits evident in northern Indians, Pakistan itself seems to me to be a religious reality rather than an ethnic reality. Perhaps "beauty in Punjabis" would be more appropriate-- indeed, Punjabi women have a reputation for being quite beautiful (especially among the Punjabis themselves :p).

At any rate, the "western traits" you reference in your original post need not be from Europeans. Remember, after all, that Europeans, like northern Indians, are descent from common racial ancestors (the so-called "Aryans"), and it is well known that Indians are considered within the Caucasian race. Therefore, that light-skinned Indians and Pakistanis could pass as European should not surprise anyone.

identity
02-27-2011, 12:18 PM
wagnerian,
the noses,jaws,set of the eyes seem distinct and un-indian wouldn't you say?

Pallantides
02-27-2011, 12:38 PM
Here in Norway there are many Pakistanis, here are some common looks among them:http://images.bt.no/btno/multimedia/dynamic/00296/642941__Mah-Rukh_1__296997e.jpg
http://www.dagsavisen.no/multimedia/archive/00026/08a1-27_26370q.jpghttp://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00747/Tomme_T_nner_Film_L_747865x.jpghttp://static.vg.no/leonora/bildarkiv/1128575921.03094.jpghttp://www.culcom.uio.no/nyheter/2007/bilder/lavleen_kaur400.jpghttp://media.aftenposten.no/archive/00915/mohammadusmanrana_915970e.jpghttp://www.sappho.dk/uploads/images/shabanarehmann876845304_3845.jpghttp://www.nrk.no/contentfile/file/1.6692552!f169CropList/img650x367.jpghttp://img.nrk.no/img/417992.jpeghttp://www.nrk.no/contentfile/file/1.6682351!f169CropList/img650x367.jpg

Beorn
02-27-2011, 07:58 PM
For the love of all that is actually European!

This thread smells of Paki fucking bastards.

Osweo
02-27-2011, 09:19 PM
Our immigration 'service' sends back all the Pakis of the sort that gets posted in these idiotic cherry-picking threads. :rotfl:

The Lawspeaker
02-27-2011, 09:36 PM
Very well. Pakistani's are a beautiful people.. let's just keep them in their natural habitat shall we? And if the left wants them in Britain at least keep them in the Raj.

Guapo
02-27-2011, 10:01 PM
You reap what you sow.

Osweo
02-27-2011, 10:41 PM
You reap what you sow.

:tsk:

Unhelpful attitude. I suppose there are various struggles that Serbs might appreciate a little solidarity in from the English, and this is hardly the way to improve relations.

Europeans without a colonial history only differ from those that do in the chances that were open to their ancestors. Had Serbs had the chances our people did, they would likely have done the same, and had English mock their descendants a few centuries later for it. :coffee:

Opening Post poster;
Sorry, but I grew up around Pakis, and am quite happy to say that I'd shed no tears if every single one of you died in agony tomorrow in some freak catastrophe. :thumb001:

Magister Eckhart
02-27-2011, 11:43 PM
Opening Post poster;
Sorry, but I grew up around Pakis, and am quite happy to say that I'd shed no tears if every single one of you died in agony tomorrow in some freak catastrophe. :thumb001:

He's actually a Hindu from Bombay without a very high opinion of Mohammedanism.

Which I have to say leads me to be very surprised at the whole "pakistani beauty" thing... while I'm happy to see somebody from India willing to admit that Pakistanis are ethnically Indian, their religious identity makes it seem strange to me that a Hindu Indian would be willing to say positive things about them.

Or have I misinterpreted your meaning, identity?

Osweo
02-28-2011, 12:07 AM
He's actually a Hindu from Bombay

We have the best part of a million of them too. Especially in Leicester. We call them 'Pakis' too. They don't like it. ...which is kind of the point, as we don't like them taking over our towns, either.

Pallantides
02-28-2011, 01:21 AM
Pakkiser!

identity
02-28-2011, 11:34 AM
i am trying to make sense of how different people acquire specific facial features through admixture.i ahve found some pakistani men and women to be fairer in complexion and with sharp, distinguished features that stand out. i am trying to find out if these features were 'infused' from the greek invasion of the areas around the sindhu in ancient times or if they were a more recent addition during the islamic invasions (due to which those parts became gradually islamised as well). in clear english - are those features a legacy of greek,ancient turkish,shak,hun assimilation or from afghans,arabs,muslim turks,muslim persians,uzbeks,kazaks,kirghiz etc.
i have no love lost for pakistanis,make no mistake about that. but there is a branch of zoology that dedicates itself to the study of snakes isn't there?

Don
02-28-2011, 11:50 AM
people,
please post responses relevant to my original post.

Your original post is a shit, irrelevant to our matters, involving EUROPE and EUROPEAN BREEDS.

Go to an Asian forum.

I'm tired of invaders in my land and in my screen, despite I chose specific locations...

Magister Eckhart
02-28-2011, 11:01 PM
i have no love lost for pakistanis,make no mistake about that. but there is a branch of zoology that dedicates itself to the study of snakes isn't there?

:D I actually laughed out loud at that one.


Your original post is a shit, irrelevant to our matters, involving EUROPE and EUROPEAN BREEDS.

Go to an Asian forum.

I'm tired of invaders in my land and in my screen, despite I chose specific locations...

Pakistanis and Northern Indians are by and large just as Caucasian as any European, and there's nothing wrong with coming to experts on racial anthropology (which our forum sports in large numbers) for questions on these matters. Besides, as has been pointed out, historically Northern Indians do have European admixture from eras of invasion long past, so a case could be made for them being within the range of European racial categorisation.

Furthermore, identity is from India, and from what I've heard from him he has no interest in becoming an immigrant to Europe. I agree with opposition to immigrants and would probably not be too pleased to see an Indian living in, say, Cornwall on these boards, but I see no reason not to be at least cordial to someone (especially a cultural cousin from the subcontinent) who has chosen to stay among his own people, of whom he is proud, rather than come and leech off of us. If anything, you should be showing him gratitude rather than contempt.

Gaztelu
02-28-2011, 11:08 PM
You reap what you sow.

Just like Kosovo . . .

aherne
03-14-2011, 08:21 AM
The first five look typical upper class NW Indians (with very little veddoid influence), the latter two have unusually light features and are in exceptional minority (less than 1% of Muslim Indians have such features). Number 6 can indeed pass as European...

Motörhead Remember Me
03-14-2011, 08:37 AM
hello folks,
the pakistani people clearly show facial features that cannot be said to belong to the indian sub-continent. in fact they seem to be of western origin. some theories to explain this are

1) alexander the great governed parts of pakistan for a time. he kept a provincial army of greek soldiers there which did not return after hearing of his death in greece. these greeks married local women and procreated.

2) in ancient times groups called shakas, pallavas, hun(atilla?), kushans(turks) invaded and were defeated by hindu/buddhist kings ruling then. these groups converted to buddhism and married local women.

any credence to these theories?
i ahve attached pics of some paki women. note the noses and jaws, width of the eyesockets , not south-east asian surely?
What makes you think beauty is restricted to, or only passed on by "westerners"?

Motörhead Remember Me
03-14-2011, 08:40 AM
ii am trying to find out if these features were 'infused' from the greek invasion of the areas around the sindhu in ancient times or if they were a more recent addition during the islamic invasions (due to which those parts became gradually islamised as well). in clear english - are those features a legacy of greek,ancient turkish,shak,hun assimilation or from afghans,arabs,muslim turks,muslim persians,uzbeks,kazaks,kirghiz etc.


Then they would be hook nosed with bushy eyebrows...

identity
03-14-2011, 12:32 PM
motor,
wouldn't you say the white male and female are pretty much considered the epitome of beauty across the world?
abt the bushy eyebrows and hooked noses - quite a sizable number of pakis look exactly like that esp the pathans (also some sikhs in india and pak)

aherne,
some states in india show those features.but there is no contiguity there either. for ex people in haryana and punjab show these features but not in neighbouring himachal pradesh.
as for number 6 she is half euro. her name is mona lisa.

Norbert
03-14-2011, 04:20 PM
Few and far in between... if any

Aviane
03-14-2011, 07:49 PM
Pakistani people aren't bad looking, I find them quite reasonably good looking even if they aren't Europeans.

A good brave move Identity.

Detfri
03-14-2011, 07:57 PM
:D I actually laughed out loud at that one.



Pakistanis and Northern Indians are by and large just as Caucasian as any European, and there's nothing wrong with coming to experts on racial anthropology (which our forum sports in large numbers) for questions on these matters. Besides, as has been pointed out, historically Northern Indians do have European admixture from eras of invasion long past, so a case could be made for them being within the range of European racial categorisation.

Furthermore, identity is from India, and from what I've heard from him he has no interest in becoming an immigrant to Europe. I agree with opposition to immigrants and would probably not be too pleased to see an Indian living in, say, Cornwall on these boards, but I see no reason not to be at least cordial to someone (especially a cultural cousin from the subcontinent) who has chosen to stay among his own people, of whom he is proud, rather than come and leech off of us. If anything, you should be showing him gratitude rather than contempt.

EUROPE: Western part of Eurasia, borders: Mediterranean Sea in the South, Atlantic Ocean in the West, the Black Sea and Caucasus in the South-East,
Urals and Caspian Sea.

EUROPE:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/LocationEurope.png/800px-LocationEurope.png

It's Apricity not Caucasity.