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Whiteruthenian
04-30-2011, 09:17 PM
The meaning of a smile? Why do Russians smile so seldom?

We often hear from foreigners that Russians rarely smile (especially people living in big cities). We don’t notice it but in comparison to other eastern and western countries it is right. Meaning what? Russians rude, impolite, ill mannered, non-hospitable and so on??

I think it is deeper in national traditions. Lets’ see how it is! I have found a wonderful work in the Internet written by one of the Voronezh University Professor I.A. Sternin (http://commbehavior.narod.ru/RusFin/RusFin2000/Sternin4.htm). I think he has given a good scientific base to this phenomenon.

He points out 14 distinguishing features of a typical Russian smile:

1. Smile is Russian communication is not a sign of politeness.

In American, English, German and Finnish communicative behavior it is. Smiles are necessary when greeting or having a polite conversation. Russian writers have pointed out many times that a typical American smile seems non-natural and false to many Russians. They say, “Americans smile as if they are electric lights turned on”, “their smile is something chronic”, “an American face is mainly teeth”.

I don’t mean to hurt Americans :) I’m trying to defend Russians from those blaming them of non-smiling.

Western smiles greeting someone mean pure politeness. The more a person smiles the more friendliness he/she is showing to his/her partner.

Japanese girls at the entrance to a moving staircase in large supermarkets smile and bow to each customer - 2500 smiles and bows per day!

Russian people don’t smile out of politeness. Visa versa, it is considered to be bad to smile without any significant reasons. The Russian phrase “he smiled out of pure politeness” implies a negative attitude to the smiling person.

A constant polite smile is considered a “smile on duty” in Russia and shows people’s insincerity, closeness and unwillingness to show real feelings.

2. Russian people do not smile at strangers.

Russians smile only at their fellow guys. That’s is why shop assistants never smile at customers (they don’t know them personally!:). If a shops-assistant knows a customer she shall smile at him/her.

3. It is not typical to Russian to give a smile in return.

An American wrote in the “Izvestiya” paper, “I don’t know hwy but when looking at Russian custom officers checking our passports and smiling at them we never get a smile in return. When our eyes meet the eyes of some person walking along a street in Russia we never get a smile back.” It is true: if a Russian person sees a stranger smiling at him he/she is certain to seek the reason of fun. Maybe something in his/her clothes or hairdo makes the gun so cheerful?

4. It is not typical for Russian to smile at a person whose eyes you met with your eyes by chance. Americans smile in such a case but Russians turn off their eyes.

5. Russians don’t smile altogether looking at babies or pets. (I think it is a controversial utterance).

6. A Russian smile is a sign of personal attraction.

A Russian smile shows that a smiling person likes you. He/she is very friendly to you. That is why Russians smile only to fellow people because they cannot favor strangers.

7. Russians do not smile when working or doing something serious.

Customs officers do not smile because they are doing their serious business. The same thing is with sellers and waiters. It is a unique peculiarity of a Russian smile. Chase Manhattan Bank has a large note “If your operator didn’t smile you tell the doorman and he will give you a dollar!”

Children mustn’t smile when studying. Russian adults tell their kids, “Don’t smile, be serious at school, preparing home task and when grown ups are talking to you!” One of the most common remarks of a Russian teacher is, “Why are you smiling? Stop it and start writing”.

Serving staff has never smile din Russia. Since early times clerks, salesmen, waiters and servants have been polite and courteous but never smiling. Now we have to make a smile a professional requirement to all the service staff members because it is not gonna appear otherwise:).

8. Russian smile is sincere. It is the expression of either high spirits or a good attitude to a partner.

Russians do not smile without reason (for example, to make the mood of a partner better, to make him/her feel pleased or support him/her). One has to really like the person he/she is smiling at or be in very high spirits to have the right for a smile.

9. A smile of a Russian person should have a sufficient reason, which is evident to others. It gives a person the right to smile from others’ point of view. The Russian language has got the unique proverb missing in other languages, “Laughter without reasons is the sign of foolishness”. Western thinking people are unable to understand the logics of this proverb. A certain German teacher got the following explanation of the proverb, “If a person is laughing without reason he has problems with his/her head”. He couldn’t understand it and asked, “Why does the second utterance follow the first one??”

The reason of a smile should be evident and clear to others. If they don’t understand the reason or consider it insufficient for s smile they may break smiling and make a reproof, “What are you smiling at?”

10. The only worthy reason of a smile in Russian communication is the wealth of a smiling person.

Carnegie’s call for a smile arises the following question among the Russian people, “Why smiling? No money paid, only problems all over, and you say, “smile”…” Thus, for Russians a smile is not an inherent part of communication but a reflection of their conditions, mood and material wealth.

11. It is not typical for the Russian communicational culture to smile in order to cheer up or make others cheer up. A Russian person will hardly smile without evident wealth or very high spirits.

A certain Japanese documentary about the emergency landing showed the episode with a stewardess smiling at her passengers before the emergency landing. After the landing was over she fell down writhed in hysterics. So, she fulfilled her professional duty having calmed down the passengers.

Russian public opinion condemns a smile of self-encouraging, “Her husband has left her but she is smiling”, “she has got a great number of children but she is smiling” and so on. All these phrases condemn a smile of a woman who is trying not to lose courage in a hard situation.

12. In a pure Russian consciousness a smile need a proper time for appearing. It is considered an independent action, which is very often unnecessary and annoying. Another Russian proverb says, “Business takes time, fun takes an hour”.

13. A smile should fit the situation from the point of view of the people around.

The commonest situations of Russian communications do not further smiles. People do not smile in a tense situation. They say, “Not a proper time for smiling”. It is not considered good to smile near people having serious problems or troubles (if they others are aware of them of course): illness, personal problems and so on.

14. Russians do not really distinguish between a smile and laughter. They often mix up these two phenomena.

Very often people say to smiling people in Russia, “What’s funny? I don’t understand!” or “Have I said something to make you laugh?”.

The conclusion of the author is as follows: the Russians are cheerful and wit in general. It is natural for them not to hide their feelings and moods.

However, everyday life of a Russian person has always been a constant struggle and survival; lives of many Russian people were very hard and some serious concern has become a constant expression of their faces. A smile in such circumstances is an exception meaning wealth, high spirits. Only a few people can have it altogether (and rather seldom). It is evident to everyone and very often may arise questions like “hey, why smiling?…”, envy and even dislike.

So if you a smile at a Russian person and get no smile in return, don’t feel surprised or hurt. Consider it an exotic national tradition :))

Well, commerce, market relations and other values of a different world are gradually bringing the habit of smiling “out of pure politeness” and “making a good impression” to Russia. Right are the Chinese, «If you cannot smile you cannot trade well!» :-))

Have you ever faces funny cases with smiles? Maybe in Russia? Let’s talk aboutSOURCE (http://www.chanceforlove.com/archives/content/full/23)

Sebastos
04-30-2011, 09:28 PM
Got to love the Russians for being direct with their feelings.

Ivanushka-supertzar
04-30-2011, 09:51 PM
Dunno, I smile really often.

Hussar
04-30-2011, 10:04 PM
Russians smile often

Wulfhere
05-01-2011, 12:11 AM
I've noticed this quite a lot too with Russians, but the above report is only comparing them with Americans, which is hardly fair on Western Europeans, since Americans are famous for their insincere and bleached-white teeth smiles.

Treffie
05-01-2011, 12:14 AM
I think I might be Russian - sometimes smiling seems too much like hard work.

Guapo
05-01-2011, 12:15 AM
Smiling is gay

Max
05-02-2011, 06:24 PM
If people dont smile at you than it usually means they have no positive emotion towards you. I smile a lot because its kinda my job to be friendly :D Russians smile quite a bit

Albion
08-14-2011, 03:51 PM
I suppose I'm with the Russians on this, I only really smile if I'm happy or find something funny.
I find it daft smiling over the slightest things but sometimes force one if someone is trying to be funny and I don't want to embarrass them by how crap their joke is.

Maybe I'm a kill joy. :rolleyes:

Mordid
08-14-2011, 03:54 PM
It is Slavic trait. Not just Russians, but also Slavs do not smile. We're kinda soulless.

Veneda
08-14-2011, 04:46 PM
Judge by yourself:

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to be coninued…

Storm 1995
08-14-2011, 07:10 PM
Smiling is overrated anyway.

Why Russians smile less than others? I think it's general eastern European trait, that people smile less than westerners. It's not just about Russians.

Fresa Salvaje
08-14-2011, 07:12 PM
A smile can make your day. Sad.

Mordid
08-14-2011, 07:14 PM
Smiling is overrated anyway.

Why Russians smile less than others? I think it's general eastern European trait, that people smile less than westerners. Not just Russians.

I'd call that Slavo-Heroin look. :D
This Pole would be good example..
http://pfk.one.pl/portrety/magik_1.jpg
http://i2.pinger.pl/pgr206/1b9cd6d70000df804b37c1ad/1996+zdjecie+z+wywiadu+9.jpeg

Storm 1995
08-14-2011, 07:16 PM
Funny thing, but I heard also Americans who have spent some time in Croatia saying that "Croats rarely smile". Or, that we smile only when we have some reason for that, not out of sheer "politeness". Just like Russians, as described in this text posted by Whiteruthenian.

Maybe there is indeed something all-Slavic in this. :D

sleepytigers
08-14-2011, 08:34 PM
Maybe they don't have much to be happy about?

Jk.

El Comunero Errante
08-14-2011, 08:40 PM
there's nothing to be smiling about in Soviet Russia...oh wait!:P

Veneda
08-14-2011, 10:13 PM
Observing older Russians I noticed that their specific sense of humour is very subtle and has ties to literature, cinema, politics etc. In most cases a good Russian joke translated into English has no meaning to a Brit or to an American. You need to know Russian language to understand the way they think, as well as their culture too. At the same time I noticed that young Russian people have fun very often from universal things.

This Russian video had over 3,000,000 entries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGGqmLZhchk&feature=related

Arrow Cross
08-14-2011, 10:33 PM
I never smile. Only smirk and grin, if ever. I approve of this cultural peculiarity.

Mordid
08-14-2011, 10:35 PM
Observing older Russians I noticed that their specific sense of humour is very subtle and has ties to literature, cinema, politics etc. In most cases a good Russian joke translated into English has no meaning to a Brit or to an American. You need to know Russian language to understand the way they think, as well as their culture too. At the same time I noticed that young Russian people have fun very often from universal things.

This Russian video had over 3,000,000 entries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGGqmLZhchk&feature=related

Hey, we Poles are very funny too! :p
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mymy
08-14-2011, 11:15 PM
I always smile on pics, in real life i don't smile often, but i always try to give friendly smile to people i like or when i feel it is good situation. Anyway, when some difficult situation comes, i'm trying to be optimistic and even try to smile more than usual, even i know people watch me like complete idiot. Once i've been told that being "smiling fool with totally unappropriate values system" won't bring me anything good in this life.

Logan
08-14-2011, 11:24 PM
I always smile on pics, in real life i don't smile often, but i always try to give friendly smile to people i like or when i feel it is good situation. Anyway, when some difficult situation comes, i'm trying to be optimistic and even try to smile more than usual, even i know people watch me like complete idiot. Once i've been told that being "smiling fool with totally unappropriate values system" won't bring me anything good in this life.

You are good. And you have your own set.

Osweo
08-14-2011, 11:28 PM
Russians don't grin like idiots. They don't smarm up to strangers. They don't put on false acts for no reason.

When you are friends with them, they smile plenty.

beaver
08-14-2011, 11:42 PM
I'm personally smiling only with friends. Nothing else just cannot see this.

mymy
08-14-2011, 11:43 PM
Russians don't grin like idiots. They don't smarm up to strangers. They don't put on false acts for no reason.

When you are friends with them, they smile plenty.

Well, it is logical, nobody smile really without reason. I don't think i smile like idiot too. Sometimes you have opportunity to see helpless people and sometimes you have opportunity to listen to them and talk to them... and in those situations i think it is human to give nice smile with what you will say that everything will be okay? And i don't mean that you will laugh like crazy or smile while someone cry near you, you will just feel when it's right moment for that. I had lot of those opportunities, sometimes people stop me on bus station and start conversations or while waiting at doctor or while waiting in line in shop... and usually they start talking about their personal problems and i can't just ignore them and put cold mask. After all, we are humans!

Osweo
08-14-2011, 11:46 PM
There are kindly expressions that don't involve the blatant 'fake Hollywood' smile, of course. You can 'smile' with your eyes, without baring all your teeth.

This 'not smiling' thing is usually heard off Americans, who might appear to smile too much and too hard. ;)

mymy
08-14-2011, 11:55 PM
There are kindly expressions that don't involve the blatant 'fake Hollywood' smile, of course. You can 'smile' with your eyes, without baring all your teeth.

This 'not smiling' thing is usually heard off Americans, who might appear to smile too much and too hard. ;)

Oh, but i thought that kindly expressions also counts like smiles... Because if you make noise and show all your teeth and open mouth it is more like laughing than smiling to me... or i didn't understand those terms good :embarrassed

Anyway, i find those kindly expressions how you call it, to be quite positive thing in some situations. Just in today's society some people don't have time even for that...

beaver
08-14-2011, 11:57 PM
Observing older Russians I noticed that their specific sense of humour is very subtle and has ties to literature, cinema, politics etc. In most cases a good Russian joke translated into English has no meaning to a Brit or to an American. You need to know Russian language to understand the way they think, as well as their culture too. At the same time I noticed that young Russian people have fun very often from universal things.
Yeah, we had a lot of specific humor and self-irony but no one can understand this because we are not in the center, as Anglo-Saxons, nobody knows the language.

sleepytigers
08-14-2011, 11:58 PM
There are kindly expressions that don't involve the blatant 'fake Hollywood' smile, of course. You can 'smile' with your eyes, without baring all your teeth.



I was going to say something like this. Also, to smile too much with too many teeth showing, looks almost fake many times, the true genuine nature of a smile can be seen in one's eyes.

beaver
08-15-2011, 12:04 AM
Well, it is logical, nobody smile really without reason. I don't think i smile like idiot too.
Just compare some American command and Russian. This is a real thing

mymy
08-15-2011, 12:12 AM
I was going to say something like this. Also, to smile too much with too many teeth showing, looks almost fake many times, the true genuine nature of a smile can be seen in one's eyes.

Hm, but that is even not a smile, it's posing... :p
Now it looks that i don't smile but making kindly expressions? Those expressions are smiles. When you say people who don't smile i imagine cold icy faces without empathy and unfortunately i saw many of them... You won't open mouth and show teeth to everybody while you are walking alone at street, but if you feel it, you will give normal honest friendly smile- or expression to someone who took your attention from some reason.:embarrassed

Veneda
08-15-2011, 09:37 PM
Yeah, we had a lot of specific humor and self-irony but no one can understand this because we are not in the center, as Anglo-Saxons, nobody knows the language.

Don’t say "nobody". :) I understand Russian sense of humour not only because I know your language. You can be tuned somehow to your way of thinking. For example Polish people are not amused with stand-up shows. I presume that Russians as well. :D

Marmie Dearest
12-13-2011, 11:22 PM
I've met both smiling Russians and very unsmiling Russians, including one man from the former Soviet Union who said "oh you don't have to smile so much around me." It's kind of a relief because as an American, people seem to expect it. Older Russians seem to smile less but that might just be the individuals I've met. I don't have a huge sample, of course, but enough to compare.

Similar thing with Russian humor. I think it depends on *which* Russian humor and who the individual is. I thought that Uncle Vanya was hilarious, reading it (not even watching it performed) as a fifteen year old girl. I also think Pushkin's Eugene Onegin has hilarious parts, even Tolstoy's Anna Karenina has wit. In addition to this, I have a very very funny friend who immigrated to the U.S. around age 12 and I get his humor, though he may be more "Americanized."

At any rate, the same man who told me that I didn't have to smile so much around him was impressed that a teenaged American girl thought Chekov was so funny, because in his personal experience he said Americans don't "get it" and find it depressing.

I don't know if that's true, or if that's just his perception.

Maybe some people outside of Russia get it and others don't...or maybe Russians think their humor is harder to understand for people than it is.

I don't know. I've never actually been to Russia. I would like to visit, though.

Siberyak
12-13-2011, 11:39 PM
There mentality is very strange. It's not European at all.

Olika
12-15-2011, 06:16 PM
I smile often )

beaver
12-15-2011, 06:39 PM
Don’t say "nobody". I understand Russian sense of humour not only because I know your language. You can be tuned somehow to your way of thinking. For example Polish people are not amused with stand-up shows. I presume that Russians as well.
We live in not beautiful Europe. Russian cities are safe enough but a Russian man always remembers on the street - maybe someone will appear now/what does this guy mean? The best way - dont see to man's eyes and all will be ok. And you are about smiles

Olika
12-15-2011, 06:50 PM
We live in not beautiful Europe. Russian cities are safe enough but a Russian man always remembers on the street - maybe someone will appear now/what does this guy mean? The best way - dont see to man's eyes and all will be ok. And you are about smiles
this is nonsense.Russians always like a squirrel in a wheel.working without a sigh prietom receive little money.and when you plow every day for a penny...already not to smiles.but there are many reasons and situations.