Interracial relationships

[Sarmata]

Do Gypsies consist of one kind? I thought the SS considered them to be very mixed out due to their travelling and that some of them were "pure" while others were not? The singer in the last link Aino posted did not exactly look like a stereotypical "Gypsy" in my opinion.

Anyway, I do agree with that Europeans should stick to themselves, even regionally. :) (Brännvin has to be loyal to his Scanian women. :D)

But their "cousins" (http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=1720) served in Waffen SS;)

Yes I agree too.:thumb001:

[Jäger]

Do Gypsies consist of one kind? I thought the SS considered them to be very mixed out due to their travelling and that some of them were "pure" while others were not?
"'Gypsy' is not an ethnicity, it is the description of a behavioral disease, namely that of scrounging nomadism, which may or may not be tied to a certain ethnic group." - Sigurd

That sums it up very well, among the gypsies you have the Roma and the Sinti (Indian origin), the Jenische (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeniche_%28people%29) which seem to be Celtic in origin, but at least indigenous, and some others.

[Brännvin]

(Brännvin has to be loyal to his Scanian women. :D)

:thumb001:

But no problem with girls from Svealand :P, we still live in the same kingdom.. ;)

[Östsvensk]

Drink all the coffee you want,it sounds equally ridiculous and,frankly,effeminate to a very high degree.No wonder many of your women choose foreigners.

Why does it sound ridiculous that I on a preservationist forum say I think people should marry partners of their own ethnicity and thus preserving their heritages?

Perhaps you should consider another forum if you don't agree with perservationist and anti-multicultural views?

[Lutiferre]

Why does it sound ridiculous that I on a preservationist forum say I think people should marry partners of their own ethnicity and thus preserving their heritages?


Racist! :mad:

[Brännvin]

Gypsies are scum and deserve no sympathy, that's all.. The rest is rubbish and excessive politically correctness :coffee:

Lately, this forum sucks

[Matritensis]

It sounds ridiculous because you talk like a horse breeder,in search of some physical traits that are at best secondary if you talk about human beings.

[Brännvin]

It sounds ridiculous because you talk like a horse breeder,in search of some physical traits that are at best secondary if you talk about human beings.

You talk as if there were absolute truths :coffee: :lightbul:

[Matritensis]

I would be the last one to talk about absolute truths,really.And I'm by no means a multi-culti.But some of the people here believe that it's possible to fight against nature.If it would have been their decision,we all would be still living in Africa.

[Jäger]

If it would have been their decision,we all would be still living in Africa.
You obviously have no clue about evolution, the birth of species/races can only be achieved through segregation.

[Östsvensk]

It sounds ridiculous because you talk like a horse breeder,in search of some physical traits that are at best secondary if you talk about human beings.

Have I wrote something like that in this thread? In what way are ethnicity and physical traits correlated with each other? :eek:

Because I say a Danish person should marry another Dane or Scandinavian, do I indirectly point on that it has to be a tall Dane marrying a tall Dane?

[Geopagan]

Not what I expected someone on a European preservationist forum to say...:rolleyes2:

Actually, (and this goes to "anonymous" and "Elfchika" as well) some of the members of this forum are not what I expected to see on a European preservationist forum.

And this should have entered your mind before reading my statement.

[Brännvin]

I would be the last one to talk about absolute truths,really.

Really? Judging by its cheap and vulgar moralism it does not seem.

What makes a racialist or let's say a nordicist one scum for you?



And I'm by no means a multi-culti.But some of the people here believe that it's possible to fight against nature.

Let me say, some may exaggerate ( based on my trial :coffee:), but I do not see that the general consensus



If it would have been their decision,we all would be still living in Africa.

Uh, what? As someone pointed out, you obviously have no clue about evolution, human adaptation, genetic drift, genetic isolation, etc..

Sorry, dolly! Races and ethnicities are the product of that.

[Matritensis]

Let me guess.Danes should have stayed in Denmark,and of course they shouldn't have bred with the Saxons in the Danelaw,and Norwegians should have kept Iceland free of British slaves.The Goths should have remained in Scandinavia instead of getting finally lost in Italy and Spain.The Celts should have stayed in central Europe instead of having adventures in the British Isles,France,or Spain.The Swedish Royal House should be purged from French blood right away,the Spanish Royal House too.The proto-Finns should have stayed in the continent instead of moving to a strange land to adopt a very strange Uralic language,the Romans should have stayed in Italy instead of spreading their silly ways and genes all over the south.The Greeks should have refrained from founding colonies all over the Mediterranean because every etniticity,no matter how insignificant or relevant,has to remain pure.Some cornered Britons should have remained in Great Britain instead of migrating to Bretagne when the foreign Saxons(fucking immigrants) proved to be too much for them.The Swedes should have stayed at home instead of having gone to Finland to impose a strange Germanic dialect...and on and on.But don't worry! We are different in this forum! we can stop history by marrying only within a radius of 500 km at most!

[Östsvensk]

Let me guess.Danes should have stayed in Denmark,and of course they shouldn't have bred with the Saxons in the Danelaw,and Norwegians should have kept Iceland free of British slaves.The Goths should have remained in Scandinavia instead of getting finally lost in Italy and Spain.The Celts should have stayed in central Europe instead of having adventures in the British Isles,France,or Spain.The Swedish Royal House should be purged from French blood right away,the Spanish Royal House too.The proto-Finns should have stayed in the continent instead of moving to a strange land to adopt a very strange Uralic language,the Romans should have stayed in Italy instead of spreading their silly ways and genes all over the south.The Greeks should have refrained from founding colonies all over the Mediterranean because every etniticity,no matter how insignificant or relevant,has to remain pure.Some cornered Britons should have remained in Great Britain instead of migrating to Bretagne when the foreign Saxons(fucking immigrants) proved to be too much for them.The Swedes should have stayed at home instead of having gone to Finland to impose a strange Germanic dialect...and on and on.But don't worry! We are different in this forum! we can stop history by marrying only within a radius of 500 km at most!

:mad:

I speak of peoples of today. Genetical studies shows a Northwestern cluster for instance. This means that Northwestern countries preferrably should have restricted immigration rather from other Northwestern countries falling into the same cluster. After that, these immigrants speaking related languages and having similar cultures should easily assimilate into their new country.

How does that sound?

[Brännvin]

I speak of peoples of today.

He used a classic Marxist historical argument ;)
This question is not to argue with it or not, but in reality, there is no absolute truths ...

[Matritensis]

How does that sound?

Well,it sounds like only oneself can make a difference.Of course you are free to marry and breed with whoever you choose,according to whichever reasons you choose.But if you expect people to breed consciously for the purpose of keeping more or less unaltered a certain gene pool,you're in for a huge disappointment.Biology finds its ways to avoid interbreeding.For me the spiritual and cultural changes are far more damaging to the preservation of a country or ethnic group.

[Östsvensk]

Well,it sounds like only oneself can make a difference.Of course you are free to marry and breed with whoever you choose,according to whichever reasons you choose.But if you expect people to breed consciously for the purpose of keeping more or less unaltered a certain gene pool,you're in for a huge disappointment.Biology finds its ways to avoid interbreeding.For me the spiritual and cultural changes are far more damaging to the preservation of a country or ethnic group.

I believe biology doesn't control breeding, I believe politics do. Nowadays miscegenation has started to become more and more common, and what is the reason behind that? That is because our politicans tells us that multiculturality is good and that there are no races.

As goes for the thick marked, why would it be a huge disappointment? Scandinavians have been the same homogeneous people breeding with each other for a very long time. Why would it have to suddenly stop right now?

These are two Danes that were hanged around 300 years after Christ:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Tollundmannen.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Grauballemannen1.jpg

Do they look very different from the Danes of today?

[Matritensis]

Look,I swear I don't have anything at all against preservation,and It would be indeed a real pity if Scandinavians disappear as such...but,It's nothing that you can control apart from your own case! My approach to the European problem(and we really have a problem) is to remember,and make others remember the values and the good traits of our culture in general(because there's a general European culture based loosely on the Roman empire,first,and on Christianity later),and of all our smaller cultures in particular within the continent.And to forget the relativism that poisons everything in Europe now.For me the problem is not that some more or less dark immigrants come to our countries.The problem is that they feel free to do as they want because nobody dares to move a finger.The problem is not physical,or aesthetic.It's a spiritual problem.Why all these people want to go to Europe or America? because those are better places in almost every way! We have to force this people to adopt or at least respect the culture that was forged in innumerable battles,fights and bloodbaths,and that learnt that a live and let live approach works the best if everybody follows the rules.Whoever doesn't,OUT.

[Svipdag]

I haven't had time to read this entire discussion, so, someone else may have addressed the point I am about make, already.

Racism is a two-edged sword and the offspring of an interracial marriage often find that they are not accepted by either race. This is tragic. The children are innocent of any wrongdoing. They are the victims of their parents' bad judgement in defying the racial prejudices of their races.

It may be courageous or "heroic" of the parents to defy convention and rebel against the racism of their parents and ancestors, but it is cruel to expect similar heroism of their children. They have placed their children in a highly stressful situation and often made them welcome nowhere except in their own home.

It is extremely selfish of interracial couples to bring children into a milieu in which they will be rejected not only by their grandparents, but by both communities. Defy convention, if you will, but don't have children who must live in a situation in which they find that, for no reason that they can yet understand, nobody likes them.

[Atlas]

I'd prefer to die alone than marry a gypsy and I'd like to see the gypsies wiped out from the surface of the earth, by the way you are quite ugly (I tell what I think, no offence)


"You are quite ugly, no offence" :D

This is the post of the year.

[Matritensis]

He might be ugly(well,it depends for whom),but he has the balls for posting his pictures here,unlike 99% of the people in this forum,and the decency and self control for refusing to tell the sad idiots around here to fuck off,as they should.

[Mesrine]

He might be ugly(well,it depends for whom),but he has the balls of posting his pictures here,unlike 99% of the people in this forum.

Only his obesity makes him ugly anyway, not his race.

[Atlas]

He might be ugly(well,it depends for whom),but he has the balls for posting his pictures here,unlike 99% of the people in this forum,and the decency and self control for refusing to tell the sad idiots around here to fuck off,as they should.

Check out the Top 20 posters, 14 of them have posted a picture of themself here over the last year, myself included.

Don't give a rat's ass about people with less than 5 post, lurkers etc.

[Matritensis]

14 among how many?

[Atlas]

Among the top 20 posters... many other people with less post did post their picture too.

I don't get your point anyway, why should it be mandatory to post a picture of yourself on this forum in order to be a valuable poster?

[Falkata]

One thing is make a joke and put a mexican hat on his pic or something like that, it´s ok. But i think the number of cruel insults that he received were too many, i dont feel confortable humilliating people in this way.
I dont think the members of this forum are top-models btw.

[Matritensis]

why should it be mandatory to post a picture of yourself on this forum in order to be a valuable poster?

No,no.That's not the correct question.The question is:why so many people feel free to say things that they would never(and I'm sure of this,because cowards always strike when there's no danger,and very viciously) say to anybody's face?

[Brännvin]

Oh fuck.. he was banned :eek:

[Atlas]

You're talking about IM ? Personaly, I welcomed him, unlike those who mocked him. I have nothing against him and don't see why he was banned either since he was not a provocateur.

Better ask the admins and the people who trashed him, dude. I don't know.

[Matritensis]

I know,I was not talking about you.

[Black Turlogh]

No,no.That's not the correct question.The question is:why so many people feel free to say things that they would never(and I'm sure of this,because cowards always strike when there's no danger,and very viciously) say to anybody's face?

That's part of the fun of the internet, isn't it?

[Matritensis]

Well,for my part,I act in the internet exactly the same as I do in real life.Maybe some could find this funny,but I'm not lying or kidding.

[Black Turlogh]

Well,for my part,I act in the internet exactly the same as I do in real life.Maybe some could find this funny,but I'm not lying or kidding.

You're missing out on a good portion of the fun, then.

[Matritensis]

Maybe...the temptation grows stronger,though!

[Vulpix]

Life's too short to think about race when considering your partner.

You might meet someone of your own "race" who's a complete b!tch or b@st@rd with whom you have nothing in common aside from what's skin-deep.

On the other hand, you might meet someone from a completely different "race" who is kind, takes genuine interest in your hobbies and goals, and respects your time and personality.

How did I miss this post? What drivel!!...

[Lutiferre]

How did I miss this post? What drivel!...
Hey, we only have one life.

[Brännvin]

Hey, we only have one life.

And?

Still not validate it.

[Stegura]

..:rolleyes: Seriously I saw others your posts in internet often in anthro-classifications etc. I'm wondering: are you really Gypsy or just a bored young troll? If you're troll you have just too much time...If you're Gypsy who visit European preservationist or publicly racialist forums you have real trouble with yourself.

Well, it didn't take long for him to request his classification yet again after getting banned from here.

http://www.panf.info/upload/showthread.php?t=4790

Honestly, IM needs to get a hobby.

[BlasphemousDeception]

Well, it didn't take long for him to request his classification yet again after getting banned from here.

http://www.panf.info/upload/showthread.php?t=4790

Honestly, IM needs to get a hobby.

Life is cruel when even diablo doesn't find you White.:D
Y'know,in a strange way I kind of admire the fellows persistence.

[Amarantine]

IM, Finnish gypsies are not ugly, quite the opposite. Some of the girls are really gorgeous. And most are Christian and usually very religious.

Maybe you could find yourself a nice, Finnish, gypsy girl to take back to Austria?

I'll try to find you a video or videos of Finnish gypsies.

EDIT:

A very pretty gypsy girl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_624djvLRLA&feature=related

Gypsies singing a religious song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtq3c7Grla8&feature=related

Another gypsy singing in the church. He's far from ugly, IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzd5n0rYd5M



Shush, I am way too old for IM. :coffee:

Oh Gosh, doooon't do that Aino...both facts could be very attractive to IM.
:):)

[Stegura]

Life is cruel when even diablo doesn't find you White.:D.

Don't be so sure! ;)

http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=929393&postcount=39

[Aino]

Oh Gosh, doooon't do that Aino...both facts could be very attractive to IM.
:):)

Do what, Amarantine? :)

I am sure Finland can spare a gypsy girl or two for IM. We are a generous people. ;)

[Stegura]

I am sure Finland can spare a gypsy girl or two for IM. We are a generous people. ;)

But then he'd be cheating on his white girlfriend!! She even has blonde hair and blue eyes!!:coffee:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=100507

[Amarantine]

How you find out all these forums, damn...I am feeling as total outsider.

[Aino]

But then he'd be cheating on his white girlfriend!! She even has blonde hair and blue eyes!!:coffee:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=100507

LOL at that thread.



How long have you had her chained up in your basement?

[Stegura]

How you find out all these forums, damn...I am feeling as total outsider.

Just call me the Internet Gestapo! :thumb001:

Well VNN is known for being the "Special Olympics" of Racialist boards. Thus it's usually fun to browse and explore. A.G. (Inquiring Mind) is one of the more entertaining personalities there.

[Brännvin]

I am sure Finland can spare a gypsy girl or two for IM. We are a generous people. ;)

I remember one gentleman saying he felt more aligned with Gypsies, in Finland, than the bulk of his solemn countrymen :D..

[Treffie]

Honestly, IM needs to get a hobby.


Erm, that is his hobby :p

[Aino]

Erm, that is his hobby :p

Agreed.




How blacks can be racist

I registered on a black nationalist forum and introduced myself as a brown gypsy who symphatize with fellow africans. They banned me after one post for '"trolling" and i got one response from a guy called "the bass" he said "bann this genetic recessive albino" before my thread got closed.

I didnt know blacks can be that racist, and i always thought they only dislike white people because they were slaves but they dislike everyone who is not dark as night.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=542

[Amarantine]

Agreed.



http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=542

:eek:How many anthroforums from ex Af members we have here?

[Treffie]

Why does it sound ridiculous that I on a preservationist forum say I think people should marry partners of their own ethnicity and thus preserving their heritages?

Perhaps you should consider another forum if you don't agree with perservationist and anti-multicultural views?

Or perhaps you should consider another forum if you can't handle members arguing against you? ;)

[Brännvin]

Or perhaps you should consider another forum if you can't handle members arguing against you? ;)

So Apricity is now a neutral forum such as Anthrocivitas? :wink

Ps: It was not on rules when I signed here..

[Poltergeist]

So Apricity is now a neutral forum such as Anthrocivitas? :wink

Is a forum like herpes/stirpes which heavily censors any view even slightly dissenting from the "party line" of the staff (who belong to an extremely retarded variety of racialist whackos) an ideal for you?

[Treffie]

So Apricity is now a neutral forum such as Anthrocivitas? :wink

Wut? This topic can be argued in the same fashion on both fora IMO. Members can put forward an argument and it can then be countered - it's called debate ;)

[Östsvensk]

Or perhaps you should consider another forum if you can't handle members arguing against you? ;)

Here is a nice forum for you, where you probably can find many of your liberal friends arguing for miscegenation:

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/

[Poltergeist]

Here is a nice forum for you, where you probably can find many of your liberal friends arguing for miscegenation:

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/

It is contradictio in adiecto.

[Brännvin]

Wut? This topic can be argued in the same fashion on both fora IMO. Members can put forward an argument and it can then be countered - it's called debate ;)


Preaching multiracialism as some posters here on this thread?

While Lady Lyfing posted a photo of the Ku Klux Klan was censored, Nuke was banned for expressing a personal opinion..

What FUCK is this forum after all?

[Treffie]

Here is a nice forum for you, where you probably can find many of your liberal friends arguing for miscegenation:

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/


No thanks. I'm already Admin on the forum in my signature and SuperMod here ;)

But seriously, if you want to join the one in my sig, you're welcome to ;)

[Brännvin]

Is a forum like herpes/stirpes which heavily censors any view even slightly dissenting from the "party line" of the staff (who belong to an extremely retarded variety of racialist whackos) an ideal for you?

This forum also is full of censors :wink

[Östsvensk]

I still find it quite ironic that this forum is named "Cultural & Ethnic European Preservation" when people holding these views seems to be a minority having to argue for it time to time?

Edit: Minority was a bit pushing it. But still, you have to argue...

[Tabiti]

Why is he banned?

[Brännvin]

This topic can be argued in the same fashion on both fora IMO. Members can put forward an argument and it can then be countered - it's called debate ;)

Then both forums are on their way to be merge into one? :eek:

[Hussar]

Why is he banned?


Good question.

He didn't insult anyone from what i know. And his racial bacground isn't a problem here (Laurentian wasn't banned).


Maybe he insulted someone behind public lines ?

[Absinthe]

I must be because he didn't pass the "cuteness" criterion :p

[Hussar]

I must be because he didn't pass the "cuteness" criterion :p


Now i understand why many members don't post their pics ! ;)

[Brännvin]

Maybe he insulted someone behind public lines ?

Already said, perhaps he had begun to harass the female members :D ..

[Tabiti]

Already said, perhaps he had begun to harass the female members :D ..
I feel discriminated then:(

[Hussar]

Already said, perhaps he had begun to harass the female members :D ..


Strange......i was told his flirting strategies were elegant and refined ! :D




I feel discriminated then


would you like i provide him your mail contact so he can approach you ? :laugh:

[Brännvin]

I feel discriminated then:(

Sorry to say, he prefers blondes ;)

[Svanhild]

I'm not interested in relationships or marriage outside my race or ethnicity. I prefer lads of my own folk and in the best case people of my proximity, to stay local and tribal.

[Osweo]

I feel discriminated then:(
Damn, I'm going to have to try to harass you much harder if you're not even noticing it. :eek:

I'm not interested in relationships or marriage outside my race or ethnicity. I prefer lads of my own folk and in the best case people of my proximity, to stay local and tribal.
Even within your own region/dialect zone? :)

[Svanhild]

Even within your own region/dialect zone? :)
Not necessarily but it would be a good extra. :wink

[Brännvin]

I'm not interested in relationships or marriage outside my race or ethnicity. I prefer lads of my own folk and in the best case people of my proximity, to stay local and tribal.

Racist :P

[Svanhild]

Racist :P
I don't believe in hell thus I don't care. :wink

[Manifest Destiny]

Actually, (and this goes to "anonymous" and "Elfchika" as well) some of the members of this forum are not what I expected to see on a European preservationist forum.

And this should have entered your mind before reading my statement.

Yeah, I expected the members to be:

1) Of European descent

2) Supporters of the ethnic and cultural preservation of their own people

Guess I was wrong. :rolleyes:


But then he'd be cheating on his white girlfriend!! She even has blonde hair and blue eyes!!:coffee:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=100507

A half-Gypsy dating a white person. Now THAT is what I call preservation. Maybe we should give Seal and Heidi a medal of honor, too?


I feel discriminated then:(

He's obviously active on other forums. You could ask him for a date. :thumb001:

[Atlas]

I don't believe in hell thus I don't care. :wink

Well-responded.

[Stegura]

A Thread of related interest ;)

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=57091

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9515/qqqqf.jpg

Started by you know who! :D

[Heimmacht]

A Thread of related interest ;)

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=57091

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9515/qqqqf.jpg

Started by you know who! :D

Ah, I saw his mug on SF a while ago.

[Goidelic]

A Thread of related interest ;)

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=57091

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9515/qqqqf.jpg

Started by you know who! :D

His face is giving me nightmares! :p:D

Please stop! :p:D

[Murphy]

I wouldn't marry a German so I doubt I'd marry a Turk.

Regards,
The Papist.

[Trog]

I wonder Eoin, would you prize creed over colour? In other words, isn't a potential spouse being Catholic more important than their racial origins? I'm not promoting race mixing here, just trying to guage priorities. Faith is far more part of my identity than even being Scottish etc is. I give it all up for Rome.

[Murphy]

I wonder Eoin, would you prize creed over colour?

Every time. My Faith is more important than anything else. But even then, I still doubt I'll marry outside my ethnic group.

Regards,
The Papist.

[jerney]

Well, according to this (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202666&postcount=41) post

http://i44.tinypic.com/24m8evc.jpg

[Ibericus]

Interracial couple :D Who is the swedish and who is the Spanish ??

http://www.hola.com/musica/2009/02/25/soraya-cibeles/imgs/soraya1a.jpg

[Arne]

The right one is Spanish ..and the female swedish

[Austin]

my god she's in heels and still looks short

[Ibericus]

The right one is Spanish ..and the female swedish
Wrong. The woman is spanish (Soraya Arnelas) and her boyfriend is Swedish

[The Lawspeaker]

But they are not a "racially incorrect couple"- both are Europeans.

[Ibericus]

But they are not a "racially incorrect couple"- both are Europeans.
I know, it was sarcasm. People think the woman is swedish, when she is actually the spanish, and the man swedish :D I like to provoke nordicists

[Pallantides]

I have never seen them before, but somehow I guessed the guy was a Swede.


The right one is Spanish ..and the female swedish

Duh... you cant spot a Swede when you see one, just look at the semi-oblivious face of is. :p

[Grey]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5939/130pxwendysp.jpg + http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8233/tokenblack2.png

[Absinthe]

http://img.youtube.com/vi/1gcBZabBTxs/0.jpg

[Daos]

^Those aren't different races, but different species...:icon_rolleyes:

[Sadie]

I never understand a beautiful northern European blond woman who marries a disgusting wog (Italian, Spaniard, Greek etc) That's the worst kind of racial mixing. *yuck* Even a northern European woman with a negro is better, although no good.

Southern Europeans are sissies, I never met one who was a man. In all kinds of wars they always had their asses kicked by northerners.

[Murphy]

In a way, you're all no different from nosy housewives sitting with their tea reading gossip columns in OK! magazine..

[Murphy]

[. . .]

Just fuck off lass, please.

[Daos]

In all kinds of wars they always had their asses kicked by northerners.

Yeah, I mean, just look at Napoleon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon)... What a wuss!:rolleyes:

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[Amapola]

If Sadie could go back in time, and came across a true Iberian soldier with his falkata, she would piss her knickers :D

[Radojica]

If Sadie could go back in time, and came across a true Iberian soldier with his falkata, she would piss her knickers :D

Or some Serbians/Chetniks, like these :scared:

http://www.leksikon-yu-mitologije.net/files/Cetnik%20Slavko%20Aleksic%20i%20oficir%20Novkovic% 20%282%20nepoznata%29.jpg

[Amapola]

http://www.futuropasado.com/images/jabatobernal.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/jorge_stroh/leg_iberos_i_honderos_01.jpg

[Svanhild]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/jorge_stroh/leg_iberos_i_honderos_01.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0KKBXVyKOxg/SwmvqMEKbNI/AAAAAAAAAEc/FPt9wTAHN1Y/s1600/viking_warrior-752252.jpg

I'd bet on men without mini skirt. :wink

[Pallantides]

Yeah because that is an accurate historical portrayal of a Germanic warrior. :D

http://www.livius.org/a/1/germania/germanic_warrior.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3107/2513136691_b98baae981.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll54/Liffrea66/Visigoth_warrior.jpg



I'd bet on men without mini skirt. :wink

http://www.edupics.com/bronze-age-t2992.jpg

[Svanhild]

Wait: You say that's no accurate portrayal?

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/7166/nordicwarrior.jpg

You must be wrong! :wink

[Ibericus]

Wait: You say that's no accurate portrayal?

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/7166/nordicwarrior.jpg

You must be wrong! :wink

Nordic fantasy and myth at it's best ;)

[Radojica]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0KKBXVyKOxg/SwmvqMEKbNI/AAAAAAAAAEc/FPt9wTAHN1Y/s1600/viking_warrior-752252.jpg

I'd bet on men without mini skirt. :wink

Ohh, but they wear mini skirts to make things easier for.... :wink

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b0/Milos_Obilic.jpg

:coffee:

[antonio]

I never understand a beautiful northern European blond woman who marries a disgusting wog (Italian, Spaniard, Greek etc) That's the worst kind of racial mixing. *yuck* Even a northern European woman with a negro is better, although no good.

Southern Europeans are sissies, I never met one who was a man. In all kinds of wars they always had their asses kicked by northerners.

What's the point of this shit?

But don't suffer. We have enough beautiful blonde woman in Spain and hence no need to resort to Swedish ones, that in the case that we prefer blondes to brunettes, which it's highly debatable.

[jerney]

I never understand a beautiful northern European blond woman who marries a disgusting wog (Italian, Spaniard, Greek etc) That's the worst kind of racial mixing. *yuck* Even a northern European woman with a negro is better, although no good.

Southern Europeans are sissies, I never met one who was a man. In all kinds of wars they always had their asses kicked by northerners.

You're not even a good troll.

[Jarl]

Wait: You say that's no accurate portrayal?

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/7166/nordicwarrior.jpg

You must be wrong! :wink

This dude (Germanic warrior ideal? ;) ) looks rather hilarious... some beefy gorilla with a horned cauldron on his head and a massive spike... looks like some big mindless elephant... ;)


In fact, Medieval men who knew how to do their business often took off their armour and helmets to show their contempt for death.

Chainmail was first more frequently used by the Franks (who borrowed it from the Gauls and Romans) and then by the Normans. Just like cavalary.

So in fact, that example fails miserably as Germanics borrowed these innovationes from the Southros.

[Sadie]

You're not even a good troll.

I am not a troll in the first place.

[poiuytrewq0987]

This dude (Germanic warrior ideal? ;) ) looks rather hilarious... some beefy gorilla with a horned cauldron on his head and a massive spike... looks like some big mindless elephant... ;)


In fact, Medieval men who knew how to do their business often took off their armour and helmets to show their contempt for death.

Chainmail was first more frequently used by the Franks (who borrowed it from the Gauls and Romans) and then by the Normans. Just like cavalary.

So in fact, that example fails miserably as Germanics borrowed these innovationes from the Southros.

lol. (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/landingArmy.jsp?catId=cat50024&rootCatGameStyle=)

[poiuytrewq0987]

I am not a troll in the first place.

http://www.onlineticketsusa.com/images/show/pinocchio.gif

[Cato]

I never understand a beautiful northern European blond woman who marries a disgusting wog (Italian, Spaniard, Greek etc) That's the worst kind of racial mixing. *yuck* Even a northern European woman with a negro is better, although no good.

[b]Southern Europeans are sissies, I never met one who was a man. In all kinds of wars they always had their asses kicked by northerners.[b]


I thanked you on this post just for being a stupid cunt.

Gaius Marius defeated Germanic invasions of southern Europe about 100bce.

Caesar chased Germanics back over the Rhine river about 55bce.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar's_Rhine_bridges

This was during the time Caesar was beating the snot out of the Gallic tribesmen and leading raids into what is now called the United Kingdom. Then the two Roman generals nicknamed Germanicus, the elder of whom was the brother of the Emperor Tiberius (the younger was his nephew; the other of Tiberius' nephews, Claudius the crippled swarthy, successfully invaded Britain about a century after Caesar's two attempts). Tiberius himself was also well-known for beating up Germanics, at the behest of his father-in-law the great swarthy Augustus.

Trajan owned the Dacians, Marcus Aurelius won victories against the Germanics in the Danube area, as did that faker Constantine and Julian the so-called Apostate (win against the Germanic tribes). "Swarthies" have had a very good track record of beating the northern Europeans quite handily- until the "barbarians" learned from the Romans (swarthies by your definition, troll-twat), and beat them at their own game.

Dumb fucking cunt.

[Cato]

^
No apologies, I'm sick of troll fucks on the forum. :grumpy:

[Jarl]

lol. (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/landingArmy.jsp?catId=cat50024&rootCatGameStyle=)

Yeah. Gotrek probable recapitulates the Germanic ideal better ;)

[Pallantides]

According to GW themselves the Beastmen were infulenced quite a lot by the Germanic tribes.:)
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m650041a_P1Mb1.jpg

And of course the Empire is based mostly on Renaissance Germany.
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2420006_P1Mb1.jpg

[Jarl]

According to GW themselves the Beastmen were infulenced quite a lot by the Germanic tribes.:)

Beastmen not really. But the marauders of chaos certainly yes. They are Warhammer's "Vikings" from "Norsca" ;)


And of course the Empire is based mostly on Renaissance Germany.

Indeed. Particularly the two-handed swordsmen who look like Landsknechts. While Kislev is based on Poland and Russia.

[Svanhild]

Gaius Marius defeated Germanic invasions of southern Europe about 100bce.

Caesar chased Germanics back over the Rhine river about 55bce.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar's_Rhine_bridges

Then the two Roman generals nicknamed Germanicus, the elder of whom was the brother of the Emperor Tiberius (the younger was his nephew; the other of Tiberius' nephews, Claudius the crippled swarthy, successfully invaded Britain about a century after Caesar's two attempts). Tiberius himself was also well-known for beating up Germanics, at the behest of his father-in-law the great swarthy Augustus.

Trajan owned the Dacians, Marcus Aurelius won victories against the Germanics in the Danube area, as did that faker Constantine and Julian the so-called Apostate (win against the Germanic tribes).
Pardon my French, but you're advocating ancient imperial wars against Northern and Central Europeans on their territories. Romans wanted to conquer Celts and Germanics on their very own land. How on earth could this be justifiable in any imaginable way? They had no damn right to enter foreign territory to slaughter people and destroy tribal culture and traditional values. Truth be told, I'm rather shocked about your post. It's ignorant and abounds of injustice and conceit. Germanicus was a mass murder of children and women, get an objective history book.

"They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind" and the Romans had to take a lethal overdose of their own medicine when Northern tribes decided to shatter the Roman Empire once and for all, taking the prevalence over the continent down to the present day. That's the prize of insolence. :wink

[Pallantides]

Beastmen not really.


I meant the ancient Germanic tribes were one of the infulences on the Beastmen, GW stated this themselves.

[Jarl]

"They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind" and the Romans had to take an overdose of their own medicine when Germanic tribes decided to shatter the empire once and for all. That's the price for insolence.

It was not just the Germanics who suddenly "decided". By that time the Empire was split into two separate states, wrecked by civil unrest and weakened by the invasion of the Huns. The process of integrating Germanics into the Roman culture had been going on for centuries. The Byzantines held out well. Smashed the Ostrogoths and the Vandals restoring most of Western Empire under Justinian I.

If not for in the conflict between the real ancient civilisations, the Byzantines and the Sassanids, the Roman Empire could have been well restored.


I meant the ancient Germanic tribes were one of the infulences on the Beastmen, GW stated this themselves.

Then I got no further questions :)

[Grey]

On the subject of racially incorrect couples, I submit Matt Stone and his negress:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9615/angela20howardstone20an.jpg

Gonna be some pretty kids.

[Pallantides]

Isn't Matt Stone Jewish anyway, so who cares?:p

[Grey]

Isn't Matt Stone Jewish anyway, so who cares?:p

Half. But I never said otherwise; they're racially incompatible anyway.

[Matritensis]

Pardon my French, but you're advocating ancient imperial wars against Northern and Central Europeans on their territories. Romans wanted to conquer Celts and Germanics on their very own land. How on earth could this be justifiable in any imaginable way? They had no damn right to enter foreign territory to slaughter people and destroy tribal culture and traditional values. Truth be told, I'm rather shocked about your post. It's ignorant and abounds of injustice and conceit. Germanicus was a mass murder of children and women, get an objective history book.

"They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind" and the Romans had to take a lethal overdose of their own medicine when Northern tribes decided to shatter the Roman Empire once and for all, taking the prevalence over the continent down to the present day. That's the prize of insolence. :wink


Are you trying to apply twenty-first century political correctness to ancient warfare? Nobody gave a damn about "tribal culture" back then.

[Cato]

Pardon my French, but you're advocating ancient imperial wars against Northern and Central Europeans on their territories. Romans wanted to conquer Celts and Germanics on their very own land. How on earth could this be justifiable in any imaginable way? They had no damn right to enter foreign territory to slaughter people and destroy tribal culture and traditional values. Truth be told, I'm rather shocked about your post. It's ignorant and abounds of injustice and conceit. Germanicus was a mass murder of children and women, get an objective history book.

"They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind" and the Romans had to take a lethal overdose of their own medicine when Northern tribes decided to shatter the Roman Empire once and for all, taking the prevalence over the continent down to the present day. That's the prize of insolence. :wink

Shocked about what? Shocked that I pointed out that the Romans beat up on the Germanics just as they beat up on the Greeks, Gauls, Carthaginians, and just about every other race around the Mediterranean and then some? :eek: Or shocked that I don't automatically take the side of the proto-Germanic tribes, who seem to exist as noble savages in the minds of many? The Romans had the right- the right of might and the sword, just as the tribes did a few centuries later when it was the turn of Rome to get its butt handed to it in a sack. Viewing ancient warmongering, one can toss modern values right out the window. Hundreds of thousands or millions of people died in ancient warfare, often in the most horrible ways possible- crucified like the survivors of Spartacus' army or burnt alive in wicker cages like the survivors of Varus' army.

As to history books, who Suetonius, Tacitus, Livius, Ammianus Marcellinus, Caesar himself? I've never read a single modern book on Roman/German wars. Don't pretend that there weren't raids, plundering excursions, and outright migrations by the Germanic tribes into Roman territory, beginning at the earliest with this rather nasty conflict between the Republic (on the defense) and Cimbri and Teuteones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimbrian_War

"The Cimbrian War (113–101 BC) was fought between the Roman Republic and the Proto-Germanic tribes of the Cimbri and the Teutons (Teutones), who migrated from northern Europe into Roman controlled territory, and clashed with Rome and her allies. The Cimbrian War was the first time since the Second Punic War that Italia and Rome itself had been seriously threatened."

Marius spanked these marauders at Aquae Sextiae after several Roman defeats, including the disaster at Arausio, where maybe 100,000 Roman and allied soldiers bit the dust- a far greater number than perished at Cannae under the arms of Hannibal Barca.

This was a mass migration of hundreds of thousands of people from Jutland and thereabouts, not a warband going viking into Roman territory. They were on the march, looking for a place to settle- and they menaced Italy. Is it any wonder why the Romans often took punitive action against the tribes beyond the Rhine and Danube? As to mass-murdering people, the Roman legions simply fought wars in the style of the times- total war, going as far back in recorded history as Sargon of Akkad. The Romans, like the Assyrians and just about every other ancient powerhoue, pulverized their enemies, sacked their cities, killed people en masse, etc. Ask Corinth or Carthage itself or that over-valued rathole Jerusalem. The Romans had no qualms about sacking their own cities, Stabiae and Pompey being a good example, both of which were razed (and later rebuilt) by Sulla in the Social War, when the need was called for.

The Romans took an overdose of Germanic muscle in the end, but, in a curious or not so curious twist, these Germanics set themselves up among the ruins of the people that they helped to overthrow. :thumbs up

[Beorn]

Nobody gave a damn about "tribal culture" back then.

Now who is applying 21st Century politics to an ancient people? :)

[Matritensis]

Not me...she mentioned the "tribal culture" thing first.

[Svanhild]

Shocked about what? Shocked that I pointed out that the Romans beat up on the Germanics just as they beat up on the Greeks, Gauls, Carthaginians, and just about every other race around the Mediterranean and then some? :eek: Or shocked that I don't automatically take the side of the proto-Germanic tribes, who seem to exist as noble savages in the minds of many?
I'm shocked about the fact that you deny the right of self determination for a lot of European tribes retroactively. What's the board all about? Self determination of European countries and ethnicities. You'll receive applause from a few Romanophiles for your sentiment but that doesn't make your view more right.

The Romans had the right- the right of might and the sword, just as the tribes did a few centuries later when it was the turn of Rome to get its butt handed to it in a sack.
I'm afraid that Roman warmongering and imperialism was the main source for the subsequent rage of the Central European tribes to attack and eventually finish the Roman Empire. Again: "They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind."

Hundreds of thousands or millions of people died in ancient warfare, often in the most horrible ways possible- crucified like the survivors of Spartacus' army or burnt alive in wicker cages like the survivors of Varus' army.
The brutal idiocy of other ancient war leaders doesn't make their acts more warrantable. However that be, that's not the topic. I doubt we'll find some common ground on which to base here.

[Lithium]

http://i42.tinypic.com/abgewz.jpg
bulgarian girl with ethnic turk
It's not for this thread, but It's disgusting on the same level..

[Jarl]

the proto-Germanic tribes, who seem to exist as noble savages in the minds of many?

I guess that is the main problem. Looking from a modern, national POV on ppl who had little sense of unity, not to mention of some national identity.

Idealising those barbarians as some peaceful pacifists living in happy communities "on their own" land until they were raided by the evil Roman warmongers will not help either. Those people were not peaceful, they were not holding on to their original abodes, and they were "slaughtering" their neighbours and each other for centuries.

As for "the rights" of the Romans to invade Germania - what rights had the Germanics to expand out of Jutland and Scandinavia into Celtic, Slavic and Sarmatian lands?

[Cato]

I'm shocked about the fact that you deny the right of self determination for a lot of European tribes retroactively. What's the board all about? Self determination of European countries and ethnicities. You'll receive applause from a few Romanophiles for your sentiment but that doesn't make your view more right.

I'm afraid that Roman warmongering and imperialism was the main source for the subsequent rage of the Central European tribes to attack and eventually finish the Roman Empire. Again: "They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind."

The brutal idiocy of other ancient war leaders doesn't make their acts more warrantable. However that be, that's not the topic. I doubt we'll find some common ground on which to base here.

Contact and conflict with Rome changed the tribes forever and for the better, unless you prefer the ideals of of a society that practiced cattle-raiding, intertribal warfare, subsistence farming, and burying people in bogs to be better than those of a state organized on the level of the city (as compared to the tribe). The Germanic tribes, like the Romans as well ('mos maiorum'), had noble qualities, perhaps embellished by the likes of Tacitus in his Germania (which was also a historian's statement on the state of Roman society at the time- 'see the noble Germans as compared to we decadent Romans'), but I'd hardly call that sort of life the life that I'd want to live. Imagine the thralls, just as worked, and probably just as meanly-treated, as Roman slaves. Or imagine being illiterate, the only signs your people possessing being runes that only mystics and seers might understand. At least in Rome a slave could buy his or her freedom with the pecunium or be manumitted, and some of these ex-slaves, like Claudius' sneaky freedmen (Narcissus, Pallas), could do quite well. I don't think thralls had the upward mobility. :confused:

The tribes helped to do the Roman Empire in, but the imperium rotted from within when the people began to become soft and complacent and expecting too much of the bread and circuses style of easy living. Misappropriation didn't help either: building palaces, holding games, building churches (when the Empire became Christian), etc. The Germanics had the opposite attitude, doing away with listless bums and soft touches that wouldn't farm, fight, or work. The Romans were once like the Germanics, but they went soft and went down the drain after building the mightiest empire in the ancient world. The Germanics that took over tried to keep some of this alive, Theodoric being the best example that I can think of, but they got that way by being in constant conflict/contact with the Romans- it was a love/hate relationship.

I'm the distant product of the Anglo, Jutish, and Saxon (and later Danish, Norman, etc.) bum rush into post-Roman Britain. Centuries later, the distant progeny of these marauders bum rushed North America. Now, the once great Anglo-Saxon republic of North America is being bum rushed by filthy wetbacks, ragheads, and coloreds- and if the citizenry doesn't have the will and the strength to resist them, or remake the government, then, like corrupt Rome, it's probably better to hammer the last few nails into the coffin of the United States.

What's done is done, in all cases.

[Cato]

I guess that is the main problem. Looking from a modern, national POV on ppl who had little sense of unity, not to mention of some national identity.

Idealising those barbarians as some peaceful pacifists living in happy communities "on their own" land until they were raided by the evil Roman warmongers will not help either. Those people were not peaceful, they were not holding on to their original abodes, and they were "slaughtering" their neighbours and each other for centuries.

As for "the rights" of the Romans to invade Germania - what rights had the Germanics to expand out of Jutland and Scandinavia into Celtic, Slavic and Sarmatian lands?

They were hardly peaceful. They fought and died, first with each other or, say, the Celts, and then with the Romans. This sort of attitude about the Germanics is basically just the same as Amerindians, who hold that North America was some kind of utopia prior to the white man's coming, and it was the white man who fired up the injuns on the warpath with guns and booze. :rolleyes: The Amerindian tribes, just like the Germanic tribes, were at low-level conflict with each other well back into times immemorial and it was the outsiders, Europeans during the Age of Exploration and the Romans, who showed these tribal peoples that conflicts could be fought in an entirely different manner- with organized armies, scorched earth tactics, using dirty tricks like land-grabbing, etc.

One only needs to look at Shaka to see how violent tribal conflicts can be. Shaka, who studied European fighting methods from his contacts with the British, revolutionized the Zulu forces and, well, the rest is history: slaughters of Zulu enemies, mass migrations of defeated peoples, etc.

[Jarl]

At least in Rome a slave could buy his or her freedom with the pecunium or be manumitted, and some of these ex-slaves, like Claudius' sneaky freedmen (Narcissus, Pallas), could do quite well. I don't think thralls had the upward mobility. :confused:

Rome... the US of the antiquity! :D



The tribes helped to do the Roman Empire in, but the imperium rotted from within when the people began to become soft and complacent and expecting too much of the bread and circuses style of easy living. Misappropriation didn't help either: building palaces, holding games, building churches (when the Empire became Christian), etc. The Germanics had the opposite attitude, doing away with listless bums and soft touches that wouldn't farm, fight, or work. The Romans were once like the Germanics, but they went soft and went down the drain after building the mightiest empire in the ancient world. The Germanics that took over tried to keep some of this alive, Theodoric being the best example that I can think of, but they got that way by being in constant conflict/contact with the Romans- it was a love/hate relationship.


As for "reaping and sowing"... It is vital to stress that everybody was reaping and sowing. Meddling Roman elites, praetorians, the romanised Germanic chieftains of the tribes living along the limes. The wild, expansive tribes from the "backcountry". The Huns. The Byzantines etc. etc.

It was indeed one great whirlwind that destroyed the ancient order and greatly changed everyone who was involved and who survived. Was Rome really defeated? I think hardly. The barbaric waves that swet across Italy were just another chapter. Before there were the Celts, the Cathaginians, and the Huns. Then came the Byzantines. But the civilisational edifice largely remained the same.

And its best reflected by the barbarians adopting Roman laws, lifestyle, culture and even language, and in the barbarians' aspirations to the Roman traditions.


They were hardly peaceful. They fought and died, first with each other or, say, the Celts, and then with the Romans. This sort of attitude about the Germanics is basically just the same as Amerindians, who hold that North America was some kind of utopia prior to the white man's coming, and it was the white man who fired up the injuns on the warpath with guns and booze. :rolleyes: The Amerindian tribes, just like the Germanic tribes, were at low-level conflict with each other well back into times immemorial and it was the outsiders, Europeans during the Age of Exploration and the Romans, who showed these tribal peoples that conflicts could be fought in an entirely different manner- with organized armies, scorched earth tactics, using dirty tricks like land-grabbing, etc.

One only needs to look at Shaka to see how violent tribal conflicts can be. Shaka, who studied European fighting methods from his contacts with the British, revolutionized the Zulu forces and, well, the rest is history: slaughters of Zulu enemies, mass migrations of defeated peoples, etc.


Of course! The rough, barbaric, beastly brutality of "Northern barbarians" can be easily traced in written accounts. There are concrete written sources on what the barbaric tribes did. The Picts, the Goths, the Vandals, Danes, Poles, Polabians even well into the second millenium.

And no XIX-century antiquarian romantic visions of "noble savages" will ever change that. The chaotic, lawless character of tribal societies can in no way be compared to the model of a lawful centralised state based on Roman traditions.

[Cato]

Rome... the US of the antiquity! :D

Both were the product of a single people, both got too big for their britches, and both collapsed into a festering pile. Well, at least in Rome's case; Columbia is headed in that direction like the flaming trainwreck waiting to happen.

:):grumpy:

[hajduk]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs058.snc4/35260_1388636748242_1001773129_30860190_3018856_n. jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs017.ash2/34229_136515823034258_100000275236009_296637_82092 19_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs016.snc4/34139_1320158689369_1392854372_30724475_1256535_n. jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs610.snc3/32098_399312403811_540538811_4063218_8219356_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs604.snc3/31804_1190669586575_1823437167_378480_3062785_n.jp g

[Pallantides]

http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/00673/_0000578111_jpg_673699a.jpg
:(:(:(

[Aramis]

This one (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs016.snc4/34139_1320158689369_1392854372_30724475_1256535_n. jpg) is not bad, as he shall spread his nordic genes into the negroid population!

[Pallantides]

This one (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs016.snc4/34139_1320158689369_1392854372_30724475_1256535_n. jpg) is not bad, as he shall spread his nordic genes into the negroid population!

And make Nordic Mulattos! :D

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn79/smcknight2007/alicia_key.jpg

[Aramis]

And make Nordic Mulattos! :D

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn79/smcknight2007/alicia_key.jpg

Nordic Mulattos in Africa. No rest until it's all nordic!

[Curtis24]

yeah, why exactly is racial intermixing "incorrect"?

[Lulletje Rozewater]

yeah, why exactly is racial intermixing "incorrect"?


http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/does_race_mixing_increase_physical_attractiveness/

[Megrez]

Two examples from bloody Brazil:

http://revistaquem.globo.com/Revista/Quem/foto/0,,19335679,00.jpg
Actress Ludmila Dayer and the north american rapper Sleepy Brown

http://contigo.abril.com.br/imagem/noticia/200905/ampliada/samara-felippo-090509-2.jpg
Actress Samara Felippo and basketball player Leandrinho

http://www.cabecadecuia.com/imagem/materias/samaraalicia450_332cb22236cb018552e73143e5b09fbd.j pg
"beautiful baby uh?" FAIL.

[Cato]

yeah, why exactly is racial intermixing "incorrect"?

Why did you join this forum then?

[Pallantides]

Why did you join this forum then?

Maybe he is just in it for the cultural preservation and not the ethnic part...



http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/43/431/431829/bunad1Xart858.jpg
:eek::eek::eek:

[Megrez]

It reminds me an old discussion in a relationship website. A brazilian woman claiming to be of swedish descent said she didn't care about racial preservation, anyway her swedish culture and heritage would be preserved and transmitted to the future sons she would have with her black or mestizo boyfriend (I don't remember). Some guy answered her: "Look, Sweden likes you so much that god made you be born in Brazil". I laughed tears, too funny a statement lol.

[Lurker]

Two examples from bloody Brazil:

http://revistaquem.globo.com/Revista/Quem/foto/0,,19335679,00.jpg
Actress Ludmila Dayer and the north american rapper Sleepy Brown

http://contigo.abril.com.br/imagem/noticia/200905/ampliada/samara-felippo-090509-2.jpg
Actress Samara Felippo and basketball player Leandrinho

http://www.cabecadecuia.com/imagem/materias/samaraalicia450_332cb22236cb018552e73143e5b09fbd.j pg
"beautiful baby uh?" FAIL.

Since they're Brazilian, it's possible that they're not fully white. Therefore, the couple could be not that much incorrect.

Besides, those unions aren't happening in Europe, so, from an European preservationist standpoint, they're not that problematic. They're hapenning in the Americas (one involves an African American), a land that was only in part (the Northern) settled mainly by full Europeans. And if Europeans lose North America that's not nearly as problematic as losing Europe.

[Cato]

Maybe he is just in it for the cultural preservation and not the ethnic part...

It's still an eggheaded question to ask.

[Curtis24]

For sure it is. The truth is that I joined the forum to learn about physical anthropology, but this does not mean I'm not interested in the political and personal discussions as well.

My attitude towards race-mixing is that sometimes it can work. In any race, you're going to find people who are abnormal for that race, and more similar to people of other races. For example, there are many white men genetically predisposed to be just as cold and murderous as the worst blacks, and there are some blacks with I.Q. comparable to average whites, though they may be few. In those cases, it makes eminent sense to allow race-mixing. For instance, many Americans and European Caucasians feel more of an affinity with Japanese culture more than Western culture, and hence go to Japan to live and marry.

At the same time, I don't believe that society should pressure against or for race-mixing. Let people themselves decide based on interactions with individuals of other races.

[Furlan]

http://www.islandcrisis.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/TigerWoodsElinNordegren.jpg

This is the best example not of mongrelization but of ueber-mongrelization :puke:

[Eldritch]

http://i26.tinypic.com/2qbuo0w.jpg

What were these people's names again? (looks at American mermbers)

[la bombe]

What were these people's names again? (looks at American mermbers)

Mildred and Richard Loving.

[Eldritch]

Mildred and Richard Loving.

How appropriate. :rolleyes: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mildred_and_Richard_Loving)

[Megrez]

http://www.melhordovolei.com.br/imagens_noticias/jaque001.jpg
http://spf.fotolog.com.br/photo/31/23/11/murilo8/1244843739672_f.jpg
Murilo Endres and Jaqueline, both volleyball players

[Debaser11]

Doutzen Kroes, Frisian model.

http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20080922/doutzen%20kroes%20bikini%20candids%20miami%20sept% 2021/t/15thumb.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2008/stylewatch/gallery/beach_patrol/081013/doutzen_kroes.jpg

http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20080922/doutzen%20kroes%20bikini%20candids%20miami%20sept% 2021/t/11banner.jpg



This women seems to have black man fetish. Her last two boyfriends have been black, I believe. Both rappers. Gross. A sad loss of beauty (if not brains) for the Dutch.

Ladies, I mean no disrespect, but some of you don't exactly instill confidence in your abilities to choose healthy matches when you show a propensity to screw around with some low IQ Bantu who is just competent enough to spin vinyls and talk gibberish into a microphone. Seriously, some of these "men" I see white women with can barely function in the modern world. But these instances don't help when you argue with men that your gender is not overly emotional and just as rational. Can we get bets on how quickly this young "lady" gets her heart broken? After the first kid? Second? I have enough respect for women to assume most of them are not package hunters on so gross of a level as say, Heidi Klum. Guys are normally the ones who are that blatantly superficial. The difference is that men don't tend to become attached emotionally after a few rounds of bed bumping.

The black man's especially gross tendency to just be after sex (and nothing else) actually bothers me almost as much as the genetic problem. If I knew that this jackass respected her the way white men tend to respect women, I'd feel a bit better. The blacks just don't respect women on the whole. They tell you they don't in their music. I guess the rather superficial Ms. Kroers missed that bit or is too big of a whore to care. (Though I don't need to preach to most of the women here, I suppose, I will include this extra bit to consider.)

I've been out plenty enough times to hear the conversations between men of darker persuasion. Men talk too, ladies! Many times these conversations happen in the restroom. Many of these black men (despite how well they sweet talk) care little about you other than how you're going to help them get off. They talk about women as if they're disposable wrappers. They're never talking about your personality or any "deep" stuff like that. It's always very crude jungle talk. At least, the real pretentious, niggerish blacks certainly aren't talking about anything other than your unmentionables.

Last time I was out, I heard this little nugget between the brothers.

"Been two months since I had me a white bitch."
"Ahh shiiitt."

That crap is par for the course. Of course, white men can be garbage too. But even the trashy whites usually still have enough shame to refrain from speaking like such animals.

I'm not defending the male miscegenators, but when a European man marries a Chinese women, I at least think they can have some form of stimulating conversation to foster a real connection (provided she speaks more than broken English). I don't see how this is possible with some of these black men. It really must just be about the sex and "the way he makes me feel" when in public. And at least Europeans and northeast Asians each have triple digit IQs on average. They're at least not dumbing down the population with their progeny. And the Asian women won't spit out a kid and then leave her partner for another slab.

[Groenewolf]

This women seems to have black man fetish. Her last two boyfriends have been black, I believe. Both rappers. Gross. A sad loss of beauty (if not brains) for the Dutch.

Especially since she is pregnant now. What a shame.

[Debaser11]

Especially since she is now pregnant. What a shame.

Whether she admits it or not, she will live to regret it (just like Heidi did). She will learn just how much deeper than skin race truly is.

[Beorn]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/RaynHeartz/kimberley-walsh.jpg

Kimberley Walsh: I've only slept with two men (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1296428/Girls-Aloud-star-Kimberley-Walsh-reveals-shes-boyfriends.html)


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/21/article-0-0A8442CE000005DC-217_468x696.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/22/article-1296428-0A865005000005DC-792_233x274.jpg

[Debaser11]

She looks like the type who would. As someone else already mentioned, it's rarely intelligent women of the professional classes that engage in this nonsense.

[Eldritch]

I'm not defending the male miscegenators, but when a European man marries a Chinese women, I at least think they can have some form of stimulating conversation to foster a real connection (provided she speaks more than broken English). I don't see how this is possible with some of these black men. It really must just be about the sex and "the way he makes me feel" when in public. And at least Europeans and northeast Asians each have triple digit IQs on average. They're at least not dumbing down the population with their progeny. And the Asian women won't spit out a kid and then leave her partner for another slab.

I find it almost impossible to disapprove of white/Asian mixes these days. The fact that this coupling is almost always white male + Asian female is incidental. Both the short and long term effects of such pairing are vastly less deleterious to society than mixing with blacks (or with rock bottom ME/NA's to lesser extent).

[Cato]

I find it almost impossible to disapprove of white/Asian mixes these days. The fact that this coupling is almost always white male + Asian female is incidental. Both the short and long term effects of such pairing are vastly less deleterious to society than mixing with blacks (or with rock bottom ME/NA's to lesser extent).

East Asian, as in Chinese, Korean, or Japanese, that is the three advanced, cultured peoples/nations of Asia, as compared to the spearchuckers like the Cambodians, Laotians, Malayas, Filipinos, etc. My first date, moons ago, was with a Korean girl, who spoke perfect English and seemed as well-adjusted as any Caucasian girl of the same age (she was about 20 whereas I was about 17, twas so long ago).

[Eldritch]

East Asian, as in Chinese, Korean, or Japanese, that is the three advanced, cultured peoples/nations of Asia, as compared to the spearchuckers like the Cambodians, Laotians, Malayas, etc.

Where would you place Thais and the Vietnamese on that continuum?

[Cato]

Where would you place Thais and the Vietnamese on that continuum?

In the same descriptor as the Chinese did:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanman

At best, sinicized savages. The Chinese made inroads into SE Asia, but referred to the natives as Nanman (the Japanese called the same people Nanbanjin ("southern savage"), at first, but came to call Europeans by the same term- since the European explorers/traders always came from the south and the lack of such practices amongst the European sailors as regular bathing, etc.). This doesn't take into account, say, Chinese settlers who displaced the native savages.

[Debaser11]

East Asian, as in Chinese, Korean, or Japanese, that is the three advanced, cultured peoples/nations of Asia, as compared to the spearchuckers like the Cambodians, Laotians, Malayas, etc. My first date, moons ago, was with a Korean girl, who spoke perfect English and seemed as well-adjusted as any Caucasian girl of the same age (she was about 20 whereas I was about 17, twas so long ago).

As someone who has lived in Korea and traveled to Japan, Cambodia, Thailand, and Vietnam, I think this statement is right on the mark. However, I wouldn't put Cambodians as low as Mexicans, South American mestizos, blacks, or Gypsies in terms of intelligence or especially in terms of moral behavior. Actually, Cambodians were really sweet people from my experience.

[Cato]

As someone who has lived in Korea and traveled to Japan, Cambodia, Thailand, and Vietnam, I think this statement is right on the mark. However, I wouldn't put Cambodians as low as Mexicans, South American mestizos, blacks, or Gypsies in terms of intelligence or especially in terms of moral behavior. Actually, Cambodians were really sweet people from my experience.

Mexicans rate pretty low on the totem pole imo, I've seen a lot of them in my time, in frigging New York of all places, and my hometown has plenty of both Mexicans and SE Asians. You can see Thai/Viet groceries here and there, and the people seem hardworking and honest, far more so than the Mexicans or niggers, but they still seem to be an inferior lot when compared to the Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans.

[Pallantides]

Some of the Vietnamese in Norway are rather shady.

[Guapo]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/09/article-1301469-0ABB77C3000005DC-256_468x691.jpg

[Guapo]

Some of the Vietnamese in Norway are rather shady.

They're shady everywhere, especially when it comes to drug dealing. The whole family participates.

[Debaser11]

The Chinese are a mixed bag too from what I've heard. The Han Chinese are supposedly the ones really bringing up that country's IQ. But I guess they're the majority population anyways.

The southeast Asians are definitely more temperamental than Japs, Chinks, or Koreans. I was actually quite shocked at the difference. Koreans, despite their over inflated sense of superiority relative to whites, are actually great people. I have very fond memories of Koreans. And I don't blame you for dating one, Pallamedes. Their women are fit.

And where I live in Texas, Mexicans definitely rank low. My brother has all sorts of stories about blacks and Mexicans from working in the poor HEB. I think that job along with his night job is really turning him into a race realist. He's encountered stuff that would turn your stomach. Heh, one Mexican that came into his store didn't even understand the word "two." My brother had to actually say "dos."

[Eldritch]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/09/article-1301469-0ABB77C3000005DC-256_468x691.jpg

Looks like a marriage made in (a sleazy nightclub called) heaven to me, whoever these people are.

[Cato]

Pure Han Chinese, that is from the north of China or with ancestry in the north, are what I consider to be Chinese. The "others" for lack of a better term are sinicized SE Asians, gooks and dinks basically, with some Han ancestry. Chinese civilization emerged along the Yangzte (in northern China), the Great River, and gradually spread outwards from there.

[Psychonaut]

The Chinese are a mixed bag too from what I've heard. The Han Chinese are supposedly the ones really bringing up that country's IQ. But I guess they're the majority population anyways.

In this day and age Han is a nearly meaningless ethnonym. In the past, it certainly referred to a specific ethnic group, but nowadays means "any Chinese person native to the PRC who grew up speaking Mandarin and is not from one of the state-protected minority groups." The last semester of my Chinese program, we spoke at length with our teachers about the concept of ethnicity in modern China, and I was amazed to learn that one teacher who was clearly a Paleo-Mongolid and had roots in Yunnan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yunnan) would identify as being of the same ethnicity as a progressive North Sinid from Heilongjiang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heilongjiang). Morphotypically (and probably genotypically) they are worlds apart, but their sense of identity is a testament to the power of a dictatorial regime to shape the thoughts of their slaves.

[Debaser11]

I was amazed to learn that one teacher who was clearly a Paleo-Mongolid and had roots in Yunnan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yunnan) would identify as being of the same ethnicity as a progressive North Sinid from Heilongjiang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heilongjiang).

But race is just a social construct, right?
I guess the Yunnan can do that this day in age given the absurd levels of political correctness in the air. Just look at who gets to call themselves French, Dutch, and English. I guess I would be surprised that racially conscious Chinese would let them get away with that, though.

[Matritensis]

The black man's especially gross tendency to just be after sex (and nothing else) actually bothers me almost as much as the genetic problem.

Yeah,that would never happen to a white male...

[Debaser11]

Yeah,that would never happen to a white male...

Oh for Heaven's sake, I never even implied that white men were immune to such degenerate types of behavior in my post. I even went out of my way to state that some do behave this way. What a meager attempt to twist my words around.

You are familiar that it is black men who are more than likely to contract STDs, right?
It's black men who are more likely to sleep with a large number of women (over ten) in their lifetime.
It's black men who are more likely to skip out on parenting once they get a woman pregnant.
It's black men who are more likely to rape.
It's also black men who seem more likely to pen songs in which they glorify their sexual deviance.

The fact that for every handful of blacks that suffer from this type pathological behavior, you can find one or even a couple of whites hardly undermines my point.

[Sahson]

I saw a red-haired bruenn was madly in love with a middle-easterner at my lecture today. They had to put on quite a display right in front of me didn't they? The irony of the story? we we're learning about the Battle of Salamis.

[hajduk]

Two pretty bulgarian girls with nigger football player. What a disgrace!
http://static.blitz.bg/thumbnails/500/201034/20100828.wjrrvmcpri.jpg

[Debaser11]

Two pretty bulgarian girls with nigger football player. What a disgrace!
http://static.blitz.bg/thumbnails/500/201034/20100828.wjrrvmcpri.jpg


Gross...I was just about to eat. (You can tell that's a low-IQ POS footballer too.) So they like the bruthas in Eastern Europe now, too?! I better go back to this thread's counterpart.

[Matritensis]

Two pretty bulgarian girls with nigger football player. What a disgrace!
http://static.blitz.bg/thumbnails/500/201034/20100828.wjrrvmcpri.jpg


Lol,not for him!

[Sahson]

A friend of mine, from Brittany got married to this turk...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs151.snc4/36930_130320580334631_100000700691669_200426_10742 _n.jpg

[San Galgano]

A friend of mine, from Brittany got married to this turk...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs151.snc4/36930_130320580334631_100000700691669_200426_10742 _n.jpg

Not only this is a racially wrong couple, but she looks also a pretty girl while him is ugly as hell.

[Sahson]

Not only this is a racially wrong couple, but she looks also a pretty girl while him is ugly as hell.

I know, she hated her curly hair, I liked it...

She liked "bad boys". He is a very rich guy, he inherited $5 million, when we we're all at college. In doing so he bought 6 cars (porsche, jeep, etc.), he also never studied or did any work, and it was very obvious that he paid for his grades, he didn't even turn up to the exams! which were weighted 60% and then went to the 2nd best university in the state.

I think it was for the money, plus she had slept with him several times...

[poiuytrewq0987]

I know, she hated her curly hair, I liked it...

She liked "bad boys". He is a very rich guy, he inherited $5 million, when we we're all at college. In doing so he bought 6 cars (porsche, jeep, etc.), he also never studied or did any work, and it was very obvious that he paid for his grades, he didn't even turn up to the exams! which were weighted 60% and then went to the 2nd best university in the state.

I think it was for the money, plus she had slept with him several times...

It's pretty unbelievable how undeserving people acquire wealth by doing next to nothing.

[la bombe]

A friend of mine, from Brittany got married to this turk...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs151.snc4/36930_130320580334631_100000700691669_200426_10742 _n.jpg

Why would you post pics of your so-called friends on a board/thread where you know they're going to be openly bashed and criticized? That's messed up, bro.

[Sahson]

Why would you post pics of your so-called friends on a board/thread where you know they're going to be openly bashed and criticized? That's messed up, bro.

I would not go into in so much detail. But it's more like Were friends, But it is more along there behalf.

[San Galgano]

I know, she hated her curly hair, I liked it...

She liked "bad boys". He is a very rich guy, he inherited $5 million, when we we're all at college. In doing so he bought 6 cars (porsche, jeep, etc.), he also never studied or did any work, and it was very obvious that he paid for his grades, he didn't even turn up to the exams! which were weighted 60% and then went to the 2nd best university in the state.

I think it was for the money, plus she had slept with him several times...


That's sad. One day we will wake up in a sea of swarhty muslims. The reason?
Love? deep multiculturalism ? interest in other cultures and religions? Nope.

Money.

[Debaser11]

Blond women (in my own experience) seem to really have a thing for the Turks and other Middle Eastern guys. I wonder if it's because they like the fact that these men are drawn to their unique beauty in the first place like flies on shit? (Not that your friend is shit.)

[San Galgano]

Blond women (in my own experience) seem to really have a thing for the Turks and other Middle Eastern guys. I wonder if it's because they like the fact that these men are drawn to their unique beauty in the first place like flies on shit? (Not that your friend is shit.)

I think that european men are less inclined to fund and give money to women than rich middleasterners do.

If women only searched for "swarthy" mediterranoids(not ugly as turks and with no middleastern features also)they could choose them in some european mediterranean countries as well.

[Debaser11]

Yeah. Even the girl I'm thinking of in particular is not settling down with one. So when push comes to shove, I guess it's just a role play many of them prefer not to live out in the long run. I have my fingers crossed there anyways. Especially when I look at Western Europe's demographics.

[Austin]

From what I've seen money is the key denominator in whether a Western woman will marry a non-Western man. Not too many instances of European women marrying poor non-Europeans, the wealth and status that comes with it is the only thing that "clears" them from what I can tell based off what I've seen of interracial couples.

Not that European men wouldn't do the same but the reality is there aren't tons of wealthy non-European women in the West compared to males.

[la bombe]

How about a little male racial tragedy ;) :p

Nicolas Cage and his wife/son
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_03/NicholasCageAP_468x668.jpg
http://www.wikinoticia.com/images/blogcorazon/blogcorazon.com.files.2010.03.nicolas-cage-kal-el.jpg
http://today.ccopinion.com/images/2006/2006-01-kal-el1.jpg

Garcelle Beauvis-Nilon and her husband/kids
http://manifestopart2.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/garcelle.jpg
http://www.blackcelebkids.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/garcelletwinshereos.jpg

Michael Fassbender and his ex-girlfriend
http://www.showbiz.ie/photos/2009-02-michael-fassbender--leasi-andrews.jpg

She's also has a kid with producer Lawrence Bender
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/kill_bill__vol__2/_group_photos/lawrence_bender58.jpg
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/05/10/amd_bender.jpg

Matthew McConaughey and Camilla Alves
http://lifeandgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/matthew-mcconaughey-camila-alves-baby.jpg
http://www.thefablife.com/files/2009/04/ghosts.jpg
http://movies.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/matthew-mcconaughey-camilla-alves.jpg

Johnathan Rhys Meyers and his girlfriend
http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2006/04/reena_hammer/reena-hammer02.jpg

Josh Holloway and his wife
http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/6/6/c/0/00.jpg
http://img.atpictures.com/images2/joshh/JoshHolloway_J__McCart_14010876.jpg

Naomi Campbell and Russian rich dude
http://api.ning.com/files/fUwhfYADQxPXs3gOzxbjXSQb80qiYwuHVSrnNcW3lNHMV4qmjS chKYCihZwx91E4HsYVWcD8NzSTdfpX7flVwTPHN6-VPxAZ/campbell.jpg

[Debaser11]

The males are worse when it comes to this nonsense, no doubt. But a female loss hurts the "volk" much more.

[Eldritch]

:rolleyes2:

http://photos3.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/b/5/2/9/highres_1786377.jpeg

http://rickyday.net/blog/David-Bowie-and-Iman--C10111244.jpeg


Not too many instances of European women marrying poor non-Europeans, the wealth and status that comes with it is the only thing that "clears" them from what I can tell based off what I've seen of interracial couples.


That may be the case in America, but not necessarily in Europe. I really think we should retire the "nanny state" moniker in favour of "surrogate husband" ---> European single men working and paying taxes, so chavette welfare queens can stay at home and push out biracial babies at a rate of one per year.

[Austin]

:


That may be the case in America, but not necessarily in Europe. I really think we should retire the "nanny state" moniker in favour of "surrogate husband" ---> European single men working and paying taxes, so chavette welfare queens can stay at home and push out biracial babies at a rate of one per year.

Yes I agree the U.S. is more wealth based in terms of relationships I think. Also we being more religious has much to do with it, say what you want about religion and equality, religion in the U.S. is a major factor in the low levels of white interracial marriages, which is largely why I very much enjoy and am keen for Americans to stay religious compared to secular Europe.

[Æscwyn]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radioscotland/karen_cyberman.jpg

Disgusting!

[poiuytrewq0987]

:rolleyes2:

http://rickyday.net/blog/David-Bowie-and-Iman--C10111244.jpeg



That may be the case in America, but not necessarily in Europe. I really think we should retire the "nanny state" moniker in favour of "surrogate husband" ---> European single men working and paying taxes, so chavette welfare queens can stay at home and push out biracial babies at a rate of one per year.

Is that Iman the Somalian? :D I'm Somalian (according to forum members here) too so I guess it's alright for me to date Somalian women!

[Debaser11]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radioscotland/karen_cyberman.jpg

Disgusting!

LOL! That one doesn't bother me as much for some reason. At least he's not a drunken Congoloid about to tag two Bulgarian chicks (and probably knock one up).

[Psychonaut]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radioscotland/karen_cyberman.jpg

Disgusting!

LOL!

Just say no to miscegenating with Cybermen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybermen)! :D

[Gamera]

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/sergegainsbourg-gal-sexy.jpg

Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin. Would you guys consider them "racially" incorrect? :D

That led to this:

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/cannes/cannes_film_festival_2001_photos/charlotte_gainsbourg/cannes.jpg

[Gamera]

a Peruvian case:

http://www.barcelonareview.com/12/jam_int.jpg

+

http://www.terra.com.pe/addon/img/8a1f6aesposap.jpg


=

http://www.faranduleaperu.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/las-hijas-de-jaime-bayly-camila-y-paola.jpg

[poiuytrewq0987]

http://img.poprosa.com/2009/04/heidi-klum-y-seal.jpg

http://www.saviodsilva.com/092/tiger-woods-elin-nordegren-5.jpg

:tsk:

Goes to show that you don't have to be pretty to get trophy wives, you only need money.

[Debaser11]

http://img.poprosa.com/2009/04/heidi-klum-y-seal.jpg

http://www.saviodsilva.com/092/tiger-woods-elin-nordegren-5.jpg

:tsk:

Goes to show that you don't have to be pretty to get trophy wives, you only need money.

His wife was/is soooo beautiful. My God, did she deserve better. Incidentally, she has some of the most beautiful hair I have ever seen.

[Matritensis]

:shakefist http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/starwars68.jpg


Disgusting too!

[Foxy]

Tell me that it's not true... Italian-Brazilian supermodel Isabeli Fontana stays with this Latino ?!?! :eek:

http://ego.globo.com/Gente/foto/0,,21037343-EXH,00.jpg

[Electronic God-Man]

Bowie!!! WHY??!?!?!


av2e

[la bombe]

Not only men get yellow fever, apparently :p

http://vnexpress.net/Files/Subject/3B/9F/C4/E4/nat-4.jpg
http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/original700/paradorn-srichaphan-natalie-glebova-2009-8-26-4-10-22.jpg
http://www.thailandtip.de/uploads/pics/paradorn-viagra.jpg
http://www.thaiphotoblogs.com/media/blogs/new/thaiweddingpic_2.jpg
http://livinggallery.oneindia.in/d/3966-2/natalie-glebova-paradorn.jpg

[Debaser11]

And it's not only European women who succumb to the Black Plague.

http://cm1.theinsider.com/thumbnail/595/547/cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/110/41/davefamskateboarding-1.jpg

[Aramis]

^

I love Chappelle's stan-up shows. He's the best.


Tell me that it's not true... Italian-Brazilian supermodel Isabeli Fontana stays with this Latino ?!?! :eek:

http://ego.globo.com/Gente/foto/0,,21037343-EXH,00.jpg

They seem happy,so?
Cultural and ethnic preservation isn't about keeping watch on every individual with the same ethnic backround as yours. Everyone has it's own life.

Rather fight the cause of disease, not symptoms.

[Debaser11]

^

I love Chappelle's stan-up shows. He's the best.



They seem happy,so?
Cultural and ethnic preservation isn't about keeping watch on every individual with the same ethnic backround as yours. Everyone has it's own life.

Rather fight the cause of disease, not symptoms.

I agree to a point, Aramis. But the point of the thread is sort of documenting the decline, no? I mean, these are pop culture figures and many times their behavior (for better or worse) reflect what is culturally acceptable in all too many instances.

Two people who appear happy in a photo means precious little. I'm sure I can pull up some photos where O.J. Simpson and Nicole Brown look very happy together. That guy looks like a thug. And that Italian model is "punching" way below her weight so to speak. He is so obviously carp when she could easily get a fillet. Yet the media glorifies thugs like him so it's less apparent how low on the pecking order someone like him should be. That's what's disheartening.

[Tony]

And it's not only European women who succumb to the Black Plague.

http://cm1.theinsider.com/thumbnail/595/547/cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/110/41/davefamskateboarding-1.jpg
That's confirm my theory according to wich modern Filipinos descend from the mixing of negritos and asians.

By the way they're so utterly ugly and weird , repellent.

Hi La Bombe...


http://www.virginmedia.com/images/sergegainsbourg-gal-sexy.jpg

Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin. Would you guys consider them "racially" incorrect? :D

That led to this:

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/cannes/cannes_film_festival_2001_photos/charlotte_gainsbourg/cannes.jpg

:mad: :rolleyes2:

Jane Birkin has ruined her lineage by mixing with that ugly semitoid troll.

[la bombe]

And that Italian model is "punching" way below her weight so to speak. He is so obviously carp when she could easily get a fillet. Yet the media glorifies thugs like him so it's less apparent how low on the pecking order someone like him should be. That's what's disheartening.

She's not Italian, she's Brazilian, and so is her boyfriend.

[Debaser11]

She's not Italian, she's Brazilian, and so is her boyfriend.

Uh, right. Where do you think those light-skinned people in Brazil come from? She's Italian (or at least partly Italian). She is, of course, a Brazilian national. But so is Gisele Bundchen. Yet she comes from German blood, which is sort of the point in a thread that's dealing with race.

And while I realize German and Italian are also nationalities, those labels USUALLY tell us much more about the racial composition of someone than labels like "American" or "Brazilian."

Yeah they're both Brazilian. But me and Tyra Banks are both "American." Big deal.

[Megrez]

They seem happy,so?
Cultural and ethnic preservation isn't about keeping watch on every individual with the same ethnic backround as yours. Everyone has it's own life.

Rather fight the cause of disease, not symptoms.
It's not happy when mobs of mongrel spawns outcome from such unions. It's even worse when such damned progenies come from a wealthy background like famous rich people. Isabeli is just a breeder anyway, she has been married twice and had one son from each union, luckily enough these two unions were to white and aesthetically fit (I love when I have a chance to use the term aesthetic and derivates :p) men, I just hope she quits the current union before any outcome.

[Pallantides]

An aboriginal Norwegian woman who is dating a depigmented Arabid.:(
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00981/silje___gaute_981229a.jpg
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00768/IKKE_BRUK_DETTE_BIL_768949i.jpg

[ss21]

Jane Birkin has ruined her lineage by mixing with that ugly semitoid troll.

Hi,

Well, their daughter looks really white, doesn't she?

[Gamera]

That's confirm my theory according to wich modern Filipinos descend from the mixing of negritos and asians.

By the way they're so utterly ugly and weird , repellent.

...

Jane Birkin has ruined her lineage by mixing with that ugly semitoid troll.

And you must extremely handsome huh? :D

Anyway... I don't think Charlotte Gainsbourg is ugly, for example.


Hi,

Well, their daughter looks really white, doesn't she?

She does, yes. And some people might consider her father, Serge Gainsbourg, as "white" as well.

[Thor]

Eww watching this thread makes me sick.

[Guapo]

An aboriginal Norwegian woman who is dating a depigmented Arabid.:(
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00981/silje___gaute_981229a.jpg


:lmao::thumb001:

[Pallantides]

:lmao::thumb001:

I have a duty to protect non-mideastern traits in Norwegians.:)

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=261119&postcount=61
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=261181&postcount=62



Amazing! You are the only person out of 76 participants of the project who has zero Middle Eastern influence! Even Fins have more of it.

[Absinthe]

This is an Arabid? Seriously? :icon_ask: He looks stereotypical Nordid to me.....

[Foxy]

She's not Italian, she's Brazilian, and so is her boyfriend.

She has born of two Italian immigrants, speaks Italian and has also worked in Milan, so I think that the only thing of Brazilian that she has is the citizenship and the birth place. His bf comes from an other planet.

[Aramis]

I agree to a point, Aramis. But the point of the thread is sort of documenting the decline, no?


Agreed


I mean, these are pop culture figures and many times their behavior (for better or worse) reflect what is culturally acceptable in all too many instances.

That's our reality, indeed. However, I don't want to be bothered by thoughts on pop culture or the behavioristic patterns of its active participants.

If my children are to become ethnically consciousness, it won't be by watching racially (in)correct couples on MTV, but through the help of logics, common sense and their parents.


Two people who appear happy in a photo means precious little. I'm sure I can pull up some photos where O.J. Simpson and Nicole Brown look very happy together. That guy looks like a thug. And that Italian model is "punching" way below her weight so to speak. He is so obviously carp when she could easily get a fillet. Yet the media glorifies thugs like him so it's less apparent how low on the pecking order someone like him should be. That's what's disheartening.

Calling them "happy" may have be an exaggeration, yet I did it on purpose to put a sharp contrast on this line of RomanQueen I consider nonessential and deprived of reality (from my perspective) as well :


Tell me that it's not true...

There's nothing to arguee for me here. I simply can't respect if one person concerns itself with anothers ones life, even if it's no general rule in their behavior, but an isolated case instead.


It's not happy when mobs of mongrel spawns outcome from such unions

If I am to be concerned on ethnic (Croatian) preservation, I wouldn't want to see hordes of "mongrel spanws" (individual cases, as exceptions, never hurt) from such unions, and not only multiracial but multiethnic as well (e.g. Croatians with Danes).

[Psychonaut]

An aboriginal Norwegian woman who is dating a depigmented Arabid.:(
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00981/silje___gaute_981229a.jpg
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00768/IKKE_BRUK_DETTE_BIL_768949i.jpg

http://www.epicallyfunnypictures.com/FunnyPictures/ISeeWhatYouDidThere/we-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

[Tony]

And you must extremely handsome huh? :D

Why you are interested , are you a fag?


Anyway... I don't think Charlotte Gainsbourg is ugly, for example.

She's ugly for anyone with a bit of taste for women , she reminds me of those ugly postmodernist portraits.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_knHmw4EPfhE/SVry5ISxQMI/AAAAAAAAAJA/JpKfiAddW5M/s400/PechsteinSelfPortraitDeath1920.jpg



She does, yes. And some people might consider her father, Serge Gainsbourg, as "white" as well.
Gainsbourg is jew , beside a toad , too bad a true European beautiful woman like Jane Birkin fell in love with him , a self hating white woman , neither the first nor the last :rolleyes2:

[Matritensis]

Gainsbourg is jew , beside a toad , too bad a true European beautiful woman like Jane Birkin fell in love with him , a self hating white woman , neither the first nor the last :rolleyes2:

Do you mean that she would have been done better choosing you? :icon_cheesygrin:

[Debaser11]

There's nothing to arguee for me here. I simply can't respect if one person concerns itself with anothers ones life, even if it's no general rule in their behavior, but an isolated case instead.


Obviously there are various levels of concern that range from a casual expression of disapproval to intense (inappropriate) meddling. But if one considers themselves a nationalist (or even has nationalist sentiments) I find such a stance about relationships to be a bit contradictory given the interest that a nation has to preserve its people.

[Rhobot]

His wife was/is soooo beautiful. My God, did she deserve better. Incidentally, she has some of the most beautiful hair I have ever seen.

Dunno why he cheated on her so much (mostly with women who were far less attractive). :confused:

[Guapo]

Dunno why he cheated on her so much (mostly with women who were far less attractive). :confused:

Because men get bored with the same pussy over and over, no matter what she looks like.

[Curtis24]

Some men do, not all men.. unfortunately, it seems more often than not women are attracted to the men who are inclined to cheat.

and yeah, I recently saw Elin on the cover of some magazine, she is much more beautiful than I realized.

[Debaser11]

Because men get bored with the same pussy over and over, no matter what she looks like.

Yeah, but not all men are inclined to cheat because they can't get off the way they'd like, buddy. Some men actually still *LOVE* their wives and vice versa. Believe it or not, there are people who marry for reasons other than expedient access to "pussy.":rolleyes2:

[Guapo]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/060914/154616__grease_l.jpg

[Tandara]

All couples where both partners are of the same race are racially incorrect. Race mixing is great and should be encouraged.

[Austin]

And it's not only European women who succumb to the Black Plague.

http://cm1.theinsider.com/thumbnail/595/547/cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/110/41/davefamskateboarding-1.jpg

those kids....omg I'd have that face also if my boys looked like that

[Gamera]

http://www.peru.com/noticias/idocs/2006/10/27/Imagen249956.jpg

Peruvian former president Alejandro Toledo, and his wife, Eliane Karp. They are young in this picture.

[Debaser11]

^Homeboy looks like he got hit in the face with a shovel a few times.

[Gamera]

http://www.peru.com/noticias/idocs/2006/10/27/Imagen249956.jpg

Peruvian former president Alejandro Toledo, and his wife, Eliane Karp. They are young in this picture.

I forgot, their daughter:

http://www.peru.com/elecciones2001/coberturas_especiales/20010408/images/chantal.jpg

[Megrez]

http://www.gotravel24.com/files/2009/City%20Breaks/CapeTown/OneOnly/RobertDeNiro.jpg

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/12/xin_262010612083579681592.jpg

[Debaser11]

At least Eastwood had some white children earlier in his life, right? I don't understand DeNiro's deal. He has one weird fetish for Negroes.

[Lulletje Rozewater]

At least Eastwood had some white children earlier in his life, right? I don't understand DeNiro's deal. He has one weird fetish for Negroes.

I would suggest that at their ages no white woman would look at them.

[Murphy]

Eastwood can fancy whomever he damn well pleases! The likes of us are not to criticise him. Or he'll pile our corpses ten-feet high.

[Korbis]

I would suggest that at their ages no white woman would look at them.



Unless he´s running out of money I dont see why he couldn´t get at least any nice middle class white pussy in a hotel bar.

But I bet both Eastwood and de Niro are so tired of screw white women in any way possible that now they need some exotic incentive in their bed to kill the boredom of their last years and feel again the excitement they left in their youth.

[Lulletje Rozewater]

Eastwood can fancy whomever he damn well pleases! The likes of us are not to criticise him. Or he'll pile our corpses ten-feet high.

:D:D:D
http://www.cookiecartoons.nl/tool_userfiles/image/clint.jpg

[Eldritch]

I would suggest that at their ages no white woman would look at them.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Fm8jYsLBcgg/RcwMMf3tubI/AAAAAAAAAAM/LSyANl-8pdw/s320/Anna+Nicole+Smith+and+Howard+Marshall.jpeg

I can almost see the thought bubble with :Cash: :Cash: floating above her head.

[Lulletje Rozewater]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Fm8jYsLBcgg/RcwMMf3tubI/AAAAAAAAAAM/LSyANl-8pdw/s320/Anna+Nicole+Smith+and+Howard+Marshall.jpeg

I can almost see the thought bubble with :Cash: :Cash: floating above her head.

Good combination,her hand and his face are the new dracula

[Debaser11]

Now they're both together again. Reunited in the afterlife. Ain't love grand?

[Guapo]

Off topic but this is just wrong, she's too pretty for him. He must have a really big schlong or smthing but all Serbs do.

http://english.blic.rs/_customfiles/Image/slike/2009/05_maj/29/zabava/jaric-lima-x2.jpg

[jerney]

Off topic but this is just wrong, she's too pretty for him. He must have a really big schlong or smthing but all Serbs do.

http://english.blic.rs/_customfiles/Image/slike/2009/05_maj/29/zabava/jaric-lima-x2.jpg

http://www.etftrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/currency.jpg

[Arne]

http://www.n24.de/media/_fotos/1politik/2008_2/januar_1/080127/wahl_ns/Roesler_NS-ddp-fs.jpg

[Foxy]

He Italian, she Moroccan

http://www.studiobergonzini.com/immagini/big/2010311144157524a0ofnk55uhkzckvajllocy45.jpg

[poiuytrewq0987]

He Italian, she Moroccan

http://www.studiobergonzini.com/immagini/big/2010311144157524a0ofnk55uhkzckvajllocy45.jpg

Judging from the photo, she could pass for Southern Italian. :coffee:

[San Galgano]

Judging from the photo, she could pass for Southern Italian. :coffee:

She could pass from everywhere south of Alps.

http://blog.ilmatemagico.com/images-ilblogsonoio-3/Marwa-Klebi-valentino-rossi-fidanzata-02.jpg

http://statik.tuttogratis.it/motori/fotogallery/600X428/41603/valentino-rossi-ai-caraibi-con-marwa.jpg