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Lisa
10-15-2011, 07:50 PM
A good way to see alot of russian phenotypes is to take a look at the "Russian Brides" website.

It is common to detect white russians with ugric, tatar and asian influence. In the western part of Russia and Ukraine they're mostly pure slavs with less admixture.

In Eastern part of country people from the Western part of Russia, in addition to the indigenous tribes (they all live and today). Ethnic Russians not mixed with Asians or very little mixing, no more than Portuguese with Africans.

On "Russian Brides" not all are ethnic Russians. Russia very multiethnic country.

Lisa
10-15-2011, 08:18 PM
Russians http://s017.radikal.ru/i431/1110/63/4a3929a7a834.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i439/1110/87/6887a7bd8fc0.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i425/1110/70/a4d593b751ef.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i415/1110/0d/dcfe3e970966.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i409/1110/1a/3230e7b945e8.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s50.radikal.ru/i127/1110/3c/5cfef0293956.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i406/1110/ec/e36e89964b96.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://i020.radikal.ru/1110/98/bc74979e3f0b.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i407/1110/90/09f269288ecb.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i439/1110/91/2acc5708b439.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i415/1110/fd/a6b3c91cb0fd.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s51.radikal.ru/i133/1110/38/81b950cc0db8.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i409/1110/c6/78d8c6ae7c2c.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Onychodus
10-16-2011, 03:27 PM
Russian hero

http://www.pechora-portal.ru/biblio/other_people/im/kosmodemyanskaya.jpg

Austrvegr
10-16-2011, 03:37 PM
Russian hero


Soviet hero who burnt houses of Russian peasants so that they freeze to death.

qwerty7
10-16-2011, 04:22 PM
Russian hero

http://www.pechora-portal.ru/biblio/other_people/im/kosmodemyanskaya.jpg

mongoloid:thumb001:

Mordid
10-16-2011, 04:23 PM
mongoloid:thumb001:

Typical Russian.

Artek
10-16-2011, 04:59 PM
Typical Russian.

LOL!! DARK HAIRED, COULDN'T BE RUSSIAN !!11!1!1oneoneone

WHERE DO YOU SEE CHERRYPICKING?! I DONT SEE ANY.
RUSSIANS ARE LIGHT HAIRED, WITHOUT AN EXCEPTION

P.S. And I'm fagg0t like Nero qwerty7

Hess
10-16-2011, 05:01 PM
LOL!! DARK HAIRED, COULDN'T BE RUSSIAN !!11!1!1oneoneone

Don't you know Dark haired Russians are just Nazi propaganda?

Artek
10-16-2011, 05:04 PM
don't you know dark haired russians are just nazi propaganda?
they are not russian. They are mongoloid or even worse, polish.

BTW. Do you know what is the worst insult in Russia?
- "you are dark-haired". It's a synonym of a swarthy immigrant from Poland.

Mordid
10-16-2011, 05:13 PM
they are not russian. They are mongoloid or even worse, polish.

How can we be mongoloid when we have a lot of Germanic admixture? Surely, we must be superior folk.

Artek
10-16-2011, 05:16 PM
How can we be mongoloid when we have a lot of Germanic admixture? Surely, we must be superior folk.

Russians are of Varangian ancestry, so they're all blonde and germanic by genes.
Only the slavic untersprache doesn't fit there.

Olika
10-16-2011, 05:18 PM
LOL!! DARK HAIRED, COULDN'T BE RUSSIAN !!11!1!1oneoneone

WHERE DO YOU SEE CHERRYPICKING?! I DONT SEE ANY.
RUSSIANS ARE LIGHT HAIRED, WITHOUT AN EXCEPTION

P.S. And I'm fagg0t like Nero qwerty7
could!my real hair color is dark i Russian!!!polish trolls scat hereof!

Mordid
10-16-2011, 05:19 PM
Russians are of Varangian ancestry, so they're all blonde and germanic by genes.
Only the slavic untersprache doesn't fit there.

Unter-what? Man, you on high?
I spoke to my friend about posting a pictures of her because she is Russian and she said she dont mind.

Her:
http://oybay.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/princess_viktoria_russkie.jpg

Mordid
10-16-2011, 05:20 PM
could!my real hair color is dark i Russian!!!polish trolls scat hereof!

Then, you cannot be real Russian!!!!

research_centre
10-16-2011, 05:20 PM
How can we be mongoloid when we have a lot of Germanic admixture? Surely, we must be superior folk.

Surely.

Olika
10-16-2011, 05:28 PM
Then, you cannot be real Russian!!!!
what? :D i know i Russian! russian have not only white hair but dark hair!

Onychodus
10-16-2011, 05:29 PM
why there is allergic reaction on posting dark hairied slavs and latins?

Mordid
10-16-2011, 05:30 PM
what? :D i know i Russian! russian have not only white hair but dark hair!

According to Nero, you can't be Russian because your hair is dark, so therefore you must be Pole. :(

Olika
10-16-2011, 05:35 PM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16462&stc=1&d=1318786412http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16463&stc=1&d=1318786412http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16464&stc=1&d=1318786412http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16465&stc=1&d=1318786412http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16466&stc=1&d=1318786412http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16468&stc=1&d=1318786545

Olika
10-16-2011, 05:43 PM
According to Nero, you can't be Russian because your hair is dark, so therefore you must be Pole. :(
Modrid you have problem with eyes...I'm very beautiful so I cannot be a Pole ;) I'M RUSSIAN AND I'M PROUD!!!

Mordid
10-16-2011, 05:46 PM
Modrid you have problem with eyes...I'm very beautiful so I cannot be a Pole ;) I'M RUSSIAN AND I'M PROUD!!!

Ulgy = Pole? :laugh:

beaver
10-16-2011, 05:58 PM
Soviet hero who burnt houses of Russian peasants so that they freeze to death.

So, that German officiers and soldiers live under -35 Celcium (and not in the warm houses) in the most critical moment of the German invasion (Moscow was very close). It was rather bad idea but I still cannot understand your position. Could you please to clear up it? And first of all what the hell you allowed to yourself to tell at least something against Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya.

beaver
10-16-2011, 06:05 PM
modrid you have problem with eyes...i'm very beautiful so i cannot be a pole i'm russian and i'm proud!!!
Олика, любой русский знает: "нет на свете царицы краше польской девицы". Пушкин сказал :)

ps, меня забавляет, что камрады стараются как-то насчет русских, но практически никто эту ветку не читает, только Hess (рос в детстве в Москве) и Mordid (он поляк, и ему сам Бог велел разобраться).

Hess
10-16-2011, 06:13 PM
Dark haired and brown eyed Russians only exist in bed time stories told to scare little children. "you better behave or your hair will get dark and you'll turn into
a churka"

qwerty7
10-16-2011, 06:32 PM
Typical Russian.

quite possibly Polish roots:thumb001:

Mordid
10-16-2011, 06:34 PM
quite possibly Polish roots:thumb001:

His Polish root is Russian.

Olika
10-16-2011, 06:37 PM
Олика, любой русский знает: "нет на свете царицы краше польской девицы". Пушкин сказал :)

ps, меня забавляет, что камрады стараются как-то насчет русских, но практически никто эту ветку не читает, только hess (рос в детстве в Москве) и mordid (он поляк, и ему сам Бог велел разобраться).
по выложенным фоткам модрида я бы не сказала.ну а если почитать цитаты известных писателей,людей о русских всегда говорят,что мы самые красивые в мире ;)я живу в Германии и была в Польше,конечно они симпатичные люди..даже есть поляки которые похожи на русских,но они не отличаются для меня от тех же чехов,словаков и т.п. и я считаю(вообще я об этом слышу очень часто) что самые красивые это русские и украинки.а так я ему это написала,чтобы подразнить он надоел писать всякую ерунду.

qwerty7
10-16-2011, 06:38 PM
His Polish root is Russian.

Proof or dick.
prove that it is - a typical Russian

beaver
10-16-2011, 06:40 PM
ps, меня забавляет, что камрады стараются как-то насчет русских, но практически никто эту ветку не читает, только Hess (рос в детстве в Москве) и Mordid (он поляк, и ему сам Бог велел разобраться).

translation for camrades that dont speak Russian: its funny to me that camrades are trying to speak something about Russians, but nobody really read the "Russian" thread, only Hess (hes chieldhood was in Moscow) and Mordid (hes a Pole, its strong point). :)

Humanophage
10-16-2011, 06:44 PM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/GeneticPigm.jpg

(The smaller the number, the less the disposition towards pigmentation - based on the most notable markers, at least)
Lithuania 20,52%
Belarus 20,83%
Mordvinians 22,22%
Finland 23,00%
Norway 24,24%
UK 26,26%
Sweden 27,08%
Kent 28,12%
Ireland 28,89%
Vologda 29,33%
Russia 29,57%
Poland 30,77%
Germany 33,33%
Hungary 36,11%
Cornwall 36,46%
France 37,75%
Ukraine 38,10%
Bulgaria 42,31%
North Italy 42,71%
Chuvash 44,12%
Romania 45,10%
North Ossetia 53,57%
Georgia 55,83%
Central Italy 56,67%
Spain 59,65%
South Italy 60,42%
Chechnia 60,83%
Cyprus 62,50%
Armenia 62,50%
Turkey 66,00%

hajduk
10-16-2011, 06:49 PM
My contribution to the thread
Two russian girls I met this summer on some youth camp
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/298921_106010676175332_100002992016434_47598_97522 5466_n.jpg
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/293964_186122664798283_100002016526381_414787_1624 431265_n.jpg

Waidewut
10-16-2011, 06:50 PM
Modrid you have problem with eyes...I'm very beautiful so I cannot be a Pole ;) I'M RUSSIAN AND I'M PROUD!!!

:D Best post ever

hajduk
10-16-2011, 06:50 PM
They easily could be from Bulgaria. Are they atypical

Onychodus
10-16-2011, 06:53 PM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/GeneticPigm.jpg

(The smaller the number, the less the disposition towards pigmentation - based on the most notable markers, at least)
Lithuania 20,52%
Belarus 20,83%
Mordvinians 22,22%
Finland 23,00%
Norway 24,24%
UK 26,26%
Sweden 27,08%
Kent 28,12%
Ireland 28,89%
Vologda 29,33%
Russia 29,57%
Poland 30,77%
Germany 33,33%
Hungary 36,11%
Cornwall 36,46%
France 37,75%
Ukraine 38,10%
Bulgaria 42,31%
North Italy 42,71%
Chuvash 44,12%
Romania 45,10%
North Ossetia 53,57%
Georgia 55,83%
Central Italy 56,67%
Spain 59,65%
South Italy 60,42%
Chechnia 60,83%
Cyprus 62,50%
Armenia 62,50%
Turkey 66,00%

according to this diagramm south and east russians are most dark?

qwerty7
10-16-2011, 07:03 PM
according to this diagramm south and east russians are most dark?

of course. in the east of Russia live niggas.

but seriously, if.

Northern Russia,- is a Baltic-nordid mostly.
Center of Russia, - are genetically and anthropologically is a copy of Belarus.
South of Russia,- is a copy of the Ukraine.

East of Russia-, is, all these listed types of combined + eastBalt(asiatic)

qwerty7
10-16-2011, 07:05 PM
These people could pass look as a typical Polish?
http://staskulesh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/nz_rwc_russian_national_rugby_team_rotorua_IMG_172 2.jpg

Mordid
10-16-2011, 07:19 PM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/GeneticPigm.jpg

(The smaller the number, the less the disposition towards pigmentation - based on the most notable markers, at least)
Lithuania 20,52%
Belarus 20,83%
Mordvinians 22,22%
Finland 23,00%
Norway 24,24%
UK 26,26%
Sweden 27,08%
Kent 28,12%
Ireland 28,89%
Vologda 29,33%
Russia 29,57%
Poland 30,77%
Germany 33,33%
Hungary 36,11%
Cornwall 36,46%
France 37,75%
Ukraine 38,10%
Bulgaria 42,31%
North Italy 42,71%
Chuvash 44,12%
Romania 45,10%
North Ossetia 53,57%
Georgia 55,83%
Central Italy 56,67%
Spain 59,65%
South Italy 60,42%
Chechnia 60,83%
Cyprus 62,50%
Armenia 62,50%
Turkey 66,00%

No offence, but that's the worst pigmentation map I've ever seen.


Proof or dick.
prove that it is - a typical Russian
His name is Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya which is Russian name, so he wasn't Polish.

Onychodus
10-16-2011, 07:31 PM
Russian with Polish roots
http://www.rollingstone.ru/media/pic/aihdr/ar/vyacheslav_petkun_336.jpg

Mordid
10-16-2011, 07:34 PM
Russian with Polish roots
http://www.rollingstone.ru/media/pic/aihdr/ar/vyacheslav_petkun_336.jpg

His Russianess is so obvious. ;)

Humanophage
10-16-2011, 07:56 PM
according to this diagramm south and east russians are most dark?
No, why? I think you are confusing them with Chuvashes in the East (slightly to the east of Erzya Mordvins), and with Ossetians and Chechens in the south. The tested populations are marked with dots, it has no south and east Russians, only North Russians and non-North Russians.


No offence, but that's the worst pigmentation map I've ever seen.
Why? It largely coincides with Coon's map, only it is based on genetics rather than subjective interpretation of what is light and what is dark.

Mordid
10-16-2011, 08:01 PM
Nice, keep going.

beaver
10-16-2011, 08:02 PM
Soviet hero who burnt houses of Russian peasants so that they freeze to death.

so, what about this claim, Austrvegr?

Humanophage
10-16-2011, 08:18 PM
First of all, Coon was the worst anthropologist who had no experience at all and second of all, I am as an expert as him. I know very well on Polish pigmentation and in fact, average Polish people are much ligher than the average English, at least when I was in UK. :shrug:
Coon's data are based on statistics rather than personal perception, it's just a visualisation of numbers. He also had 15 years of field work prior to publishing Races of Europe, and is probably the most decorated physical anthropologist of all.

My mother thinks Finns tend to look like Mannerheim and Swedes are mostly Baltid, even though she has been to both Finland and Sweden. Claims grounded only in personal observations are hardly authoritative.

Hess
10-16-2011, 09:10 PM
по выложенным фоткам модрида я бы не сказала.ну а если почитать цитаты известных писателей,людей о русских всегда говорят,что мы самые красивые в мире ;)я живу в Германии и была в Польше,конечно они симпатичные люди..даже есть поляки которые похожи на русских,но они не отличаются для меня от тех же чехов,словаков и т.п. и я считаю(вообще я об этом слышу очень часто) что самые красивые это русские и украинки.а так я ему это написала,чтобы подразнить он надоел писать всякую ерунду.

It is a commonly accepted that women from most Eastern European countries are attractive (not just Russians).

Also keep in mind that beauty is subjective- what is attractive to a Russian may not necessarily be attractive for a German.

Humanophage
10-16-2011, 10:50 PM
LOL!! DARK HAIRED, COULDN'T BE RUSSIAN !!11!1!1oneoneone

WHERE DO YOU SEE CHERRYPICKING?! I DONT SEE ANY.
RUSSIANS ARE LIGHT HAIRED, WITHOUT AN EXCEPTION

P.S. And I'm fagg0t like Nero qwerty7
Another photo of the same person, less heavily retouched:
http://andreygoncharov.users.photofile.ru/photo/andreygoncharov/150310068/large/159763096.jpg

And her class:
http://www.1941-1945-2010.ru/000.jpg

Looks pretty light to me, for the most part; one can see that even on a monochrome photograph.

Hess
10-16-2011, 11:43 PM
Another photo of the same person, less heavily retouched:
http://andreygoncharov.users.photofile.ru/photo/andreygoncharov/150310068/large/159763096.jpg

And her class:
http://www.1941-1945-2010.ru/000.jpg

Looks pretty light to me, for the most part; one can see that even on a monochrome photograph.

Children darken with age.

Austrvegr
10-17-2011, 07:28 AM
So, that German officiers and soldiers live under -35 Celcium (and not in the warm houses)

So that Russian peasants with their children live (and die) under -35 Celsius. Unlike you, they seem not to have liked the idea very much, since they caught your commie hero and handed her over to Germans.

d3cimat3d
10-17-2011, 07:58 AM
Why? It largely coincides with Coon's map, only it is based on genetics rather than subjective interpretation of what is light and what is dark.

But that map shows the Danube Delta region (Dobruja) to be as dark as Turkey - just like Coons map, so whoever made it (Polako?) is using Coons map to fill in the gaps where there are no dots.

Svartálfar
10-17-2011, 08:43 AM
Unter-what? Man, you on high?
I spoke to my friend about posting a pictures of her because she is Russian and she said she dont mind.

Her:
http://oybay.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/princess_viktoria_russkie.jpg

I see mongoloid admixture. :eek:

beaver
10-17-2011, 08:52 AM
So that Russian peasants with their children live (and die) under -35 Celsius. Unlike you, they seem not to have liked the idea very much, since they caught your commie hero and handed her over to Germans.
I know all these facts but I dont blame neither these peasants nor Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya sent by some stupid bastards. If you blamed this shit I would only put "thank" in your post.

beaver
10-17-2011, 01:23 PM
Soviet hero who burnt houses of Russian peasants so that they freeze to death.

Советская героиня, которая поджигала дома русских крестьян, чтобы они замерзли до смерти.

This is your post, Austrvegr, to be more precise

Contra Mundum
10-17-2011, 01:59 PM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14407&stc=1&d=1314969845
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14401&stc=1&d=1314969672
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14403&stc=1&d=1314969672
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14402&stc=1&d=1314969672http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14405&stc=1&d=1314969672http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14406&stc=1&d=1314969672
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14404&stc=1&d=1314969672
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14408&stc=1&d=1314969845
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14409&stc=1&d=1314969845
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14410&stc=1&d=1314969845http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14411&stc=1&d=1314969845http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14412&stc=1&d=1314969845


Those are the kind of Russians Hitler wouldn't have deported to Siberia.

beaver
10-17-2011, 02:18 PM
Those are the kind of Russians Hitler wouldn't have deported to Siberia.
Yeah, Germans would just kill them on the place (they were trying but this is too serious task)

Contra Mundum
10-17-2011, 02:23 PM
Yeah, Germans would just kill them on the place (they were trying but this is too serious task)

I disagree. Russians like those in the pictures were in far more danger under Stalin. They would be the elite of Hitler's Russia.

beaver
10-17-2011, 02:26 PM
They would be the elite of Hitler's Russia.
In the crematorium? Thanks

Contra Mundum
10-17-2011, 02:32 PM
In the crematorium? Thanks

I can tell your head has been filled with anti-Nazi propaganda and not surprising since Russia was dominated by Communism for so long. The arch enemy of National Socialism.

beaver
10-17-2011, 02:56 PM
I can tell your head has been filled with anti-Nazi propaganda and not surprising since Russia was dominated by Communism for so long. The arch enemy of National Socialism.
No problem, I'm a commy in this case :)

Onychodus
10-17-2011, 05:05 PM
They would be the elite of Hitler's Russia

they seemed even more dangerous enemies of Germany than non-aryan ones because of their noble aryan blood and organization abilities for resistance

arcticwolf
10-17-2011, 05:56 PM
The Russians I have met have been nice people both visually and personality, with few exceptions, just like anywhere else. They all have "Slavic soul" regardless of their hair or eye color, and that's all I need to know about them. They are OK in my book. Please take note that not all citizens of Poland are Slavic, and there is no way to determine the true identity of the posters. Slavic Poles do not hate their Russian brethren. Beautiful pictures btw. Kudos and love from this Slavic Pole.

Austrvegr
10-17-2011, 06:46 PM
Soviet hero who burnt houses of Russian peasants so that they freeze to death.

Ñîâåòñêàÿ ãåðîèíÿ, êîòîðàÿ ïîäæèãàëà äîìà ðóññêèõ êðåñòüÿí, ÷òîáû îíè çàìåðçëè äî ñìåðòè.

This is your post, Austrvegr, to be more precise

Yes, and what is your question?

Humanophage
10-17-2011, 09:54 PM
But that map shows the Danube Delta region (Dobruja) to be as dark as Turkey - just like Coons map, so whoever made it (Polako?) is using Coons map to fill in the gaps where there are no dots.
The map is based around the same template as their admixture maps. They only reflect the pigmentation of selected populations marked with dots. The gradient between these populations simply assumes a gradual transition. That creates the illusion that the map claims that e.g. south Russians are the intermediate between Russians and Ossetians, which isn't the case - the map doesn't deal with south Russians at all. Nor with Dobruja. Dobruja is darker there because Romanians show to be somewhat darker than Bulgarians and Ukrainians, so they pull the Turkish/Caucasian gradient in this direction.

I didn't make the map, but then it assumes that people comprehend that the data analysed only concerns the dots. I used the same data to compose the following map, which doesn't use gradients:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/GeneticPigmentationDots.jpg

Mordid
10-17-2011, 10:05 PM
....
You haven't been to Poland, so shut up. I think this map is much reasonable.
http://ariets.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/poland.jpg

Hess
10-17-2011, 10:08 PM
Those are the kind of Russians Hitler wouldn't have deported to Siberia.


Hitler considered Slavic culture to be degenerate and inferior, and he wanted Slavic lands to expand Germany- blue eyes and blond hair have absolutely nothing to do with it :rolleyes2:

research_centre
10-17-2011, 10:18 PM
Modrid you have problem with eyes...I'm very beautiful so I cannot be a Pole ;) I'M RUSSIAN AND I'M PROUD!!!

You are are just a tad bit delusional to me by that statement.

Humanophage
10-17-2011, 10:41 PM
You haven't been to Poland, so shut up. I think this map is much reasonable.
I don't see how my having been to Poland is relevant. Most people discussing the pigmentation of Russians here haven't been to Russia, and base their judgement off a few individuals of uncertain ancestry. But the only way to say this with any authority is to use researches, or at least polls.

Nor do I see what is it you dislike about the genetic map:
1) It is entirely unsubjective, because it measures the same SNPs across all populations. It makes no attempts to interpret colour*.
2) It is consistent with other autosomal DNA analyses (say, Dodecad (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=COCa89AJ&key=0ArAJcY18g2GadDUyeEtjNnBmY09EbnowN3M3UWRyNnc&hl=en_US&authkey=COCa89AJ#gid=0)) - i.e., Poles have high Med / West Asian elements in comparison to Belarusians or Finns.
3) There is no significant difference in pigmentation between Russians (29.57%) and Poles (30.77%), according to the genetic data.
4) You often say that you observe a stronger Dinarid element among Poles. Wouldn't it increase pigmentation?

* I don't know if the authors of your table measured e.g. Spaniards or Swedes using the same parameters. I suppose 'dark blond' means 'brown'.

Olika
10-18-2011, 06:54 AM
It is a commonly accepted that women from most Eastern European countries are attractive (not just Russians).

Also keep in mind that beauty is subjective- what is attractive to a Russian may not necessarily be attractive for a German.
for Russian I a simple girl for German I not a simple girl.and yes Eastern European countries Russian,Ukrainian and Belarusian.

Sahson
10-18-2011, 07:06 AM
I didn't make the map, but then it assumes that people comprehend that the data analysed only concerns the dots. I used the same data to compose the following map, which doesn't use gradients:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/GeneticPigmentationDots.jpg

how did they work out the percentage? what's mine?

Rs1667394: TT
Rs12913832: AG
Rs12896399: GG

d3cimat3d
10-18-2011, 07:46 AM
they seemed even more dangerous enemies of Germany than non-aryan ones because of their noble aryan blood and organization abilities for resistance

Lol. But Russians don't speak Iranic so how can they be "Aryan"? Unless you are using Hitlers twisted defintion of Aryan that applies to all blond/blue eyed people.

Russians only made up 40% of the population of the USSR.

By the way:


The Ossetians had the largest number of those, who were conferred on the title of "Hero of the Soviet Union" (the "Gold Star" of Hero of the Soviet Union was the highest military award granted in the country) with respect to the number of population among more than 100 nations of the USSR.

http://southosetia.chat.ru/en_warii.html

Contra Mundum
10-18-2011, 07:47 AM
Hitler's use of the word Aryan is highly exaggerated.

Olika
10-18-2011, 08:11 AM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16514&stc=1&d=1318925357http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16508&stc=1&d=1318925357http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16507&stc=1&d=1318925357http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16509&stc=1&d=1318925357http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16510&stc=1&d=1318925357http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16511&stc=1&d=1318925357http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16512&stc=1&d=1318925357http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16513&stc=1&d=1318925357

Contra Mundum
10-18-2011, 08:32 AM
There seems to be no shortage of beautiful Russian women.

Mordid
10-18-2011, 08:32 AM
Nor do I see what is it you dislike about the genetic map:
1) It is entirely unsubjective, because it measures the same SNPs across all populations. It makes no attempts to interpret colour*.
2) It is consistent with other autosomal DNA analyses (say, Dodecad (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=COCa89AJ&key=0ArAJcY18g2GadDUyeEtjNnBmY09EbnowN3M3UWRyNnc&hl=en_US&authkey=COCa89AJ#gid=0)) - i.e., Poles have high Med / West Asian elements in comparison to Belarusians or Finns.

Russians and Finns have high North Asian elements in comparison to Poles, so what's your point? Don't confuse genetic ancestry with racial types. They correlate, but are not necessarily the same.

Humanophage
10-18-2011, 08:55 AM
how did they work out the percentage? what's mine?

Rs1667394: TT
Rs12913832: AG
Rs12896399: GG
Like this (http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showpost.php?p=551234&postcount=5746).

They took the frequency of alleles responsible for pigmentation and simply counted the average for all individuals. T for Rs1667394 (hair/eyes), G for Rs12913832 (hair/eyes), T for Rs12896399 (hair).

Rs1667394: TT (100% depigmented)
Rs12913832: AG (50% depigmented)
Rs12896399: GG (0% depigmented)
So you'll be 1-(100+50+0)/3=50% on the map.

I've got:
Rs1667394: TT (100% depigmented)
Rs12913832: GG (100% depigmented)
Rs12896399: GT (50% depigmented)
So I'll be 1-(100+100+50)/3=17% on the map.

If we were a nation, we'd show as 33.5% on the map.


Russians and Finns have high North Asian elements in comparison to Poles, so what's your point? Don't confuse genetic ancestry with racial types. They correlate, but are not necessarily the same.
So it is logical to expect Russians and Finns to have a slightly higher frequency of Mongoliform traits than Poles, higher lactose intolerance, etc. If Poles have more in common with the more pigmented populations, it is reasonable to expect them to be somewhat more pigmented than Lithuanians. I'd like to repeat that Russians and Poles show the same frequency of alleles responsible for depigmentation.

Med admix and Dinarid elements are merely correlates. The thing is that the percentage of Poles carrying such alleles responsible for pigmentation is as shown on the map. Their influence on pigmentation is overwhelming. Say, Rs12913832 (http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Rs12913832): 97% people with GG have blue eyes, 80% people with AA have brown eyes.

All of this means the Poles are quite light, lighter than Germans. The result for Poles is generalised, while England has several regions. The Cornish are darker (36 vs. 30), the Kentish slightly lighter (28 vs 30). I'd imagine those are rural samples, so they don't have any odd admixtures that would probably be present in city Brits.

Sylvanus
10-18-2011, 09:05 AM
I think the original russians were the mix of few east-nordid indo-europeans and mostly baltid finn-ugrians, but nowadays the "echte" russians have caucasid/armenid and/or lappoid influence. For example the world Moscow (Moskva) was a finn-ugric toponym/hydronym.

Olika
10-18-2011, 09:21 AM
Ekaterina Vilkova actress
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16515&stc=1&d=1318928684
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16516&stc=1&d=1318928684
Elizaveta Boyarskaya actress
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16517&stc=1&d=1318929648http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16518&stc=1&d=1318929648

Humanophage
10-18-2011, 09:31 AM
I think the original russians were the mix of few east-nordid indo-europeans and mostly baltid finn-ugrians, but nowadays the "echte" russians have caucasid/armenid and/or lappoid influence. For example the world Moscow (Moskva) was a finn-ugric toponym/hydronym.
I don't think it's a secret to anybody that Russians, especially in the North, have significant Finno-Ugric admixtures. Moreover, the extreme northern Russians (e.g., Pinega (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinega)) have (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18179905) some N1b in addition to 'Finnic' N1c, which shows that they intermixed with North Asians to some degree. I am unaware of any Caucasian admixtures, however. Russian West Asian (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=COCa89AJ&key=0ArAJcY18g2GadDUyeEtjNnBmY09EbnowN3M3UWRyNnc&hl=en_US&authkey=COCa89AJ#gid=0) scores are very low, and their sources are probably Neolithic.

Mordid
10-18-2011, 11:52 AM
All of this means the Poles are quite light, lighter than Germans. The result for Poles is generalised, while England has several regions. The Cornish are darker (36 vs. 30), the Kentish slightly lighter (28 vs 30). I'd imagine those are rural samples, so they don't have any odd admixtures that would probably be present in city Brits.
I dont see the difference between Poles and English people when it's come to pigmentation, to be honest, except Poles have waterish blue eyes colour, dark blonde hair and somewhat darker skintone, whereas English people have dark blue eyes, light brown to dark brown hair and lighter skintone.


Strange, the ones in the US must be different then from the ones in the UK. There are many thousands of Poles in London. Most of them I've seen have had light eyes and fair hair. In fact, they are definitely more fair than the average English person.
So, I'm not the only one..:)

Austrvegr
10-18-2011, 12:30 PM
the world Moscow (Moskva) was a finn-ugric toponym/hydronym.

The word Moskva has a bona fide Balto-Slavic etymology.

Hess
10-18-2011, 12:52 PM
for Russian I a simple girl for German I not a simple girl.and yes Eastern European countries Russian,Ukrainian and Belarusian.

When I write you something in English, you can answer me in Russian.

I can read and speak it, I just can't write it ;)

heyaitsme
10-18-2011, 01:12 PM
..

Mordid
10-18-2011, 01:17 PM
..

Oh no, you didn't

heyaitsme
10-18-2011, 01:19 PM
Oh no, you didn't

what? lol

heyaitsme
10-18-2011, 01:24 PM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14404&stc=1&d=1314969672
*____*

Russians are a generally good looking people, let's leave it at that! Haha

Seems like a lot of blondes too.

Svartálfar
10-18-2011, 02:05 PM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/GeneticPigm.jpg



Comunist propaganda.

beaver
10-18-2011, 02:32 PM
Comunist propaganda.
or Coon's :D
http://s017.radikal.ru/i426/1110/2b/23c3e31c8b05.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
also compare with I1
http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/1110/4f/e78453ed426b.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

qwerty7
10-18-2011, 02:53 PM
Comunist propaganda.

hi my 14 year old American friend. I see your parents gave you a computer.
communists were internationalists and anti-racist, and it made ​​no sense to "whitewash" of the Russian.

Austrvegr
10-18-2011, 04:58 PM
Russian Heroes of WW2

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/kaminski-reinefarth.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/Wallonien-Stroynovsky-Arkady.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/Tchekhoff-George1.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/Stakhovich-Aleksey-Mikhaylovich-Hauptmann.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/Sobolev-Aleksandr.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/protopopov-sergei1.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/RONA_2.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/Smyslovsky_2.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/kulakov-ataman.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/Kononov_I_N.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/aiwn-13/roa3.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/aiwn-13/kaz6d7ba83adbdc.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/aiwn-13/kaz94e9cfe51831.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/aiwn-13/Cossack.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/aiwn-13/cossakgeorgiytg7.jpg

Basil
10-18-2011, 05:14 PM
Russian Heroes of WW2

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/kaminski-reinefarth.jpg


Kaminski?
Two mistakes:
1) Not a Russian
2) Not a hero, but rather the scum of the earth.

Gunslinger
10-18-2011, 05:58 PM
Photos of graduates (schools of Saratov)


Persons with non-russian last names are marked


http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/204/22144src.jpg

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5313/18139src.jpg

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4356/1844src.jpg

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7578/1843src.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3971/1842src.jpg

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3436/1741src.jpg

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9269/1740src.jpg

qwerty7
10-18-2011, 06:25 PM
Russian Heroes of WW2

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/kaminski-reinefarth.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/Wallonien-Stroynovsky-Arkady.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/Tchekhoff-George1.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/Stakhovich-Aleksey-Mikhaylovich-Hauptmann.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/Sobolev-Aleksandr.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/protopopov-sergei1.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/RONA_2.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/Smyslovsky_2.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/kulakov-ataman.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/aiwn10/rus/Kononov_I_N.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/aiwn-13/roa3.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/aiwn-13/kaz6d7ba83adbdc.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/aiwn-13/kaz94e9cfe51831.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/aiwn-13/Cossack.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/aiwn-13/cossakgeorgiytg7.jpg

should wear a German uniform, and has a completely different, "Western" look.

Austrvegr
10-18-2011, 06:43 PM
Kaminski?
Two mistakes:
1) Not a Russian
2) Not a hero, but rather the scum of the earth.

Two mistakes:
1) Russian
2) Hero

W. R.
10-18-2011, 07:09 PM
I heard Kaminski was half Polish (Belarusian?) and half German?

Leshy
10-18-2011, 07:18 PM
Russian Heroes of WW2
yes, nice looking russian, but they are not heroes. they are fucking traitors worthy of contempt.:(

Austrvegr
10-18-2011, 08:31 PM
I heard Kaminski was half Polish (Belarusian?) and half German?

Poles, Belarusians and Germans are Russians speaking Polish, Belarusian and German respectively.

Kaminski was born in Russia and brought up in Russian culture. He was a diehard Russian nationalist.

http://s017.radikal.ru/i417/1110/64/e06b779f6376.jpg

Austrvegr
10-18-2011, 08:32 PM
yes, nice looking russian, but they are not heroes. they are fucking traitors worthy of contempt.:(

Fucking traitors worthy of contempt are those who collaborated with Jewgashvili in the destruction of Russian people.

Hess
10-18-2011, 09:11 PM
Poles, Belarusians and Germans are Russians speaking Polish, Belarusian and German respectively.

Kaminski was born in Russia and brought up in Russian culture. He was a diehard Russian nationalist.

http://s017.radikal.ru/i417/1110/64/e06b779f6376.jpg

Would a South Italian or Pontic Greek born in Russia and brought up in Russian culture be considered Russian in your opinion? How about a Negro born and raised in Russia?

Austrvegr
10-18-2011, 09:41 PM
Would a South Italian or Pontic Greek born in Russia and brought up in Russian culture be considered Russian in your opinion? How about a Negro born and raised in Russia?

No, because unlike Poles or Belarusians they are not genetically and phenotypically indistinguishable from Russians.

Hess
10-19-2011, 12:45 AM
No, because unlike Poles or Belarusians they are not genetically and phenotypically indistinguishable from Russians.


Poles, Belarusians and Germans are Russians speaking Polish, Belarusian and German respectively.

but Germans are?


Since Russia is a European country, I don't see why other Europeans shouldn't be allowed to freely integrate and live there.

Olika
10-19-2011, 07:45 AM
Elena Korikova actress
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16544&stc=1&d=1319009016
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16545&stc=1&d=1319009016http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16546&stc=1&d=1319009016
Sergey Bezrukov actor
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16547&stc=1&d=1319009313
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16548&stc=1&d=1319009313
Maria Kozhevnikova actress
http://st.kinopoisk.ru/im/kadr/1/2/4/kinopoisk.ru-Mariya-Kozhevnikova-1248536.jpg
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13400&stc=1&d=1313682440

Basil
10-19-2011, 08:03 AM
yes, nice looking russian, but they are not heroes. they are fucking traitors worthy of contempt.:(
I certainly wouldn't cast all of them into the same category, but I've probably missed something, because I can't fathom since when the so called 'anti-partisan' formations such as RONA which were allowed to carry arms only because someone had to do a dirty job for the Germans are heros.

Austrvegr
10-19-2011, 09:12 AM
I certainly wouldn't cast all of them into the same category, but I've probably missed something, because I can't fathom since when the so called 'anti-partisan' formations such as RONA which were allowed to carry arms only because someone had to do a dirty job for the Germans are heros.

Because they were the army of a Free Russian State and fought the worst enemies of the Russian people.

Onychodus
10-19-2011, 12:40 PM
But Russians don't speak Iranic so how can they be "Aryan"? Unless you are using Hitlers twisted defintion of Aryan that applies to all blond/blue eyed people.
Russians only made up 40% of the population of the USSR.

according to german national-socialist ideology they were aryans

Onychodus
10-19-2011, 12:45 PM
Because they were the army of a Free Russian State and fought the worst enemies of the Russian people.

Free Russian State? do you mean indian reservation "Lokot republic"?

Austrvegr
10-19-2011, 02:11 PM
Free Russian State? do you mean indian reservation "Lokot republic"?

I mean the Free Russian State 'Lokot republic'.

Austrvegr
10-19-2011, 02:16 PM
Hitler considered Slavic culture to be degenerate and inferior

Exactly, so degenerate and inferior that his best directors made films based on Slavic culture.

Die Kreutzersonate (1937)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Kreutzersonate

Der Postmeister (1940)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Postmeister

;)

Onychodus
10-19-2011, 02:29 PM
I mean the Free Russian State 'Lokot republic'.

it was too small to represent whole Russia and has few supporters (6000 collaborators against 60000 partisans)

Austrvegr
10-19-2011, 03:19 PM
it was too small to represent whole Russia and has few supporters (6000 collaborators against 60000 partisans)

False figures (like all commie propaganda).

Onychodus
10-19-2011, 03:33 PM
False figures (like all commie propaganda).

what figure is from your sources?

Hess
10-19-2011, 03:39 PM
some by quotes by Hitler about Russians, from Hitler's table talk-

p 3-5

In the eyes of the Russian, the principal support of civilisation is vodka. His ideal consists in never doing anything but the indispensable. Our conception of work (work, and then more of it!) is one that he submits to as if it were a real curse. It is doubtful whether anything at all can be done in Russia without the help of the Orthodox priest. It's the priest who has been able to reconcile the Russian to the fatal necessity of work —by promising him more happiness in another world. The Russian will never make up his mind to work except under compulsion from outside, for he is incapable of organising himself. And if, despite everything, he is apt to have organisation thrust upon him, that is thanks to the drop of Aryan blood in his veins. It's only because of this drop that the Russian people has created something and possesses an organised State. It takes energy to rule Russia. The corollary is that, the tougher a country's régime, the more appropriate it is that equity and justice should be practised there. The horse that is not kept constantly under control forgets in the wink of an eye the rudiments of training that have been inculcated into it. In the same way, with the Russian, there is an instinctive force that invariably leads him back to the state of nature. People sometimes quote the case of the horses that escaped from a ranch in America, and by some ten years later had formed huge herds of wild horses. It is so easy for an animal to go back to its origins ! For the Russian, the return to the state of nature is a return to primitive forms of life. The family exists, the female looks after her children, like the female of the hare, with all the feelings of a mother. But the Russian doesn't want anything more. His reaction against the constraint of the organised State (which is always a constraint, since it limits the liberty of the individual) is brutal and savage, like all feminine reactions. When he collapses and should yield, the Russian bursts into lamentations. This will to return to the state of nature is exhibited in his revolutions. For the Russian, the typical form of revolution is nihilism.


p.40

Asia,, what a disquieting reservoir of men ! The safety of Europe will not be assured until we have driven Asia back behind the Urals. No organised Russian State must be allowed to exist west of that line. They are brutes, and neither Bolshevism nor Tsarism makes any difference—they are brutes in a state of nature. The danger would be still greater if this space were to be Mongolised. Suddenly a wave comes foaming down from Asia and surprises a Europe benumbed by civilisation and deceived by the illusion of collective security! Since there is no natural protection against such a flood, we must meet it with a living wall. A permanent state of war on the Eastern front will help to form a sound race of men, and will prevent us from relapsing into the softness of a Europe thrown back upon itself.

p.44

The Russian finds his place in human society only in its collectivist form—that is to say, he is tied to work by a horrible compulsion. The spirit of society, mutual consideration, etc., are to him things unknown.

p.38

It's inconceivable that a higher people should painfully exist on a soil too narrow for it, whilst amorphous masses, which contribute nothing to civilisation, occupy infinite tracts of a soil that is one of the richest in the world. We painfully wrest a few metres from the sea, we torment ourselves cultivating marshes—and in the Ukraine an inexhaustibly fertile soil, with a thickness, in places, often metres of humus, lies waiting for us. We must create conditions for our people that favour its multiplication, and we must at the same time build a dike against the Russian flood. If this war had not taken place, the Reich would scarcely have increased its population during the next ten years, but the Russian population would have grown vigorously.

Any Russian Hitlerite is a traitor to his people :coffee:

Austrvegr
10-19-2011, 07:05 PM
some by quotes by Hitler about Russians, from Hitler's table talk-


I believe only facts not commie or liberal kike lies. The fact is, Russians in the Third Reich had all the rights Germans had. Russians in the Third Reich were treated immensely better than in the USSR.



Any Russian Hitlerite is a traitor to his people :coffee:


Any Russian who believes Russophobic commie or liberal kike lies is much more so.

Onychodus
10-19-2011, 07:08 PM
The fact is, Russians in the Third Reich had all the rights Germans had. Russians in the Third Reich were treated immensely better than in the USSR.

...

Austrvegr
10-19-2011, 07:11 PM
what figure is from your sources?

RONA had about 20,000 soldiers.

Onychodus
10-19-2011, 07:14 PM
rona had about 20,000 soldiers.

В брянской области? Источник?

Hess
10-19-2011, 08:21 PM
I believe only facts not commie or liberal kike lies. The fact is, Russians in the Third Reich had all the rights Germans had. Russians in the Third Reich were treated immensely better than in the USSR.

:eek:

So anything that doesn't fit your agenda is placed under the category of "commie or liberal kike lies"?

Wake up- Hitler thought Russians, Poles, etc. were the scum of the earth.

The only slavs he liked were the Croats, and that's because he considered them more Germanic than Slavic.

"If the Croats were part of the Reich, we'd have them serving as faithful auxiliaries of the German Fuehrer, to police our marshes. Whatever happens, one shouldn't treat them as Italy is doing at present. The Croats are a proud people. They should be bound directly to the Fuehrer by an oath of loyalty. Like that, one could rely upon them absolutely. When I have Kvaternik standing in front of me, I behold the very type of the Croat as I've always known him, unshakeable in his friendships, a man whose oath is eternally binding. The Croats are very keen on not being regarded as Slavs. According to them, they're descended from the Goths. The fact that they speak a Slav language is only an accident, they say." - page 95 of Hitler's table talk


Any Russian who believes Russophobic commie or liberal kike lies is much more so.

I am not an advocate of Stalin, but at least he didn't plan the mass enslavement and/or extermination of all Russians :rolleyes2:

Austrvegr
10-19-2011, 09:09 PM
Wake up- Hitler thought Russians, Poles, etc. were the scum of the earth.


These are your words, not Hitler's.


page 95 of Hitler's table talk


Hitler's table talk is a fake, so spare me that nonsense.


I am not an advocate of Stalin, but at least he didn't plan the mass enslavement and/or extermination of all Russians :rolleyes2:

Millions of Russians were murdered in the USSR. Russians in the USSR were abject slaves who could be any moment arrested, tortured, put in concentration camp or murdered without a slighest reason.

Not a single Russian was murdered in the Third Reich. The Third Reich had a big thriving Russian community whose civil rights were respected and who suffered no persecution.

These are historical facts, not table talks.

Hess
10-19-2011, 09:24 PM
These are your words, not Hitler's.



Hitler's table talk is a fake, so spare me that nonsense.



Millions of Russians were murdered in the USSR. Russians in the USSR were abject slaves who could be any moment arrested, tortured, put in concentration camp or murdered without a slighest reason.

Not a single Russian was murdered in the Third Reich. The Third Reich had a big thriving Russian community whose civil rights were respected and who suffered no persecution.

These are historical facts, not table talks.

Want one that's not from hitler's table talk? Here.

"The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness.
Adolf Hitler"

To conference of senior officers of Wehrmacht, March 1941

He said it clearly- racial differences.

d3cimat3d
10-19-2011, 09:32 PM
These are your words, not Hitler's.



Hitler's table talk is a fake, so spare me that nonsense.



Millions of Russians were murdered in the USSR. Russians in the USSR were abject slaves who could be any moment arrested, tortured, put in concentration camp or murdered without a slighest reason.

Not a single Russian was murdered in the Third Reich. The Third Reich had a big thriving Russian community whose civil rights were respected and who suffered no persecution.

These are historical facts, not table talks.

Who cares, it was a Spartan society - those who were weak died, strong survived - My great-grandfather was a kulak in Bessarabia and was sent to a Siberian gulag, but survived, so it's not as bad as everyone thinks, it wasn't a death sentence. Without that discipline from Stalin, there would have been lots of disloyal people and defectors to the Nazi side, USSR would have lost for sure (but I guess that's what you would want). Under the leadership of Stalin, Russian people came out as winners, not losers like you wanted them to be.

8IGbjPqFFvA

Austrvegr
10-19-2011, 09:43 PM
Want one that's not from hitler's table talk? Here.

"The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness.
Adolf Hitler"

To conference of senior officers of Wehrmacht, March 1941

He said it clearly- racial differences.

He did not say, racial differences between Germans and Russians. The official Reich position was that the war was waged by Germans in alliance with Russian people against Jewish Bolshevism .

Austrvegr
10-19-2011, 09:45 PM
Who cares, it was a Spartan society - those who were weak died, strong survived - My great-grandfather was a kulak in Bessarabia and was sent to a Siberian gulag, but survived, so it's not as bad as everyone thinks, it wasn't a death sentence. Without that discipline from Stalin, there would have been lots of disloyal people and defectors to the Nazi side, USSR would have lost for sure (but I guess that's what you would wnat). Under the leadership of Stalin, Russian people came out as winners, not losers like you wanted them to be.

8IGbjPqFFvA

You are a subhuman Middle Easterner like Jewgashvili.

d3cimat3d
10-19-2011, 09:55 PM
You are a subhuman Middle Easterner like Jewgashvili.

No I'm not. Genes don't lie:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24947

You are a coward, a discrace to all all Russians. I recomend you change your ethnicity to: coward, traitor, wanna-be German or something similar.

Hess
10-19-2011, 10:22 PM
He did not say, racial differences between Germans and Russians. The official Reich position was that the war was waged by Germans in alliance with Russian people against Jewish Bolshevism .

Thats just rediculous. Don't forget that Hitler was a politician, and politicians rarely leave anything to the imagination. If that's really the way he felt, he would have specified it.

Austrvegr
10-20-2011, 10:44 AM
Thats just rediculous. Don't forget that Hitler was a politician, and politicians rarely leave anything to the imagination.

OK. Give me at least one document whose authenticity can be ascertained where Hitler calls Russians subhuman.

Hess
10-20-2011, 12:02 PM
OK. Give me at least one document whose authenticity can be ascertained where Hitler calls Russians subhuman.

I can't find you a document where Hitler calls Poles and Czechs subhuman either, and yet he killed them by the millions. Why do you think it's any different with Russia?

Olika
10-20-2011, 12:51 PM
http://cs10079.vkontakte.ru/u760541/144081673/x_bb475edb.jpg
http://cs11072.vkontakte.ru/u133429258/144081673/y_fa01d621.jpg
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http://cs10387.vkontakte.ru/u49354048/117090446/x_bdb65c35.jpg

Austrvegr
10-20-2011, 01:22 PM
I can't find you a document where Hitler calls Poles and Czechs subhuman either, and yet he killed them by the millions. Why do you think it's any different with Russia?

Because not a single Russian was killed in the Third Reich, while millions of Russians were killed in the USSR. That is, Soviets considered Russians subhuman, while Nazis did not.

Olika
10-20-2011, 01:35 PM
http://cs4571.vkontakte.ru/u21532901/142237579/y_b4e1c41d.jpg
http://cs10509.vkontakte.ru/u70733368/142237579/y_32826e86.jpg
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http://cs943.vkontakte.ru/u50051542/112542565/y_9009dcc7.jpg

Basil
10-20-2011, 01:59 PM
I believe only facts not commie or liberal kike lies. The fact is, Russians in the Third Reich had all the rights Germans had. Russians in the Third Reich were treated immensely better than in the USSR.

Is that why they were kept in barbed camps and were forced to wear a sign "OST" on their clothes? Don't fall into this trap: there's a huge difference between a small community of the Russian white emigrees in Berlin and those peasants from the occupied territories whose lives were valued less than the cattle. The nazi's racial doctrine, if you are familiar with it, nowhere contradicts such a double standard. The fact is, the nazis waged a cruel colonial war in the East where the natives were viewed as an inferior race meant to step aside giving the way for the new masters. And you're just buying that propaganda about the anti-bolshevik crusade by which the nazis tried to persuade non-Germans to join their side.

beaver
10-20-2011, 02:02 PM
The official Reich position was that the war was waged by Germans in alliance with Russian people against Jewish Bolshevism .
Almost all "Jewish Bolsheviks" were already either on Magadan (Kolyma) or in another world (like Trotsky e.g. with his world revolution) to the moment of beginning the plan Barbarossa. The uncle Joe was a bandit for sure but he was enough smart bandit to understand that the communist experiment had failed. He (along with the Politburo) was just recovering the Russian Empire structure at the moment (along with different classes and "social injustice"). Stalin is the greatest anticommunist of all time, without any jokes.
Also, the Belorussians lost 1/4 of the population for 3 (only 3) years of German occupation.

Austrvegr
10-20-2011, 02:28 PM
Is that why they were kept in barbed camps and were forced to wear a sign "OST" on their clothes?


Lie.



peasants from the occupied territories whose lives were valued less than the cattle.


Lie.



The nazi's racial doctrine, if you are familiar with it, nowhere contradicts such a double standard. The fact is, the nazis waged a cruel colonial war in the East where the natives were viewed as an inferior race meant to step aside giving the way for the new masters.


Lie.



And you're just buying that propaganda about the anti-bolshevik crusade by which the nazis tried to persuade non-Germans to join their side.


You are just buying commie kike propaganda.

Even in German-occupied areas during the war Russian civilians were much better off than in Soviet-occupied areas during peace.

Mordid
10-20-2011, 02:32 PM
Could this guy pass as Russian?
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34152

Onychodus
10-20-2011, 02:36 PM
Lie.



Lie.



Lie.



You are just buying commie kike propaganda.

Even in German-occupied areas during the war Russian civilians were much better off than in Soviet-occupied areas during peace.

i wonder what german neo-nazis would say on your statements

Austrvegr
10-20-2011, 02:36 PM
Almost all "Jewish Bolsheviks" were already either on Magadan (Kolyma) or in another world (like Trotsky e.g. with his world revolution) to the moment of beginning the plan Barbarossa.


Lie. Stalin's repressions never targeted specifically Jews. The percentage of their Jewish victims is exactly the same as the percentage of Jews in the entire population (about 1.5%).

The war time propaganda you are repeating here was invented mostly by commie kikes like Stalin's chief propagandist Ilya Ehrenburg.



The uncle Joe was a bandit for sure but he was enough smart bandit to understand that the communist experiment had failed. He (along with the Politburo) was just recovering the Russian Empire structure at the moment (along with different classes and "social injustice"). Stalin is the greatest anticommunist of all time, without any jokes.


The mass slaughter of Russians started in 1917 ended only with Stalin's death in 1953. From 1917 to 1953 the USSR was ruled by Middle Eastern subhumans who murdered millions of the best White Aryan Russian People.

Mordid
10-20-2011, 02:37 PM
Could this guy pass as Russian?

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34152

Sorry. Fixed.

Austrvegr
10-20-2011, 02:39 PM
i wonder what german neo-nazis would say on your statements

I personally do not care. I base my statements on historical facts, not on opinions of German neo-Nazis.

Austrvegr
10-20-2011, 02:40 PM
Sorry. Fixed.

From anthropological viewpoint, yes, but there is still something very Polish about him.

Basil
10-20-2011, 03:02 PM
Even in German-occupied areas during the war Russian civilians were much better off than in Soviet-occupied areas during peace.
Ok, it's pretty much obvious that arguing with you is meaningless.
My g-grandparents and grandparents both alive and passed away would object to your opinion. They saw the war and occupation with their own eyes and had something to compare.

Onychodus
10-20-2011, 03:07 PM
English version of "Der Untermensch"

On the infinite a steppes of Russian territory lay Eastern Europe. A sharp contrast is noticed when comparing central Europe with this enormous space. On both sides of the border is the same earth but not the same man.
It is the man who makes his mark on the landscape, while on the German side is planned orderly fields yielding abundant harvests; the other side is only impenetrable forests, vast and unkempt, miles of uninhabited steppes where even the rivers wind endlessly through the nothingness.
This poorly kept land which hides fertile soil could be a paradise for man, a potential "California of Europe" alive with fields and fruit, but instead it lies neglected and wasted, lost to the abyss of cultural nihilism.
This land cries out against the subhuman and his wasteful ways! This fertile black earth watered by burning tears, is only barely separated from the rest of Europe. However its Eastern European masters have not risen above their primitive ways.
The land sees only chaos and wastes because it is not cared for by true man, the bearer of high culture and genius, who would manage its development, and bring civilization to its soil instead of only cruel and endless war, and destruction.
Certainly, the developed nations of Central and Western Europe wanted to secure this land, it was their purpose. First there were the Goths and the Varangians, who based there empires in this territory and introduced culture. Then the Swedish, Flemish, the Dutch, Shwabs and Lower-Saxon settlers, attempted to bring light into the darkness. The cry for help sounded for centuries from these lands.
Even Peter the Great, Catherine II and all the rest called the German peasant and the German officer, a European scientist! A physician and engineer. But once again the forces of darkness, and the subhuman prevailed, the German spirit, which came to these lands to help, was brutally and senselessly destroyed.
The subhuman has challenged humanity, thus began the terrible invasion of Attila and Gengis Khan!
On their small ugly steppe horses, the subhuman hordes appearing as if they were part of the animal, growing out of its fur, descended onto Europe with their inhuman cry!
Their narrow eyes shone with excitement and the greedy bloodthirsty desire to reign down fire and destruction on all in their path.
The cry “the Huns come” was heard for centuries and became synonymous with fear and loathing. Russia became the stepping stone for where the subhuman ideology and doctrine burst forth against the world of light.
Repeatedly these wild barbarians with sharpened spears, cursing and foaming at the mouth came to bring destruction to the cultured west.

The red poet Peter Oreshchin in one of his writings said:

“Holy mother earth shakes under the stomping of millions of feet. The sickle of the moon was hidden behind the mosque and the cross of church. This is the end to the lights of Paris.
From the steppe rises the smoke of the victims, brought to their new god. London sinks under the waters. All of Berlin lies in ruins. The sweet moan of the noble, that perishes in combat. Hordes will sweep toward Mont Blanc and will traverse Gods valleys.
So the nomadic Kirghizs pray to a new world!”

“And here are they again here, these Huns, these splinters of inhumanity, a nightmare become reality, punch to the face of all that is kind and good.
“…at ease with their own primitive nature, in full knowledge of the repulsions from all of mankind they are a suitable tool in the hands of their master the eternal Jew! There leader in organized mass murder remains camouflaged in his civilian dress, the Jew is only invisible to the naive fools”
Mulattos and Finn-Asian barbarians, Gipsy’s and black skin savages all make up this modern underworld of subhuman’s that is always headed by the appearance of the eternal Jew.
The desire of the subhuman is for the German peasant, and all the people of the Europe to be destroyed and completely eradicated from the face of the earth.
This is the price of “humanity“. This is the fate of civilized society, to be sacrificed in blood.

http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/deruntermensch.html

Austrvegr
10-20-2011, 03:34 PM
English version of "Der Untermensch"

Good, read it and see that it never calls Slavs or Russians Untermenschen.

Austrvegr
10-20-2011, 03:35 PM
Ok, it's pretty much obvious that arguing with you is meaningless.


Yes, I am immune to commie kike propaganda. I believe only facts.

Onychodus
10-20-2011, 03:36 PM
Good, read it and see that it never calls Slavs or Russians Untermenschen.

it is clearly said that Russia and East Europe is filled by hordes of subhumen

Austrvegr
10-20-2011, 03:41 PM
it is clearly said that Russia and East Europe is filled by hordes of subhumen

Where does it clearly say that those subhumans are Russians or Slavs?

Onychodus
10-20-2011, 03:44 PM
Where does it clearly say that those subhumans are Russians or Slavs?

and who they are then? what population? do you see these brown hordes every day in Russian cities?

beaver
10-20-2011, 04:23 PM
Stalin's repressions never targeted specifically Jews. The percentage of their Jewish victims is exactly the same as the percentage of Jews in the entire population (about 1.5%).
Yes, of course, and where did you find a statement from my side that the regime especially killed usual Jews by their nationality? This is to your friends - Hitler and Himmler. And the Jewish communistic elite (Trotskyists e.g.) surely couldn't influence the whole statistics. And yes, these Trotskyists could be also Russians and Yakuts.

Jews in the the Central Committee:

Евреи в ЦК партии. В составе ЦК партии евреи вплоть до 1952 играли видную роль. Всего в состав ЦК за все годы входил 51 еврей. Максимальный удельный вес в ЦК евреи составляли в 1917-1918 - 25%. В период с 1918 по 1939 удельный вес евреев в составе ЦК колебался в пределах от 10 до 18%. Максимальное количество евреев в составе ЦК в течение этого периода было в 1934 - 24 человека из 136 (17,6%). Затем количество евреев в ЦК стало резко уменьшаться: в 1939 - 14%, в 1952 - 5, в 1956 - 4.

http://www.beseder.co.il/evrei-v-rukovodstve-sssr1917-1991

PS For non-Russian speaking:
Затем количество евреев в ЦК стало резко уменьшаться = then the number of Jews in the Central Committee was sharply reduced

Austrvegr
10-20-2011, 04:44 PM
and who they are then? what population? do you see these brown hordes every day in Russian cities?

Read the brochure more attentively. It says who they are.

If you find that they are Russians or Slavs, show me where it says so.

Austrvegr
10-20-2011, 04:48 PM
Yes, of course, and where did you find a statement from my side that the regime especially killed usual Jews by their nationality? This is to your friends - Hitler and Himmler. And the Jewish communistic elite (Trotskyists e.g.) surely couldn't influence the whole statistics. And yes, these Trotskyists could be also Russians and Yakuts.

So the percentage of Jews in the Central Committee was slightly reduced. While everywhere else it remained the same. On the other hand the percentage of Caucasians rose. So the USSR remained dominated by Middle Eastern scum until Stalin's death.

Onychodus
10-20-2011, 05:19 PM
So the percentage of Jews in the Central Committee was slightly reduced. While everywhere else it remained the same. On the other hand the percentage of Caucasians rose. So the USSR remained dominated by Middle Eastern scum until Stalin's death.

Caucasians were considered aryans by your national socialist heroes

research_centre
10-20-2011, 05:24 PM
Caucasians were considered aryans by your national socialist heroes


The division of the Caucasian race into Aryans, Semites and Hamites is in origin linguistic, not based on physical anthropology, the division in physical anthropology being that into Nordic, Alpine and Mediterranean. However, the linguistic classification of "Aryan" later became closely associated, and conflated, with the classification of "Nordic" among some archaeologists and anthropologists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race

beaver
10-20-2011, 05:33 PM
So the percentage of Jews in the Central Committee was slightly reduced. While everywhere else it remained the same. On the other hand the percentage of Caucasians rose. So the USSR remained dominated by Middle Eastern scum until Stalin's death.
Austrvegr, you didn't really read my posts here for sure now. Let's stop the pointless debate here. Also, I very liked your series of Russians (Vologda if i'm not mistaken) - one of the best series here IMHO.

Hess
10-20-2011, 05:47 PM
Yes, I am immune to commie kike propaganda. I believe only facts.

что за чушь :confused:



Because not a single Russian was killed in the Third Reich, while millions of Russians were killed in the USSR. That is, Soviets considered Russians subhuman, while Nazis did not.

Гитлеровцы как вы позор для всей России.

Gunslinger
10-20-2011, 05:52 PM
Photos of graduates (schools of Saratov)

Persons with non-russian last names are marked


http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4408/2246src.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1214/2957src.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9370/29156src.jpg

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http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/530/34165src.jpg

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/173/83170src.jpg

beaver
10-20-2011, 07:27 PM
Гитлеровцы как вы позор для всей России.
Dear Hess its really very complicated theme. Nobody can judge here.

Hess
10-20-2011, 08:10 PM
Dear Hess its really very complicated theme. Nobody can judge here.

Oleg, a Nazi from St. Petersburg
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2005/08/14/mn_russia09_skinheads.jpg


what would Oleg's grandfather say?

beaver
10-20-2011, 08:31 PM
what would Oleg's grandfather say?
This would be difficult to translate :)

Humanophage
10-20-2011, 08:39 PM
what would Oleg's grandfather say?
He would probably approve. On a few occasions, I have been approached by very elderly people who complained to me about non-white foreigners while praising skinheads. I have no idea why they would choose me, I look like an ordinary person (though obviously white). Perhaps I just seem trustworthy. My own grandparents are very negative about assorted Asians as well, and more or less neutral on skinheads.

Not to mention the fact that this Oleg is from RNE.

Hess
10-20-2011, 08:50 PM
He would probably approve. On a few occasions, I have been approached by very elderly people who complained to me about non-white foreigners while praising skinheads. I have no idea why they would choose me, I look like an ordinary person (though obviously white). Perhaps I just seem trustworthy. My own grandparents are very negative about assorted Asians as well, and more or less neutral on skinheads.

Not to mention the fact that this Oleg is from RNE.

I still go to Russia very often and from what I can tell, the social climate among former Soviet people of European descent (Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians, Pontic Greeks, etc) is very Nationalist but still anti-Hitler

beaver
10-20-2011, 09:05 PM
He would probably approve. On a few occasions, I have been approached by very elderly people who complained to me about non-white foreigners while praising skinheads. I have no idea why they would choose me, I look like an ordinary person (though obviously white).
What relation is finally between "Russians vs. Germans" (while WW2) and "Russian vs. these foreigners" (just now). I'm lost:eek:

Humanophage
10-20-2011, 09:06 PM
And what relation is finally between "Russians vs. Germans" (while WW2) and "Russian vs. these foreigners" (just now). I'm lost:eek:
The relation is between skinheads, who are widely perceived as chiefly Nazi, and Nazi Russians.

That is not to say that I support National-Socialism, but I don't really find Russians adhering to it especially outrageous or illogical in comparison to other fringe groups. They just have odd, unrealistic priorities and fancy being provocative and militaristic, like Stalinists or Monarchist nuts. At least they choose a model that put an emphasis on race, even if the Nazis somehow reasoned it was a good idea to plunge their own ethnicity into a war and die en masse.

beaver
10-20-2011, 09:16 PM
The relation is between skinheads and Nazi Russians.
Can you please explain you point in the more understandable form?:eek:

Hess
10-20-2011, 09:27 PM
The relation is between skinheads, who are widely perceived as chiefly Nazi, and Nazi Russians.

That is not to say that I support National-Socialism, but I don't really find Russians adhering to it especially outrageous or illogical in comparison to other fringe groups. They just have odd, unrealistic priorities and fancy being provocative and militaristic, like Stalinists or Monarchist nuts. At least they choose a model that put an emphasis on race, even if the Nazis somehow reasoned it was a good idea to plunge their own ethnicity into a war and die en masse.


Can you please explain you point in the more understandable form?:eek:

:lol: why can't we all just talk in Russian? We all know it and it would make discussion more productive

Humanophage
10-20-2011, 09:30 PM
Can you please explain you point in the more understandable form?:eek:
Most people associate skinheads with Nazis. Like I said, the elderly people in question slandered non-whites and praised skinheads. Since skinheads are generally seen as Nazi, praising them means that at least some elderly have no trouble with Nazis - or, rather, not with nowadays supporters of Nazis.

And then why does it matter so much what the elderly think? Obviously, they were subjected to heavy propaganda during the war and afterwards, for most of their lives. Many American elderly people believe Russians are evil monsters of some sort.


why can't we all just talk in Russian? We all know it and it would make discussion more productive
Because it's the English section of the forum, naturally, and for everyone to see the discussion. I, for instance, often read threads dedicated to other ethnicities and countries.

Austrvegr
10-21-2011, 07:03 AM
What relation is finally between "Russians vs. Germans" (while WW2) and "Russian vs. these foreigners" (just now). I'm lost:eek:

The topic "Russians vs. foreigners" is always turned into the topic "Russians vs. Germans in WW2". Go to youtube and you will find under each video about Russian nationalists thousands of retarded comments like "How can Russians hate non-white foreigners, since German Nazis thought Russians were subhuman and wanted to exterminate them?"

Austrvegr
10-21-2011, 07:06 AM
Caucasians were considered aryans by your national socialist heroes

Only in Caucasians' deluded wet dreams.

:D

Olika
10-22-2011, 11:27 AM
http://cs9843.vkontakte.ru/u74178647/-6/z_38e80567.jpg
http://cs10185.vkontakte.ru/u59028737/114420788/x_77e24595.jpg
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http://cs4971.vkontakte.ru/u6882975/119780933/z_9a20c5f2.jpg

beaver
10-22-2011, 01:08 PM
if women did not dye the hair :) Only junior football teams can help in the pigmentation point

d3cimat3d
10-23-2011, 08:18 AM
Only in Caucasians' deluded wet dreams.

:D

If you know the history of your country you will realize it's not such a un-realistic claim afterall, so there's nothing delusional about it, considering that the north Caucasus was pounded hard by early Iranic speaking tribes, than later on by Turkic ones. & It very much shows in their DNA - Chechens are 20% North-European. While Russians are 80%... But when talking in regards to Aryans, it's more about quality rathern than quantity. Chechen north European percentages are derived from Iranic speaking people.

Lisa
10-23-2011, 03:44 PM
Photos of graduates (schools of Saratov)

Persons with non-russian last names are marked




Russian surname and name =/= Ethnic Russian . Поэтому глупо публиковать эти фотографии . Я заметила много неотмеченных - явно нерусских .

Lisa
10-23-2011, 03:48 PM
http://cs4971.vkontakte.ru/u6882975/119780933/z_9a20c5f2.jpg

This guy look like Pole or Ukrainian. Maybe Moldavian .

Hess
10-23-2011, 03:51 PM
This guy look like Pole or Ukrainian. Maybe Moldavian .

I would have thought he was polish or Czech, not so much Moldavian or Ukrainian.

Mordid
10-23-2011, 03:55 PM
This guy look like Pole or Ukrainian. Maybe Moldavian .

Nah, he doesn't look like a Pole.

Lisa
10-23-2011, 04:10 PM
Russians
http://s017.radikal.ru/i441/1110/9c/7169ded05004.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i431/1110/5a/7f2a10c04b93.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i402/1110/c2/23548529d4c3.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i404/1110/39/d8391b11abee.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i411/1110/2d/4ad48fea925f.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s45.radikal.ru/i110/1110/56/17864728f8c1.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s47.radikal.ru/i116/1110/41/f1c57f1f4d79.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s55.radikal.ru/i148/1110/b2/98fb62519476.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s41.radikal.ru/i093/1110/c9/e80afbb17ae2.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://i053.radikal.ru/1110/c8/14efed35f44b.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i412/1110/3a/e8ad15365db9.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Onychodus
10-23-2011, 04:23 PM
Russian surname and name =/= Ethnic Russian

this is the best method to determine who is russian and who is not
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6712/pic0np.jpg

Humanophage
10-23-2011, 05:58 PM
this is the best method to determine who is russian and who is not
Used to be, but now the best way to do it is an autosomal DNA test.

For example, RU23 here is only part Russian. While the "Chuvash" in the midst of Russians is predominantly Russian:
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7271/mds3.png

Lisa
10-23-2011, 06:11 PM
Used to be, but now the best way to do it is an autosomal DNA test.

For example, RU23 here is only part Russian. While the "Chuvash" in the midst of Russians is predominantly Russian:
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7271/mds3.png

Ru19 too...part Jew. And maybe some others too just say they Russians. Кстати ваши же данные по пигментации - которые вы опубликовали тут , явно показывают ошибочность выводов о этногенезе основываясь на таких малых выборках . Шведы и Финны конечно светлее Беларусов и Литовцев , а Северные Русские точно светлее Беларусов .Северные Русские близки Эстонцам по краниометрическим и соматологическим исследованиям . А Эстонцы и Латыши заметно светлее Литовцев . Вот и ошибка очень маленьких выборок ... Кстати вы всегда используете опросы на сайтах для выводов( о пигментации например) ? Это странно... Ну а моё мнение о этих картах вам известно .

Gunslinger
10-23-2011, 06:16 PM
Photos of graduates (schools of Saratov)

Persons with non-russian last names are marked


Russian surname and name =/= Ethnic Russian . Поэтому глупо публиковать эти фотографии . Я заметила много неотмеченных - явно нерусских .

You can mark graduates yourself which you don't like.

Will this be more objective then ?

Artek
10-23-2011, 07:28 PM
Russians
http://s017.radikal.ru/i412/1110/3a/e8ad15365db9.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
Nero didn't noticed the one dark haired child when selecting a photos ;) Ooops

Olika
10-24-2011, 04:57 PM
http://cs11334.vkontakte.ru/u16569281/-6/z_53f7c900.jpg
http://cs9926.vkontakte.ru/u16283439/-6/z_aa083248.jpg
http://cs10530.vkontakte.ru/u50053749/-6/z_eb59191c.jpg
http://cs5750.vkontakte.ru/u15008927/145154074/y_88e35ea4.jpg
http://cs9252.vkontakte.ru/u80553125/145154074/z_cbdafe72.jpg
http://cs10215.vkontakte.ru/u5311087/145154074/z_71821d99.jpg
http://cs5701.vkontakte.ru/u129412/167717/z_b6389d47.jpg
http://cs11096.vkontakte.ru/u5175639/124973727/x_6e423338.jpg
http://cs10684.vkontakte.ru/u50543331/-6/z_5ce492a4.jpg

Mordid
10-24-2011, 05:44 PM
I doubt it:rolleyes:
Hello, Chechen.

Svartálfar
10-24-2011, 06:58 PM
http://savelev.ru/files/pictures/file156at119.gif


Russia is fairer than Norway. :eek:

Onychodus
10-24-2011, 07:06 PM
Russia is fairer than Norway. :eek:

only small peace of Russia

Olika
10-26-2011, 02:40 PM
http://cs10900.vkontakte.ru/u2907562/5950145/z_3d109c97.jpg
http://cs9444.vkontakte.ru/u80939480/145154074/y_881b418b.jpg
http://vkontakte.ru/photo-251853_113213818
http://cs1360.vkontakte.ru/u3404576/13209720/x_d9f14d51.jpg
http://cs10547.vkontakte.ru/u10605396/-6/z_a77dc56c.jpg
http://cs5396.vkontakte.ru/u7544783/141175672/z_669bcd31.jpg

Gunslinger
10-26-2011, 03:53 PM
Photos of graduates (schools of Saratov)

Persons with non-russian last names are marked


http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9099/4585src.jpg

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/1655/4586src.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5919/4587src.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/314/4588src.jpg

Gunslinger
10-26-2011, 05:27 PM
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6002/34src.jpg

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4944/3150src.jpg

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3040/3151src.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7931/3152src.jpg

Onychodus
10-26-2011, 05:31 PM
many people with slight non-european sight

Svartálfar
10-26-2011, 07:22 PM
only small peace of Russia

In your wet dream.


or Coon's :D
http://s017.radikal.ru/i426/1110/2b/23c3e31c8b05.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
also compare with I1
http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/1110/4f/e78453ed426b.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

I1 is high even in Sicily. So what?

Olika
10-26-2011, 07:36 PM
http://cs10966.vkontakte.ru/u631895/99987286/y_d2810dee.jpg
http://cs11373.vkontakte.ru/u1657068/133012288/z_9cc9cb57.jpg
http://cs9484.vkontakte.ru/u1746516/103648143/z_58298057.jpg
http://cs5628.vkontakte.ru/u1746516/92355516/z_d560a99e.jpg
http://cs9413.vkontakte.ru/u2738641/-6/x_51c5196c.jpg

Onychodus
10-26-2011, 07:43 PM
In your wet dream.

only small peace of russia is more fair than whole norway

Svartálfar
10-26-2011, 07:49 PM
only small peace of russia is more fair than whole norway

Oh please man: No way Turkey is fairer than Bulgaria and Romania. That map is crap.

Artek
10-26-2011, 08:18 PM
I1 is high even in Sicily. So what?

Coorelating I1 distribution with light eye/light hair percentage is one of the dumbest things I ever met.
Svartalfar question has its reason - it has nothing to do with specific haplogroup, rather climate conditions are playing the leading role(UV amount especially)...

Olika
10-27-2011, 01:24 PM
http://cs620.vkontakte.ru/u39155064/124973727/y_9fda4914.jpg
http://cs10837.vkontakte.ru/u4015718/129297622/z_c4e5637a.jpg
http://cs1904.vkontakte.ru/u5336491/51416312/x_9c8b80d6.jpg
http://cs1764.vkontakte.ru/u7269828/13520447/x_d2dfd056.jpg

Olika
10-28-2011, 12:50 PM
http://cs11410.vkontakte.ru/u7917973/-6/z_fa2a39ad.jpg
http://cs11321.vkontakte.ru/u8379887/-6/y_65148405.jpg
http://cs5962.vkontakte.ru/u57538644/129342588/z_a3a897b0.jpg
http://cs10972.vkontakte.ru/u36711436/-6/z_b1703b36.jpg
http://cs9550.vkontakte.ru/u86960090/145341553/y_61d00172.jpg
http://cs10231.vkontakte.ru/u17469484/-6/x_79ebee11.jpg
http://cs10473.vkontakte.ru/u33240820/140379548/y_01004b11.jpg
http://cs5120.vkontakte.ru/u6445720/137528920/z_6cd5e7af.jpg
http://cs420.vkontakte.ru/u4376428/-6/x_eaa74007.jpg
http://cs4934.vkontakte.ru/u10318085/20908477/y_f5f86918.jpg
http://cs5548.vkontakte.ru/u86067351/-6/y_1550e24e.jpg
http://cs11297.vkontakte.ru/u7922546/-6/z_58486023.jpg

beaver
10-28-2011, 01:53 PM
Coorelating I1 distribution with light eye/light hair percentage is one of the dumbest things I ever met.
Svartalfar question has its reason - it has nothing to do with specific haplogroup, rather climate conditions are playing the leading role(UV amount especially)...
Ok, correlation between the distribution of lovers of croissants in the morning and distribution of French speaking people is also the dumbest thing for the absolutely same reason - cooking has nothing to do with linguistics :D

ps, if the matter of ultralight pigmentation in Europe overall is of interest it would be better IMO to open some another thread.

Olika
10-31-2011, 12:58 PM
http://cs4288.vkontakte.ru/u18856212/141897017/z_04375216.jpg
http://cs5742.vkontakte.ru/u27336755/143085559/z_d00b1bae.jpg
http://cs5989.vkontakte.ru/u15661272/101343543/y_bf1d042e.jpg
http://cs11502.vkontakte.ru/u24556674/116833496/y_1ee81a5e.jpghttp://cs5823.vkontakte.ru/u46515211/-6/y_b5e8a5fc.jpg
http://cs5928.vkontakte.ru/u95272416/115889654/x_f4d44aa9.jpg
http://cs10292.vkontakte.ru/u80933251/126068119/x_8fb77c9b.jpg
http://cs197.vkontakte.ru/u87220348/112198659/x_d678536c.jpg
http://cs5425.vkontakte.ru/u823663/-6/z_795a0eef.jpg
http://cs11183.vkontakte.ru/u316699/129511597/z_faa3bb90.jpg
http://cs10268.vkontakte.ru/u14652634/-6/z_8735f865.jpg

Lisa
11-01-2011, 09:38 PM
http://cs5425.vkontakte.ru/u823663/-6/z_795a0eef.jpg
[/QUOTE]

I think he not 100% ethnic Russian

Hess
11-01-2011, 09:46 PM
http://cs5425.vkontakte.ru/u823663/-6/z_795a0eef.jpg




just look at his black eyebrows. he must be a Churka :thumb001:

Lisa
11-01-2011, 09:50 PM
Russian
http://s54.radikal.ru/i144/1111/48/e813c464f595.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
and his grandson
http://s015.radikal.ru/i331/1111/2a/a6f247b83519.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Artek
11-01-2011, 10:10 PM
Only two photos?No more Russian Nordids pictures left? All of them are out?
I'm so sorry, darling :lol00002::lol00002:

Mordid
11-01-2011, 10:17 PM
Only two photos?No more Russian Nordids pictures left? All of them are out?
I'm so sorry, darling :lol00002::lol00002:
Shut up, Polack. Russians are unbermensch Nordid, deal with it.

Olika
11-02-2011, 12:20 PM
http://cs4477.vkontakte.ru/u2920643/-6/z_4816f9d6.jpg
http://cs9700.vkontakte.ru/u3169937/141209760/x_9d5ca707.jpg
http://cs5900.vkontakte.ru/u5651003/15452031/z_a7646b22.jpg
http://cs11307.vkontakte.ru/u88104543/115074917/z_329f5e6c.jpg
http://cs895.vkontakte.ru/u7987585/92177498/x_a59a33f7.jpg
http://cs4987.vkontakte.ru/u89649240/92177498/y_453fb76e.jpg
http://cs406.vkontakte.ru/u11022558/-6/y_1fe400b0.jpg

Anastazja
11-02-2011, 12:31 PM
Is there a thread like this for norwegian men?

Onychodus
11-02-2011, 01:47 PM
dark eyes again

Unurautare
11-02-2011, 02:29 PM
Only two photos?No more Russian Nordids pictures left? All of them are out?
I'm so sorry, darling :lol00002::lol00002:

Here you go,you can *fap* to this specimen,he's a Russian living in Romania:

http://www.ascrie.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/esqcover_sept.jpg

http://www.tvmania.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Andrei-GheorgheZL3.jpg

http://www.news20.ro/pics/news/15033_ghe.jpg


Trivia: Surprising,for a Russian(and for a Mass media related figure),he is anti-conspiracy theories.

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 06:50 PM
Natalya Pereverzeva, Miss Moscow 2010


http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Pereverzeva-Natalya2.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Pereverzeva-Natalya1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Pereverzeva-Natalya3.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Pereverzeva-Natalya4.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Pereverzeva-Natalya5.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Pereverzeva-Natalya6.jpg

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 06:58 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd01.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd05.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd02.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd03.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd04.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Aleksandr-Timoshkin1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Aleksandr-Timoshkin2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Aleksandr-Timoshkin3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Aleksandr-Timoshkin4.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Aleksandr-Timoshkin5.jpg

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 07:00 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Valery-Lysenkov1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Valery-Lysenkov2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Valery-Lysenkov3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Valery-Lysenkov4.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Valery-Lysenkov5.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Nikolay-Makovsky1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Nikolay-Makovsky2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Viktor-Shulgin1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Viktor-Shulgin2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Viktor-Shulgin3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Viktor-Shulgin4.jpg

Onychodus
11-02-2011, 07:02 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Valery-Lysenkov1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Valery-Lysenkov2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Valery-Lysenkov3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Valery-Lysenkov4.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Valery-Lysenkov5.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Nikolay-Makovsky1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Nikolay-Makovsky2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Viktor-Shulgin1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Viktor-Shulgin2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Viktor-Shulgin3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/inkrd-Viktor-Shulgin4.jpg

is this from russian-norway movie about how vikings conqured slavic lands?

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 07:02 PM
Russians from Altai

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka01.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka02.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka03.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka04.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka05.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka07.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka08.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka09.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka10.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka11.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka12.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka13.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka14.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka16.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/poteryayevka17.jpg

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 07:05 PM
Healer Valeriy Sinelnikov


http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Sinelnikov_Valeriy1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Sinelnikov_Valeriy2.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Sinelnikov_Valeriy3.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Sinelnikov_Valeriy5.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Sinelnikov_Valeriy6.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Sinelnikov_Valeriy4.jpg

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 07:08 PM
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Bukharov_Aleksandr1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Bukharov_Aleksandr2.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Bukharov_Aleksandr3.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Bukharov_Aleksandr4.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Domogarov_Aleksandr1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Domogarov_Aleksandr2.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Domogarov_Aleksandr3.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Guard1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Guard3.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Guard4.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Kulagin_Leonid1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Kulagin_Leonid2.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Kulagin_Leonid3.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Kulagin_Leonid4.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Volk_Kulagin_Leonid5.jpg

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 07:10 PM
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Burlyayev_Nikolay1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Burlyayev_Nikolay2.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Burlyayev_Nikolay3.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Lapikov_Ivan0.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Lapikov_Ivan1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Lapikov_Ivan2.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Lapikov_Ivan4.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Lapikov_Ivan5.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Lapikov_Ivan6.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Nazarov_Yury02.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Nazarov_Yury05.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Nazarov_Yury06.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Nazarov_Yury07.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Nazarov_Yury08.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Nazarov_Yury09.jpg

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 07:10 PM
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_raznoye0.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_raznoye1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_raznoye6.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_raznoye4.jpg

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http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/AR_Solonitsyn_Anatoly14.jpg

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 07:13 PM
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/meon7/98161330.jpg

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http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/meon7/1123.jpg

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 07:15 PM
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/meon7/1124.jpg

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/meon7/1125.jpg

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http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/meon7/98157726.jpg

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 07:16 PM
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/meon7/98157810.jpg

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http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/meon7/1128.jpg

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 07:18 PM
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Cherkasov_Nikolay03.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Cherkasov_Nikolay04.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Cherkasov_Nikolay05.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Cherkasov_Nikolay06.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Kadochnikov_Pavel08.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Kadochnikov_Pavel09.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Kadochnikov_Pavel10.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Kadochnikov_Pavel12.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Kadochnikov_Pavel16.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Mgebrov_Aleksandr06.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Mgebrov_Aleksandr05.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_razn26.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Mgebrov_Aleksandr12.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Mgebrov_Aleksandr10.jpg

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 07:18 PM
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Nazvanov_Mikhail4.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Nazvanov_Mikhail6.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Nazvanov_Mikhail7.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Nazvanov_Mikhail8.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Nazvanov_Mikhail91.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Tselikovskaya_Lyudmila1.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Tselikovskaya_Lyudmila2.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Tselikovskaya_Lyudmila3.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Tselikovskaya_Lyudmila4.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Zharov_Mikhail4.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Zharov_Mikhail5.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Zharov_Mikhail8.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_Zharov_Mikhail9.jpg

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 07:19 PM
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_razn04.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_razn05.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_razn09.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_razn10.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_razn11.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_razn13.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_razn14.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_razn15.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_razn16.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_razn17.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/IG_razn28.jpg

Gunslinger
11-02-2011, 07:36 PM
http://i.imgur.com/RvR21.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/I4Ert.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3SG1A.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HwdBU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/D5aC8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RvwO2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZKUbB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UAs48.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OVziY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/M8Pms.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Eako7.jpg

Gunslinger
11-02-2011, 07:41 PM
http://i.imgur.com/EUJpM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Lh8V4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IlET9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YVdds.jpg

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http://i.imgur.com/IizDp.jpg

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http://i.imgur.com/NIo5M.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NoNuf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KQDCr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LLHdF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HPogP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Z9joy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JFLNb.jpg

Gunslinger
11-02-2011, 07:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ORf7N.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Iz81e.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LJTHF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/531eN.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MgJHj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Bsnix.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XmZ2A.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1PtWP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Tuxrh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/C8Sum.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/F0djo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SZStD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VfAI3.jpg

Gunslinger
11-02-2011, 07:55 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Hbyda.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3wjje.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZXNLO.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NIWw5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3YVCZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4PPWq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/12eHk.jpg

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http://i.imgur.com/ZBJys.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JSpXj.jpg

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http://i.imgur.com/Jcfqr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SLsl9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TAsGv.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/O0UcE.jpg

Gunslinger
11-02-2011, 08:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/T49uB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BUFWe.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/X9CtB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Tjo1l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bMy77.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QUXzx.jpg

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http://i.imgur.com/LKljI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DVFek.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/U0Z5g.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IVBVN.jpg

Lisa
11-02-2011, 08:04 PM
http://i.imgur.com/RvR21.jpg





This idiocy or trolling? She not look ethnic Russian .

Gunslinger
11-02-2011, 08:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/C5PAO.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RqIvH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QNqCR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YcxBY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/O1vWa.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XF2My.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/FsdlI.jpg

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http://i.imgur.com/bbQLF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UodwV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5B1Rl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OzkYt.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Udj2i.jpg

Gunslinger
11-02-2011, 08:09 PM
This idiocy or trolling? She not 100% ethnic Russian .

Do you know her ?

Gunslinger
11-02-2011, 08:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/OJb6e.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LFtDc.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YzRKw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XuRBh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/T695l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KcRAp.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Fl6PT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YvdSp.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UT01P.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Ur2Ew.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Dsf2e.jpg

Lisa
11-02-2011, 08:26 PM
do you know her ?

На самом деле мне просто интересно ... Кто вы такой - Русский ? Не факт . Например вы выкладывали фотографии из школ Саратова и делали метки о этничности . Просто странно откудо вам известны все их имена и фамилии ? :)

Mordid
11-02-2011, 08:28 PM
http://cdn3.asteroid.pl/c14/a.fotka.pl/073/822/73822973_500_s.jpg

Onychodus
11-02-2011, 08:45 PM
post russians from Yakutsk

Gunslinger
11-02-2011, 08:52 PM
Кто вы такой - Русский ?

I am


вы выкладывали фотографии из школ Саратова и делали метки о этничности . Просто странно откудо вам известны все их имена и фамилии ? :)

There was an explanation under each photo

Hess
11-02-2011, 08:54 PM
That woman might be one of those Russian-Ukrainian mixes, though she would still lean more towards the Russian side IMO

Onychodus
11-02-2011, 08:54 PM
can anybody show ethnical russians from Sakha-Yakutia

Lisa
11-02-2011, 09:01 PM
I am



There was an explanation under each photo

Какие обьяснения ? Где ? Пишите по Русски , а если не можете так и говорите , а не врите :mad:

Austrvegr
11-02-2011, 09:09 PM
can anybody show ethnical russians from Sakha-Yakutia

They look like ethnical Russians from anywhere else.

Artek
11-02-2011, 09:32 PM
Какие обьяснения ? Где ? Пишите по Русски , а если не можете так и говорите , а не врите :mad:
Can someone kick this bastard for using inappopriate language?

leisitox
11-02-2011, 09:42 PM
Какие обьяснения ? Где ? Пишите по Русски , а если не можете так и говорите , а не врите :mad:
вы заткнуться

Gunslinger
11-02-2011, 09:42 PM
Какие обьяснения ? Где ? Пишите по Русски , а если не можете так и говорите , а не врите :mad:

There is an explanation (name and surname of every graduate) on the web-site where i took the photos.

Пояснение (имя и фамилия каждого выпускника) есть на веб-сайте где я взял фотографии.

Так понятнее ?

Lisa
11-02-2011, 09:46 PM
Can someone kick this bastard for using inappopriate language?

И. Н - Х. :mad:
This thread about Russians.
I write as i wish in this thread. I do not write in Polish thread.
The Poles are very fond of insulting - you are good example stupid pontid .

Lisa
11-02-2011, 09:48 PM
there is an explanation (name and surname of every graduate) on the web-site where i took the photos.

Пояснение (имя и фамилия каждого выпускника) есть на веб-сайте где я взял фотографии.

Так понятнее ?

Хорошо давайте ссылку - наверное это не проблема ?

musaTJ
11-02-2011, 10:03 PM
http://cs5425.vkontakte.ru/u823663/-6/z_795a0eef.jpg


I think he not 100% ethnic Russian[/QUOTE]
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I think he not 100% ethnic Russian

I think he not 100% ethnic Russian

I think he not 100% ethnic Russian

I think he not 100% ethnic Russian

ethnic Russian I think he not 100%

I think he not 100% ethnic Russian

I think he not 100% ethnic Russian

http://www.face-palm.ru/picard.jpg

Mordid
11-02-2011, 10:04 PM
I think he not 100% ethnic Russian
I think he's typical Russki.

musaTJ
11-02-2011, 10:08 PM
I think he's typical Russki.

I think its a huge nose and eye shape - is funny.
His parents are Caucasian blood. To 100%.
typical Russian. (Russians does not exist):)

Mordid
11-02-2011, 10:11 PM
I think its a huge nose and eye shape - is funny.
His parents are Caucasian blood. To 100%.
typical Russian. (Russians does not exist):)
Hello, Chechen.

musaTJ
11-02-2011, 10:12 PM
Hello, Chechen.

i am not chechen:)
i am Tajik

Mordid
11-02-2011, 10:19 PM
i am not chechen:)
i am Tajik


tipical pole


tipical east niggas:rolleyes:
Same vocabulary (difficulty with have/had/has) and odd habit of putting no capital and misspelt.

Edit: He got banned, but he's always come back *sight*.

Olika
11-03-2011, 01:03 PM
I think he's typical Russki.
yes he Russian.i know

Redar14
11-03-2011, 01:25 PM
She not ethnic Russian . Кстати я немного про вас Вад... узнала ....


All not blonde Russians isn't ethinc Russians. Nice joke! :eek: :p

Olika
11-03-2011, 01:44 PM
http://cs5730.vkontakte.ru/u24332159/-6/y_aeb4bb44.jpg
http://cs10762.vkontakte.ru/u7044556/-6/y_9412addb.jpg
http://cs10063.vkontakte.ru/u355646/-6/x_30287201.jpg
http://cs11436.vkontakte.ru/u37763522/-6/x_dff7e997.jpg
http://cs10272.vkontakte.ru/u38641427/-6/z_3caae55c.jpg
http://cs5569.vkontakte.ru/u25091308/-6/x_d4f08462.jpg
http://cs11089.vkontakte.ru/u151372939/-6/y_0df2b5eb.jpg
http://cs4314.vkontakte.ru/u220692/128894089/z_27c29f9c.jpg
http://cs9724.vkontakte.ru/u29638625/-6/z_68a5f03d.jpg
http://cs10382.vkontakte.ru/u11972051/-6/z_be71d801.jpg
http://cs9821.vkontakte.ru/u5600183/-6/z_57da6b6c.jpg

Lisa
11-03-2011, 01:45 PM
yes he Russian.i know

I suspect he Ukrainian or Polish origin. Maybe Jew... Surname Gorokhovsky... But maybe just it look like untypical Russian .

Redar14
11-03-2011, 01:48 PM
Russian actors with Dark hair and eyes:

http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/db/actor/03/44/25/artur-smolyaninov-330148l.jpg


http://esensja.pl/obrazki/artysci/48470_Fyodor.jpg

http://cf1.imgobject.com/profiles/3a0/4d52de987b9aa1193e0063a0/konstantin-kryukov-profile.jpg

http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Aleksey_Gorbunov-4.jpg

Mordid
11-03-2011, 01:50 PM
Russians actors with Dark hair and eyes:

http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/db/actor/03/44/25/artur-smolyaninov-330148l.jpg

http://www.ruslink.pl/thumb/3970/medium_txt

http://esensja.pl/obrazki/artysci/48470_Fyodor.jpg

http://cf1.imgobject.com/profiles/3a0/4d52de987b9aa1193e0063a0/konstantin-kryukov-profile.jpg

http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Aleksey_Gorbunov-4.jpg
Typical Russians.