Russians

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14407&stc=1&d=1314969845
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14401&stc=1&d=1314969672
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14403&stc=1&d=1314969672
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14402&stc=1&d=1314969672http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14405&stc=1&d=1314969672http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14406&stc=1&d=1314969672
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14404&stc=1&d=1314969672
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14408&stc=1&d=1314969845
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14409&stc=1&d=1314969845
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14410&stc=1&d=1314969845http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14411&stc=1&d=1314969845http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14412&stc=1&d=1314969845

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14416&stc=1&d=1314970749
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14413&stc=1&d=1314970749http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14414&stc=1&d=1314970749http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14415&stc=1&d=1314970749
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14417&stc=1&d=1314970749

[Equilibrium]

Nice photos, but model photos aren´t a good representation for an ethnicity in general. This kind of threads are not about how beautiful your people are, but to represent the racial make up of the country. Therefore you should post average persons, not sherry picked individuals. ;)

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14419&stc=1&d=1314972382http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14421&stc=1&d=1314972382http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14420&stc=1&d=1314972382

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14424&stc=1&d=1314972382http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14422&stc=1&d=1314972382http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14423&stc=1&d=1314972382

[Bridie]

Well, Russians sure know how to sell themselves, I'll give them that! :D

[beaver]

Nice photos, but model photos aren´t a good representation for an ethnicity in general.
Absolutely agreed. It would be much better to post, e.g. some second-rate junior teams. And without any picking out - all the team. I will try in the next few days if I have a time. Thanks to TS in any case.

[Seeker]

this one is a nice pic of course
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14412&stc=1&d=1314969845

BUT isnt it a little too much of a heavenly and blissful / artistic photo to represent a nation ?

WTB Reallity

[Olika]

Dont jealous goat.don't be shy at least you indicate your nationality or you without clan or tribe.;)

[Olika]

Well, Russians sure know how to sell themselves, I'll give them that! :D
Dont jealous goat.don't be shy at least you indicate your nationality or you without clan or tribe.

[Seeker]

Dont jealous goat.don't be shy at least you indicate your nationality or you without clan or tribe.;)

:eek:

Rephrase please, didnt understand your point. Seriously.

[Olika]

:eek:

Rephrase please, didnt understand your point. Seriously.
it's not you.

[Waidewut]

Dont jealous goat.don't be shy at least you indicate your nationality or you without clan or tribe.

Lol, I didn't get the point either

[beaver]

BUT isnt it a little too much of a heavenly and blissful / artistic photo to represent a nation ?
Yes :) I once posted on one Russian ahtroforum the Ireland female team (Dublin) in fly fishing :D to demonstrate that they are rather North Europians.

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14425&stc=1&d=1314975273http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14426&stc=1&d=1314975273http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14427&stc=1&d=1314975273http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14428&stc=1&d=1314975273http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14429&stc=1&d=1314975812

[Bridie]

Lol, I didn't get the point either:D

She's calling me a goat and suggesting that I'm jealous of her ability to post glamour shots of Russians. :p

[Basil]

http://www.rozhdestvenka.ru/gallery2/d/56794-2/IMGP8975.jpg
http://www.rozhdestvenka.ru/gallery2/d/56941-2/IMGP9385.jpg
http://www.rozhdestvenka.ru/gallery2/d/56959-2/IMGP9410.jpg
Tambov region:
http://cs4287.vkontakte.ru/u8344465/31002992/x_ba391114.jpg
http://cs4287.vkontakte.ru/u8344465/31002992/x_647cf7b7.jpg
Irkutsk (East Siberia):
http://ib1.keep4u.ru/b/2010/10/14/0f/0fcfc72db22a7ca058ed41cdf751f72c.jpg
Nizhny Novgorod:
http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/1008/54/7df13f94b9fc.jpg
http://i056.radikal.ru/1008/de/9617433cae2d.jpg

[Hess]

Dont jealous goat.don't be shy at least you indicate your nationality or you without clan or tribe.;)

что?


http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14419&stc=1&d=1314972382http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14421&stc=1&d=1314972382http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14420&stc=1&d=1314972382

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14424&stc=1&d=1314972382http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14422&stc=1&d=1314972382http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14423&stc=1&d=1314972382

I can't help but feel like you cherry picked those photos to only include the more Nordid looking Russians.

[Olika]

:D

She's calling me a goat and suggesting that I'm jealous of her ability to post glamour shots of Russians. :p
you post your nationality.then will talk.

[Bridie]

you post your nationality.then will talk.LOL Bugger off.

[Olika]

LOL Bugger off.
ahaha you bugger off)you should not be ashamed of its nationality ok.

[Hess]

ahaha you bugger off)you should not be ashamed of their nationality ok.

she is not ashamed of their nationality, she is simply saying that you cherry picked them.

What's so hard to understand? It's not exactly rocket science.

[Heisenberg]

Don't show only cherrypicked photos.

Here is some ordinary looking russians.

http://giftsforpeace.scout.org/var/gallery_site/storage/images/projects/solidarity_for_orphaned_handicapped_and_street_chi ldren/russian_scouts_and_the_children_that_they_support/9272-1-eng-GB/russian_scouts_and_the_children_that_they_support. jpg

http://www.football-wallpapers.com/wallpapers4/russia_1_1024x768.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Refugees_from_south_ossetia-alagir.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YenY8UqC3mc/S7tgGEio6bI/AAAAAAAAB58/453jsQzLKSk/s1600/DSC_2370+c.jpg

http://askural.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/P1030401.jpg

http://www.criticalissuesforum.org/FILES/CONF2007/CIF_conf_files/image013.jpg

http://www.peacetree.info/project/2006_1/a05.jpg

http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/russian-orthodox-faithful-in-church-1-e1271537256807.jpg?w=1200&h=799

http://russianlancashire.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/dsc002001.jpg

http://www.marasloks.lv/public//UserFiles/Image/marasloks/konference-latvijaa/kulturas/venedi/venedi-foto.JPG

http://www.pacificenvironment.org/img/original/Sosnovka%202005%20Group%20shot%20v1%20by%20DG.jpg

http://nicknlatvia.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/dsc05117.jpg

http://spareworld.org/eng/sites/default/files/images/P1010038.JPG

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2428/6a00e54f9153e0883301157.jpg

[Olika]

she is not ashamed of their nationality, she is simply saying that you cherry picked them.

What's so hard to understand? It's not exactly rocket science.
меня это мало волнует если честно.не нравится чего-то,тогда что ты тут забыл.

[Hess]

меня это мало волнует если честно.не нравится чего-то,тогда что ты тут забыл.

зачем Вы обижа́етесь? они просто пытаются показать что эти фотографии не являются объективными потому что они показывают только самые светлые и "нордические" элементы русского народа.

[Bridie]

Don't show only cherrypicked photos.

Here is some ordinary looking russians.

http://giftsforpeace.scout.org/var/gallery_site/storage/images/projects/solidarity_for_orphaned_handicapped_and_street_chi ldren/russian_scouts_and_the_children_that_they_support/9272-1-eng-GB/russian_scouts_and_the_children_that_they_support. jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Refugees_from_south_ossetia-alagir.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YenY8UqC3mc/S7tgGEio6bI/AAAAAAAAB58/453jsQzLKSk/s1600/DSC_2370+c.jpg

http://askural.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/P1030401.jpg

http://www.criticalissuesforum.org/FILES/CONF2007/CIF_conf_files/image013.jpg

http://www.peacetree.info/project/2006_1/a05.jpg

http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/russian-orthodox-faithful-in-church-1-e1271537256807.jpg?w=1200&h=799

http://russianlancashire.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/dsc002001.jpg

http://www.marasloks.lv/public//UserFiles/Image/marasloks/konference-latvijaa/kulturas/venedi/venedi-foto.JPG

http://www.pacificenvironment.org/img/original/Sosnovka%202005%20Group%20shot%20v1%20by%20DG.jpg

http://nicknlatvia.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/dsc05117.jpg

http://spareworld.org/eng/sites/default/files/images/P1010038.JPG

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2428/6a00e54f9153e0883301157.jpg
Good looking bunch of people! :) There was never any need for cherry picking nor glamour shots! :thumb001:

[Basil]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Refugees_from_south_ossetia-alagir.jpg

They aren't Russians obviously. Look at the name of the file.

[Olika]

зачем Вы обижа́етесь? они просто пытаются показать что эти фотографии не являются объективными потому что они показывают только самые светлые и "нордические" элементы русского народа.
я не обижаюсь.с чего ты взял?я лишь отвечаю на их выпады в мою сторону.это вообще не их дело какие фотографии я выставляю.

[Bridie]

я не обижаюсь.с чего ты взял?я лишь отвечаю на их выпады в мою сторону.это вообще не их дело какие фотографии я выставляю.I didn't attack you. You, on the other hand, called me a goat. :D

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14445&stc=1&d=1314983071http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14446&stc=1&d=1314983071http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14447&stc=1&d=1314983071http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14452&stc=1&d=1314983216http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14449&stc=1&d=1314983216
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14451&stc=1&d=1314983216
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14450&stc=1&d=1314983216

[Max]

She's posting ethnic Russians. Is not posting pictures of Tatars and Central Asians considered cherry picking?:coffee: Granted some of these people might be a little bit above average in terms of looks.

[d3cimat3d]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Refugees_from_south_ossetia-alagir.jpg


These are South Ossetians.

Read the link:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Refugees_from_south_ossetia-alagir.jpg

edit* ok someone already pointed that out.

[beaver]

These are South Ossetians.

Read the link:

absolutely, except maybe for the boy from the right side. But Heisenberg has posted also a lot of real average Russians (without picking out). My suggestion, this is some political website devoted to this event - the conflict between Georgia and Russia.

[Basil]

Here is a bunch of photos of absolutely ordinary students from Siberian Federal University (Krasnoyarsk):
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6647/normalimg9115.jpg
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4854/normalimg9092.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8673/normalimg9086.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6499/normalimg9081.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4179/normalimg9063.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3899/normalimg9037.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3210/normalimg9017.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/263/normalimg8978.jpg
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/44/normalimg8974.jpg
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1426/normalimg8966.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1481/normalimg8964.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9022/normalimg8958.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3854/normalimg8945.jpg
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5711/normalimg8913.jpg
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/3183/normalimg8904.jpg

[Basil]

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5752/normalimg8894.jpg
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7922/normalimg8875.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1448/normalimg8858.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2972/normalimg8846.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7303/normalimg8845.jpg
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3725/normalimg8829.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3219/normalimg8828.jpg
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5084/normalimg8821.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/394/normalimg8809.jpg
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5016/normalimg8795.jpg
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/2/normalimg8754.jpg
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1054/normalimg8744.jpg
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/888/normalimg6638.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2070/normalimg6623.jpg
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/3383/normalimg6618.jpg

[Basil]

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/9374/normalimg6571.jpg
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3900/normalimg6559.jpg
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3146/normalimg6475.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3981/normalimg6471.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2877/normalimg6405.jpg
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/7899/normalimg6393.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2142/normalimg6328.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/668/normalimg6298.jpg
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1194/normalimg6285.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2708/normalimg6278.jpg
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/9830/normalimg6266.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5109/normalimg6169.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1163/normalimg6162.jpg
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6469/normalimg6068.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3225/normalimg5988.jpg

[Basil]

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4226/normalimg5985.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1214/normalimg5982.jpg
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/941/normalimg5970.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3641/normalimg5948.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4730/normalimg5905.jpg
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/1264/normalimg5843.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4164/normalimg5815.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6177/normalimg5806.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5958/normalimg5789.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7676/normalimg5785.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1457/normalimg5771.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7213/normalimg5758.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2550/normalimg5750.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3972/normalimg5722.jpg
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2123/normalimg5709.jpg

[Basil]

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7880/normalimg5652.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2964/normalimg5565.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9392/normalimg5497.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/319/normalimg5468.jpg
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/6581/normalimg5465.jpg
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9510/normalimg5414.jpg
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1927/normalimg2029.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9880/normalimg2024.jpg
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6971/normalimg2000.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2033/normalimg1773.jpg
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8488/normalimg1759.jpg
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1429/normalimg1745.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5672/normalimg1543.jpg
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1584/normalimg1458.jpg
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2638/normalimg1457.jpg

[Basil]

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/8620/normalimg1110.jpg
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/381/normalimg0981.jpg
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4720/normalimg0980.jpg
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/7751/normalimg0974.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3668/normalimg0962.jpg

[Lisa]

http://russianlancashire.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/dsc002001.jpg
It's aliens. They are not pure Russian.
http://www.marasloks.lv/public//UserFiles/Image/marasloks/konference-latvijaa/kulturas/venedi/venedi-foto.JPG


Ukrainians - look for the flag in their hands and their clothes.

[Lisa]

http://s54.radikal.ru/i143/1109/01/dd1ee92c4158.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s59.radikal.ru/i163/1109/46/c5d8f2a14fb2.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s54.radikal.ru/i146/1109/7f/ee0a2003a24b.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://i041.radikal.ru/1109/4f/44fe2cc6eeca.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

[Mordid]

Russians are mostly Ost-Europid, Ponto-Nordid and Nordid in race, of the East variety. Pontid can also be found, but more so in the Southern Russia. At least it's not a major element as a whole or when compared to Ukraine. Ost-Alpinid are also common, but probably lesser important than these type.

Pred. Baltid:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14409&stc=1&d=1314969845
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14401&stc=1&d=1314969672
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14402&stc=1&d=1314969672

Pred. Pontid with East Alpinid direction:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14419&stc=1&d=1314972382

Pred. East Nordid:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14404&stc=1&d=1314969672

Pred. East Alpinid:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14413&stc=1&d=1314970749
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14425&stc=1&d=1314975273

[Hess]

Russians are mostly Ost-Europid, Ponto-Nordid and Nordid in race, of the East variety

don't forget to add East and West Baltid to that list.

[Mordid]

don't forget to add East and West Baltid to that list.

That's why I say Ost-Europid (West Baltid, Baltid, East Baltid).

[Hess]

That's why I say Ost-Europid (West Baltid, Baltid, East Baltid).

oh, got it. I was unfamilliar with the term.

[Mordid]

oh, got it. I was unfamilliar with the term.

For you (http://dodona.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=physanth&action=display&thread=7160&page=1). ;)

[Hess]

Some of my favorite russian actors

Bodrov (RIP)

http://st.kinopoisk.ru/im/kadr/1/2/7/kinopoisk.ru-Sergei-Bodrov-Jr-1271504.jpg

Mashkov
http://www.primissima.it/images/uploads/vladimir_mashkov.jpg

Menshikov
http://img.listal.com/image/1221329/600full-oleg-menshikov.jpg

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14532&stc=1&d=1315073550http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14538&stc=1&d=1315073550http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14533&stc=1&d=1315073550http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14534&stc=1&d=1315073550http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14535&stc=1&d=1315073550
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14537&stc=1&d=1315073550
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14536&stc=1&d=1315073550

[Basil]

Some of my favorite russian actors

Bodrov (RIP)

He has Tatar and Buryat roots from his paternal side.

Mashkov

It's not an accurate example either, since he is 1/4 Italian.

[Hess]

He has Tatar and Buryat roots from his paternal side.

It's not an accurate example either, since he is 1/4 Italian.

Sources?

[Mordid]

I don't understand why Russians try to represent themselves as some uber nordids on these boards.

[Hess]

Apparently, anyone who doesn't have Blue eyes and blond hair must have Tatar blood in him

[Basil]

Sources?

Bodrov's grandmother was ethnic Buryat which influenced his decision to film the movie Mongol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Bodrov

Even without bringing up certain facts about his family's origins his father looks quite Asian to my eye.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Sergei_Vladimirovich_Bodrov.jpg


As for Mashkov:
Отец его был актёром кукольного театра, а мать, итальянка по происхождению, работала режиссёром в том же театре.
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2,_%D0%92%D0%BB %D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80_%D0%9B%D1%8C% D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
Бабушка Владимира Машкова, итальянка по происхождению, приехала в Россию учительствовать. Здесь она вышла замуж и родила дочь Наталью, будущую маму Владимира.
http://rusakters.ru/mashkov-vladimir-2.html

[Austrvegr]

I don't understand why Russians try to represent themselves as some uber nordids on these boards.

Because we are.

:D

[Austrvegr]

Russian tennis players

Elena Dementieva


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Dementieva-Elena3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Dementieva-Elena2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Dementieva-Elena1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Dementieva-Elena4.jpg

[Austrvegr]

Alla Kudryavtseva

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Kudryavtseva-Alla1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Kudryavtseva-Alla2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Kudryavtseva-Alla3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Kudryavtseva-Alla4.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Kudryavtseva-Alla5.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Kudryavtseva-Alla6.jpg

[Austrvegr]

Svetlana Kuznetsova

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Kuznetsova-Svetlana1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Kuznetsova-Svetlana2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Kuznetsova-Svetlana3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Kuznetsova-Svetlana4.jpg

[Austrvegr]

Olga Puchkova

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Puchkova-Olga1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Puchkova-Olga2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Puchkova-Olga3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Puchkova-Olga4.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Puchkova-Olga5.jpg

[Austrvegr]

Maria Sharapova

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Sharapova-Maria4.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Sharapova-Maria3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Sharapova-Maria5.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Sharapova-Maria1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Sharapova-Maria2.jpg

[Austrvegr]

Anastasia Rodionova

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Rodionova-Anastasia2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Rodionova-Anastasia1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Rodionova-Anastasia3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Rodionova-Anastasia4.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/-aaabbb-/tennis-Rodionova-Anastasia5.jpg

[Saruman]

Female Nordids rule the Tennis world.:D

[Hess]

Bodrov's grandmother was ethnic Buryat which influenced his decision to film the movie Mongol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Bodrov

Even without bringing up certain facts about his family's origins his father looks quite Asian to my eye.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Sergei_Vladimirovich_Bodrov.jpg


As for Mashkov:
Отец его был актёром кукольного театра, а мать, итальянка по происхождению, работала режиссёром в том же театре.
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2,_%D0%92%D0%BB %D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80_%D0%9B%D1%8C% D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
Бабушка Владимира Машкова, итальянка по происхождению, приехала в Россию учительствовать. Здесь она вышла замуж и родила дочь Наталью, будущую маму Владимира.
http://rusakters.ru/mashkov-vladimir-2.html

I see, thanks for the information. I Had my doubts about Mashkov, but I was certain that Bodrov was fully Russian.

[Heisenberg]

Some athletes from russian team IAAF World Championships Daegu 2011.

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/13th+IAAF+World+Athletics+Championships+Daegu+segI dDmFVg5l.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Yuriy_Borzakovskiy_Turin_2009_cropped.JPG/200px-Yuriy_Borzakovskiy_Turin_2009_cropped.JPG

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46247000/jpg/_46247198_rybakov766.jpg

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Aleksander+Shustov+20th+European+Athletics+FJut90-Qheql.jpg

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51555000/jpg/_51555225_109789159_10.jpg

http://www.iaaf.org/mm/photo/competitions/worldchampionships/23048_w600xh400.jpg

http://www.european-athletics.org/files/eich/archive/madrid/women_high.jpg

http://i2.listal.com/image/1150496/936full-yelena-isinbayeva.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/zqxqa.jpg

http://rusathletics.com/nov/im/4257-b.jpg

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/evgeniya-polyakova-alexsandra-fedoriva-yulia-gushchina-and-yulia-chermoshanskaya-2008-olympic-games-day-16-track-field-h4sPVu.jpg

http://www.rusathletics.com/imgs/251-m.jpg

http://www.erfurt2005.org/jpg/drozdov_sysoyev_erfurt05_foto_gantenberg.jpg

http://www.gornovosti.ru/static/images/archive/2431/alexandr-menkov1.jpg

http://rusathletics.com/nov/im/2892-b.jpg

[Austrvegr]

Russian national female football team

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569108938008911.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/1285691115590073.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569112732007719.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569113872005771.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569116061007775.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569117412002733.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569118631007926.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/12856912176800545.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569123171008996.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569125146003475.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569125998006078.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569128083008693.jpg

[Onychodus]

Russians are mostly Ost-Europid, Ponto-Nordid and Nordid in race, of the East variety
dont forget about non-european races

[Olika]

Anna Kurnikova Russian professional tennis player
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14547&stc=1&d=1315132931http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14550&stc=1&d=1315132931http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14548&stc=1&d=1315132931http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14549&stc=1&d=1315132931

[Olika]

Russian national female football team

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569108938008911.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/1285691115590073.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569112732007719.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569113872005771.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569116061007775.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569117412002733.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569118631007926.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/12856912176800545.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569123171008996.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569125146003475.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569125998006078.jpg

http://forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569128083008693.jpg
http://s2.forumimage.ru/uploads/20100928/128569128083008693.jpg
it Becky Hammon she american!

[Austrvegr]

dont forget about non-european races

Russians do not have non-European races, my dear Kazakh friend.

[Austrvegr]

it Becky Hammon she american!

Sorry, I did not know.

[Hess]

Russians do not have non-European races, my dear Kazakh friend.

How do you know that he's a kazak?

[Onychodus]

Russians do not have non-European races, my dear Kazakh friend.

sorry, but some of them have it. have you ever been to siberia, dalny vostok, povolzhye or ural?

[Siberyak]

I once met a kid from Izhevsk Russia. He was one of the whitest people I have ever seen.

[Austrvegr]

How do you know that he's a kazak?

He has knowledge of Kazakh affairs that a non-Kazakh would not have.

[Austrvegr]

sorry, but some of them have it. have you ever been to siberia, dalny vostok, povolzhye or ural?

Yes, I have and have not seen any non-Europid Russians.

[Gaztelu]

This video shows the great diversity of Russian phenotypes.

However, some of the individuals featured in the video are obviously not ethnic Russians.

fNa7tNFB7c4

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14783&stc=1&d=1315379411http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14784&stc=1&d=1315379411http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14785&stc=1&d=1315379411http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14786&stc=1&d=1315379411

[Lisa]

http://s45.radikal.ru/i109/1109/6a/f65aa012dad3.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s014.radikal.ru/i328/1109/c9/bcf7c4f23ea7.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s44.radikal.ru/i105/1109/3a/f5e1c2ae7470.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s60.radikal.ru/i167/1109/e2/82a1d4afcef7.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s12.radikal.ru/i185/1109/e0/fbe3d14d4dfe.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s44.radikal.ru/i105/1109/2c/5cb14b5caf6d.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

[Austrvegr]

Actor Andrey Schukin

http://www.kino-teatr.ru/acter/album/238070/60930.jpg

http://www.kino-teatr.ru/acter/album/238070/60931.jpg

http://www.kino-teatr.ru/acter/album/238070/218448.jpg

The baddest redhead I have seen.

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15086&stc=1&d=1315735276
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15087&stc=1&d=1315735276

[chechen]

"Great" Red army
http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/002164/2164323.jpg

[jaroslaw]

"Great" Red army
http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/002164/2164323.jpgchechens...

[chechen]

chechens...

lol
Chechens served in the Red Army? is Russian. it is a fact and it is foolish to argue.

Chechens here:
http://cs567.vkontakte.ru/u24946374/98069428/x_5216a9c7.jpg

[jaroslaw]

"Russian" here only a machine gun: Р shut up muslim shit: Thumb001:

[Adrian]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/12/1/e12b49a6-9e94-49bb-8970-223e507898bd.jpg

[chechen]

"Russian" here only a machine gun: Р shut up muslim shit: Thumb001:

How do you give up your people? I lived in Samara and seen enough of Mongoloid Russian. it is a fact, and this artificial selection of photo with white Russian would not be able to deceive us.
Chechens are white. (skull found in the Caucas. Hitler believed that the real Aryans live in the Caucasus)
Russian is not white - it is a fact and it is foolish to argue with this

;)

[beaver]

"Russian" here only a machine gun

yeah, Degtyarev. Guys are Buryats most likely. I had suspicions initially that this is the Chinese Red Army but they couldn't pass for Chineses, they are natural central Mongols.
ps, not to dispute against this funny representative of the "small proud nation", this is just interesting.

[Humanophage]

How do you give up your people? I lived in Samara and seen enough of Mongoloid Russian. it is a fact, and this artificial selection of photo with white Russian would not be able to deceive us.
Chechens are white. (skull found in the Caucas. Hitler believed that the real Aryans live in the Caucasus)
Russian is not white - it is a fact and it is foolish to argue with this

;)
Amusingly enough, Adygei have slightly higher East Asian admixtures (3.1% Northeast Asian and 2.4% Southeast Asian) than Russians do (3.4% Northeast Asian and 0.8% Southeast Asian). The Adygei are more comparable to Northern Russians from Vologda, who are tied to local Finno-Ugrics (6.3% Northeast Asian and 1% Southeast Asian). The figures are lower for Lezgins, however (1.8% Northeast Asian and 0.4% Southeast Asian). Though I, being Russian, have marginally lower figures than the Lezgin average (2.1% Northeast Asian and 0.16% Southeast Asian).

In general, both native Caucasians and Russians have negligible "Mongoloid" influences. West Asian influences, on the other hand, dominate all native Caucasian nations.

[Olika]

"Great" Red army
http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/002164/2164323.jpg
of course it chechens)it not Russians!

[Olika]

Andrey Bukhlitskiy
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15143&stc=1&d=1315843831
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15144&stc=1&d=1315843831http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15145&stc=1&d=1315843831http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15147&stc=1&d=1315843831http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15146&stc=1&d=1315843831

[Humanophage]

lol
Chechens served in the Red Army? is Russian. it is a fact and it is foolish to argue.

Chechens here:
http://cs567.vkontakte.ru/u24946374/98069428/x_5216a9c7.jpg
By the way, where did you take the data about his ethnicity? It is claimed here that he is Georgian (Svanetian):
http://www.balto-slavica.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=566&st=3680&p=74098&#entry74098

Do you have his name or did you take the photograph elsewhere? The whole situation reminds me of the confusion with this gentleman:
http://nacsk.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/portret02.jpg

First, Chechens were using him as a Nazi Chechen posterboy. Then it was pointed out that he was a Cossack, judging by the uniform, and probably Russian. Finally, it was discovered that he is a certain Baron von Wolf, a German leader of Cossacks.

[Lisa]

How do you give up your people? I lived in Samara and seen enough of Mongoloid Russian. it is a fact, and this artificial selection of photo with white Russian would not be able to deceive us.
Chechens are white. (skull found in the Caucas. Hitler believed that the real Aryans live in the Caucasus)
Russian is not white - it is a fact and it is foolish to argue with this

;)
This is Russian. But one guy is not a Russian. He is Caucasian clothes is really mongoloid ... :rolleyes2:
http://i036.radikal.ru/1109/54/71cca9d081ca.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

[Black Sun Dimension]

Russians are my favorite european ethnicity.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9430/iloverussiatshirtp23597.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/iloverussiatshirtp23597.jpg/)

The world needs more russians.

[Olika]

By the way, where did you take the data about his ethnicity? It is claimed here that he is Georgian (Svanetian):
http://www.balto-slavica.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=566&st=3680&p=74098&#entry74098

Do you have his name or did you take the photograph elsewhere? The whole situation reminds me of the confusion with this gentleman:
http://nacsk.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/portret02.jpg

First, Chechens were using him as a Nazi Chechen posterboy. Then it was pointed out that he was a Cossack, judging by the uniform, and probably Russian. Finally, it was discovered that he is a certain Baron von Wolf, a German leader of Cossacks.
it topic is not about chechens...create topic about cheсhens and you will discuss them as you like.

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15212&stc=1&d=1315937917http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15216&stc=1&d=1315937917
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15214&stc=1&d=1315937917http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15215&stc=1&d=1315937917

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15257&stc=1&d=1316102252http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15263&stc=1&d=1316102252http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15258&stc=1&d=1316102252http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15259&stc=1&d=1316102252http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15260&stc=1&d=1316102252http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15261&stc=1&d=1316102252http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15262&stc=1&d=1316102252
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15267&stc=1&d=1316102657

[beaver]

http://i043.radikal.ru/1109/75/94c45ae6f9f2.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
Dinamo, the city of Kirov (Vyatka). There can be 2-3 Tatars/Bashkirs among them (the regions are close). But the team is not great, so all of them are more or less native.

PS, this is the North-East Russia (meaning the East European plain).

[Austrvegr]

Chechens are white. (skull found in the Caucas. Hitler believed that the real Aryans live in the Caucasus)
Russian is not white - it is a fact and it is foolish to argue with this
;)

Allah will punish you for racism.

:mad:

[beaver]

http://www.fcdinamokirov.ru/2010/tabl10.php
forwards of this team. (absolutely all forwards without any picking out, all surnames are true Russian). I've been surprised that there are no Tatar forwards in the team, but Tatar faces are present. :D

Sorokin:
http://s005.radikal.ru/i210/1109/1d/89a649e57fba.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Ogorodnikov:
http://s53.radikal.ru/i139/1109/d2/5e2e757d40cd.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Minkov:
http://s52.radikal.ru/i137/1109/90/d2d463631235.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Halyavin:
http://s51.radikal.ru/i131/1109/15/cbaae2ec75c9.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Dontsov:
http://i058.radikal.ru/1109/74/3b5253b15d0d.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Balezin:
http://s011.radikal.ru/i317/1109/5d/0b3d48d1b421.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

[Humanophage]

Minkov:
http://s52.radikal.ru/i137/1109/90/d2d463631235.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

This gentleman looks even more odd with longer hair:
http://goal.net.ua/foto/player/player_699.jpg

Very, very odd. Sorokin is fairly unusual as well, but to a smaller degree.

[beaver]

Very, very odd.
He is more than odd to me (Minkov) but I posted ALL FORWARDS of the team without any picking out.

ps, he is a typical Bashkir of course (with Russian surname), not even a Tatar.

[Black Sun Dimension]

Are these bombshells counted as part of the russian military?

[chechen]

Allah will punish you for racism.

:mad:

I'm not racist but the facts say. You humiliated the word "not white".
you racist?

[chechen]

http://www.fcdinamokirov.ru/2010/tabl10.php
forwards of this team. (absolutely all forwards without any picking out, all surnames are true Russian). I've been surprised that there are no Tatar forwards in the team, but Tatar faces are present. :D



Minkov:
http://s52.radikal.ru/i137/1109/90/d2d463631235.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)





tipical russian:)

[Austrvegr]

I'm not racist but the facts say. You humiliated the word "not white".
you racist?

I am amused by a non-white calling me non-white.

[Austrvegr]

tipical russian:)

If I saw him in the street I would think his name is Maga or something.

[Cail]

tipical russian:)

Иди ишака трахни, чурка ебаная.

Sorry, that's the only way to argue with people like this. Except punching them in the face.

[beaver]

Are these bombshells counted as part of the russian military?
Dinamo was a police (милиция) club initially if this is what you mean. These guys are just professional football-players in Dinamo now.

[Black Sun Dimension]

Dinamo was a police (милиция) club initially if this is what you mean. These guys are just professional football-players in Dinamo now.

I was talking about this type of bombshell. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bombshell)

[beaver]

If I saw him in the street I would think his name is Maga or something.

once more:


ps, he is a typical Bashkir of course (with Russian surname), not even a Tatar.

but this is just my opinion while "all forwards of Dinamo (Kirov)" - is a dry "scientific" result. Don't you feel a difference?


Иди ишака трахни, чурка ебаная.

Calm down, hot Finnish guys :D Chechen is not even Chechen IMO.

[beaver]

I was talking about this type of bombshell.
I'm surely too stupid to catch your point.

[chechen]

I am amused by a non-white calling me non-white.

Chechens are white. Hitler believed that the original Aryans were the Chechens.
Ancient skull found in the Caucasus. besides the Chechens have never mixed with anyone. Mongol-Tatar yoke, spared us as a party.

in the Waffen SS fought many Chechens against the non-white Russian . it is a fact and it is foolish to argue:)

[Olika]

Russians hockey players

Aleksei Morozov
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15296&stc=1&d=1316193804
Ilya Nikulin & Dmitri Kalinin
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15295&stc=1&d=1316193804
Maksim Afinogenov
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15298&stc=1&d=1316194047
Aleksei Emelin
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15299&stc=1&d=1316194047
Evgeny Artyukhin
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15300&stc=1&d=1316194047
Konstantin Korneev
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15301&stc=1&d=1316194047
Vitaly Atyushov
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15302&stc=1&d=1316194047

[beaver]

Russians hockey players
more or less normal spectrum, I think

[Seeker]

Chechens are white. Hitler believed that the original Aryans were the Chechens.
Ancient skull found in the Caucasus. besides the Chechens have never mixed with anyone. Mongol-Tatar yoke, spared us as a party.

in the Waffen SS fought many Chechens against the non-white Russian . it is a fact and it is foolish to argue:)

-Who cares about Hitler, and what does it make you think that this forum is dedicated to Hitler or other nazi crap?

Why dont you just leave this forum ? There are so many fora out there to troll.

[Sikeliot]

This thread is about Russians, not Chechens. Stay on topic you guys.

[Princess of Heaven]

some Russians

http://englishrussia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_9231-1024x768.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NfsdvUxYGkI/TKIJlAaeMtI/AAAAAAAAYKw/WGWfede9gbM/s1600/DSC09490.jpg

http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/russian_mishkas_band-3.jpg?w=1331&h=998

http://www.bliki.com/newbaby/result%20051.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZG-_yWBemZ0/TbMnS3CalzI/AAAAAAAAAwQ/B68c2XyuHa8/s1600/Paskha%2B048.JPG

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NJd0pYUa1U0/TEeOmbN7Z3I/AAAAAAAAFtg/UBLNCd9aOMI/s1600/russian_girls.jpg

http://www.eyeassociates.com/Speciual%20olymp%20russians%20%20143.jpg

http://www.dannyrubino.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Russian_Wedding.jpg

[Max]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30288&highlight=moscow+dynamo

All are Russian except for Darius(Lithuanian)

[Kassandros]

8wQmmhN5R-Y

[Olika]

8wQmmhN5R-Y
what?he not Russian.

[Lisa]

...

[Lisa]

more or less normal spectrum, I think

I think they are not all the typical Russian. As in other some pictures here

[Lisa]

http://i034.radikal.ru/1109/3e/82098c844bf9.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s13.radikal.ru/i186/1109/30/bfeaee5eb87a.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://i072.radikal.ru/1109/8e/eab85c21de18.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s45.radikal.ru/i108/1109/99/2a9783e57335.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s56.radikal.ru/i151/1109/f8/ffbac4b18a8e.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

[chechen]

are all beautiful and glamorous. can we begin to post people in the streets without self-censorship? nothing to admiration. it would be more honest.
I can help you with this

[chechen]

http://i034.radikal.ru/1109/3e/82098c844bf9.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)


not mislead us. there is no guarantee that these people are descendants of the Swedes or the Caucasian tribes:wink

[Don]

"Great" Red army
http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/002164/2164323.jpg

What the fuck is doing an islamic scum insulting russians in an european preservation forum?

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15396&stc=1&d=1316343694http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15397&stc=1&d=1316343694
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15401&stc=1&d=1316343694
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15398&stc=1&d=1316343694http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15399&stc=1&d=1316343694http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15400&stc=1&d=1316343694

[qwerty7]

USSR TV. program "Time"

http://radikal.ru/F/i018.radikal.ru/1106/2f/c6cc5cf745f7.jpg

http://radikal.ru/F/s011.radikal.ru/i316/1101/de/5a9903d747cb.jpg

http://screenshots.etvnet.com/000/024/889/b01.jpg

http://radikal.ru/F/s016.radikal.ru/i336/1101/95/afaac78a5816.jpg

http://img.1tvrus.com/2007-09-24/fmt_53_utr_pochta37_2.png

tipical american look?

[beaver]

USSR TV. program "Time"
Maslachenko (the second pic) has Ukrainian surname and very Tatar/Uralic look. And he was really one of the most adorable football commentators in SU. The last (Yuri Nikolaev) - Russian surname but somewhat odd look for a Russian. The others are quite normal Russians.

[Austrvegr]

are all beautiful and glamorous. can we begin to post people in the streets without self-censorship? nothing to admiration. it would be more honest.
I can help you with this

You can help us by leaving for good this European preservation board, Middle Eastern Muslim.

;)

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15559&stc=1&d=1316543229http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15560&stc=1&d=1316543229http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15561&stc=1&d=1316543229http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15562&stc=1&d=1316543229http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15563&stc=1&d=1316543229http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15564&stc=1&d=1316543229

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15572&stc=1&d=1316543641http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15565&stc=1&d=1316543641
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15573&stc=1&d=1316543689
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15567&stc=1&d=1316543689http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15568&stc=1&d=1316543689http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15569&stc=1&d=1316543689
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15574&stc=1&d=1316543689
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15570&stc=1&d=1316543689
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15571&stc=1&d=1316543689

[Austrvegr]

Rural Russians from Vologda Region (from which the sample used in all autosomal studies comes)

http://img11.nnm.ru/a/6/d/6/d/23a4bd7e0b530e92791131baa4a.jpg

http://img15.nnm.ru/1/a/c/4/a/94db1951baa72bb19c06b54c3c7.jpg

http://img15.nnm.ru/8/8/d/2/7/e715e39a95fe600d2edf68ab17c.jpg

http://img15.nnm.ru/9/d/2/4/6/60ae38ebf9d3235c28dcb7d4e71.jpg

http://img15.nnm.ru/2/8/6/1/d/747c82e822d8884b01ce2ab0335.jpg

http://img11.nnm.ru/c/b/8/6/7/f0d32a6ab1ec07efc61caea4210.jpg

http://img15.nnm.ru/0/2/f/b/e/7404d2574cd333ff9c1356cf216.jpg

http://img11.nnm.ru/7/c/9/8/a/cbb1eecd06350e63f908cf5ea35.jpg

http://img11.nnm.ru/9/d/3/f/b/e65d879b810bbc0efb706de8fd7.jpg

http://img15.nnm.ru/7/6/0/9/5/7d70776dfa828ab5940f40be767.jpg

[Austrvegr]

http://img11.nnm.ru/a/4/e/7/f/ed326d4b7433dfc4f52fb19e04d.jpg

http://img15.nnm.ru/d/e/a/b/3/2ab96cdc4f48388b8e9499972a0.jpg

http://img11.nnm.ru/d/2/e/3/5/49ba543e27007872741245e48d7.jpg

http://img11.nnm.ru/7/2/7/2/8/cd4f743decf5e30227dcac04d3c.jpg

http://img15.nnm.ru/9/c/b/4/b/cbe3e0187027a23f24796510313.jpg

http://img15.nnm.ru/a/e/9/5/e/7bac2852f781611dc9b9526ed0e.jpg

http://img11.nnm.ru/c/b/9/a/1/358cad1db8c99e60b3ce0518b7d.jpg

http://img11.nnm.ru/b/6/d/b/0/14fc39dbdd4f92559b84e4ff46f.jpg

http://img11.nnm.ru/9/7/8/2/6/229da0021142c14fdcdf168f2e4.jpg

http://img11.nnm.ru/c/d/0/b/f/420f995ad7edca3a2bb1a833e22.jpg

[Austrvegr]

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6062/6056194839_9fa061e7a5_o.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6087/6056197679_5e78b04d0c_o.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6188/6056744688_8a374ddf04_o.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6201/6056748734_e688ac8e73_o.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6197/6056199595_51a1fc7aa0_o.jpg

http://img15.nnm.ru/2/d/9/6/9/ac8d84056b2f92a1cc0a0f8d465.jpg

http://img11.nnm.ru/b/d/f/f/5/ec3ee87b7c4b7ec94d056902658.jpg

http://img11.nnm.ru/2/6/b/3/6/d0bd09f64cc828ea3eafe38334d.jpg

http://img15.nnm.ru/1/1/6/0/f/739643815687928afd0886386cb.jpg

http://img15.nnm.ru/d/6/7/c/d/c05921478993773619a62816b33.jpg

[Austrvegr]

http://s07.radikal.ru/i180/1008/5f/2f0d796f3659.jpg

http://s58.radikal.ru/i160/1008/c6/143580377f2a.jpg

http://s57.radikal.ru/i155/1008/c3/d8b6900fd388.jpg

http://s43.radikal.ru/i099/1008/ce/9cc0df97dc95.jpg

http://s47.radikal.ru/i115/1008/c4/78a3f638a44a.jpg

http://s41.radikal.ru/i092/1008/ef/05821f6178ff.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6187/6056795758_0e5ac17a6b_o.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6063/6056795292_e563ffa903_o.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6067/6056199121_1ecda36f9a_o.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6085/6056195237_e5e036b74c_o.jpg

[Austrvegr]

http://s46.radikal.ru/i113/1008/d8/03281e219ec3.jpg

http://s40.radikal.ru/i090/1008/c3/20ce6a904bd5.jpg

http://s60.radikal.ru/i167/1008/1f/17148d44816a.jpg

http://s54.radikal.ru/i145/1008/fe/4fba627b69a5.jpg

http://s002.radikal.ru/i197/1008/91/1c7df25f17a6.jpg

http://s47.radikal.ru/i116/1008/2e/4254350caacc.jpg

http://s46.radikal.ru/i114/1008/19/88bbcf35a523.jpg

http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/o/l/olya_ivanova/anya.jpg

http://s03.radikal.ru/i176/1008/c5/8c1d766a61c5.jpg

http://img11.nnm.ru/5/7/c/5/8/3996fdf5e35b55be10307f300d6.jpg

[Mordid]

They are very similiar to Slovakians.

[qwerty7]

surprising if they were not like the Slovaks.
belong to the same race, and in large cases to one subrace

[Olika]

They are very similiar to Slovakians.
Slavic people are similar to each other.

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15759&stc=1&d=1317142273http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15760&stc=1&d=1317142273http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15761&stc=1&d=1317142273http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15762&stc=1&d=1317142273
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15764&stc=1&d=1317142273
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15763&stc=1&d=1317142273

[qwerty7]

http://studspb.ru/images/vuzi/SPBGUP/9.JPG

http://studspb.ru/images/vuzi/SPBGUP/7.jpg

http://www.gsom.spbu.ru/foto/2009_08_31_1_year/2009_08_31_1_year_019.jpg

[Olika]

bxX0svXn5so

[Olika]

QXA_IXAL3jk

[Olika]

6efCTD9qQxs

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15892&stc=1&d=1317493596http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15893&stc=1&d=1317493596http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15894&stc=1&d=1317493665

[Ivanushka-supertzar]

Slavic people are similar to each other.

That's not true. Even Russians are not really similar to each other, leave alone homogenous.

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15914&stc=1&d=1317552389http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15915&stc=1&d=1317552389http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15916&stc=1&d=1317552389http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15917&stc=1&d=1317552389http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15918&stc=1&d=1317552389

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15977&stc=1&d=1317666451http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15979&stc=1&d=1317666451http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15978&stc=1&d=1317666451http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15985&stc=1&d=1317666451http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15980&stc=1&d=1317666451http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15981&stc=1&d=1317666451http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15982&stc=1&d=1317666451http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15984&stc=1&d=1317666451

[research_centre]

She's posting ethnic Russians. Is not posting pictures of Tatars and Central Asians considered cherry picking?:coffee: Granted some of these people might be a little bit above average in terms of looks.

Damn straight, and anyway these people are absolutely beautiful. I rather look at beauty over ugly any day of the week.:thumb001:

[qwerty7]

http://staskulesh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/nz_rwc_russian_national_rugby_team_rotorua_IMG_172 2.jpg

[chechen]

tipical russian
http://cs10874.vkontakte.ru/u61917458/133781812/x_d4551ffd.jpg

[Olika]

tipical russian
http://cs10874.vkontakte.ru/u61917458/133781812/x_d4551ffd.jpg
he chechen.

[Olika]

-B1S1nkSatY

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16063&stc=1&d=1317990468
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16070&stc=1&d=1317990719
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16064&stc=1&d=1317990468http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16065&stc=1&d=1317990468http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16066&stc=1&d=1317990468http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16067&stc=1&d=1317990468http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16068&stc=1&d=1317990468http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16069&stc=1&d=1317990468
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16071&stc=1&d=1317991801

[Money Shot]

Where are the pics of the russians over the age of 40?


Ooops, I forgot, most don't live that long, with the alcoholism, drug and tobacco usage...

[Olika]

Where are the pics of the russians over the age of 40?


Ooops, I forgot, most don't live that long, with the alcoholism, drug and tobacco usage...
what is this nonsense!open eyes!or you have vision problems

[Ivanushka-supertzar]

Where are the pics of the russians over the age of 40?


Ooops, I forgot, most don't live that long, with the alcoholism, drug and tobacco usage...

better die young than live til 47 being retarded worthless scumbag. :thumbs up

[Hess]

You should post more pics of Dark haired and brown eyed Russians. It's not like they don't exist.

[Money Shot]

better die young than live til 47 being retarded worthless scumbag. :thumbs up



That's funny, being called a retarded worthless scumbag by a russian. :D


Just poking at you all...:p

[Mordid]

You should post more pics of Dark haired and brown eyed Russians. It's not like they don't exist.

Here we go again...

[qwerty7]

You should post more pics of Dark haired and brown eyed Russians. It's not like they don't exist.
black Russian

http://cs11333.vkontakte.ru/u78258485/-6/x_f016da7e.jpg

http://cs5401.vkontakte.ru/u31197858/-6/x_4bab76e8.jpg

http://cs11165.vkontakte.ru/u31197858/-6/x_f54c4723.jpg

http://cs4325.vkontakte.ru/u59819186/135515709/x_e7b88af1.jpg

[Burgomaster]

You should post more pics of Dark haired and brown eyed Russians. It's not like they don't exist.

I agree. Although I'm aware there are plenty of blond/blue eyed Russians, the majority tend to be quite dark. I want to see photographs of average looking Russians!

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16180&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16170&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16171&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16172&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16173&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16174&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16175&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16176&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16177&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16178&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16179&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16181&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16182&stc=1&d=1318077025http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16183&stc=1&d=1318077025

[hajduk]

I agree. Although I'm aware there are plenty of blond/blue eyed Russians, the majority tend to be quite dark. I want to see photographs of average looking Russians!

its the opposite

[qwerty7]

I agree. Although I'm aware there are plenty of blond/blue eyed Russians, the majority tend to be quite dark. I want to see photographs of average looking Russians!

level of light hair and eyes among the Russian higher than "average" in Europe.
Russian dark are very rare.

hair color among Russian = hair color among the Germans. (most of the brown hair).

[Lisa]

black Russian

http://cs11333.vkontakte.ru/u78258485/-6/x_f016da7e.jpg

http://cs5401.vkontakte.ru/u31197858/-6/x_4bab76e8.jpg

She not ethnic Russian . Кстати я немного про вас Вад... узнала ....

[Hess]

She not ethnic Russian

then what is she?

[Mordid]

then what is she?

According to Nero, blonde hair and light eyes = Russian.

[The Alchemist]

I think in Russia there are big differences between all the areas. I'm personally never been there but i saw enormous differences among russian people, also in the same zone...For example, the new girlfriend of my cousin is native of Moscow (she says all her origins are there), but she looks very "esotic", almost asian...She's got dark brown hair, brown almond eyes, tiny figure....she told me she's common over there. Anyway i find her very pretty and nice, smart person :thumb001:

[qwerty7]

She not ethnic Russian . Кстати я немного про вас Вад... узнала ....

European appearance .. well among Russian as well have brown eyes black hair. These people have quite an Italian appearance.that you do not like?:)

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16257&stc=1&d=1318256643http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16252&stc=1&d=1318256643http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16253&stc=1&d=1318256643http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16254&stc=1&d=1318256643http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16255&stc=1&d=1318256643http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16256&stc=1&d=1318256643

[hajduk]

She not ethnic Russian . Кстати я немного про вас Вад... узнала ....

She look russian and she is very pretty
Many russians look like this girl, not the majority, but..l

[Hess]

She look russian and she is very pretty
Many russians look like this girl, not the majority, but..

As someone who was born in Russia and still goes there every one or two years, I would say about 10-15% of Russians look like her.

[beaver]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nero View Post
She not ethnic Russian
then what is she?
I agree with Nero here, IMHO she's rather Ukrainian/Moldavanian. But the pigmentation is quite possible for all Russian subpopulations (I agree in the point with Hess).

[Basil]

There are two different girls if my eyes don't deceive me. No questions about the last one. But the first one is very atypical. She looks Jewish to me or like someone from the Caucasus.

[beaver]

There are two different girls if my eyes don't deceive me. No questions about the last one. But the first one is very atypical. She looks Jewish to me or like someone from the Caucasus.
I meant the second one :)

[Basil]

I meant the second one :)
She could pass for Ukrainian but more likely she is a Cossack woman. Even in South Central Russia (Kursk for example) she wouldn't stick out in the crowd imo.

[Mordid]

She not ethnic Russian . Кстати я немного про вас Вад... узнала ....
If they were blonde and light eyes, you woudn't say otherwise.


I think in Russia there are big differences between all the areas. I'm personally never been there but i saw enormous differences among russian people, also in the same zone...For example, the new girlfriend of my cousin is native of Moscow (she says all her origins are there), but she looks very "esotic", almost asian...She's got dark brown hair, brown almond eyes, tiny figure....she told me she's common over there. Anyway i find her very pretty and nice, smart person


Pole women seem to have a quiet robust body, compared to western women...Don't you think?? Most of them seem to be tall, too. Most pole women i know are usually blond, but men more brown maybe. I don't know, maybe just stereotypes :)
The ones i met had very more blonde and few light-brunettes...maybe just a case.I never saw one with very dark hair or skin. Yes, most of eastern european women are more robust than western, broad shoulders...but not much round faces, more sharp facial features....I say again, it's referred to the ones i met.
Haha, Russians are not as homogeneous as Poles.

[beaver]

She could pass for Ukrainian but more likely she is a Cossack woman. Even in South Central Russia (Kursk for example) she wouldn't stick out in the crowd imo.
I agree that she would be more or less usual in Kursk but my first suggestion would have been not even Ukrainian (and I'm talking not about the pigmentation). Btw I've missed the first girl because Mozilla downloads first latest pics :)

[Humanophage]

I agree. Although I'm aware there are plenty of blond/blue eyed Russians, the majority tend to be quite dark. I want to see photographs of average looking Russians!
That isn't true at all, the majority tend to be quite light. Light eyes are certainly prevalent (over 50%), and why would anyone expect a different thing from an ethnicity with one of the highest (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArAJcY18g2GadDZBNmxiWG45WDBJNHlrN1YzMFBKR Wc&hl=en_US#gid=0) Atlanto-Baltic elements in Europe? Moreover, some are bottle blondes, but the hue fits the rest of their pigmentation and doesn't look too odd.

I searched for random eye colour polls at Russian forums, and here are some sizeable results:
395 votes - fantasy forum: http://www.dragonlance.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=2452
Blue: 14.14%
Grey: 22.47%
Green: 24.75%
Brown: 26.52%
Black: 6.06%
Unspecified: 5.81%

468 - miscellanea: http://www.gratis.pp.ru/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=5514&s=
Blue: 17.09%
Grey: 11.97%
Green: 27.78%
Brown: 35.90%
Black: 2.56%
Unspecified: 4.70%

410 - woman forum: http://girls-only.org/7031365.html
Blue, grey or green: 66.2%
Brown: 23.3%
Unspecified: 15.3%

214 - woman forum: http://club.passion.ru/viewtopic.php?t=113552&sid=
Grey or grey-blue: 29%
Grey-blue-green: 23%
Dark green or green-brown: 23%
Brown: 7%
Dark brown: 14%

391 - psychological test site: http://aeterna.qip.ru/poll/result/27786/
Grey and blue: 42%
Green: 13%
Light brown and brown-green: 14%
Brown and dark brown: 25%
Unspecified: 2%


The raw picture is something like this (removed unspecified/joke votes):
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/RusEyeColour1.jpg

One should consider that most ethnic minorities in Russia have significantly darker eyes, so one should account for this in polls. Even Ukrainians are slightly darker, while Balts and Finns largely never post at Russian forums, so Belarusians are the only option, and they are hardly numerous.


European appearance .. well among Russian as well have brown eyes black hair. These people have quite an Italian appearance.that you do not like?
Very few unadmixed Russians look specifically Italian, except if we are talking Italians who can fit anywhere in Europe rather than the darker types. In general, the occasional exotic Russian looks so because of 'Volgaic' elements in cranial structure, not because of dark pigmentation.

[Mordid]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16181&stc=1&d=1318077025
The guy on right looks very East Slavic.

Even though, this guy is German, he looks pretty East Slavic.
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/5900000/Max-max-riemelt-5966695-300-400.jpg
http://www.youngmalecelebs.net/galleries/riemelt/Riemelt018.jpg
http://www.monstersandcritics.de/downloads/downloads/articles2/75371/article_images/image3_1208544187.jpg

[qwerty7]

Haha, Russians are not as homogeneous as Poles.


Poles also mixed. in his theme of "person race in Poland" you have demonstrated this with your photo ..;)

[qwerty7]

I agree with Nero here, IMHO she's rather Ukrainian/Moldavanian. But the pigmentation is quite possible for all Russian subpopulations (I agree in the point with Hess).

in the other photos she looks quite "Slavic":
http://cs10522.vkontakte.ru/u31197858/-6/x_f7842e68.jpg

[hajduk]

As someone who was born in Russia and still goes there every one or two years, I would say about 10-15% of Russians look like her.

Lets say that the biggest touristic group in Bulgaria are the Russians, and my observation on them is good.

[The Alchemist]

If they were blonde and light eyes, you woudn't say otherwise.




Haha, Russians are not as homogeneous as Poles.

I agree. Russia is very big and of course there's a big variety of people of subraces. I know many people from Russia and they look all different (also people from the same city). It's undeniable. Anyway i find nothing wrong being brunette with brown eyes, don't shame about yourself!!

[Mordid]

I agree. Russia is very big and of course there's a big variety of people of subraces. I know many people from Russia and they look all different (also people from the same city). It's undeniable. Anyway i find nothing wrong being brunette with brown eyes, don't shame about yourself!!

I agree. I still dont understand why Russians try to represent themselves as some uber depigmented on these boards. :rolleyes:

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16268&stc=1&d=1318271285http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16269&stc=1&d=1318271285http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16270&stc=1&d=1318271285http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16271&stc=1&d=1318271285http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16272&stc=1&d=1318271285http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16273&stc=1&d=1318271285

[Hess]

Lets say that the biggest touristic group in Bulgaria are the Russians, and my observation on them is good.

Well, I was agreeing with you. 10-15% is a good number- it means that every 10th Russian looks like her.

[Max]

Well, I was agreeing with you. 10-15% is a good number- it means that every 10th Russian looks like her.

Hess its more like 25% of the total Russian population and if we removed the churkas and other immigrants it would be about 40%. Light features are very common among ethnic Russians. Its really hard for me to believe that you have actually spend any time in Russia and still pick obvious immigrants to be "average" Russians. Especially in a melting pot like Moscow:coffee:


I think in Russia there are big differences between all the areas. I'm personally never been there but i saw enormous differences among russian people, also in the same zone...For example, the new girlfriend of my cousin is native of Moscow (she says all her origins are there), but she looks very "esotic", almost asian...She's got dark brown hair, brown almond eyes, tiny figure....she told me she's common over there. Anyway i find her very pretty and nice, smart person :thumb001:She is lying about being a native Russian. She is either an immigrant from central asia or she has a recent relative from there but she isn't lying about being "quite common" over there. Moscow is freaking crawling with them:( She can call herself anything she wants but she is not my kind.

[Hess]

Hess its more like 25% of the total Russian population and if we removed the churkas and other immigrants it would be about 40%. Light features are very common among ethnic Russians. Its really hard for me to believe that you have actually spend any time in Russia and still pick obvious immigrants to be "average" Russians. Especially in a melting pot like Moscow:coffee:

ты меня не понял :p

I meant that 10-15 percent of Ethnic Russians have dark hair/brown eyes- everyone else is lighter.

[Max]

ты меня не понял :p

i meant that 10-15 percent of ethnic russians have dark hair/brown eyes- everyone else is lighter.

Ах понятно. Ну я не согласен что только 15%... Я думаю где то 50/50

[Hess]

Ах понятно. Ну я не согласен что только 15%... Я думаю где то 50/50

I think a lot of it depends on the region. People from Moskva and Peter tend to be lighter than people from the Southern parts. I go to Moscow a lot because I still have relatives there and I can't blend in, But the time I went to Rostov most people people mistook for a Russian with Ukrainian blood (which is very common for Russian cities bordering Ukraine) :shrug:

[hajduk]

So you're telling me the girl is not russian? what she is? caucas - armenian chechen?

[The Alchemist]

Hess its more like 25% of the total Russian population and if we removed the churkas and other immigrants it would be about 40%. Light features are very common among ethnic Russians. Its really hard for me to believe that you have actually spend any time in Russia and still pick obvious immigrants to be "average" Russians. Especially in a melting pot like Moscow:coffee:

She is lying about being a native Russian. She is either an immigrant from central asia or she has a recent relative from there but she isn't lying about being "quite common" over there. Moscow is freaking crawling with them:( She can call herself anything she wants but she is not my kind.
Ok, she could be a liar or not (i have to say her family is quiet rich and lives in the center of Moscow, that's sure cause my family visited her), but she explained me the history of last centuries in Russia, she's not ignorant so i trust her: native slavics were once fairy, light skinned and "typical slavic", but in the last centuries with all invasions of extra-european they've become darker and more "exotic", especially more asian-looking. So i asked her: "So, are most russians (europeans) more light or dark??" and she told me "half and half". She's got no reason to lie with me i think. I didn't study the history of Russia but i trust her. I have another friend from European Russia, Oxana, who's got black eyes, round face and light brown hair. Few blondes, i have to say. Anyway i find nothing wrong with it, they're serious person and i like their company :thumb001:

[Wadjet Horus]

but in the last centuries with all invasions of extra-european they've become darker and more "exotic", especially more asian-looking. So i asked her: "So, are most russians (europeans) more light or dark??"

No east asians invaded Russia, ever. Probably the muslims, but they are never part east asian. Russians are not a race, like americans. There are siberian states in the federation, racially they are not slave but siberians. When talk about race, use slav not russian.

[Basil]

I think a lot of it depends on the region. People from Moskva and Peter tend to be lighter than people from the Southern parts. I go to Moscow a lot because I still have relatives there and I can't blend in, But the time I went to Rostov most people people mistook for a Russian with Ukrainian blood (which is very common for Russian cities bordering Ukraine) :shrug:
South Russians aren't that dark as some imagine.
Just to end all speculations on that matter, here are the data on hair and eye colour of the South Russians aka Don Cossacks:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1584/bunakdon11.jpg
hair (n 250)
black - 8 (3,2%)
dark brown - 53 (21,2%)
red - 6 (2,4%)
light to medium brown - 91 (36,4%)
dark blond - 63 (25,2%)
blond - 29 (11,6%)
eyes (n 250)
black - 4 (1,6%)
brown - 28 (11,2%)
yellow-green - 32 (12,8%)
green - 33 (13,2%)
grey-green - 27 (10,8%)
light grey - 76 (30,4%)
blue - 45 (18%)
dark blue - 5 (2%)

[The Alchemist]

No east asians invaded Russia, ever. Probably the muslims, but they are never part east asian. Russians are not a race, like americans. There are siberian states in the federation, racially they are not slave but siberians. When talk about race, use slav not russian.
What about Gengis Khan and Attila???!! :rolleyes:
It's not recent history, but you can't say NO east asian invasions have been in Russia....

[Basil]

Ok, she could be a liar or not (i have to say her family is quiet rich and lives in the center of Moscow, that's sure cause my family visited her), but she explained me the history of last centuries in Russia, she's not ignorant so i trust her: native slavics were once fairy, light skinned and "typical slavic", but in the last centuries with all invasions of extra-european they've become darker and more "exotic", especially more asian-looking. So i asked her: "So, are most russians (europeans) more light or dark??" and she told me "half and half". She's got no reason to lie with me i think. I didn't study the history of Russia but i trust her. I have another friend from European Russia, Oxana, who's got black eyes, round face and light brown hair. Few blondes, i have to say. Anyway i find nothing wrong with it, they're serious person and i like their company :thumb001:
This nonsense about non-European admixture was imposed on the Russians so long (I mean 'scratch a Russian...') that many of them sincerely believe in it, especially those who have atypical physical appearance, very often by rather prosaic reasons, such as a non-Russian grandparent for example. The only contact zone in Russia where the ethnic Russians can possibly look somewhat 'exotic' to the outsider's eyes is Volga region and the Urals.

[Mordid]

South Russians aren't that dark as some imagine.
Just to end all speculations on that matter, here are the data on hair and eye colour of the South Russians aka Don Cossacks:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1584/bunakdon11.jpg
hair (n 250)
black - 8 (3,2%)
dark brown - 53 (21,2%)
red - 6 (2,4%)
light to medium brown - 91 (36,4%)
dark blond - 63 (25,2%)
blond - 29 (11,6%)
eyes (n 250)
black - 4 (1,6%)
brown - 28 (11,2%)
yellow-green - 32 (12,8%)
green - 33 (13,2%)
grey-green - 27 (10,8%)
light grey - 76 (30,4%)
blue - 45 (18%)
dark blue - 5 (2%)
If Southern Russians aren't darker, then Ukrainians aren't darker aswell. Same as South Poles, except Goral in deep South are darker. Where I came from, Katowice, Southern Poland, people look like your standard Slavic type. I think people should travel, not listen to coon and other anthropologist because they are mostly bullshit.

[The Alchemist]

This nonsense about non-European admixture was imposed on the Russians so long (I mean 'scratch a Russian...') that many of them sincerely believe in it, especially those who have atypical physical appearance, very often by rather prosaic reasons, such as a non-Russian grandparent for example. The only contact zone in Russia where the ethnic Russians can possibly look somewhat 'exotic' to the outsider's eyes is Volga region and the Urals.

Many russians that i personally know have got relatives in Siberia and eastern Russia. Anyway, this "atypical physical appearance", as you say, must have a reason. I don't think all of them have asian grandparents, on the contrary they must have extra-european ancestors since long time ago.

[Basil]

If Southern Russians aren't darker, then Ukrainians aren't darker aswell. Same as South Poles, except Goral in deep South are darker. Where I came from, Katowice, Southern Poland, people look like your standard Slavic type. I think people should travel, not listening to coon and other anthropologist because they are mostly bullshit.
Eastern Ukrainians are very diverse. Even people form neighbouring villages can look very different. And yes, many of them are way too lighter than you probably think.
Your last suggestion makes no sense: you don't have to travel if scientists traveled before you and published a full account of their work.

[The Alchemist]

No east asians invaded Russia, ever. Probably the muslims, but they are never part east asian. Russians are not a race, like americans. There are siberian states in the federation, racially they are not slave but siberians. When talk about race, use slav not russian.
Anyway, my questions was referred to Russians in general, not Slavs. I'm really aware of what i write. It was reffered to Russians in general who live in European Russia.

[The Alchemist]

Eastern Ukrainians are very diverse. Even people form neighbouring villages can look very different. And yes, many of them are way too lighter than you probably think.
Your last suggestion makes no sense: you don't have to travel if scientists traveled before you and published a full account of their work.

Ukranians have got a big variety, but anyway, times have changed, so the documents you posted maybe show a past situation, which could be changed during the years. I don't know how's the situation now overthere, we should see recent documents.

[Mordid]

Eastern Ukrainians are very diverse. Even people form neighbouring villages can look very different. And yes, many of them are way too lighter than you probably think.
Your last suggestion makes no sense: you don't have to travel if scientists traveled before you and published a full account of their work.

Right. I'm Polish and I know damn well how Poles look like in general more than any scientists.

[Mordid]

Ukranians have got a big variety, but anyway, times have changed, so the documents you posted maybe show a past situation, which could be changed during the years. I don't know how's the situation now overthere, we should see recent documents.

They are probably even diverse than Russians..

[Wadjet Horus]

What about Gengis Khan and Attila???!! :rolleyes:
It's not recent history, but you can't say NO east asian invasions have been in Russia....



Ancient europeans likely mistook minority mongoloids(probably occaisional siberians)for majority, guess xenophobia at work. Ghengis Khan being mongoloid is solely based on alleged chinese paintings of him which are not reliable depictions. Not sure about Attila, but huns spoke non-asiatic language.

[Basil]

Many russians that i personally know have got relatives in Siberia and eastern Russia. Anyway, this "atypical physical appearance", as you say, must have a reason. I don't think all of them have asian grandparents, on the contrary they must have extra-european ancestors since long time ago.
Most of the Russian population of Siberia are descendants of the people who arrived there in the 20th century. I posted in this thread the images of Siberian Russians. I just wonder how many of them look exotic or asian to you.

[The Alchemist]

Ancient europeans likely mistook minority mongoloids(probably occaisional siberians)for majority, guess xenophobia at work. Ghengis Khan being mongoloid is solely based on alleged chinese paintings of him which are not reliable depictions. Not sure about Attila, but huns spoke non-asiatic language.
Xenophobia???!! It really doesn't deal with our discussions. These are facts, history, i'm not a scientist nor you are, it seems, but check out on Wikipedia or other sources: Gengis Kahn and Attila were Asians, i can't understand why you're denying it.
How can you say these leaders were not Asians????!!!????? :eek:

[The Alchemist]

Most of the Russian population of Siberia are descendants of the people who arrived there in the 20th century. I posted in this thread the images of Siberian Russians. I just wonder how many of them look exotic or asian to you.
Don't mistake what i wrote....I said:
"Many European Russians that i know look partly Asians, and some of them have got Siberian relatives. Is it so difficoult to understand?!". I didn't say most descents of the Siberian look Asian...I hope you can understand me better now.

[Wadjet Horus]

Xenophobia???!! It really doesn't deal with our discussions. These are facts, history, i'm not a scientist nor you are, it seems, but check out on Wikipedia or other sources: Gengis Kahn and Attila were Asians, i can't understand why you're denying it.
How can you say these leaders were not Asians????!!!????? :eek:

LOL, do not be scared of the badass mongols, if you take them as mongoloids, these aliens have been with your people long long ago before the mongols. As genetic study shows, no reasonable traces of mongoloid dna left by the presumed asiatic mongols, the mongoloid admixture dispersal in Europe suggests a non-mongol origin: Finland, Estonia, Lithuania, none of them had been occuied by the mongols. It is true that east asians have been mixing with northern europeans for a very long time, but they were not part of any organized invasion, they were living with europeans peacefully from the neolithic ages. It also explains minor but curious mongoloid dna admixture in some very reclusive ethnics like sephardic jews in Northern Africa and northernmost Europe. Compared to the more western europeans, russians are rather less affected by mongoloid admixtures.

I am not denying anything, just saying we are far far worse than the mongols for the racialicious values. :embarrassed

[Caeruleus]

Oleg Yankovsky
http://data-allocine.blogomaniac.fr/mdata/7/3/4/Z20071121094501200479437/img/1247721067_oleg_jankovski.jpg

Konstantin Khabensky
http://cf1.imgobject.com/profiles/325/4ca824a97b9aa17acd000325/konstantin-khabenskiy-original.jpg

Vladimir Mashkov
http://english.ruvr.ru/data/2010/09/29/1224099804/3RIA-697729-Preview.jpg

Nikita Mihalkov (very young) :)
http://www.mihalkovy.ru/m/mihalkov/nikita_mihalkov-08.jpg

Vyacheslav Tikhonov
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GSMZYocHWqo/TbgMhUbek9I/AAAAAAAACfc/Lj4L1e2Z6qI/s1600/v.tikhonov%2Bbolkonsky.jpg

Vasily Shikshin
http://pobedagallery.com/system/images/329/large/foto_06.JPG?1276258786

Yuri Nikulin
http://i2.listal.com/image/708024/600full-yuri-nikulin.jpg

Leonid Yarmolnik
http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/resize/db/actor/05/57/98/leonid-yarmolnik-510869l-poza.jpg

Vladimir Vdovichenkov
http://www.peoples.ru/art/cinema/actor/vdovichenkov/vdovichenkov_29ture.jpg

Mikhail Ulyanov
http://static.cinemarx.ro/poze/cache/t26/persoane-poze/2010/01/Mikhail_Ulyanov_1263307375_2.jpg

There's nothing wrong with dark hair people.

[Caeruleus]

Larisa Guzeeva
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a7d3PsiuXKY/TJIE9gYsZLI/AAAAAAAAEJw/G33qpzRFemg/s1600/larisa_guzeeva-08.jpg
http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/f/d/fdul6bc9r8e7b69d.jpg
http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/f/d/fduggi4gpe5sudg5.jpg

Larisa Guzeeva :love: :D

[Humanophage]

What about Gengis Khan and Attila???!! :rolleyes:
It's not recent history, but you can't say NO east asian invasions have been in Russia....
Attila is unrelated to Russians, and then he preceded the 'fair Slavs' by a few centuries. The Mongol Empire controlled Russian states through the Golden Horde, which only had East Asian (Mongol) rulers in the same manner as colonial Africa had European rulers, but which itself was Volga-Turkic/Finnic (i.e. people like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazan_Tatar)).

Moreover, why speculate on history when there are genetic researches available?

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/DodecadAdmixMed.jpg
As you can see, the brunette European and West Asian elements are minor among Russians in comparison to other Europeans. Their North Asian admix is somewhat elevated, especially among North Russians (who, by the way, had no Mongol invasions) - but it is among all Finnic populations. It is even higher among Finns, who are the single most depigmented population in the world.


There's nothing wrong with dark hair people.
Well, except for three factors:
1) Some of them aren't Russians. Leonid Yarmolnik, for example, is fully Ashkenazi Jewish. Mashkov's mother is Italian.
2) Most of them have otherwise light pigmentation. For instance, Larisa Guzeeva, Nikita Mikhalkov, Oleg Yankovsky have green, grey or blue eyes.
3) Some of the photographs are coloured incorrectly due to being retro. Young Mikhalkov is a particularly good example. Look at how dark brown his eyes are on your picture, but here is a modern one:
http://tiger-news.info/uploads/posts/2009-06/1244630951_1.jpg

Moreover, most of the people on your pictures are in dark surroundings, whereas most people in the thread are in the sun. Here, for instance, is Vdovichenkov under natural light:
http://www.kinoactors.ru/new_actors/vdovichenko.jpg

Or Yankovsky (might be dyed hair, it seems mousy blonde in films, but then they have retro colours):
http://img1.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/0//44/49/44049327_yankovsky_200905201714475.jpg

I am not saying that Russians must be light-haired and blue-eyed, merely that the chances of a person being Russian without recent admixtures diminishes dramatically as the pigmentation darkens. Even in the darker cases, it usually means e.g. medium-brown hair that looks blondish in the light. The thread has plenty of such Russians, but for some reason there still are complaints about darker Russians being underrepresented. Click any page and you'll find them.

For instance, page 16. Olika posts 9 pictures. 2/9 of them have Russians over 40. 3/9 have brown-eyed Russians. 6/9 have Russians with medium-brown hair. 3/9 have blonde, blue-eyed Russians, of which one is an infant. And then, for some reason, people reply with "Where are the pics of the russians over the age of 40?" and "You should post more pics of Dark haired and brown eyed Russians. It's not like they don't exist."

[Caeruleus]

Yarmolnik/Mashkov - Didn't know that they are of jewish/italian descent.

As for the retro pictures - I tried to find pics of young Mihalkov, Yankovsky and the rest since they are very old now or dead.

[Wadjet Horus]

Attila is unrelated to Russians, and then he preceded the 'fair Slavs' by a few centuries. The Mongol Empire controlled Russian states through the Golden Horde, which only had East Asian (Mongol) rulers in the same manner as colonial Africa had European rulers, but which itself was Volga-Turkic/Finnic (i.e. people like this).

Neither East asian or siberian mongoloids ruled the Golden Horde, not a tiny thread of tastament or evidence to support this, it was the east asians were the most oppressed under the Mongol rule, a caste system based on skin color was imposed by the mongols on general east asian territoy occupied by them, where semuren(people with colored eyes) were granted the same social privilege as the mongol rulers, majority chinese were classified as third-fourth class citizens. If mongol rulers were east asian, why would they imposed such harsh racial caste only on chinese(mongols never conquered Japan)?



As you can see, the brunette European and West Asian elements are minor among Russians in comparison to other Europeans. Their North Asian admix is somewhat elevated, especially among North Russians (who, by the way, had no Mongol invasions) - but it is among all Finnic populations. It is even higher among Finns, who are the single most depigmented population in the world.

Siberians were native to the arctia areas for 10 thousand years, they were the first subjected to invasion, were assimilated by turkic invaders, but essentially the mongols were a western force. The northern asian admixtures in russians, finns, estonians, lithuanians can not be explained by the mongols. There is no records that mongols migrated north. The northern and baltic europeans mongoloid admixtures came from neolithic intermixture, not mongols. Siberians were mainly deer herders, arctic fishmen, their native cultures have been unchanged thrtough the whole history, never they told of a massive conquest or seem to have inherit any legacy of military conquest.


Since prehistoric times,[16][17] long before the concept of national borders existed, the Sami people of arctic Europe lived and worked in an area that stretches over the regions now known as Norway, Sweden, Finland and the Russian Kola Peninsula. They have inhabited the northern arctic and sub-arctic regions of Fenno-Scandinavia and Russia for at least 5000 years.[18] The Sami are counted among the arctic peoples and are members of circumpolar groups such as the Arctic Council Indigenous Peoples’ Secretariat.[19]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_people

[d3cimat3d]

Attila is unrelated to Russians, and then he preceded the 'fair Slavs' by a few centuries.

Most of the Huns were not Mongoloid. They were Scythian. Only the ruling class had Mongoloid influence & Attila didn't exactly look like a Mongol, but probably more like a Kyrgyz.

[Wadjet Horus]

Volga-Turkic/Finnic

Turkic is not finnish, turks are predominantly western, finnic are more mongoloid. Mongoloidness is not the distance between the west and the turks.

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/40_Language/TurkicAndIEsEn.htm

Turks are very far from the finns.

[The Alchemist]

Oleg Yankovsky
http://data-allocine.blogomaniac.fr/mdata/7/3/4/Z20071121094501200479437/img/1247721067_oleg_jankovski.jpg

Konstantin Khabensky
http://cf1.imgobject.com/profiles/325/4ca824a97b9aa17acd000325/konstantin-khabenskiy-original.jpg

Vladimir Mashkov
http://english.ruvr.ru/data/2010/09/29/1224099804/3RIA-697729-Preview.jpg

Nikita Mihalkov (very young) :)
http://www.mihalkovy.ru/m/mihalkov/nikita_mihalkov-08.jpg

Vyacheslav Tikhonov
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GSMZYocHWqo/TbgMhUbek9I/AAAAAAAACfc/Lj4L1e2Z6qI/s1600/v.tikhonov%2Bbolkonsky.jpg

Vasily Shikshin
http://pobedagallery.com/system/images/329/large/foto_06.JPG?1276258786

Yuri Nikulin
http://i2.listal.com/image/708024/600full-yuri-nikulin.jpg

Leonid Yarmolnik
http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/resize/db/actor/05/57/98/leonid-yarmolnik-510869l-poza.jpg

Vladimir Vdovichenkov
http://www.peoples.ru/art/cinema/actor/vdovichenkov/vdovichenkov_29ture.jpg

Mikhail Ulyanov
http://static.cinemarx.ro/poze/cache/t26/persoane-poze/2010/01/Mikhail_Ulyanov_1263307375_2.jpg

There's nothing wrong with dark hair people.
I totally agree.

[The Alchemist]

Most of the Huns were not Mongoloid. They were Scythian. Only the ruling class had Mongoloid influence & Attila didn't exactly look like a Mongol, but probably more like a Kyrgyz.
Not properly european anyway, that's what i meant.

[Humanophage]

Neither East asian or siberian mongoloids ruled the Golden Horde, not a tiny thread of tastament or evidence to support this,
Well, who ruled them is irrelevant to the issue at hand. The thing is that those who could theoretically engage in intermixing or rape were Volga-Turkic/Finnic (Bashkir, Tatar, etc.), not East Asian (Mongol). Kypchaks, too, but if they were East Asian to a significant degree, their influence seems to be minor even in Volga populations.


The northern asian admixtures in russians, finns, estonians, lithuanians can not be explained by the mongols.
Precisely, which is what I said when describing North Asian admixtures in Finns and North Russians. It is also quite minute, by the way. A glorious 3.4% for Russians and 5.8% for Finns.


Turkic is not finnish, turks are predominantly western, finnic are more mongoloid. Mongoloidness is not the distance between the west and the turks.

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turk...cal_TreeEn.htm

Turks are very far from the finns.
I am referring to Finno-Ugric and Turkic peoples living in the Volga region, such as Kazan Tatars, Chuvashs, Bashkirs, Mordvins and so forth. Some are technically Turkic, some Finno-Ugric. In this case, the non-Turkicised populations like Mordvins are less Mongoloid (6% N Asian, 1.5% E Asian) than the Turkicised ones like Chuvashes (17.6% N Asian, 5.6% E Asian). Both are predominantly European though.


Most of the Huns were not Mongoloid. They were Scythian. Only the ruling class had Mongoloid influence & Attila didn't exactly look like a Mongol, but probably more like a Kyrgyz.
Either way, the Huns were gone long before the proverbial 'blonde blue-eyed Slavs' appeared. Atilla lived in the 5th century, the Russians emerged as a distinct group of Slavs in the 9th century. So they had to be no more mixed with the Huns than the rest of the Slavs from the start (probably less, since the Hunnic conquests were in the south (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Huns_empire.png), while proto-Russians like Krivichi or Vyatichi were in the north (http://images.wikia.com/historyatlas/images/2/2e/Europe-700ad.jpg)).



I totally agree.
With using Ashkenazi and half-Italian people to illustrate Russians, and with posting edited pictures like Mikhalkov's?


Yarmolnik/Mashkov - Didn't know that they are of jewish/italian descent.

As for the retro pictures - I tried to find pics of young Mihalkov, Yankovsky and the rest since they are very old now or dead.
Well, it just shows how when you see dark Russians, they have a good chance of not being really illustrative of the ethnicity due to not being ethnically Russian.

Old photographs aren't really useful when determining pigmentation because their colours are tampered with, making them not reflective of reality. If Mikhalkov really had such a dark pigmentation, he would have been seen as exotic.

[Wadjet Horus]

I am referring to Finno-Ugric and Turkic peoples living in the Volga region, such as Kazan Tatars, Chuvashs, Bashkirs, Mordvins and so forth. Some are technically Turkic, some Finno-Ugric. In this case, the non-Turkicised populations like Mordvins are less Mongoloid (6% N Asian, 1.5% E Asian) than the Turkicised ones like Chuvashes (17.6% N Asian, 5.6% E Asian). Both are predominantly European though.

Finnic are different from the turkicized tribes on siberia, finnic people had been mixed for 5000 years. Turkicized tribes in siberia probably would prove my points, I cannot find their y-chromosome data, but mtdna-wise, they are mostly european.


"Gene pool component" columns for Chuvashes reveal their racial mix to be 89.1% Caucasian, 9.1% Mongoloid, and 1.8% "Unidentified" (page 549). This point is repeated in the text:

chuvash also clusters with the western asians, like turks. The turkicized ones are rather the more less asiatic.

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/60_Genetics/ChuvashGeneticsEn.htm

Figure 3.

Bashkirs are also more western than the finns, even thought they were more turkicized:


A total of 471 Bashkir men were tested for their Y-DNA (paternal) haplogroups. Of these, when the samples are taken as a whole without regard to geographic region, the most common Y-DNA haplogroup among the Bashkirs was R1b, within which 34.4% belonged to R1b1b2 (R1b1b2-M269) and 13.2% to R1b1b1. R1a1 (R-SRY10831.2) was found among 26.3%, and 17% had N1c (N1c-Tat).
http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/bashkirs.html

Only Uzbekistan has the most significant mongoloid admixture, but consider the long history of ethnic exchanges in central Asia (since 2000BC), such mongoloid admixture is still unreasonably low for the scenario if mongols were dominated by the asiatic people.

[d3cimat3d]

Either way, the Huns were gone long before the proverbial 'blonde blue-eyed Slavs' appeared. Atilla lived in the 5th century, the Russians emerged as a distinct group of Slavs in the 9th century. So they had to be no more mixed with the Huns than the rest of the Slavs from the start (probably less, since the Hunnic conquests were in the south (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Huns_empire.png), while proto-Russians like Krivichi or Vyatichi were in the north (http://images.wikia.com/historyatlas/images/2/2e/Europe-700ad.jpg)).


Exactly. The Huns didn't touch the Slavs, since the Slavs were burrowed deep inside the forests in the northern part of the Dnepr river basin. But the 8-9th century expanding Slavs did assimilate some people who had crossed paths with the Huns, such as the Alans. I mean as far as genes go, if you scratch a Russian you get a Pole - So Russians aren't exactly pure Slavs but with minor Finno-Ugric and Turkic admix... BTW I'm not debating with you, I just wanted to touch up on this subject.

[Hess]

South Russians aren't that dark as some imagine.
Just to end all speculations on that matter, here are the data on hair and eye colour of the South Russians aka Don Cossacks:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1584/bunakdon11.jpg
hair (n 250)
black - 8 (3,2%)
dark brown - 53 (21,2%)
red - 6 (2,4%)
light to medium brown - 91 (36,4%)
dark blond - 63 (25,2%)
blond - 29 (11,6%)
eyes (n 250)
black - 4 (1,6%)
brown - 28 (11,2%)
yellow-green - 32 (12,8%)
green - 33 (13,2%)
grey-green - 27 (10,8%)
light grey - 76 (30,4%)
blue - 45 (18%)
dark blue - 5 (2%)

:confused:

Where did I say that South Russians are "dark"? Furthermore, how is "dark" even defined? And lastly, why do Russians on anthropology forums try so hard to prove that they are all blonde blue eyed Aryans? it's creepy.

even going by your numbers, every tenth Russian has Brown eyes and every fourth Russian has dark hair- these are certainly significant numbers.

[Mordid]

So Russians aren't exactly pure Slavs but with minor Finno-Ugric and Turkic admix... BTW I'm not debating with you, I just wanted to touch up on this subject.
If people asking about the race, then Russians are, ethnically, Slavs with Finnic and Turkic influence, so you're right. I think the purest Slavs is apparently Belarusians or even Poles.

[Mordid]

lastly, why do Russians on anthropology forums try so hard to prove that they are all blonde blue eyed Aryans? it's creepy.


Indeed, Russkie are so funny with their puesdo-Aryan. ;D

[Basil]

:confused:

Where did I say that South Russians are "dark"? Furthermore, how is "dark" even defined? And lastly, why do Russians on anthropology forums try so hard to prove that they are all blonde blue eyed Aryans? it's creepy.

even going by your numbers, every tenth Russian has Brown eyes and every fourth Russian has dark hair- these are certainly significant numbers.
I wasn't exactly referring to you when I quoted your post. There were comments about South Russians who are supposedly dark and aren't represented in the pics posted above and so on and on. And it's not about proving anything actually, but about getting sick and tired when foreigners try to impose their views about how Russians should look on the Russians themselves. It's really creepy when someone says 'oh, it's cool but why are there so many pics of light-pigmented Russians when I was told in the school they are pretty dark' and wants more pics of the real (whatever it may mean) Russians.
I myself posted the pics of Siberian students without any cherry-picking. Any Siberian sample is always highly representative on the scale of the whole country, because the region was settled by the people from every possible corner of the European part of Russia (and Ukraine, btw). And I think dark-pigmented people were adequately represented in those pics.

[qwerty7]

If people asking about the race, then Russians are, ethnically, Slavs with Finnic and Turkic influence, so you're right. I think the purest Slavs is apparently Belarusians or even Poles.

among Poles as a high percentage of non-white mixed people.

[Mordid]

among Poles as a high percentage of non-white mixed people.
Russia is a big country. It is the biggest country in the world by the land mass. Not all Russians are Russians, there are Tatars, Armenians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Uzbek, Latvians and so on.

[Hussar]

You should post more pics of Dark haired and brown eyed Russians. It's not like they don't exist.



From my direct and long (now) experience i can say that for a generic pan european standard of evaluation, the ethnic russians are BLOND (in the wider sense) in 30-35% of cases.

But, attention : doesn't mean that the left 60-65% is dark haired. Or better we have to define what is "dark".

Even when they aren't properly blond, ethnic russians belong to a variegate intermediate category of shades. The really dark (brunet) subjects are a minority.
Besides if we count not only the hair colour but the overall pigmentation (complexion that is far more important on a perceptive, visual level), then the mediterranean brunet complexion is a small minority of "great" russians (and Belorussians). I'd say barely 5% of cases

[Hess]

From my direct and long (now) experience i can say that for a generic pan european standard of evaluation, the ethnic russians are BLOND (in the wider sense) in 30-35% of cases.

But, attention : doesn't mean that the left 60-65% is dark haired. Or better we have to define what is "dark".

Even when they aren't properly blond, ethnic russians belong to a variegate intermediate category of shades. The really dark (brunet) subjects are a minority.
Besides if we count not only the hair colour but the overall pigmentation (complexion that is far more important on a perceptive, visual level), then the mediterranean brunet complexion is a small minority of "great" russians (and Belorussians). I'd say barely 5% of cases

I would say that Olive Toned skin (A la Greek and Italian) is present among even less than 5% of Russians.

I knew (and know) some "Russians" with such a skin color but once discussion about their heritage arises, they all confess to distant Ukrainian or Tatar ancestry.

[Olika]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16294&stc=1&d=1318441742http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16295&stc=1&d=1318441742http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16296&stc=1&d=1318441742http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16297&stc=1&d=1318441742http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16298&stc=1&d=1318441742http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16299&stc=1&d=1318441742http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16300&stc=1&d=1318441742http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16301&stc=1&d=1318441742

[qwerty7]

Russia is a big country. It is the biggest country in the world by the land mass. Not all Russians are Russians, there are Tatars, Armenians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Uzbek, Latvians and so on.

Yes. important not to confuse these people

[Lisa]

in the other photos she looks quite "Slavic":
http://cs10522.vkontakte.ru/u31197858/-6/x_f7842e68.jpg

She not ethnic Russian . http://vkontakte.ru/natalie_mrr

[Mordid]

She not ethnic Russian . http://vkontakte.ru/natalie_mrr

Nice, I'm gonna add her.

[Lisa]

Konstantin Khabensky
http://cf1.imgobject.com/profiles/325/4ca824a97b9aa17acd000325/konstantin-khabenskiy-original.jpg

Vladimir Mashkov
http://english.ruvr.ru/data/2010/09/29/1224099804/3RIA-697729-Preview.jpg


Leonid Yarmolnik
http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/resize/db/actor/05/57/98/leonid-yarmolnik-510869l-poza.jpg


Khabensky and Yarmolnik Jews .:confused: Mashkov part Italian .

This thread about ethnic Russians!!!

Stop stupid trolling :mad:

[Lisa]

Larisa Guzeeva
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a7d3PsiuXKY/TJIE9gYsZLI/AAAAAAAAEJw/G33qpzRFemg/s1600/larisa_guzeeva-08.jpg

Larisa Guzeeva :love: :D

She ethnic Tatar !!!

[hajduk]

It will turn out to be that ethnic russians are 20-30% in their country :X

[Lisa]

Russians http://s017.radikal.ru/i441/1110/9b/9315af4bf105.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s06.radikal.ru/i179/1110/c3/fa991ad7406d.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://i011.radikal.ru/1110/14/a83f2c085da2.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i403/1110/d0/0932aaad57c4.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s017.radikal.ru/i433/1110/6e/ec936af4646d.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

[Caeruleus]

Khabensky and Yarmolnik Jews .:confused: Mashkov part Italian .

This thread about ethnic Russians!!!

Stop stupid trolling :mad:

God forbid someone threatens your aryan reputation :D
Calm down, I was not trolling. I picked famous people (actors) beacause I knew (at least I thought) that they are russians. They all have russian sounding names. I couldn't possibly know that some of them are of jewish, italian or tatar descent.

http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/1/186/3929/8273527/1/medvedev.jpg?width=630

I hope that at least this guy is not a jew :) By the way Medvedev's hair is rather brown (not very dark) I feel that someone will give me the light/shade routine pretty soon :)

My point is that not all russians look like nordic semi-gods :) as some russians would like us (foreigners) to think. Anyways all the best to you russians (blonde or brunttes) :)

Guzeeva tatar as she might be is a lot prettier than all the blondes of this world.

[Olika]

Vyacheslav Malafeev
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16320&stc=1&d=1318508158
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16322&stc=1&d=1318508158
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16321&stc=1&d=1318508158

[Svartálfar]

The Russians in those photos look fairer than the average russian I see in western Europe. Russians I see everyday looks like this.

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/quiz/62100_1221410829518_450_300.jpg

http://www.images99.com/i99/02/30078/30078.jpg

http://www.solofutbol.cl/Imagenes/Albunes%20de%20futbol/Equipos/cska%20moscu/cska%20moscu%202009-2010/vasili%20berezutski.jpg

http://www.calciosport24.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Andrei-Arshavin-001.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Torb.jpg/230px-Torb.jpg

The lighter ones look finnish.

[qwerty7]

http://www.gsom.spbu.ru/foto/2010_09_01_master/2010_09_01_master_003.jpg

http://www.gsom.spbu.ru/foto/2010_09_01_master/2010_09_01_master_009.jpg

http://www.gsom.spbu.ru/foto/2010_09_01_master/2010_09_01_master_020.jpg

http://www.gsom.spbu.ru/foto/2010_09_01_master/2010_09_01_master_017.jpg

http://komionline.ru/media/images/2010/12/16/sgu2.JPG

http://s017.radikal.ru/i440/1110/a7/c31ef352c7f6.jpg

[qwerty7]

Nice, I'm gonna add her.

Why?
Why Pole user in a Russian social network?:rolleyes:

[Olika]

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[Onychodus]

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[Olika]

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what for it here?

[Onychodus]

what for it here?

i deleted it because moderator deleted another posts (not mine)

[Sebastianus Rex]

A good way to see alot of russian phenotypes is to take a look at the "Russian Brides" website.

It is common to detect white russians with ugric, tatar and asian influence. In the western part of Russia and Ukraine they're mostly pure slavs with less admixture.

[Olika]

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[Olika]

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[Olika]

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