Who should have won the Napoleonic Wars?

[Joe McCarthy]

The wars that made the modern world.

[Geminus]

Maybe apart from the French - who would really want Napoleon to have won...?

[Joe McCarthy]

Maybe apart from the French - who would really want Napoleon to have won...?

You might be surprised. :)

[russland]

General Frost.
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[Joe McCarthy]

General Frost.
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'General Frost' is pretty much who did win. :)

[Logan]

Sounds a bit like another that was to follow. ;)


Napoleon's splendid Grande Armee had been completely decimated in the Russian campaign under his generalship. The immense sufferings and the enormous loss of life caused by his actions hardly affected the Emperor. Important matters had to be attended. He still had to attempt to hold together his coalition and build a new army. He would remark, "Those men whom Nature had not hardened against all chances of fate and fortune seemed shaken; they lost their cheerfulness and good humor, and saw ahead of them nothing but disaster and catastrophe. Those on whom she had bestowed superior powers kept up their spirits and normal dispositions, seeing in the various ordeals a challenge to win new glory."

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Turned out well enough in his end.
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[beaver]

'General Frost' is pretty much who did win.
Oh, the Red Army broke through the Mannerheim line too late because of the 'General Frost' :D

[The Lawspeaker]

Coalition or the frogs. It is six of one and half a dozen of the other.

[Joe McCarthy]

Coalition or the frogs. It is six of one and half a dozen of the other.

More like French domination and tyranny or the balance of power that resulted in the Concert of Europe and the Pax Britannica.

A French victory might very well have left fewer British troops to be thrown at us though and might possibly have created an opening for the US to conquer Canada.

[The Lawspeaker]

More like French domination and tyranny or the balance of power that resulted in the Concert of Europe and the Pax Britannica.

A French victory might very well have left fewer British troops to be thrown at us though and might possibly have created an opening for the US to conquer Canada.
"Yawns"

[Pallantides]

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[SwordoftheVistula]

Coalition, for sure :thumb001:

Too bad for world civilization that later fools destroyed the Anglo-German alliance

[Ouistreham]

— "Who should have won the Napoleonic Wars?"

— Just for your information: Napoleon actually won.

After him, nation-states made of free citizens, civil codes, recourse to the law (and the metric system) became the norm throughout Europe, despite all futile British efforts to reverse the course of history.

The British attempt to restore old-style tyrannies was an abject failure. It only suceeded in Russia and Spain, which led those unfortunate nations to a long and painful decline with terrible consequences.

Wasn't it reminiscent of the current U.S. neo-con strive to base Pax Americana on outdated Muslim tyrannies like in Saudi Arabia?

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[Nglund]

The British attempt to restore old-style tyrannies was an abject failure. It only suceeded in Russia and Spain, which led those unfortunate nations to a long and painful decline with terrible consequences.

Tyrannies? Have you ever read Bonaparte's letters to the Genoese Senate? If anything, it was his way of applying republican ideals which was tyrannical.

[Joe McCarthy]

— "Who should have won the Napoleonic Wars?"

— Just for your information: Napoleon actually won.

After him, nation-states made of free citizens, civil codes, recourse to the law (and the metric system) became the norm throughout Europe, despite all futile British efforts to reverse the course of history.

The British attempt to restore old-style tyrannies was an abject failure. It only suceeded in Russia and Spain, which led those unfortunate nations to a long and painful decline with terrible consequences.

Wasn't it reminiscent of the current U.S. neo-con strive to base Pax Americana on outdated Muslim tyrannies like in Saudi Arabia?

5keHVDZPoFk

Yours is a very French view my friend.
:wink

The US supports the Saudis knowing an even more Islamist oriented regime is likely to take its place.

And we might note that reactionaries like Metternich resisted the British effort to spread the parliamentary system. Britain's aim on the Continent wasn't to stifle liberty but to stifle French hegemony, which was itself spearheaded by a dictator. :D

Throughout the 19th century afterward Britain supported liberal nationalist revolutions on the Continent except when its own security interests were imperiled.

[Logan]

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