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The Lawspeaker
01-14-2012, 01:10 AM
Why The US Needs a Major War
At the moment, we find ourselves in the middle of a turbulent phase of the global evolutionary cycle which commenced in the 1980ies and is projected to end by the middle of the XXI century. In the process, the US is clearly loosing its hyperpower status…
Estimates offered by experts from the Russian Academy of Science show that the current period of severe instabilities should end roughly in 2017-2019 with a crisis. The crisis will not be as deep as those of 2008-2009 or 2011-2012 and will mark the transition to an economy built on a novel technological basis. The economic revival will, in 2016-2020, likely entail serious shifts in the global power balance and serious military-political conflicts involving both the global heavyweights and the developing countries. The epicenters of the conflicts will supposedly be located in the Middle East and the post-Soviet Central Asia.
The century of the US global military-political dominance and economic primacy appears to be nearing completion. The US failed the unipolarity test and, bled by permanent Middle Eastern conflicts, currently lacks the resources retaining the global leadership would take.
Multipolarity implies a much fairer distribution of wealth across the world and a profound transformation of the international institutions such as the UN, the IMF, the World Bank, etc. At the moment the Washington consensus seems irreversibly dead and the global agenda should be topped by the task of building an economy with much lower uncertainty levels, tighter financial regulations, and greater justice in the allocation of revenues and economic benefits.
The centers of economic development are drifting from the West, which counts the industrial revolution among the main accomplishments on its record, to Asia. China and India should be preparing for an unprecedented economic race in the process against the backdrop of the wider competition between the economies employing the state capitalism and the traditional democracy models. China and India, the world's two top-populous countries, will define the directions and the pace of development in the future, but the main battle over global primacy is going to be played out between the US and China, with the choice of the XXI century post-industrial socioeconomic model and political system at stake.
The question arising in the context is how the US is going to react to the transition?
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It has to be taken into account that any US strategy proceeds from the assumption that loosing the global primacy is unacceptable to the country. The linkage between global leadership and the XXI century prosperity is an axiom for the US elites regardless of political details.
Mathematical modeling of the global geopolitical dynamics warrants the conclusion that a victorious large-scale war fought with conventional warfare is the US only option to reverse the fast meltdown of its unsurpassed geopolitical status.
It is an open secret that occasionally non-military methods of pushing rivals off the stage - as in the case of the collapse of the Soviet Union – also work, and the corresponding technologies are being permanently polished in the US. On the other hand, up to date countries like China or Iran evidently prove immune to external manipulation. If the current geopolitical dynamics persists, the global leadership change can be expected by 2025, and the only way the US can derail the process being to ignite a major war…
The country facing an imminent leadership loss has no option but to strike first, and this is what Washington has been doing over the past 15 years. The US specific tactic is to pick as a target not an alternative candidate for geopolitical primacy but countries engaging which appears affordable at the moment. Attacking Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, and Iraq, the US sought to handle purely economic or relatively minor regional problems, but a bigger game would clearly require a more significant target. Military analysts hold that Iran plus Syria and the non-Arab Shia groups such as Lebanon's Hezbollah face the greatest chances of getting hit in the name of a new global redistribution.
The redistribution is in fact underway. The Arab Spring spun off and managed by Washington created the appropriate conditions for a merger of the Muslim world within a single caliphate. The US plan is that this new formation will help the waning hyperpower maintain its grip on the world's key energy resources and safeguard its interests vis-a-vis Asia and Africa. No doubt, the challenge prompting the US to compose this new type of arrangement is the swelling might of China.
Getting rid of Iran and Syria which stand in the way of the US global dominance would be Washington's natural next step. Attempts to topple the Iranian regime by means of inciting civilian unrest in the country failed fabulously, and military analysts suspect that an intervention scenario akin to those implemented in dealing with Iraq and Afghanistan eventually awaits Iran. The plan has serious chances to materialize even though as of today even the withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan presents the US with considerable problems.
The implementation of the Greater Middle East project - along with appreciable damage to the standing of Russia and China - would be the key prizes the US hopes to win by fighting a major war… The design became widely known in the US following the publication in the Armed Forces Journal of the notorious Peters map. The motivation which loomed behind the artifact was to muscle Russia and China out of the Mediterranean region and the Middle East, to cut Russia off the South Caucasus and Central Asia, and to disconnect China from its most important energy suppliers.
The materialization of the Greater Middle East plan would ruin Russia's prospects for a peaceful and steady development as the unstable US-controlled South Caucasus would be sending shock waves across the North Caucasus. Since, obviously, the unrest would be detonated by the forces of Muslim fundamentalism, Russia's predominantly Muslim regions are sure to be affected.
The US is unable to sustain the Washington consensus any longer relying on economic and political instruments. China's Jemin Jibao painted the picture with utmost clarity when it wrote that the US grew into a global parasite which prints unlimited quantities of dollars, exports them to pay for its imports, and thus buys Americans lavish living standards by robbing the rest of the world. Russia's premier expressed a similar view during his November 17, 2011 China tour.
At the moment China is pressing hard to limit the sphere of the US dollar circulation. The share of the US currency in China's reserves is shrinking, and in April, 2011 the Chinese Central Bank announced a plan to completely opt out of the US dollar in international clearances. The blow to the US currency domination will not remain unanswered, obviously. Iran is similarly trying to reduce the dollar share in its transactions: an Iranian oil exchange opened in July, 2011, where only Euro and Iran's own currency are accepted. Iran and China are negotiating over the supply of Chinese products in return for Iran's oil, which, among other things, would make it possible to route trade around the sanctions imposed on Iran. The Iranian leader said his country's trade volume with China should reach $100b, and that would render the US plans to isolate Iran meaningless.
The US efforts to undermine stability in the Middle East may in part be attributable to the reckoning that the reconstruction of the region's devastated infrastructures would necessitate massive dollar infusions, the result being the revitalization of the US economy. In 2011, the US strategy aimed at preserving its global leadership started to translate into power-based policies as Washington considers depreciating the dollar holdings among the possible solutions to the crisis problem. A major war can actually serve the purpose. In its wake, the winner would be able to impose its own terms on the rest of the world as it did when the Bretton-Woods system came into being in 1944. For Washington, running the world takes being ready to fight a major war.
Can Iran, given the necessary backing, put an end to the US universal expansion? The question will be addressed in the next paper.
Source: Strategic Culture Foundation (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2012/01/04/why-the-us-needs-a-major-war.html) (04.01.2012)
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 01:16 AM
Sadly the USA is building a new world order without any frontiers
Superior American
01-14-2012, 01:20 AM
US needs lots of things such as weight loss programs in all major cities. Better public school education. Several states need to rethink some of their laws. Less power & control in the hands of corporations etc.
Anthropologique
01-14-2012, 01:22 AM
Corporate fascism is destroying America.
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 01:32 AM
Why cant the USA focus on domestic problems for once? We have plenty of them.
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 01:47 AM
America is Rome. China is Carthage.
The Lawspeaker
01-14-2012, 01:48 AM
America is Rome. China is Carthage.
More like the other way around. America (like Carthage) has had it's day. China (like Rome) is the upstart.
Anthropologique
01-14-2012, 01:50 AM
Why cant the USA focus on domestic problems for once? We have plenty of them.
Quite right!
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 01:58 AM
More like the other way around. America (like Carthage) has had it's day. China (like Rome) is the upstart.
China is an ancient civilization-state that historically has been powerful. Its relative decline came in the industrialism fueled period of Western ascendancy (roughly 1800-2000). America is not even 236 years old, and like the Habsburgs against the Ottomans we will rise to the challenge.
I hate how everyone utterly ignores other rising powers,utterly ridiculous how other powers are ignored for a 'china vs Us' type of conversation.
Laugh at me all you want but i think the one to over take the united states or be the real 'upstart' will surprise everyone;everyone focusing on this 'threat of china' will be completely caught off guard when some of these other powers rise.
Here's a hint: 1 of these powers is in the western hemisphere.
Padre Organtino
01-14-2012, 02:03 AM
I hate how everyone utterly ignores other rising powers,utterly ridiculous how other powers are ignored for a 'china vs Us' type of conversation.
Laugh at me all you want but i think the one to over take the united states or be the real 'upstart' will surprise everyone;everyone focusing on this 'threat of china' will be completely caught off guard when some of these other powers rise.
Here's a hint: 2 of these powers are in the western hemisphere.
I keep my eyes on Brazil:cool:
I keep my eyes on Brazil:cool:
Bingo
Incal
01-14-2012, 02:26 AM
I keep my eyes on Brazil:cool:
Me too, but for other reasons...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hjt8C29r60k/Tk_buPGdz6I/AAAAAAAAAQ0/MmyH7uoaZbw/s1600/bundabrasil.jpg
:D
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 02:28 AM
My guess is that Mexico will get wrapped up in an anti-American coalition led by China. That will have the benefit of turning much of our domestic Hispanic population into a suspect demographic. Brazil will never be ready for primetime.
The possible long term winner may be India, assuming they can avoid getting crippled in a war by China.
As things stand currently Russia could end up getting smashed by a US-European-Indian coalition.
This is all speculative, of course. But I'm inclined to believe war is likely, and this is how the sides are drawing up as the world develops at present.
I'll add that these scenarios are much less likely in a world where American hegemony is unchallenged.
Welcome to multipolarity. Hope you survive it.
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 02:30 AM
More like the other way around. America (like Carthage) has had it's day. China (like Rome) is the upstart.
Exactly.
I was just about to post something similar before I read your post.
The Lawspeaker
01-14-2012, 02:30 AM
Still scaremongering, Joe ? :coffee:
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 02:32 AM
Even if the US freed itself from Zionist and corporate control, changing demographics will still ruin her. The future is in Asia.
sturmwalkure
01-14-2012, 02:33 AM
Whatever the next superpower may be. All I can say is I hope this evil empire (http://rt.com/politics/columns/bridge-too/us-defense-russia-missile/) falls soon. Death to the evil American empire.
sturmwalkure
01-14-2012, 02:35 AM
Even if the US freed itself from Zionist and corporate control, changing demographics will still ruin her. The future is in Asia.
This
“I don't see much future for the Americans... It's a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social inequalities... My feelings against Americanism are feelings of hatred and deep repugnance... Everything about the behavior of American society reveals that it's half Judaized, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together?
- Adolf Hitler
Mercury
01-14-2012, 02:36 AM
Some of the Europeans on this board are nuts.
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 02:37 AM
I keep my eyes on Brazil:cool:
Brazil is doing well for a Latin American country, but it's non-European population is an anchor around its neck. I would be shocked if they one day have a standard of living on par with the US and European countries. I just cant see it.
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 02:44 AM
Whatever the next superpower may be. All I can say is I hope this evil empire (http://rt.com/politics/columns/bridge-too/us-defense-russia-missile/) falls soon. Death to the evil American empire.
It's always amusing to me that neo-Nazis effectively position themselves as less pro-white than even Barack Obama. It is impossible to imagine a worse result for the white race than to see India or China fill a power vacuum created by the destruction of America.
National Socialism - batshit crazy since 1933!
The Lawspeaker
01-14-2012, 02:49 AM
It's always amusing to me that neo-Nazis effectively position themselves as less pro-white than even Barack Obama. It is impossible to imagine a worse result for the white race than to see India or China fill a power vacuum created by the destruction of America.
National Socialism - batshit crazy since 1933!
Joe. You're boring. What's that with you and your Nazi obsession. :rolleyes2: Damn.. did one of the last remaining skinheads happen to bump into you during your bar mitzwa ?
Anyone that doesn't seem to agree with your Pro-Israel (and thus anti-America and anti-European) policies is a Nazi in your eyes.
Brazil is doing well for a Latin American country, but it's non-European population is an anchor around its neck. I would be shocked if they one day have a standard of living on par with the US and European countries. I just cant see it.
Yeah tell that to mexico who will have a higher GDP per capita than all but 3 European countries by 2050. :D
A lot on these boards seem to think that no non-european nation can compete with a white one at all,unless of course the population in question is the mythical East-Asian-Rival-Race(WN and their ilk need to have a rival and China/Japan,etc are it. Every hero needs a Villain counterweight :p ).
It will be interesting to see what many on this board or people with similar views think if/when Brazil and Mexico surpasses European countries such as France,UK,Italy,Spain,etc. in terms of GDP and Per capita GDP :shrug:
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 02:59 AM
Some of the Europeans on this board are nuts.
You'll get no argument from me. A good number of the European members are essentially preaching war against the United States, joined by the weirdo contingent of American fascists. This is a constant on this forum.
And what's revealing is that there is no effort to reprimand them.
I love Europe,but unless its united one way or another it's individual governments or nations will never regain any kind of semblance of power compared to what it once had.
The only way Europe can ever compete with the rest of the world is being united,but this only matters if you want dominance of the world.
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 03:17 AM
Yeah tell that to mexico who will have a higher GDP per capita than all but 3 European countries by 2050. :D
A lot on these boards seem to think that no non-european nation can compete with a white one at all,unless of course the population in question is the mythical East-Asian-Rival-Race(WN and their ilk need to have a rival and China/Japan,etc are it. Every hero needs a Villain counterweight :p ).
It will be interesting to see what many on this board or people with similar views think if/when Brazil and Mexico surpasses European countries such as France,UK,Italy,Spain,etc. in terms of GDP and Per capita GDP :shrug:
Mexico benefits by bordering the US and having a trade pact with them. Oil exports help Mexico too. But as far as Mexico ever becoming a highly educated and prosperous nation? I'll believe when I see it.
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 03:17 AM
I love Europe,but unless its united one way or another it's individual governments or nations will never regain any kind of semblance of power compared to what it once had.
The only way Europe can ever compete with the rest of the world is being united,but this only matters if you want dominance of the world.
In order for the EU to become a serious player it'll need a unified military. That is unlikely to occur. What is likelier is that Europe will remain in alliance with the US in NATO. The long term prospects, given exploding overpopulation in Africa, may see the Congo move north. This issue of African demographics and Chinese rise are things that may ultimately have to be dealt with in some final solution type scenario.
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 03:22 AM
Mexico benefits by bordering the US and having a trade pact with them. Oil exports help Mexico too. But as far as Mexico ever becoming a highly educated and prosperous nation? I'll believe when I see it.
Yet large countries don't need to be especially educated to be a military threat. George Friedman has suggested Mexico may become a military menace to the US. I could see this, especially if they make an alliance with China. Unbeknownst to most, average Mexicans are very anti-American and China and Mexico have already held defense talks. Our very national existence is threatened.
Mexico benefits by bordering the US and having a trade pact with them.
This is true as well,but its not everything. NAFTA was a huge mistake for the united states but a huge boon for mexico,i can't really hold it against the Mexicans though.
Oil exports help Mexico too. But as far as Mexico ever becoming a highly educated and prosperous nation? I'll believe when I see it.
Well,it will happen if the trends continue. What is so far fetched about it? Mexico has made great strides in education,hell Brazil just added 30 million people to the middle class in around 10 years.
In 40 years when mexico has a higher GDP then all but 3 euro countries and is the 5th largest economy in the world what will you say then? :confused:
Plus you have a fifth column in the south west that just might break a way at the right moment :shrug:
I'm sure if any racialists on this board live to see it most will attribute it to being the Euro genes that made mexico a success :D
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 03:29 AM
Yet large countries don't need to be especially educated to be a military threat. George Friedman has suggested Mexico may become a military menace to the US. I could see this, especially if they make an alliance with China. Unbeknownst to most, average Mexicans are very anti-American and China and Mexico have already held defense talks. Our very national existence is threatened.
Why would Mexico want to start a military confrontation with the US? It would be a no win situation. That country has too many internal problems to be a threat to anyone.
Why would Mexico want to start a military confrontation with the US? It would be a no win situation. That country has too many internal problems to be a threat to anyone.
The real question is why conquer territory with guns and tanks when you can do it with a womb? :eek:
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 03:32 AM
This is true as well,but its not everything. NAFTA was a huge mistake for the united states but a huge boon for mexico,i can't really hold it against the Mexicans though.
Well,it will happen if the trends continue. What is so far fetched about it? Mexico has made great strides in education,hell Brazil just added 30 million people to the middle class in around 10 years.
In 40 years when mexico has a higher GDP then all but 3 euro countries and is the 5th largest economy in the world what will you say then? :confused:
Plus you have a fifth column in the south west that just might break a way at the right moment :shrug:
I'm sure if any racialists on this board live to see it most will attribute it to being the Euro genes that made mexico a success :D
The Mexicans can't do anything right but traffic drugs and human beings. The government, police force and businesses are corrupt. Products made in Mexico are garbage.
Drawing-live
01-14-2012, 03:34 AM
Oh how i wish just for a brief moment china or russia or india or iran brazil etc, ruled the world just to watch what these whiny ungreateful american haters have to say then.
Would be interesting sight to see.
America is ready to protect europe at anytime, and if it wasnt for american protection putin and china will march through every capital european city today without a problem because europe has become a big pussy, and ironicaly these fuckers wish for the end of america.
What a discrase.
The Mexicans can't do anything right but traffic drugs and human beings.
Lets be honest and say that the USA has a wee bit of a role in all this ;)
The government, police force and businesses are corrupt. Products made in Mexico are garbage.
All this could be said for china yet half the fuckin world buys its shit :(
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 03:37 AM
Oh how i wish just for a brief moment china or russia or india or iran brazil etc, ruled the world just to watch what these whiny ungreateful american haters have to say then.
Would be interesting sight to see.
America is ready to protect europe at anytime, and if it wasnt for american protection putin and china will march through every capital european city today without a problem because europe has become a big pussy, and ironicaly these fuckers wish for the end of america.
What a discrase.
America is the reason for China's growing power.
Superior American
01-14-2012, 03:37 AM
^ Mexico does not need to become educated or a military power house. All they need to do is keep flooding America illegaly. The US might just let them stay if they have a clean record AND also pay for their higher education, lol. Fuck, if i was Mexican and knew America did shit like this. I'd cross the border illegaly myself, bring the whole family, and have 9 children.
Óttar
01-14-2012, 03:37 AM
Our very national existence is threatened.
:pound:
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 03:37 AM
Why would Mexico want to start a military confrontation with the US? It would be a no win situation. That country has too many internal problems to be a threat to anyone.
To reconquer lost territories, with the resources that are involved, what else?
Mexico will never take large chunks of the US through immigration. The US will crush any secession attempt by force. To take the country they'll need military power, and foreign assistance...
Supreme American
01-14-2012, 03:38 AM
Whatever the next superpower may be. All I can say is I hope this evil empire (http://rt.com/politics/columns/bridge-too/us-defense-russia-missile/) falls soon. Death to the evil American empire.
You're talking about a white country that has worked in our interests being destroyed. Why are you cheering for this?
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 03:39 AM
Aztlan is what mexicans call the US southwest
Supreme American
01-14-2012, 03:41 AM
Aztlan is what mexicans call the US southwest
Their claim to it is a joke. It's a bunch of mythological feel-good puffery.
Anthropologique
01-14-2012, 03:41 AM
I hate how everyone utterly ignores other rising powers,utterly ridiculous how other powers are ignored for a 'china vs Us' type of conversation.
Laugh at me all you want but i think the one to over take the united states or be the real 'upstart' will surprise everyone;everyone focusing on this 'threat of china' will be completely caught off guard when some of these other powers rise.
Here's a hint: 1 of these powers is in the western hemisphere.
Brazil has astronomical potential.
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 03:43 AM
America is the reason for China's growing power.
No, China is the reason for China's growing power, assisted by European and American trade links and distribution channels plus Russian arms. Most Chinese growth is domestic. They have risen because Deng decided to dump Maoist policies and take China out of isolation.
Drawing-live
01-14-2012, 03:44 AM
America is the reason for China's growing power.Regardless, a european should never wish harm or preach hate towards america, since america historicaly has wnnted the best fir europe.
They love and protect everything european, and still take shit and addittudes from lots of ungreatful whiny europeans.
Its a shame.
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 03:44 AM
Their claim to it is a joke. It's a bunch of mythological feel-good puffery.
The claim is a joke for NOW
You're talking about a white country that has worked in our interests being destroyed. Why are you cheering for this?
White country:63% White
White country in 38 years:45% White
Brazil has astronomical potential.
Anyone with eyes can see it,but no piece of shit mestizo nation can ever compete with lily white countries :wink
These people who think like this are in for a big surprise :coffee:
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 03:45 AM
Lets be honest and say that the USA has a wee bit of a role in all this ;)
I agree, the US is guilty of being a better place to live than Mexico, that's why Mexicans are moving there. As far as drug trafficking, US law enforcement does a great job cracking down on domestic drug production. Meth labs have declined drastically in number, now the main source for Meth comes from Mexico. It can be manufactured there with little fear of the corrupt and incompetent Mexican police.
Suppressing domestic illegal drug operations in America and Mexico's failure to stop it in their country is the reason trafficking drugs north of the border is so lucrative.
All this could be said for china yet half the fuckin world buys its shit :(
Chinese made products aren't crap though. Chances are, your smart phone and laptop was made in China. Mexicans are great at hanging drywall and mowing lawns, but fall flat with complex tasks.
The Lawspeaker
01-14-2012, 03:46 AM
Regardless, a european should never wish harm or preach hate towards america, since america historicaly has wnnted the best fir europe.
They love and protect everything european, and still take shit and addittudes from lots of ungreatful whiny europeans.
Its a shame.
Yes they always wanted the best for Europe.. bla bla bla. :rolleyes2:
They always wanted the best for their own big banks (we are after all a market) and their own big business.
They do it all for (heavy explicit) like him:
http://cdn2.dailycaller.com/2010/09/12eea06b5bbd4890b97300d1753db690.jpg
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 03:48 AM
There is no need for America to put missile shields in eastern europe
The Lawspeaker
01-14-2012, 03:50 AM
There is no need for America to put missile shields in eastern europe
There is need for one in South-Eastern Europe and Western Europe though. If anything: we should be working with the Russians.
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 03:52 AM
White country:63% White
White country in 38 years:45% White
Even at 5 percent that'll be 5 percent more than China and India.
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 03:53 AM
No, China is the reason for China's growing power, assisted by European and American trade links and distribution channels plus Russian arms. Most Chinese growth is domestic. They have risen because Deng decided to dump Mapist policies and take China out of isolation.
Trade with the US is what sparked China's rise to prominence. Its domestic economy started to grow relatively recently because of the wealth it had accumulated from decades of massive trade surpluses with the US. That money was used to improve China's infrastructure.
The US government and US corporations made China richer and America's working class poorer.
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 03:53 AM
There is need for one in South-Eastern Europe and Western Europe though. If anything: we should be working with the Russians.
The problem with Russia is so many people in the eastern block hate them and there policies.
Drawing-live
01-14-2012, 03:56 AM
There is need for one in South-Eastern Europe and Western Europe though. If anything: we should be working with the Russians.You're blind.
Its russia that western europe should worry more also.
If it wasnt for america after WW2 eastern block border might have included your country france and the rest excluding england.
The Lawspeaker
01-14-2012, 03:57 AM
The problem with Russia is so many people in the eastern block hate them and there policies.
Yap. But still: they will come to hate America and Israel even more when they will be forced to privatize whatever they have and when they their sons and daughters come home dead, wounded, traumatized for life because of some war they had to fight in.
They will come to hate them when they realize that the people that are in control do not represent them but only an elite - an elite that calls in Africans and other foreigners to "make up for the labor shortage".
I agree, the US is guilty of being a better place to live than Mexico, that's why Mexicans are moving there. As far as drug trafficking, US law enforcement does a great job cracking down on domestic drug production. Meth labs have declined drastically in number, now the main source for Meth comes from Mexico. It can be manufactured there with little fear of the corrupt and incompetent Mexican police.
No arguments from on this. Though it is interesting that mexican immigration has now pretty much stopped.
Chinese made products aren't crap though. Chances are, your smart phone and laptop was made in China. Mexicans are great at hanging drywall and mowing lawns, but fall flat with complex tasks.
Among the most important industrial manufacturers in Mexico is the automotive industry, whose standards of quality are internationally recognized. The automobile sector in Mexico differs from that in other Latin American countries and developing nations in that it does not function as a mere assembly manufacturer. The industry produces technologically complex components and engages in some research and development activities, an example of that is the new Volkswagen Jetta model with up to 70% of parts designed in Mexico.[30][61] The "Big Three" (General Motors, Ford and Chrysler) have been operating in Mexico since the 1930s, while Volkswagen and Nissan built their plants in the 1960s.[62] Later, Toyota, Honda, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz joined in. Given the high requirements of North American components in the industry, many European and Asian parts suppliers have also moved to Mexico: in Puebla alone, 70 industrial part-makers cluster around Volkswagen.[30] The relatively small domestic car industry still is represented by DINA Camiones S.A. de C.V., a manufacturer of trucks, busses and military vehicles, which through domestic production and purchases of foreign bus manufacturers has become the largest bus manufacturer in the world; Vehizero that builds hybrid trucks[63] and the new car companies Mastretta design that builds the Mastretta MXT sports car and Autobuses King that plans to build 10000 microbuses by 2015,[64][65][66] nevertheless new car companies are emerging among them CIMEX that has developed a sport utility truck, the Conin, and it is to be released in September 2010 in Mexico's national auto show,[67] And the new electric car maker Grupo Electrico Motorizado[68]
The electronics industry of Mexico has grown enormously within the last decade. Mexico has the sixth largest electronics industry in the world after China, United States, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan. Mexico is the second largest exporter of electronics to the United Sates where it exported $71.4 billion worth of electronics in 2011.[78] The Mexican electronics industry is dominated by the manufacture and OEM design of televisions, displays, computers, mobile phones, circuit boards, semiconductors, electronic appliances, communications equipment and LCD modules. The Mexican electronics industry grew 20% between 2010 and 2011, up from its constant growth rate of 17% between 2003 and 2009.[78] Currently electronics represent 30% of Mexico's none petroleum based exports.[78]
The design and manufacture of flat panel plasma, LCD and LED televisions is the single largest sector of the Mexican electronics industry, representing 25% of Mexico's electronics export revenue.[78] In 2009 Mexico surpassed South Korea and China as the largest manufacturer of televisions,[79][80] with Sony,[81] Toshiba,[82] Samsung,[83] Sharp (through Semex),[84][85] Zenith[86]LG,[87] Lanix,[88] TCL,[89] RCA, [90] Phillips,[91] Elcoteq,[92] Tatung,[93] Panasonic,[94] and Vizio[84][95] manufacturing CRT, LCD, LED and Plasma televisions in Mexico. Due to Mexico's position as the largest manufacturer of television it is known as the television capital of the world[84] in the electronics industry
Since 2008 Mexico has been the third largest manufacturer of mobile phones[78] after China and South Korea with companies such as Lanix,[96] Sony Ericsson, Motorola,[97] Samsung, LG, Nokia,[98] Sharp, Zonda,[99] Foxconn[100] BlackBerry,[101] manufacturing mobile phones in the country.[102]
Mexico is the third largest manufacturer of computers in the world with both domestic companies such as Lanix,[103] Texa,[104] Meebox,[105] Spaceit[106], Kyoto[107] and foreign companies such as Dell,[108][109] Sony, HP,[110] Acer[111] Compaq,[112] Samsung and Lenovo[113][114] manufacturing various types of computers across the country.
The success and rapid growth of the Mexican electronics sector is driven primarily by the relatively low cost of manufacturing and design in Mexico; its strategic position as a major consumer electronics market coupled with its proximity to both the large North American and South American markets whom Mexico shares free trade agreements with; government support in the form of low business taxes, simplified access to loans and capital for both foreign multinational and domestic startup tech based firms; and a very large pool of highly skilled, educated labor across all sectors of the tech industry. There are almost half a million (451,000) students enrolled in electronics engineering programs[130] with an additional 114,000 electronics engineers entering the Mexican workforce each year[78] and Mexico had over half a million (580,000) certified electronic engineering professionals employed in 2007.[80] From the late 1990s the Mexican electronics industry began to shift away from simple line assembly to more advanced work such as research, design, and the manufacture of advanced electronics systems such as LCD panels, semiconductors, printed circuit boards, microelectronics, microprocessors, chipsets and heavy electronic industrial equipment and in 2006 the number of certified engineers being graduated annually in Mexico surpassed that of the United States.Many Korean, Japanese and American appliances sold in the US are actually of Mexican design and origin but sold under the OEM's client names.[132][133] In 2008 one out of every four consumer appliances sold in the United States was of Mexican design.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Mexico#Industry
The Lawspeaker
01-14-2012, 03:58 AM
You're blind.
Its russia that western europe should worry more also.
If it wasnt for america after WW2 eastern block border might have included your country france and the rest excluding england.
LOL I actually like the thought better then being in league with the Jewsa. Because at least, for the moment part, Eastern Europe is something.. we are becoming less and less thanks to those that run our joint and people like you they import by the shipload: immigrants.
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 03:59 AM
Trade with the US is what sparked China's rise to prominence. Its domestic economy started to grow relatively recently because of the wealth it had accumulated from decades of massive trade surpluses with the US. That money was used to improve China's infrastructure.
The US government and US corporations made China richer and America's working class poorer.
No, again, most of China's economic growth is fueled by domestic enterprise, not foreign investment, and the EU has more dealings with China than the US does.
You talk about a China, a huge country with a long history of great achievement, as if they're total incompetents incapable of anything without American corporations.
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 04:03 AM
American politicians have a problem with Russia because it doesn't fully cooperate with the US in the Middle East. Europe is not threatened by Russia. I doubt the Germans and French consider Russia a threat.
American foreign policy focus is protecting Israel, not Europe.
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 04:04 AM
LOL I actually like the thought better then being in league with the Jewsa. Because at least, for the moment part, Eastern Europe is something.. we are becoming less and less thanks to those that run our joint and people like you they import by the shipload: European.
Yes you are right. Eastern Europe is the best part of Europe racially.
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 04:04 AM
No arguments from on this. Though it is interesting that mexican immigration has now pretty much stopped.
The US Border Patrol apprehended over 400,000 illegal aliens by the end of the last fiscal year.
You talk about a China, a huge country with a long history of great achievement, as if they're total incompetents incapable of anything without American corporations.
Let me fix that for you
You talk about a non-white country, a huge country with a long history of great achievement,as if they're total incompetents incapable of anything without White DNA.
:D
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 04:07 AM
What? I live near our southern border and I can tell you that this is far from true.
The Lawspeaker
01-14-2012, 04:07 AM
American politicians have a problem with Russia because it doesn't fully cooperate with the US in the Middle East. Europe is not threatened by Russia. I doubt the Germans and French consider Russia a threat.
American foreign policy focus is protecting Israel, not Europe.
Spot on.
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 04:08 AM
Spot on.
Belarus is a major pain in the ass for these New world order folks also.
The US Border Patrol apprehended over 400,000 illegal aliens by the end of the last fiscal year.
What? I live near our southern border and I can tell you that this is far from true.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/what_if_the_mexicans_stop_coming_N2mHNDEUFdJy55UlT roJSP
America has been peopled by vast surges of migration -- from the British Isles in the 18th century, from Ireland and Germany in the 19th century, from Eastern and Southern Europe in the early 20th century, and from Latin America and Asia in the last three decades.
Going back in history, almost no one predicted that these surges of migration would begin -- and almost no one predicted that they'd stop when they did.
Thus when the 1965 Immigration Reform Act was passed, almost no one predicted that we'd have massive immigration from Mexico. Experts told us that immigrants came in large numbers only from Europe.
Wrong: From 1980 to 2008, more than 5 million Mexicans legally entered the country, and Mexicans account for about 60 percent of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants here.
Policymakers have assumed that the flow of Mexicans would continue at this high level. But now evidence is accumulating that this vast migration is ending.
The Pew Hispanic Center, using Census statistics, has estimated that illegal Mexican entrants have dropped from 525,000 annually in 2000-04 to 100,000 in 2010.
"The flow has already stopped," Douglas Massey of Princeton's Mexican Migration Project recently told The New York Times. "The net traffic has gone to zero and is probably a little bit negative." One reason is the deep recession and slow economic recovery here. Tens of thousands of construction jobs have disappeared. Foreclosures on mortgages that should never have been granted have been especially high among Hispanics.
State laws, like Arizona's requirement of the federal e-Verify system to check on immigration status of new hires, have clearly had some effect. The cost of crossing the border illegally has risen sharply.
The Pew Hispanic Center estimates the 2010 illegal population at 11.2 million, down from the 2007 peak of 12 million and about the same as in 2005. It's probably lower today.
Even more important, Mexico has changed. Its birth rate has fallen from 7 children per woman in 1971 to 3.2 in 1990 and 2 in 2010.
Mexico has finally become a majority middle-class country, former Foreign Minister Jorge Castaneda argues in his recent book "Mañana Forever?" It has more cars and TV sets than households now, and most Mexicans have credit cards and cellphones.
A boom in higher education, especially in technical schools, has led to increasing numbers of well-educated Mexicans who have no need to go north to live a comfortable and even affluent life. Mexico has grown its way out of poverty.
The historic experience has been that countries cease generating large numbers of immigrants when they reach a certain economic level, as Germany did in the 1880s. Mass migration from Puerto Rico, whose residents are US citizens, ended in the early 1960s, when incomes reached a third of those on the mainland.
All of which has implications for US policy. It seems clear that tougher enforcement measures, like requiring use of e-Verify, can reduce the number of illegals here. Returning to Mexico is a more attractive alternative than it used to be.
Plus, the desire of legal immigrants to bring in collateral relatives under family-reunification provisions is likely to diminish. That means we can shift our immigration quotas to higher-skill immigrants, as is now done by Canada and Australia.
Such a change would be in line with the new situation. Mexican immigrants have tended to be less educated and lower-skill than immigrants from other Latin or Asian countries. Lower Mexican immigration means fewer low-skilled immigrants. Employers of such immigrants may have to adjust their business models, which they may already be doing. Government, however, adjusts more slowly.
President Obama has been calling for immigration legislation similar to what President George W. Bush sought, geared to a status quo that no longer exists and seems unlikely to return. That's going nowhere. Sooner or later we should adjust the law to address the emerging reality.
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 04:11 AM
The EU told Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko to abolish the death penalty in his country. He told them as soon as your friends the Americans abandon it then we will too :)
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 04:11 AM
No, again, most of China's economic growth is fueled by domestic enterprise, not foreign investment, and the EU has more dealings with China than the US does.
You talk about a China, a huge country with a long history of great achievement, as if they're total incompetents incapable of anything without American corporations.
I never said that, but the fact is American companies and American technology is the biggest reason for China's quick rise to power. Name one major Chinese company off the top of your head? Nearly all Chinese made products are under license from American, Japanese and South Korean companies that are exported to the US.
I have no doubt China can sustain this with less foreign investment in the future, but without foreign investment and trade surpluses over the past 35 years or so, China would not have passed Japan in GDP this soon.
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 04:14 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/what_if_the_mexicans_stop_coming_N2mHNDEUFdJy55UlT roJSP
Mexicans are 3rd and 4th generation here now so does it really matter?
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 04:14 AM
Let me fix that for you
:D
Well, whatever may be said for Brazil and Mexico in the coming years, they certainly don't have the track record of the Chinese historically. Brazil's calling card has been miscegenation, total moral depravity, and massive violent crime. Mexico has been a failed state consumed by internal convulsions and an ever leaving population.
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 04:18 AM
Belarus is a major pain in the ass for these New world order folks also.
Better 'New World Order folks' than China buttboy. Lukashenko even wants to open a Chinatown in Minsk.
Mexicans are 3rd and 4th generation here now so does it really matter?
For a racialist it does..i think.
Well, whatever may be said for Brazil and Mexico in the coming years, they certainly don't have the track record of the Chinese historically. Brazil's calling card has been miscegenation, total moral depravity, and massive violent crime. Mexico has been a failed state consumed by internal convulsions and an ever leaving population.
This is all true...but they are rising. No doubt about it IMO,the best bet is not to underestimate these powers just because they are non-white or miscegenated.
Hubris will be our downfall.
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 04:20 AM
Illegal immigration from Mexico declined some because of the recession in the US, but legal immigration from Latin America is still very high. In fact, most Hispanics that move to the US do so legally.
I wouldn't trust America media coverage of illegal immigration. They're trying to play it down to quiet opposition to amnesty. Illegal and legal immigration from the third world remains a big problem.
Illegal immigration from Mexico declined some because of the recession in the US, but legal immigration from Latin America is still very high. In fact, most Hispanics that move to the US do so legally.
I wouldn't trust America media coverage of illegal immigration. They're trying to play it down to quiet opposition to amnesty. Illegal and legal immigration from the third world remains a big problem.
That article i posted was for legal immigration. Immigration from mexico is now down to a trickle of what it once was.
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 04:23 AM
Better 'New World Order folks' than China buttboy. Lukashenko even wants to open a Chinatown in Minsk.
Belarus is one of the whitest countries on earth. It might be the whitest
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 04:28 AM
For a racialist it does..i think.
This is all true...but they are rising. No doubt about it IMO,the best bet is not to underestimate these powers just because they are non-white or miscegenated.
Hubris will be our downfall.
Brazil is rising from shit hole to semi shit hole status. That's about it. It's black and mixed race population will still live in poverty.
If Brazil ever does match the US in per capita GDP, it wont be because they raised their standard of living to that of a modern industrialized country, it will instead be the US standard of living declining to their level.
Brazil is rising from shit hole to semi shit hole status. That's about it. It's black and mixed race population will still live in poverty
How black is brazil really? I know of admixture studies that have shown that the vast majority of brazilians are majority Euro in DNA.
If Brazil ever does match the US in per capita GDP, it wont be because they raised their standard of living to that of a modern industrialized country, it will instead be the US standard of living declining to their level.
hu·bris-noun
excessive pride or self-confidence; arrogance.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hubris
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 04:32 AM
That article i posted was for legal immigration. Immigration from mexico is now down to a trickle of what it once was.
That's good, I hope it continues. Mexico's birthrate is also declining. There's still the problem with immigration from other Latin American countries.
Contra Mundum
01-14-2012, 04:38 AM
How black is brazil really? I know of admixture studies that have shown that the vast majority of brazilians are majority Euro in DNA.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hubris
Poverty is a huge problem in Brazil. Tens of millions live in slums. Poverty is also a big problem in China. A lot of people would be surprised by that. It's still a poor country in per capita GDP.
Poverty is a huge problem in Brazil. Tens of millions live in slums. Poverty is also a big problem in China. A lot of people would be surprised by that. It's still a poor country in per capita GDP.
No one is denying this,Brazil has a huge problem with Favelas,but Brazil is improving at record pace. 30 million added to the middle class in 10 years,that is a wonderful accomplishment.
Either way Brazil has a a lot of potential to be a great power( I don't believe in superpowers)surpassing the majority of Euro nations in Economic and military power.
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 04:54 AM
Illegal immigration from Mexico declined some because of the recession in the US, but legal immigration from Latin America is still very high. In fact, most Hispanics that move to the US do so legally.
I wouldn't trust America media coverage of illegal immigration. They're trying to play it down to quiet opposition to amnesty. Illegal and legal immigration from the third world remains a big problem.
I agree. That article zack posted even said we got 100,000 illegals in 2010 and then the article hack has the temerity to say illegal inflow has 'stopped'. LOL.
And we still had the Border Patrol catching like 447,000 illegals last year.
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 05:01 AM
I agree. That article zack posted even said we got 100,000 illegals in 2010 and then the article hack has the temerity to say illegal inflow has 'stopped'. LOL.
And we still had the Border Patrol catching like 447,000 illegals last year.
Hopefully the Mexicans flow will be reduced greatly. I am tired of seeing them waiting in Home Depot parking lots waiting for people to pick them up to do yard work. Not to mention they look completely filthy
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 05:02 AM
Belarus is one of the whitest countries on earth. It might be the whitest
Mainly because no one wants to move there. Luka actively wants Chinks in Minsk.
I agree. That article zack posted even said we got 100,000 illegals in 2010 and then the article hack has the temerity to say illegal inflow has 'stopped'. LOL.
And we still had the Border Patrol catching like 447,000 illegals last year.
Hopefully the Mexicans flow will be reduced greatly. I am tired of seeing them waiting in Home Depot parking lots waiting for people to pick them up to do yard work. Not to mention they look completely filthy
AGUA NEGRA, Mexico — The extraordinary Mexican migration that delivered millions of illegal immigrants to the United States over the past 30 years has sputtered to a trickle, and research points to a surprising cause: unheralded changes in Mexico that have made staying home more attractive.
A growing body of evidence suggests that a mix of developments — expanding economic and educational opportunities, rising border crime and shrinking families — are suppressing illegal traffic as much as economic slowdowns or immigrant crackdowns in the United States.
Here in the red-earth highlands of Jalisco, one of Mexico’s top three states for emigration over the past century, a new dynamic has emerged. For a typical rural family like the Orozcos, heading to El Norte without papers is no longer an inevitable rite of passage. Instead, their homes are filling up with returning relatives; older brothers who once crossed illegally are awaiting visas; and the youngest Orozcos are staying put.
“I’m not going to go to the States because I’m more concerned with my studies,” said Angel Orozco, 18. Indeed, at the new technological institute where he is earning a degree in industrial engineering, all the students in a recent class said they were better educated than their parents — and that they planned to stay in Mexico rather than go to the United States.
Douglas S. Massey, co-director of the Mexican Migration Project at Princeton, an extensive, long-term survey in Mexican emigration hubs, said his research showed that interest in heading to the United States for the first time had fallen to its lowest level since at least the 1950s. “No one wants to hear it, but the flow has already stopped,” Mr. Massey said, referring to illegal traffic. “For the first time in 60 years, the net traffic has gone to zero and is probably a little bit negative.”
The decline in illegal immigration, from a country responsible for roughly 6 of every 10 illegal immigrants in the United States, is stark. The Mexican census recently discovered four million more people in Mexico than had been projected, which officials attributed to a sharp decline in emigration.
American census figures analyzed by the nonpartisan Pew Hispanic Center also show that the illegal Mexican population in the United States has shrunk and that fewer than 100,000 illegal border-crossers and visa-violators from Mexico settled in the United States in 2010, down from about 525,000 annually from 2000 to 2004. Although some advocates for more limited immigration argue that the Pew studies offer estimates that do not include short-term migrants, most experts agree that far fewer illegal immigrants have been arriving in recent years.
The question is why. Experts and American politicians from both parties have generally looked inward, arguing about the success or failure of the buildup of border enforcement and tougher laws limiting illegal immigrants’ rights — like those recently passed in Alabama and Arizona. Deportations have reached record highs as total border apprehensions and apprehensions of Mexicans have fallen by more than 70 percent since 2000.
But Mexican immigration has always been defined by both the push (from Mexico) and the pull (of the United States). The decision to leave home involves a comparison, a wrenching cost-benefit analysis, and just as a Mexican baby boom and economic crises kicked off the emigration waves in the 1980s and ’90s, research now shows that the easing of demographic and economic pressures is helping keep departures in check.
In simple terms, Mexican families are smaller than they had once been. The pool of likely migrants is shrinking. Despite the dominance of the Roman Catholic Church in Mexico, birth control efforts have pushed down the fertility rate to about 2 children per woman from 6.8 in 1970, according to government figures. So while Mexico added about one million new potential job seekers annually in the 1990s, since 2007 that figure has fallen to an average of 800,000, according to government birth records. By 2030, it is expected to drop to 300,000.
Even in larger families like the Orozcos’ — Angel is the 9th of 10 children — the migration calculation has changed. Crossing “mojado,” wet or illegally, has become more expensive and more dangerous, particularly with drug cartels dominating the border. At the same time, educational and employment opportunities have greatly expanded in Mexico. Per capita gross domestic product and family income have each jumped more than 45 percent since 2000, according to one prominent economist, Roberto Newell. Despite all the depictions of Mexico as “nearly a failed state,” he argued, “the conventional wisdom is wrong.”
A significant expansion of legal immigration — aided by American consular officials — is also under way. Congress may be debating immigration reform, but in Mexico, visas without a Congressionally mandated cap on how many people can enter have increased from 2006 to 2010, compared with the previous five years.
State Department figures show that Mexicans who have become American citizens have legally brought in 64 percent more immediate relatives, 220,500 from 2006 through 2010, compared with the figures for the previous five years. Tourist visas are also being granted at higher rates of around 89 percent, up from 67 percent, while American farmers have legally hired 75 percent more temporary workers since 2006.
Edward McKeon, the top American official for consular affairs in Mexico, said he had focused on making legal passage to the United States easier in an effort to prevent people from giving up and going illegally. He has even helped those who were previously illegal overcome bans on entering the United States.
“If people are trying to do the right thing,” Mr. McKeon said, “we need to send the signal that we’ll reward them.”
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/07/06/world/americas/immigration.html?hp
Here is a article from the new your times,granted New York is a left leaning rag :shrug:
Siberyak
01-14-2012, 05:08 AM
Mainly because no one wants to move there. Luka actively wants Chinks in Minsk.
There is nothing wrong with no one wanting to move to a white country.
Superior American
01-14-2012, 05:32 AM
Hopefully the Mexicans flow will be reduced greatly. I am tired of seeing them waiting in Home Depot parking lots waiting for people to pick them up to do yard work. Not to mention they look completely filthy
I would like to see how the 2011 statistics look because i know 2010 62% of new residents in America were Mexican and they still account for the majority of illegals. Even if it were to slow down a lot. Wouldn't do much, they have the birth rates on their side. Lots think its all illegals & new immigrants accounting for such huge increases of Mexican-Americans. No, their birthrates have a lot to do with the rising population. Their birthrates actualy account for more of the increase in population than new residents do.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/graph.png
Mexican Americans are already catching up to African Americans. With the high Mexican-American birthrate assuming it keeps up the same pace, in a few years they will most likely overcome the African Americans and become the largest minority group in America. If you were to include all latinos. They're already the largest minority group. The Hispanic American birth rate is twice as high as other Americans.
I would like to see how the 2011 statistics look because i know 2010 62% of new residents in America were Mexican and they still account for the majority of illegals. Even if it were to slow down a lot. Wouldn't do much, they have the birth rates on their side. Lots think its all illegals & new immigrants accounting for such huge increases of Mexican-Americans. No, their birthrates have a lot to do with the rising population. Their birthrates actualy account for more of the increase in population than new residents do.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/graph.png
Mexican Americans are already catching up to African Americans. With the high Mexican-American birthrate assuming it keeps up the same pace, in a few years they will most likely overcome the African Americans and become the largest minority group in America. If you were to include all latinos. They're already the largest minority group. The Hispanic American birth rate is twice as high as other Americans.
The hispanic birth rate has fallen to 2.3 now. Just above the replacement level of 2.1,whites have a level of 1.8
Aces High
01-14-2012, 06:20 AM
Why The US Needs a Major War.?
So in the history books they can write that they actually won one on their own............things arent looking good though.
Joe McCarthy
01-14-2012, 07:24 AM
Why The US Needs a Major War.?
So in the history books they can write that they actually won one on their own............things arent looking good though.
I take it they didn't teach about the Mexican-American War, Spanish-American War, etc., in Rhodesia or wherever you got your 'education'.
You are st00pid.
The Lawspeaker
01-14-2012, 07:25 AM
I take it they don't teach about the Mexican-American War, Spanish-American War, etc., in Rhodesia.
You are st00pid.
Against two nations that were less technologically advanced and had less financial resources. Well.. like the German invasion of the Netherlands (1940) was fair play, hmmm ?
Why don't you join the IDF, chickenhawk ?
Drawing-live
01-14-2012, 12:26 PM
Lol.. we are becoming less and less thanks to those that run our joint and people like you they import by the shipload.You keep consistantly atacking me, and making it sound as if people like me have raped your family bro.
I asure you as albanian i lived throughout europe and usa since early age, all on my own, hard for you to believe but i have never commited any crimes and i have paid taxes earned an honest living and i'm also american citizent.
I also have never used wellfear or the help of any state goverment, ever.
If you had been dealt the same hand as mine and follow my footsteps i'm sure a sore whiny loser like you would have cried for help screaming like a little bitch.
So people like me, are more european then you by genes looks and most importantly we still carry the strong old european spirit, unlike you whiny spoiled little bitch that all you know to do best is whine, whine whine.
If africans arabs etc invaded my city and my fathers land, people like me would do something about it, unlike you sore loser that keep barking on the wrong tree consistantly, when infact we have done nothing to you.
Fuck off you ugy insect.
Ville
01-14-2012, 04:11 PM
If the current geopolitical dynamics persists, the global leadership change can be expected by 2025, and the only way the US can derail the process being to ignite a major war…
I reject this thesis. It’s wrong because it assumes the US geopolitics is driven by the psychology of previous centuries.
More than ever, global elites are now vested in the new economic paradigm of ongoing and increasing pace of economic realignment. Policy makers today cannot decouple national interests from the need to preserve the world machinery as one functioning economic entity.
gandalf
01-14-2012, 07:56 PM
I love Europe,but unless its united one way or another it's individual governments or nations will never regain any kind of semblance of power compared to what it once had.
The only way Europe can ever compete with the rest of the world is being united,but this only matters if you want dominance of the world.
It is weird this obsession of dominance of the world ! :mad:
It is not what people in general want as they just want to leave peacefully
in their home and land and hope the same for everybody .
Sure sometime some brutality is necessary to keep the peace ,
but why dominate other people , for greediness probably .
RagnarLodbrok666
02-02-2012, 12:13 AM
It is weird this obsession of dominance of the world ! :mad:
It is not what people in general want as they just want to leave peacefully
in their home and land and hope the same for everybody .
Sure sometime some brutality is necessary to keep the peace ,
but why dominate other people , for greediness probably .
Sorry didn't mean to like your post only meant to reply to it. Honestly my only hopes for the future militarily speaking is that the beafing with Iran finally gets resolved and goes away and america's victories in Somalia give america a foot hold against potential chinese colonialism in Africa as well as possible arab colonialism there as well. I mostly blame Saudi Arabia for all the disagreement and bad blood going on between america and Iran, this needs to stop so as to see if and when China needs to be kept in check mate.
Siberyak
02-02-2012, 02:01 AM
Sorry didn't mean to like your post only meant to reply to it. Honestly my only hopes for the future militarily speaking is that the beafing with Iran finally gets resolved and goes away and america's victories in Somalia give america a foot hold against potential chinese colonialism in Africa as well as possible arab colonialism there as well. I mostly blame Saudi Arabia for all the disagreement and bad blood going on between america and Iran, this needs to stop so as to see if and when China needs to be kept in check mate.
Why do you speak like a neo-con on fox news? I had friends come back form Iraq completely changed and fucked up in the head from what that saw. We are not the worlds policeman. Tehran is over 4,000 miles away from Washington DC. Internal problems come first and foremost.
RagnarLodbrok666
02-03-2012, 04:02 AM
Why do you speak like a neo-con on fox news? I had friends come back form Iraq completely changed and fucked up in the head from what that saw. We are not the worlds policeman. Tehran is over 4,000 miles away from Washington DC. Internal problems come first and foremost.
Of course internal problems come first and foremost. The whole idea behind my post was to list pragmatic reasons why Iran must be left alone by the USA and why the american alliance with saudi arabia ought to be done away with. :lol00002:
Thraex
02-03-2012, 04:18 AM
Time to form a EU military unifying European countries' land forces, air force and navy into a single unified force. How about that for a new powerful bloc allied with America to suppress possible rise of Chinese unipolarity. :coffee:
Aces High
02-03-2012, 08:07 AM
Time to form a EU military unifying European countries' land forces, air force and navy into a single unified force. How about that for a new powerful bloc allied with America
Allied against America.....how about that.
The Lawspeaker
02-03-2012, 09:42 AM
Allied against America.....how about that.
Could work too. But I think that Europe should only look at America for trade and develop closer relations with the other trading partners like China and Brazil. And of course Russia.
Siberyak
02-03-2012, 09:47 AM
I can't wait for unrest and riots in this country. I'm gonna loot anything I can get my hands on
The Lawspeaker
02-03-2012, 09:48 AM
I can't wait for unrest and riots in this country. I'm gonna loot anything I can get my hands on
Nigger.
Siberyak
02-03-2012, 09:49 AM
Nigger.
my payback to society
The Lawspeaker
02-03-2012, 09:50 AM
my payback to society
Nigger. You even have that sense of entitlement. What's it, mai homeboi, did the white man hold you down ?
Siberyak
02-03-2012, 09:52 AM
Nigger. You even have that sense of entitlement. What's it, mai homeboi, did the white man hold you down ?
It's the american way
The Lawspeaker
02-03-2012, 09:54 AM
It's the american way
No you're a nigger. Even in America they shoot rioters in the streets and I hope that the local national guard gives you and your homeboys the bullet if you would even dare to touch someone's property.
Siberyak
02-03-2012, 09:56 AM
No you're a nigger. Even in America they shoot rioters in the streets and I hope that the local national guard gives you and your homeboys the bullet if you would even dare to touch someone's property.
No you are alistair overeem. Stop worrying about what's going on here.
Aces High
02-03-2012, 09:58 AM
It's the american way
Americans or the ones of old are builders not destroyers.;)
The Lawspeaker
02-03-2012, 09:58 AM
No you are alistair overeem. Stop worrying about what's going on here.
LOL. You're just a nigger. You have been rebuked so many times that I think you're either a real nigger or just very hungry for punishment.
Now get your ass out of this forum for (generally law-abiding) white folks and go collect your benefit checks.
Siberyak
02-03-2012, 10:00 AM
LOL. You're just a nigger. You have been rebuked so many times that I think you're either a real nigger or just very hungry for punishment.
Now get your ass out of this forum for (generally law-abiding) white folks and go collect your benefit checks.
Like I am gonna leave if you tell me. Why don't you get your ass out. Do something with your life. You have over 18,000 posts.
The Lawspeaker
02-03-2012, 10:03 AM
Like I am gonna leave if you tell me. Why don't you get your ass out. Do something with your life. You have over 18,000 posts.
Get the fuck out of here, nigger boy.
Siberyak
02-03-2012, 10:04 AM
Get the fuck out of here, nigger boy.
Do something with your life. Instead of posting fantasy scenarios on here.
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