Is anyone else a pacifist?

[mimzy]

I am completely against all war. Including the Allied involvement in WW2. I think there is always a peaceful alternative to mass slaughter.

I don't even respect the troops.

[Flintlocke]

War. Hoo! What iz it good fo, absolutly nathin!

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[Ju Song-Il]

Is anyone else a pacifist?

Nope.

[mymy]

Nice to see another member who share this opinion. :thumb001:
I believe in pacifism and trying to promote it in everyday life.

[Hess]

I don't even respect the troops.

As someone who's currently in ROTC and exploring a military career, I can tell you that most soldiers are nothing more than men and women who want to protect their country and serve their fellow citizens.

if that's not worthy of respect, what is?

[Logan]

I am completely against all war. Including the Allied involvement in WW2. I think there is always a peaceful alternative to mass slaughter.

I don't even respect the troops.

What would you do if someone came into your home uninvited or something similar?

[Flintlocke]

What would you do if someone came into your home uninvited or something similar?

Sing him away with magic hippie crystals :D

[Logan]

Nice to see another member who share this opinion. :thumb001:
I believe in pacifism and trying to promote it in everyday life.

No harm in trying. You can walk softly, but you might need a stick. ;)

[Flintlocke]

No harm in trying. You can walk softly, but you might need a stick. ;)

I want the Predator's armor. With the lasers, the blades, the explosives and all :puppy_dp:

[Contra Mundum]

I am completely against all war. Including the Allied involvement in WW2. I think there is always a peaceful alternative to mass slaughter.

I don't even respect the troops.

The troops are victims of the political leaders that send them to fight. No reason to hate on them.

I'm opposed to war until my people are attacked, and they are being attacked in their home countries by the actions of their own governments.

[Aptrgangr]

If I were, I were culturally enriched to death already. Peaceful, yes, but one must always be ready to use force.

The women of this country learned long ago, those without swords can still die upon them. I fear neither death nor pain.
Eowyn of Rohan

[Aces High]

I am completely against all war. Including the Allied involvement in WW2.

Well you're a bit late.

[mimzy]

What would you do if someone came into your home uninvited or something similar?

If they were non-threatening, I'd simply ask them to leave. If they were scary or armed, I would kick their ass. But i wouldn't kill them.

[mimzy]

As someone who's currently in ROTC and exploring a military career, I can tell you that most soldiers are nothing more than men and women who want to protect their country and serve their fellow citizens.

if that's not worthy of respect, what is?

My allegiance is to my planet and my species, not to my country. That's why it doesn't resonate with me.

[Grumpy Cat]

No. As much as I'd like to see no violence, there are times when war and violence is necessary.

[Aces High]

My allegiance is to my planet and my species, not to my country. That's why it doesn't resonate with me.

So a war against Mars would be ok with you...?

[askra]

yes, i'm a pacifist, but it doesn't mean that i will "turn the other cheek" if anybody attack me
pacifist yes, but not stupid! :p

[mimzy]

yes, i'm a pacifist, but it doesn't mean that i will "turn the other cheek" if anybody attack me
pacifist yes, but not stupid! :p

So you're not a pacifist.

[mimzy]

So a war against Mars would be ok with you...?

If we contact life, my allegiance will be to my universe.

[Aces High]

If we contact life, my allegiance will be to my universe.

What if the martians want to come and steal all our air....?

[mimzy]

What if the martians want to come and steal all our air....?

Well if they're that powerful, there's not really much we can do to defend ourselves lol

[mymy]

Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. So, the Martians aren't on Mars anymore! ;)

[Nglund]

Well if they're that powerful, there's not really much we can do to defend ourselves lol

Pussy.

[Ju Song-Il]

My allegiance is to my planet and my species, not to my country. That's why it doesn't resonate with me.

Another internationalist liberal faggot?

[Magyar the Conqueror]

As a Hungarian I reject all ideas of pacifism.

[Vasconcelos]

If we contact life, my allegiance will be to my universe.

Okay, I'm going to call my Zerg friends, they'll be happy to know that.

[askra]

So you're not a pacifist.

who are you? the Gandhi reincarnation? :D


i'm a pacifist, but logically it exists a limit to the human patience.

[Gaztelu]

I don't even respect the troops.

Seriously, fuck off.

[Flintlocke]

I love war and conflict. I hate equality, democracy, peace, and cowardice most of all. We should fight and use extreme violence even if it's not called for. Totally destroy our enemies and fuck this "defend ourselves" bullshit! Pacifism, how boring! What good is pacifism? What glory is there in it? What legends and songs does it create? Why should anyone discuss with people who are unable to hurt him when he can take what he wants? To do so would be to forgo all reason. Charge I say, dagger between your teeth, grenade in one hand and machine gun in the other. Be totally ruthless and victory will be yours!

[Piparskeggr]

I am a hunter, the 12th generation of such here on the North American continent.

I have put 63 deer, 1 black bear, 1 pronghorn antelope and many dozens of small game animals, water fowl and upland game birds in the freezer over the years. I have slain many "pest" animals (such as rats and coyotes).

Every death has been appreciated as something that has enabled me to feed and continue my own life (or has been in aid of protecting the resources that enable me to continue).

I am a veteran, the 12th generation of such here on the North American continent.

I have killed 1 man in the line of duty (and severely wounded another), a fact that has bothered me (quite a bit recently) since the incident in July 1984. It is good that I am troubled at ending the life of another human being (and almost killing another). It is something, which should never be done lightly.

The young man I killed (only 19), I can still see his face, hear his cries of pain, smell the tang of the salt air of the sea side area...if the circumstances were the same, I would pull the trigger again.

I would kill to protect myself, my loved ones, my property...

"The meek shall inherit the earth..." 6 feet by 6 feet by 3 feet at a time.

[Hevneren]

What is meant by pacifism? If it includes the use of justifiable force in the course of defending yourself and/or your loved ones or as a means of survival (hunting), then no. Other than these exceptions, I can accept pacifism. I'm no lover of violence and see no point in it unless there's a survival/defence reason behind it. I have no interest in sports like boxing or bullfighting. It's not that I'm too sensitive for it, but it just doesn't interest me, and frankly in the case of bullfighting I find the spectacle just ludicrous and pointless.

As for soldiers in a war, I don't see why they should be disrespected. If anything, they're victims and not perpetrators. They're not the ones pulling the strings and lining their pockets from war profiteering. Even the ones who enlist out of their own free will, don't know what they're in for, nor do they have much of a say in anything.

I personally wouldn't choose to enlist in the armed forces, unless it was to defend my nation and people as a means of survival, because these wars fought today aren't about defence, they're about profit, politics and strategy.

[Siberyak]

Im for violence to get the point across

[Phil75231]

I really don't have much to add to this. Military solutions are the last card to be played - not the first (unless the other nation is engaging in blatantly aggressive acts AND it is clear the leader has a vainglorious attitude toward other nations). I think everyone agrees with this in principle.

Even so, I can see where preemptive strikes might be appropriate if it is clear the other nation is about to attack.

This is definitely a gray area. All you can do is choose your battles carefully.

Regardless, war should never be a rash decision.

[The Lawspeaker]

I am not a pacifist but I don't believe in pointless wars. WWII wasn't a pointless war.

[Meerkat.86]

Pacifism is a nice utopia....while war is sometimes necessary to re-establish peace and order. And it can by also a good incentive for technological and medical advances.
Anyone who asserts to be a priori against war is in my opinion a hypocrital dreamer.

[Grumpy Cat]

Pacifism will get you killed. Every time I encounter someone who claims to be a pacifist, I am tempted to steal their wallet. They can't defend themselves, they can't beat my ass for stealing from them, they're a pacifist.

I have a degree in Canadian history. The pacifist Indian tribes got wiped out, the non-pacifist ones are still around.. and the least pacifist tribes still have their land, have members of their tribe in Parliament, have actors in Hollywood, have bankers on Wall Street, and have money. Shows what pacifism gets you.

[Albion]

I don't even respect the troops.

Then I don't respect you. :coffee:

[Sinbad]

I hope your country gets invaded an no one comes to help you...

[Sinbad]

I don't even respect the troops.

You young man ? Are stupid, and I have nowt to say to you or your kind?

[The Lawspeaker]

I am not a pacifist but I don't believe in pointless wars. WWII wasn't a pointless war.
But my solutions for dealing with pointless wars are not exactly pacifistic either: it's called calling up the army and the reservists and reinforcing/guarding borders, roads, railways and canals, bridges, key buildings, communication centres, airports, the coast etc (a.k.a a general mobilisation) and declaring ourselves neutral.

For short: sod your little war. We will have f.. all to do with it and we will defend our independence and neutrality when necessity requires us to.

[Nairi]

Right befofre attack on Iraq pacifists from Europe went there to show their support to Iraqis. It didn't stop USA. Do you think and now if Iran is attacked European pacifists will go to Iran given that Iranian govt might consider them as spies?..

I myself think they might go. They are very strong minded people and ready to sacrifice their lives for ideas they belive in....

[The Lawspeaker]

Right befofre attack on Iraq pacifists from Europe went there to show their support to Iraqis. It didn't stop USA. Do you think and now if Iran is attacked European pacifists will go to Iran given that Iranian govt might consider them as spies?..

I myself think they might go. They are very strong minded people and ready to sacrifice their lives for ideas they belive in....
And that's why I respect those pacifists a lot more then the chickenhawks in Washington, New York, London, Brussels, Jerusalem etc. They are not willing to die for their ideals or let their own sons be slaughtered. No.. they send the sons and daughters of the working class to die for them but those pacifists are willing to chain themselves to buildings and let themselves be incinerated, blown to pieces etc.

The same moral cowardice of the chickenhawks in office goes for the chickenhawks here that advocate a war with Iran: they wouldn't sign up because frankly they are moral cowards without any convictions that just like to talk tough.

And I don't care if I insulted them because no son of the nation should die for a couple of rich Jews and their gentile cronies. This should stop.. once and for all.

[Nairi]

And that's why I respect those pacifists a lot more then the chickenhawks in Washington, London, Brussels etc. They are not willing to die for their ideals or let their own sons be slaughtered. No.. they send the sons and daughters of the working class to die for them.

The same goes for the chickenhawks here that advocate a war with Iran: they wouldn't sign up because frankly they are moral cowards without any convictions.

And I don't care if I insulted them but no European boy should die for a couple of rich Jews and their gentile cronies. This should stop.. once and for all.

Iran is heavily mispresented in order to give it a negative image. Iranians remind me us, Soviet people who were under communism regime and repressed but seen as enemies to foreigners while in reality they were victims. The same is with Persians, the moment the regime is topped down they will happily embrace Western values ( to some extend, obviously). They are in no way enemies, they are very different from other Muslims.Average Persian is much less Islamic than Middle Eastern and Northern caucasian Muslim. Most of them want to get rid of Islam and go back to Zoroastranism.

[Sinbad]

I am completely against all war. Including the Allied involvement in WW2. I think there is always a peaceful alternative to mass slaughter.

I don't even respect the troops well I do a bit.And I like there gun n fings I guess killing could be fun, as long as you don't do any permanent damage

I agree except all the stuff about pacifist stuff...

[Magyar the Conqueror]

I am completely against all war. Including the Allied involvement in WW2. I think there is always a peaceful alternative to mass slaughter.

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Wheres the portal to the dream world? I can't find it anywhere :(

[пустиняк]

pacifism sucks
not everything can be fixed by peaceful ways

[Indiohammer]

Don't look this way, my forebears used to eat human flesh. :)