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Loki
02-04-2012, 12:56 PM
I have an idea ...

We could create 3 categories:

1) Europe proper - the usual European countries on the continent
2) Colonials - US, Canada, South Africa, Australia etc
3) Peripherals - Armenia, Georgia and Turkey (?)

Just an idea ... your feedback would be appreciated. :)

Vasconcelos
02-04-2012, 12:58 PM
Turkey (?)

Haters gonna hate. :)

ironman
02-04-2012, 12:58 PM
I have an idea ...

We could create 3 categories:

1) Europe proper - the usual European countries on the continent
2) Colonials - US, Canada, South Africa, Australia etc
3) Peripherals - Armenia, Georgia and Turkey (?)

Just an idea ... your feedback would be appreciated. :)


For what purpose?

Black Sun Dimension
02-04-2012, 12:59 PM
I think it's fine how it is. Why try to fix something that isnt broken?

The Lawspeaker
02-04-2012, 01:00 PM
All for it but:

(edits included)

1) Europe proper - the usual European countries on the continent
2) Colonials - US, Canada, South Africa, Australia etc
3) Peripherals - Albania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Armenia, Georgia (?)Without Turkey as they have a history of hostility towards European nations. I would prefer to include Albania and Bosnia-Herzegovina (what about creating a Bosnian group ?) in the Periphery- section because of the Islamic presence.

Loki
02-04-2012, 01:01 PM
For what purpose?

Isn't it obvious? Categorization and to avoid confusion.

ironman
02-04-2012, 01:03 PM
Isn't it obvious? Categorization and to avoid confusion.

Has there been confusion in the past?

mymy
02-04-2012, 01:07 PM
I like the idea.

Padre Organtino
02-04-2012, 01:14 PM
Why not have Israel as perypheral? They sure have more to do with Euros than either Georgians or Armenians:coffee:

Thraex
02-04-2012, 01:15 PM
Seems fine with me but if we're going to include Turkey on the forum then all European countries should get their forum first before Turkey. :P

Loki
02-04-2012, 01:25 PM
Seems fine with me but if we're going to include Turkey on the forum then all European countries should get their forum first before Turkey. :P

We need Andorran, Luxembourgian, etc etc members first ... :coffee:

Scrapple
02-04-2012, 01:32 PM
Why not just create a sub-forum called the Periphery or something like that.

Treffie
02-04-2012, 01:45 PM
Haters gonna hate. :)

Turkey's gonna turk

Thraex
02-04-2012, 01:52 PM
We need Andorran, Luxembourgian, etc etc members first ... :coffee:

Luxemburgers are probably too busy drinking expensive wine and eating Belgian chocolate. :D

Sylvanus
02-04-2012, 02:01 PM
It is good idea. I support it!

Vasconcelos
02-04-2012, 02:06 PM
Luxemburgers are probably too busy drinking expensive wine and eating Belgian chocolate. :D

There's already a category for Luxembourg, it's called Portugal.

Drawing-live
02-04-2012, 02:11 PM
All for it but:

(edits included)
Without Turkey as they have a history of hostility towards European nations. I would prefer to include Albania and Bosnia-Herzegovina (what about creating a Bosnian group ?) in the Periphery- section because of the Islamic presence. accirding to batalli

The Lawspeaker
02-04-2012, 02:12 PM
accirding to batalli
"Sighs"

Comte Arnau
02-04-2012, 02:33 PM
We need Andorran, Luxembourgian, etc etc members first ... :coffee:

There could always be an AD/CAT one, in the way of NL/VL. :whistle:

http://oi39.tinypic.com/35i4mpu.jpg

Just sending there a few posted threads would already make it larger than other sections. :p

Gaztelu
02-04-2012, 02:39 PM
There could always be an AD/CAT one, in the way of NL/VL. :whistle:

http://oi39.tinypic.com/35i4mpu.jpg

Just sending there a few posted threads would already make it larger than other sections. :p

Where are the flags for Valencia and the Balearics?

Comte Arnau
02-04-2012, 02:56 PM
Where are the flags for Valencia and the Balearics?

It is in there. The four-striped one belongs to all former territories of Aragon, regardless of any side motifs.

In fact, even to Andorra. It was only a little more than a century ago that the French mixed their flag with the Catalan to form the current one.

Treffie
02-04-2012, 03:00 PM
Loki, while I'm here, can we have a subsection for Catalonia puhlease? :thumb001:

Aces High
02-04-2012, 04:07 PM
Going to be funny watching the US members squirm in the "Colonials" section....yuk yuk.

Loddfafner
02-04-2012, 04:21 PM
I have an idea ...

We could create 3 categories:

1) Europe proper - the usual European countries on the continent
2) Colonials - US, Canada, South Africa, Australia etc
3) Peripherals - Armenia, Georgia and Turkey (?)

Just an idea ... your feedback would be appreciated. :)

I think there are enough national subfora to merit a higher level of categorization, but maybe the categories could be more even:

Colonials: Australia, US, Canada, South Africa.

Southeastern Frontier (or somesuch): Armenia, ex-Yugoslavia, Greece, Albania, Bulgaria, Romania.

Northeastern Frontier: Russia, Poland, Czechy, Hungary, Baltics

Romance Europe: France, Spain, Portugal, Italy.

Baltic and Scandinavia: all those.

Northern Europe (or Germanic and Celtic): Eire, Britain, Scandinavia, Benelux, Germany.

Vasconcelos
02-04-2012, 04:23 PM
Honestly don't think it's needed, it's easy enough to see if any of your "favourite" countries has anything new the way this is.

Logan
02-04-2012, 04:36 PM
Going to be funny watching the US members squirm in the "Colonials" section....yuk yuk.

Good point. They would need one of their own. :coffee:

Good to separate the nons.

rashka
02-04-2012, 04:44 PM
Problem is that we can't see the newest posts from any of the countries listed right now, unless we go clicking on each one, and it certainly won't stay visible for very long on the latest posts section.

Loki
02-04-2012, 04:53 PM
Loki, while I'm here, can we have a subsection for Catalonia puhlease? :thumb001:

It would be considered heretical since it would be the only non-official country in the list. :)

Loki
02-04-2012, 04:55 PM
Honestly don't think it's needed, it's easy enough to see if any of your "favourite" countries has anything new the way this is.

Very good point. Compactness of the forumhome page is essential, and there aren't really that many countries as it is ...

Loki
02-04-2012, 04:59 PM
Very good point. Compactness of the forumhome page is essential, and there aren't really that many countries as it is ...

As it stands, the two columns are uneven. There is place for one more, or three more ...

Alex Delarge
02-04-2012, 04:59 PM
Loki, i think that if you have a Cornwall subforum, then you could have Catalan and Basque subforums as well. :)

Comte Arnau
02-04-2012, 05:03 PM
It would be considered heretical since it would be the only non-official country in the list. :)

I'd say Flanders already broke that law. :)

Loki
02-04-2012, 05:05 PM
Loki, i think that if you have a Cornwall subforum, then you could have Catalan and Basque subforums as well. :)


I'd say Flanders already broke that law. :)

Good points, I stand corrected.

The Cornish forum is dead anyway and I'm going to delete it and add its contents to the English section.

rashka
02-04-2012, 05:08 PM
I personally would make the Latest Posts section longer, verticalwise and horizontalwise. Or have a scroll down bar to the right to see more threads.

Also, Apricity layout doesn't extend its borders towards the left and the right sides of the screen. It's as though it is not in full view mode. :)

Loki
02-04-2012, 05:17 PM
In the interests of compactness, we could of course revert to an 'ex-Soviet Union' section that would include countries like Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. :p

Sikeliot
02-04-2012, 05:22 PM
I like Loki's original idea.

Vasconcelos
02-04-2012, 05:24 PM
In the interests of compactness, we could of course revert to an 'ex-Soviet Union' section that would include countries like Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. :p

Karl is going to love that :D

Terek
02-04-2012, 05:28 PM
And where does the North Caucasus go? Are we peripheral or are we with Russia?

No there is no safe answer to this question))

Loki
02-04-2012, 05:30 PM
And where does the North Caucasus go? Are we peripheral or are we with Russia?

No there is no safe answer to this question))

Chechnya, for example, is officially part of Russia.

Mordid
02-04-2012, 05:31 PM
Chechnya, for example, is officially part of Russia.
What if Russians member disagree with that?

Loki
02-04-2012, 05:32 PM
What if Russians member disagree with that?

Then they need to take it up with the Russian Government, not Apricity. :)

Scrapple
02-04-2012, 05:44 PM
Going to be funny watching the US members squirm in the "Colonials" section....yuk yuk.

Maybe if you ask nicely enough Loki can add a forum for Rhodesia in the colonial section too. :D

Peyrol
02-04-2012, 05:48 PM
I think there are enough national subfora to merit a higher level of categorization, but maybe the categories could be more even:

Colonials: Australia, US, Canada, South Africa.

Southeastern Frontier (or somesuch): Armenia, ex-Yugoslavia, Greece, Albania, Bulgaria, Romania.

Northeastern Frontier: Russia, Poland, Czechy, Hungary, Baltics

Romance Europe: France, Spain, Portugal, Italy.

Baltic and Scandinavia: all those.

Northern Europe (or Germanic and Celtic): Eire, Britain, Scandinavia, Benelux, Germany.

Also Romania is part of "Romance Europe"

European Loyalist
02-04-2012, 05:56 PM
What if Canada, Australia and New Zealand fell under a subcategory of the colonial grouping called the commonwealth?

Gaztelu
02-04-2012, 06:51 PM
It is in there. The four-striped one belongs to all former territories of Aragon, regardless of any side motifs.


Have you ever trolled Majorcans and Valencians with regards to this? :D

Comte Arnau
02-04-2012, 07:04 PM
Have you ever trolled Majorcans and Valencians with regards to this? :D

I have dozens of Valencian and Majorcan acquaintances in real life, Gaztelu. Real ones, you know what I mean. Not that kind of Valencians that say Catalan and Valencian are different languages when they don't even speak Valencian, and who are the common ones in fora.

Catalonia should have a motif of its own on the flag, the way Valencia and Majorca have, or Aragon when they added their coat of arms upon it. The four-striped one is the one that unites us all.

The oldest extant flag in Europe, the Pendó de la Reconquesta, in Valencia. Can you see the blue stripe? ;)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cgujE-ME9m0/TqsNQfzKH6I/AAAAAAAAH10/B3N9sKo5prE/s1600/Congreso%2BRAECO%2BValencia%2B%25286%2529.jpg


The Catalan Atlas, in 1375, by a Majorcan cartographer. Isn't it interesting? ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Senyeres_atlas_de_Cresques.jpg

Loddfafner
02-04-2012, 07:52 PM
There is no such thing as a non-contentious categorization scheme.

Loddfafner
02-05-2012, 04:27 AM
Also Romania is part of "Romance Europe"

While I was delighted to be able to use my Spanish in Romania, that country has not had the same experience as France, Spain, Portugal, and Italy of having been at one point the very center of European life. I think it belongs more squarely in the same category as Yugoslavia in that it was hobbled together from pieces of the Hapsburg and Ottoman Empires, then went Communist. The tensions that go back to the differences in administration between Vienna and Constantinople, with repercussions in the expectations of people of the state, on top of the experiences of oppression and exploitation, have shaped both countries although the Romanians have handled the problem much better than the Yugoslavs.

These factors of deep history might have some relevance to the tone of threads in their respective fora.

Thraex
02-05-2012, 04:34 AM
In the interests of compactness, we could of course revert to an 'ex-Soviet Union' section that would include countries like Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. :p

Even better:

Western Europe:

All NATO aligned countries

Central Europe:

Neutral countries (Yugoslavia, Austria, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland)

Eastern Europe:

All Soviet bloc countries

Max
02-05-2012, 07:07 AM
I have an idea ...

3) Peripherals - Armenia, Georgia and Turkey (?)

Just an idea ... your feedback would be appreciated. :)

Might as well add Azerbaijan to that list :ohwell:

http://medya.todayszaman.com/todayszaman/2011/01/16/oped.jpg

Loki
02-05-2012, 07:08 AM
Might as well add Azerbaijan to that list :ohwell:


Please show me any Azerbaijani members.

Max
02-05-2012, 07:34 AM
Please show me any Azerbaijani members.

They are a closely related people's so its only fair that Azerbaijan be part of that block. I'm sure if you make one then Azerbaijani's will feel more welcome joining this forum. It's going to be fun i tell ya :D

Gaztelu
02-05-2012, 05:49 PM
They are a closely related people's so its only fair that Azerbaijan be part of that block. I'm sure if you make one then Azerbaijani's will feel more welcome joining this forum. It's going to be fun i tell ya :D

This forum would turn into an Armo-Kavkaz-Russo-Turkish bloodbath.

Padre Organtino
02-05-2012, 05:53 PM
This forum would turn into an Armo-Kavkaz-Russo-Turkish bloodbath.

Skadi member's nightmare:D

Gaztelu
02-05-2012, 05:54 PM
Skadi member's nightmare:D

That would be the nightmare of everyone here.

Padre Organtino
02-05-2012, 05:56 PM
That would be the nightmare of everyone here.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxtxyjmcsC1qj1zev.png

Gaztelu
02-05-2012, 06:12 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxtxyjmcsC1qj1zev.png

And that nightmare has already been witnessed in this forum.

Padre Organtino
02-05-2012, 06:13 PM
And that nightmare has already been witnessed in this forum.

Well I promise to not engage in cat fights with them anymore:rolleyes2:

Gaztelu
02-05-2012, 09:45 PM
Well I promise to not engage in cat fights with them anymore:rolleyes2:

Well, we both know that it's not entirely your fault.

SaxonCeorl
02-05-2012, 09:49 PM
Let's just have fictional sections, such as the "Sector of Doom," and the "Isle of Frospanthia."

Hurrem sultana
02-05-2012, 09:56 PM
I like Lokis idea :) sounds great

Zephyr
02-06-2012, 02:29 PM
If it ain't broken, don't fix it :p

Eva
02-07-2012, 07:04 AM
Thank you Loki, but if Armenia is to be put in the same category as Turkey then better do nothing.

Loki
02-07-2012, 07:07 AM
Thank you Loki, but if Armenia is to be put in the same category as Turkey then better do nothing.

Categorization is not meant for political purposes. Apricity remains officially neutral in such disputes (regardless of whatever personal opinions I may hold).

For a forum to become biased in such a way is definitely not a good thing.

Having said all that, I think for now the 'if it ain't broken, don't fix it' suggestion sounds about good enough to me.

hajduk
02-07-2012, 07:12 AM
A section for Germanics, Slavs, Balts, Romance people and one for Caucas is a good idea imo
Greeks can join our Slavic section :D

Kanuni
02-07-2012, 07:20 AM
A section for Germanics, Slavs, Balts, Romance people and one for Caucas is a good idea imo
Greeks can join our Slavic section :D

Do Albanians count as Slavic?

hajduk
02-07-2012, 07:28 AM
Do Albanians count as Slavic?

Yes also estoanians. Karl will get pissed, just forget what I said

Eva
02-07-2012, 07:47 AM
Categorization is not meant for political purposes.

Having said all that, I think for now the 'if it ain't broken, don't fix it' suggestion sounds about good enough to me.

Categorization is meant for geographical purposes, I know. We've never been lucky with our neighbors, but have always remained who we are no matter who they were and are.

Óttar
02-07-2012, 07:55 AM
I have an idea ...

We could create 3 categories:

1) Europe proper - the usual European countries on the continent
2) Colonials - US, Canada, South Africa, Australia etc
3) Peripherals - Armenia, Georgia and Turkey (?)

Just an idea ... your feedback would be appreciated. :)
As much as I like this idea, what does a yank like myself know about ANZAC and do most Afrikaners outside of Britain identify with the UK? :confused:

Loki
02-07-2012, 08:20 AM
... do most Afrikaners outside of Britain identify with the UK? :confused:

No, only a minority. Most Afrikaners prefer warmer climates and instead migrate to Australia and the USA (like Florida and Texas). I personally prefer cooler climates.

Ushtari
02-07-2012, 08:25 AM
Yeah i agree with Ranger that it should be divided in "meta ethnicities", for example Germanics should have their section, Slavs(untermenschen) their own etc. I think that would create more activity in each section.

Loki
02-07-2012, 08:27 AM
Yeah i agree with Ranger that it should be divided in "meta ethnicities", for example Germanics should have their section, Slavs(untermenschen) their own etc. I think that would create more activity in each section.

You're going to incur Mordid's wrath :eek:

PBachman
02-08-2012, 05:16 AM
I have an idea ...

We could create 3 categories:

1) Europe proper - the usual European countries on the continent
2) Colonials - US, Canada, South Africa, Australia etc
3) Peripherals - Armenia, Georgia and Turkey (?)

Just an idea ... your feedback would be appreciated. :)

- Europe Proper - the usual European Countries + Turkey + Albania
- European Colonies to Nations - xyz
- Peripherals - Armenia, Georgia, and Levant (Lebanon)

IMHO...trust me when I ask you to do it this way, as I can't explain to you on the boards why I believe the above is more beneficial in the future. if you do it this it will resolve future ambiguity that will most likely occur because Turkey is grouped under "Europe" and not "Peripherals".

PBachman
02-08-2012, 05:25 AM
IN fact, better yet:

Europe - Europe + TUrkey + Albania
Peripherals - Armenia and Georgia
Allies - Levant (Lebanon)

Nairi
02-08-2012, 05:41 AM
IN fact, better yet:

Europe - Europe + TUrkey + Albania
Peripherals - Armenia and Georgia
Allies - Levant (Lebanon)

I don't understand what you mean by "plus Albania"? Albanians have their sub forum. And please, have a look at the previous page, everything is talked about and sorted out, Loki spoke! ;)

PBachman
02-08-2012, 05:50 AM
I don't understand what you mean by "plus Albania"? Albanians have their sub forum. And please, have a look at the previous page, everything is talked about and sorted out, Loki spoke! ;)

Oh...yeah, my mistake then. :thumb001:

Comte Arnau
02-09-2012, 12:59 AM
IN fact, better yet:

Europe - Europe + TUrkey + Albania
Peripherals - Armenia and Georgia
Allies - Levant (Lebanon)

Even better:


Europe - Europe + TUrkey + Albania
Peripherals - Armenia + Georgia + Catalonia
Allies - Levant (Lebanon)

Everything can be improved. :thumb001:

Loki
02-09-2012, 01:09 AM
- Europe Proper - the usual European Countries + Turkey + Albania
- European Colonies to Nations - xyz
- Peripherals - Armenia, Georgia, and Levant (Lebanon)

IMHO...trust me when I ask you to do it this way, as I can't explain to you on the boards why I believe the above is more beneficial in the future. if you do it this it will resolve future ambiguity that will most likely occur because Turkey is grouped under "Europe" and not "Peripherals".

Do you really want me to do something that could cause half of the board's members to leave? :D :P Turkey is having a hard time as it is to join the EU ... :eek:

Nairi
02-09-2012, 01:18 AM
Do you really want me to do something that could cause half of the board's members to leave? :D :P Turkey is having a hard time as it is to join the EU ... :eek:

Only half? I am afraid in that case only PBachman (for unknown reason),Dusan and Bosnian will stay :D

And maybe you :p You can't leave the ship ;)

Eva
02-09-2012, 07:04 AM
IN fact, better yet:

Europe - Europe + TUrkey + Albania
Peripherals - Armenia and Georgia
Allies - Levant (Lebanon)

This is better, but not perfect ;)