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Mosov
02-10-2012, 11:13 PM
This thread is dedicated to our great army. Armenian Army is considered the best in the S. Caucasus region by international experts. I will add photos over time. Some photos of notable war heroes and our troops.

http://www.armeniaemb.org/News/Images/Armenian-Armed-Forces.gif

War Heroes of Karabakh War

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiquote/hy/thumb/c/cc/Vazgen_Sargsyan.jpg/405px-Vazgen_Sargsyan.jpg

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTyP1V2q561KdHKjAFwPWhfS82sSVD6I vb62SQv8DzvIggyo8QUPJxSn8HytQ

http://times.am/timthumb.php?src=upload/4212.png&w=300



http://www.hayzinvor.am/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Scan1789.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7981/17jf0.jpg

http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/eng/2010/11/2CD3262D-5891-42B1-96C3-CC7C6394B483_mw800_mh600_s.jpg

http://img9.imageshost.ru/imgs/100328/d79ad59e03/2eb87.jpg

http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/eng/2011/01/6BD21496-A40B-44FF-9639-50D2EF31E1D8_w527_s.jpg

http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/eng/2011/02/armenian-military-cadets.jpg

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32391&d=1186823294

http://massispost.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/armedforces.jpg

http://www.armyrecognition.com/forum_pic/Republic_of_Armenia_army_parade_017.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_d0Rtb4UplLU/THpO38V61DI/AAAAAAAAAOY/0UrfUZFeSbY/s1600/Armenia_russia.jpg

http://www.reporter.am/images/StandardImage/06%2010%2024%20Koch.%20inspects%20NK%20military%20 units%20c2.jpg

Mosov
02-10-2012, 11:13 PM
Women Soldiers ;)

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4261/6168939688ec79ebf28f.jpg

Armenian Troops in Afghanistan

http://www.khaama.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/43CEAC7C-EA19-4096-B15B-AFC4BE74E6F0_mw800_mh600_s.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9307/58604643.jpg

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/300/24976224.jpg

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4160/65560038.jpg

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3443/81736051.jpg

http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/eng/2011/07/0722military.jpg

Ar-Man
02-10-2012, 11:24 PM
My little bro, proud and fearless soldier !

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/397027_314519188598691_100001218385014_982377_1578 131662_n.jpg

Nairi
02-10-2012, 11:27 PM
Can I join in? ;)

http://armeniansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/317164_162410463845571_100002298563447_313759_5216 05671_n.jpg

http://armeniansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/armenian-army.jpg

http://www.girls.am/wp-content/uploads/IMG_8853-600x371.jpg

http://armeniansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ahrink.jpg

http://ditord.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/26_big.jpg?w=400&h=266

Arsen_
02-11-2012, 09:26 AM
Nagorno-Karabakh Defense Army Parade in Stepanakert 2007

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Flintlocke
02-11-2012, 09:43 AM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32391&d=1186823294

The camo uniform is Greek, the sniper rifle is Yugoslav, Black Arrow (Crna Strela)

Arsen_
02-11-2012, 09:56 AM
The camo uniform is Greek, the sniper rifle is Yugoslav, Black Arrow (Crna Strela)

Still Drones (Unmanned aerial vehicles) are Armenian-made! :)

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Armin
02-11-2012, 10:15 AM
The camo uniform is Greek, the sniper rifle is Yugoslav, Black Arrow (Crna Strela)

Armenian officers also train in Greek military academies. Armenian paratroopers in Greek camo. Regular army units wear Armenian digital camo.

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/7392/26747530.jpg"

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/1019/52271995.jpg


http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6241/61663900.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/19113890.jpg/

Swan_
03-03-2012, 03:56 AM
This thread is dedicated to our great army.
There is no army. We had a great army with the Soviet Army in which our young men were properly educated and taken care of, but that's been completely dismantled. The "army" that there is now is run by brutal gangsters that treats our young men worse than farm animals. This is the same "army" that a lot of my family members have run away from so that their kids wouldn't go through the horrendous experience of being in it. My cousin's wife for example had a brother who was killed in that "army".

Nairi
03-03-2012, 05:04 AM
There is no army. We had a great army with the Soviet Army in which our young men were properly educated and taken care of, but that's been completely dismantled. The "army" that there is now is run by brutal gangsters that treats our young men worse than farm animals. This is the same "army" that a lot of my family members have run away from so that their kids wouldn't go through the horrendous experience of being in it. My cousin's wife for example had a brother who was killed in that "army".

This is another proof you are not Armenian!
There are problems in Armenia but they are no way more than in any other ex Soviet Republic and this IS the army which liberated our Artsakh!
This is the army which is going to again defend our sacred lands from the enemy which sooner or later gonna strike.

Ar-Man
03-03-2012, 07:17 AM
There is no army. We had a great army with the Soviet Army in which our young men were properly educated and taken care of, but that's been completely dismantled. The "army" that there is now is run by brutal gangsters that treats our young men worse than farm animals. This is the same "army" that a lot of my family members have run away from so that their kids wouldn't go through the horrendous experience of being in it. My cousin's wife for example had a brother who was killed in that "army".

I smeel the Azeri here !!!! :cool:
My bro is in the army & he loves it! So please fuck off with your bullshit !

Arsen_
03-03-2012, 08:53 AM
My bro is in army & he loves it! So please fuck off with your bullshit !

My nephew was serving in Armenian Army exactly in Arcax for two years and not only he was not treated badly by his Commanders but also made good friends with them. And after return home some time later he even was visited by his friendly Commander with family and for week they were having good time with lot of food and vodka. :)

By the way that "marxism" worshiper (Swan) apparently forgot that true Marxists at their time would not hesitate a minute to shoot him down for talking slanderously about Army and also shoot down his relatives as traitors and deserters from Army.

Bozkurt_Karabash
03-03-2012, 08:56 AM
That army looks good... for a target training of Turkey before facing more serious invaders. All that outdated Russkie crap looks funny.

Joe McCarthy
03-03-2012, 09:02 AM
That army looks good... for a target training of Turkey before facing more serious invaders. All that outdated Russkie crap looks funny.

Yeah, I'm unsure what the point of this thread is other than to inevitably invite comments on how easily Turkey's armed forces would annihilate them.

Nairi
03-03-2012, 09:14 AM
Yeah, I'm unsure what the point of this thread is other than to inevitably invite comments on how easily Turkey's armed forces would annihilate them.

Yes, and the point of "Armenian People" thread is to inevitably invite comments from Turks on how easily Turkey's armed forces would annihilate Armenian people.

Wanderlust
03-03-2012, 09:20 AM
I smeel the Azeri here !!!! :cool:
My bro is in army & he loves it! So please fuck off with your bullshit !

He was a double registered user. Let's move on..

Arsen_
03-03-2012, 09:46 AM
Yeah, I'm unsure what the point of this thread is other than to inevitably invite comments on how easily Turkey's armed forces would annihilate them.

The point of this thread is very simple: there WILL NO BE EVER ONE-SIDED GAME as in past when Turks attacked unarmed Armenians.

And I assure you Armenians will hit back Turks extremely painfully if it will be needed. And if you really believe that Turkey's armed forces easily annihilate Armenian Army you are very naive.

Eva
03-03-2012, 09:54 AM
The point of this thread is very simple: there WILL NO BE EVER ONE-SIDED GAME as in past when Turks attacked unarmed Armenians.

And I assure you Armenians will hit back Turks extremely painfully if it will be needed. And if you really believe that Turkey's armed forces easily annihilate Armenian Army you are very naive.

Yes, the most heroic thing turks did was to fight unarmed women and children.
Really impressive!

While Armenians only with volunteer groups without any external help crushed azeris who had three times more military power and backed up by the Soviet Union.

Eva
03-03-2012, 10:01 AM
He was a double registered user. Let's move on..

Most probably he was an azeri troll. Many of them also know Armenian. The things he said are well-known about the azeri army. So it's their complexes. Azeri army has very bad reputation, they are indeed said to be treated as animals and rape is widely spread there.

My own brother has served in the Armenian Army for 2 years and in the best conditions. Our army is one of the spheres we are proud of, because sometimes even on behalf of social hardships, during these 20 years everything has been done to strengthen it, and azeris with all their oil didn't even manage to surpass ours.

Mosov
03-03-2012, 04:32 PM
Yeah, I'm unsure what the point of this thread is other than to inevitably invite comments on how easily Turkey's armed forces would annihilate them.

If you're unsure about the point of the thread how about you stop trolling in it?

Bozkurt_Karabash
03-03-2012, 04:35 PM
The point of this thread is very simple: there WILL NO BE EVER ONE-SIDED GAME as in past when Turks attacked unarmed Armenians.

And I assure you Armenians will hit back Turks extremely painfully if it will be needed. And if you really believe that Turkey's armed forces easily annihilate Armenian Army you are very naive.

Good luck hitting us back extremely painfully with all those soviet toys and broken rockets. Let's see how far that makes you go.

The Lawspeaker
03-03-2012, 04:43 PM
I think that if Turkey attacks Armenia then Istanbul would look like this after 5 minutes:

http://s3.hubimg.com/u/3061110_f520.jpg

From Russia with love. And America wouldn't give two shits. (nor would we here in Europe).

Mosov
03-03-2012, 04:45 PM
Good luck hitting us back extremely painfully with all those soviet toys and broken rockets. Let's see how far that makes you go.

You're like a little kid. You want to brag about Turkey's military capabilities go make a thread.

Bozkurt_Karabash
03-03-2012, 04:45 PM
I think that if Turkey attacks Armenia then Istanbul would look like this after 5 minutes:

http://s3.hubimg.com/u/3061110_f520.jpg

From Russia with love. And America wouldn't give two shits. (nor would we here in Europe).

This will happen to Armenia if they attack Turkey.

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/51316999.jpg

And what Europe will do is have angry white males posting pics of nukes on internet like you're doing now. Go to a caffee, have a joint (only thing your country is known for nowadays) and relax.

The Lawspeaker
03-03-2012, 04:47 PM
This will happen to Armenia if they attack Turkey.

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/51316999.jpg

And what Europe will do is have angry white males posting pics of nukes on internet like you're doing now. Go to a caffee, have a joint (only thing your country is known for nowadays) and relax.
Haha. Meet the Russians then. Ask Berlin what happened to them when the Russians were there.

Mosov
03-03-2012, 04:48 PM
This will happen to Armenia if they attack Turkey.

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/51316999.jpg

And what Europe will do is have angry white males posting pics of nukes on internet like you're doing now. Go to a caffee, have a joint (only thing your country is known for nowadays) and relax.

Or angry turk fanatics posting maps of their fantasies.

Bozkurt_Karabash
03-03-2012, 04:49 PM
Or angry turk fanatics posting maps of their fantasies.

The only fantasy here is that Armenian military will hurt Turkey, hahahahahahahahahahaha dwarves

Even other people think you're inferior and think you need their help.

The Lawspeaker
03-03-2012, 04:54 PM
But they will teach your sister, girlfriend and mother how to speak Russian while they are laying strapped to a table and turn them into the regiment's comfort women. Like the Russians did in Berlin. Russian behaviour during war time of a nature that we, thankfully, haven't seen for years. When you piss them off they will get you. And that's what you do when you attack Armenia. They are like buddy - buddy family. Unlike Turkey and Russia so they would really fuck you up.

Mosov
03-03-2012, 04:55 PM
The only fantasy here is that Armenian military will hurt Turkey, hahahahahahahahahahaha dwarves

Even other people think you're inferior and think you need their help.

You're the one whose coming here and talking about how Turkey's military will do this and that. As I said go make a thread and talk to yourself there all you want about Turkey's ubermensch abilities, stop trolling this thread.

Bozkurt_Karabash
03-03-2012, 04:56 PM
But they will teach your sister, girlfriend and mother how to speak Russian while they are laying strapped to a table. Like the Russians did in Berlin. Russian behaviour during war time of a nature that we, thankfully, haven't seen for years. When you piss them off they will get you. And that's what you do when you attack Armenia. They are like buddy - buddy family. Unlike Turkey and Russia so they would really fuck you up.

NATO was going onto Russia's ass if they crossed Georgian line on control. I find it naive you think Armenia can be anything important to Russian interests.

The Lawspeaker
03-03-2012, 04:57 PM
NATO was going onto Russia's ass if they crossed Georgian line on control. I find it naive you think Armenia can be anything important to Russian interests.
Haha. You're wrong. NATO didn't help out Georgia either when they pissed off Russia. So why the fuck should we help Turkey if Turkey attacks another country ?

You'd be left out to dry while the Russians ravage your girlfriend, your sisters and your mother and while they cut off your brother's head and play football with it. :thumb001::D

We, in the West, would just bitch and moan a bit in the papers. But, behind closed doors, we would congratulate the Russians on a job well done.

Mosov
03-03-2012, 05:01 PM
NATO was going onto Russia's ass if they crossed Georgian line on control. I find it naive you think Armenia can be anything important to Russian interests.

NATO didn't do anything for Georgia because their valued their relations with Russia more. So they let Georgia be raped by Russia for their mistake.

Armenia and Russia have an historic alliance. Having Armenia as an ally gives Russia a stronger position in South Caucasus which they need. Not to mention some of the most powerful people in Russia are Armenian, including Foreign Minister that's half Armenian.

Bozkurt_Karabash
03-03-2012, 05:03 PM
NATO didn't do anything for Georgia because their valued their relations with Russia more. So they let Georgia be raped by Russia for their mistake.

Armenia and Russia have an historic alliance. Having Armenia as an ally gives Russia a stronger position in South Caucasus which they need. Not to mention some of the most powerful people in Russia are Armenian, including Foreign Minister that's half Armenian.

That they saved you from destruction when they were Soviets does not mean you have alliance. You're of no use to them now. They're likely to fight for Kazakhstan first than for Armenia.

The Lawspeaker
03-03-2012, 05:06 PM
That they saved you from destruction when they were Soviets does not mean you have alliance. You're of no use to them now. They're likely to fight for Kazakhstan first than for Armenia.
You'll find out. :thumb001: They will make every Turkish girl give birth to sons of Russia and turn every mosque into a whorehouse while we wouldn't give a shit. How's that for you ? Please attack Armenia and make Russia's (and our) day.

Just look up what happened to Eastern Europe in 1945 and you will understand because then you will get to see the true meaning of annihilation.

Mosov
03-03-2012, 05:08 PM
That they saved you from destruction when they were Soviets does not mean you have alliance. You're of no use to them now. They're likely to fight for Kazakhstan first than for Armenia.

No, it was thanks to the Armenian soldiers that Turks weren't able to invade Eastern Armenia. Russia will not want to lose a close ally in a strategic location and again the powerful Armenians in Russia play a big role as well. Putin's coming back to power, he's a close friend of Armenia and a war-hawk.

Mosov
03-03-2012, 05:12 PM
Enjoy this:

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Mosov
03-03-2012, 05:16 PM
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Eva
03-03-2012, 05:32 PM
That they saved you from destruction when they were Soviets does not mean you have alliance. You're of no use to them now. They're likely to fight for Kazakhstan first than for Armenia.

ahaha, we have a military alliance of 40 years with Russia signed last year. It's not about likely or unlikely

Armin
03-03-2012, 10:46 PM
But they will teach your sister, girlfriend and mother how to speak Russian while they are laying strapped to a table and turn them into the regiment's comfort women. Like the Russians did in Berlin. Russian behaviour during war time of a nature that we, thankfully, haven't seen for years. When you piss them off they will get you. And that's what you do when you attack Armenia. They are like buddy - buddy family. Unlike Turkey and Russia so they would really fuck you up.

That is true Civis. When we were winning against the Azeri Turks in 1993 and liberating historic Armenian land, Turkey began making "noises" that it is not going to remain idle, in a sense trying to see how far they can push Armenians or Russians for that matter. That is when a high ranking Russian general said, if Turkey interferes into the conflict it will be the beginning of World War 3 and annihilation of Turkey as we know it. Russia had some 50 major conflicts and all-out wars with Turkey in a span of 300 years and has won every single one of them.

Joe McCarthy
03-03-2012, 11:30 PM
Russia had some 50 major conflicts and all-out wars with Turkey in a span of 300 years and has won every single one of them.

False:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruth_River_Campaign

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Austrian-Turkish_War_(1735%E2%80%931739)

Magyar the Conqueror
03-03-2012, 11:32 PM
This is why we need the Turan allience.
The oppression of our brothers in Turkey by Russian and Armenia cannot go on!!

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Mosov
03-03-2012, 11:37 PM
Wait so you are a far-right Hungarian nationalist and support Turkey? lol

Joe McCarthy
03-03-2012, 11:40 PM
Wait so you are a far-right Hungarian nationalist and support Turkey? lol

That's what far right Hungarian nationalists have always done, from the Arrow Cross to Jobbik.

Armin
03-03-2012, 11:41 PM
False:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruth_River_Campaign

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Austrian-Turkish_War_(1735%E2%80%931739)

And all those territories were again taken back in the subsequent wars that were a direct continuation of that conflict. So ultimately, that was not a defeat, but a temporary setback.

Mosov
03-03-2012, 11:48 PM
That's what far right Hungarian nationalists have always done, from the Arrow Cross to Jobbik.

I thought the far right groups were also anti-Zionist. Because Turkish nationalists/kemalists that preach the "Great Turan" are effectively in bed with Zionists....so Magyar I'm assuming you also support Zionists?

Joe McCarthy
03-03-2012, 11:49 PM
And all those territories were again taken back in the subsequent wars that were a direct continuation of that conflict. So ultimately, that was not a defeat, but a temporary setback.

The Russians did get the better of the Russo-Turkish Wars, particularly from 1768 on. That much is true.

Armin
03-03-2012, 11:51 PM
That's what far right Hungarian nationalists have always done, from the Arrow Cross to Jobbik.

And they are a shame to countless real Hungarians like Hunyadi János that have given their all fighting the Turks in defense of Europe and European Civilization. You are not that far off that Jobbik mentality Joe, keep supporting Turks (mortal enemies of all of Europe). History will only come back to bite you in the arse for that, be sure of that.

Joe McCarthy
03-03-2012, 11:53 PM
I thought the far right groups were also anti-Zionist. Because Turkish nationalists/kemalists that preach the "Great Turan" are effectively in bed with Zionists....so Magyar I'm assuming you also support Zionists?

Hungarian nationalists are pro-Turkey, pro-Iran, and anti-Israel.

Armin
03-03-2012, 11:55 PM
The Russians did get the better of the Russo-Turkish Wars, particularly from 1768 on. That much is true.

Like I said, if the Turks think that Armeno-Russian alliance, is some "paper tiger" or they doubt our joint defense capabilities they are more than welcome to test it and find out. :thumb001:

Joe McCarthy
03-03-2012, 11:57 PM
And they are a shame to countless real Hungarians like Hunyadi János that have given their all fighting the Turks in defense of Europe and European Civilization. You are not that far off that Jobbik mentality Joe, keep supporting Turks (mortal enemies of all of Europe). History will only come back to bite you in the arse for that, be sure of that.

I'm not pro-Turkey. However, the current geopolitical situation precludes a US-Russia rapprochement due to Vladimir Putin. As long as that situation exists we'd be unwise to dump Turkey as an ally. They should remain outside of the EU though, and any military aggression on their part of the sort Saddam conducted in Kuwait should be met with force, and will be.

Armenia though should behave as well.

Btw, while Hungarians have a history of resisting the Ottomans, they also collaborated a good bit.

Mosov
03-04-2012, 12:09 AM
Hungarian nationalists are pro-Turkey, pro-Iran, and anti-Israel.

Hungarian nationalists like Magyar support the Turkish nationalists that preach about Great Turan. Those are the Kemalist nationalists that are in bed with Zionists, and those nationalists are anti-Iran. So it just doesn't add up.

Armin
03-04-2012, 12:11 AM
I'm not pro-Turkey. However, the current geopolitical situation precludes a US-Russia rapprochement due to Vladimir Putin. As long as that situation exists we'd be unwise to dump Turkey as an ally. They should remain outside of the EU though, and any military aggression on their part of the sort Saddam conducted in Kuwait should be met with force, and will be.

Btw, while Hungarians have a history of resisting the Ottomans, they also collaborated a good bit.

What you are implying by the above is that you want to see Russia be subservient and docile to US foreign policy. It is not going to happen Joe. Russia is a power in her own right and has a right to also conduct her own foreign policy as she sees fit. This kind of "big stick" policy is quite outdated in today's geopolitical reality. It has been this adventurist US expansion in trying to "expand" her sphere of influence that has caused a Russian reaction of formulating a tougher foreign policy in dealing with the encroachment. It is also this same US foreign policy that has driven Russia to seek closer alliance with entities like China, something that in my opinion is not in the long term interests of Europe.

Joe McCarthy
03-04-2012, 12:14 AM
Hungarian nationalists like Magyar support the Turkish nationalists that preach about Great Turan. Those are the Kemalist nationalists that are in bed with Zionists, and those nationalists are anti-Iran. So it just doesn't add up.

Take a look at this:

http://www.jobbik.com/jobbik_news/europe/3198.html

Solin
03-04-2012, 12:16 AM
This magyar guy is retarded

Joe McCarthy
03-04-2012, 12:19 AM
What you are implying by the above is that you want to see Russia be subservient and docile to US foreign policy. It is not going to happen Joe. Russia is a power in her own right and has a right to also conduct her own foreign policy as she sees fit. This kind of "big stick" policy is quite outdated in today's geopolitical reality. It has been this adventurist US expansion in trying to "expand" her sphere of influence that has caused a Russian reaction of formulating a tougher foreign policy in dealing with the encroachment. It is also this same US foreign policy that has driven Russia to seek closer alliance with entities like China, something that in my opinion is not in the long term interests of Europe.

If the Russians wish to get along with the US, they will have to stop assisting Syria, Sudan, Venezuela, stop arming China, etc. They have continued doing this even after Obama reached out to them. If Russia wants to be a Western state, it'll have to start acting like one, not promising the Chinese it'll go to war to assist China if we respond to Chinese aggression against Taiwan.

The only 'encroachment' has been to assist democratic movements that aren't subservient to the Putinist mafia state and incorporating scared European countries into NATO that rightly fear Russian aggression.

Armin
03-04-2012, 12:29 AM
If the Russians wish to get along with the US, they will have to stop assisting Syria, Sudan, Venezuela, stop arming China, etc. They have continued doing this even after Obama reached out to them. If Russia wants to be a Western state, it'll have to start acting like one, not promising the Chinese it'll go to war to assist China if we respond to Chinese aggression against Taiwan.

This is nothing compared to the meddling that US does in so many countries across the globe, having some one thousand military bases in more than one hundred countries.


The only 'encroachment' has been to assist democratic movements that aren't subservient to the Putinist mafia state and incorporating scared European countries into NATO that rightly fear Russian aggression.

"Democratic movements." :rolleyes: Come on Joe, maybe you can get away with that one in a class in some middle school. Please do not insult the intelligence of the forum members here. It is a calculated, shrewd policy based on promotion of US interests (which first and foremost has to do with securing and controlling the natural resources of the given countries) and nothing less than that.

Mosov
03-04-2012, 12:38 AM
Take a look at this:

http://www.jobbik.com/jobbik_news/europe/3198.html

So basically they are anti-European preaching their "Eastern origins" and are also supportive of pro-Zionist Turkic nationalists....these people are really confused.

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 12:59 AM
So basically they are anti-European preaching their "Eastern origins" and are also supportive of pro-Zionist Turkic nationalists....these people are really confused.

What IS this????!!!

ZIONISM!?!?

STOP SPREADING LIES AND BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA!

And stop trolling.

Mosov
03-04-2012, 01:04 AM
What IS this????!!!

ZIONISM!?!?

STOP SPREADING LIES AND BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA!

And stop trolling.

It's not BS. You seriously denying that Kemalist Turks are close with Zionists? lol

Stop supporting Turkic nationalists then, because they are in bed with Zionists. So by supporting them you are supporting Zionists.

Joe McCarthy
03-04-2012, 01:04 AM
This is nothing compared to the meddling that US does in so many countries across the globe, having some one thousand military bases in more than one hundred countries.



"Democratic movements." :rolleyes: Come on Joe, maybe you can get away with that one in a class in some middle school. Please do not insult the intelligence of the forum members here. It is a calculated, shrewd policy based on promotion of US interests (which first and foremost has to do with securing and controlling the natural resources of the given countries) and nothing less than that.

You can believe this nonsense all you wish, but the reality is that as long as Russia acts as it does, the current strategic alignments will remain as they are, and that can only be bad for Armenia.

Rather than bitching at the US for not accepting Russia's culture of corruption and support of rogue states, Armenians should be concentrating on trying to ameliorate Putin's anti-American policies. Until that happens nothing will change.

Nairi
03-04-2012, 01:13 AM
You can believe this nonsense all you wish, but the reality is that as long as Russia acts as it does, the current strategic alignments will remain as they are, and that can only be bad for Armenia.

Rather than bitching at the US for not accepting Russia's culture of corruption and support of rogue states, Armenians should be concentrating on trying to ameliorate Putin's anti-American policies. Until that happens nothing will change.

You don't have manners and cannot handle decent, civilized debate.

Stegura
03-04-2012, 01:18 AM
Hungarian nationalists are pro-Turkey, pro-Iran, and anti-Israel.

Also anti-Cigani and for restoring Greater Hungary! ;)

Stegura
03-04-2012, 01:21 AM
This magyar guy is retarded

Well he's just a 16 year old kid. :)

To be honest he reminds me alot of the late "TheBorrebyViking"

Bozkurt_Karabash
03-04-2012, 01:28 AM
You don't have manners and cannot handle decent, civilized debate.

Joe McArthy is one of the most cold debaters. Unlike some other persons from some Middle Eastern nationality.

Solin
03-04-2012, 01:31 AM
Well he's just a 16 year old kid. :)

To be honest he reminds me alot of the late "TheBorrebyViking"

Sometimes I forget tzhat they are younger people than me, nevertheless he is retarded

Joe McCarthy
03-04-2012, 01:32 AM
Also anti-Cigani and for restoring Greater Hungary! ;)

The obsession over reversing Trianon and restoring Greater Hungary drives these anti-Western, pro-Turkey policies. The implication is that they'd assist a Turkish invasion of Europe if it meant it would help them in restoring pre-Trianon borders.

Dangerous to say the least.

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 01:35 AM
Well he's just a 16 year old kid. :)

To be honest he reminds me alot of the late "TheBorrebyViking"

First of all please don't compare me to an American.

Secondly, you will be surprised at how many Hungarian nationalists support the same views as me. I would say 90% of Hungarian nationalists are like me.

Jobbik agrees.
The Arrow Cross party agreed.

Solin
03-04-2012, 01:37 AM
First of all please don't compare me to an American.

Secondly, you will be surprised at how many Hungarian nationalists support the same views as me. I would say 90% of Hungarian nationalists are like me.

Jobbik agrees.
The Arrow Cross party agreed.

Thats why you are retarded

Mosov
03-04-2012, 01:38 AM
First of all please don't compare me to an American.

Secondly, you will be surprised at how many Hungarian nationalists support the same views as me. I would say 90% of Hungarian nationalists are like me.

Jobbik agrees.
The Arrow Cross party agreed.

You support Turkic nationalists, hence you support Zionists.

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 01:39 AM
Thats why you are retarded

Croatia je Hungary so go fuck yourself.

Solin
03-04-2012, 01:43 AM
Croatia je Hungary so go fuck yourself.

LOL

we are neighbours and I never thought you think like that ( Turanic alliance ...)
If you think that WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON APRICITY?

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 01:45 AM
LOL

we are neighbours and I never thought you think like that ( Turanic alliance ...)
If you think that WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON APRICITY?

I am spreading Atilla's message.

Solin
03-04-2012, 01:46 AM
I am spreading Atilla's message.

You are a 16 old delusional kid.
You think that Atilla was white

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 01:49 AM
Wait, Magyar, you're a Turanist? Heck, another one! Why must all good Hungarian nationalists seek greater connection with the Turkics? Why!

Solin
03-04-2012, 01:52 AM
No, he was mongoloid

http://www.nndb.com/people/956/000091683/

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 01:54 AM
Wait, Magyar, you're a Turanist? Heck, another one! Why must all good Hungarian nationalists seek greater connection with the Turkics? Why!

Well what am I supposed to do? Ally with Slovakia and Serbia?

Mosov
03-04-2012, 01:55 AM
He's young and confused. Doesn't understand that Turanists are in bed with Zioinsts. It breaks his whole political view that's why he's so upset.

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 01:58 AM
Well what am I supposed to do? Ally with Slovakia and Serbia?

No, but not with Kazakhstan or whatever other Turkic nation. You are a European, you stay with the Europeans. Sure, you might be their friend, but don't prefer them over your own kinsmen.

Solin
03-04-2012, 02:00 AM
Well what am I supposed to do? Ally with Slovakia and Serbia?

Do not ally with anyone. Care only for your country and thats it.
You want an alliance with Turks whos culture is the opposite of every European culture. Are you crazy?

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 02:02 AM
No, but not with Kazakhstan or whatever other Turkic nation. You are a European, you stay with the Europeans. Sure, you might be their friend, but don't prefer them over your own kinsmen.

Other than Poland and Croatia we dont have friends in Europe, maybe Finland. Austria and Germany are long gone and no longer friends of Hungary.

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 02:04 AM
Other than Poland and Croatia we dont have friends in Europe, maybe Finland. Austria and Germany are long gone and no longer friends of Hungary.

Well then, do with what little you have. And don't hate other Europeans just because of their ties with your countries.

Mosov
03-04-2012, 02:04 AM
You want an alliance with Turks whos culture is the opposite of every European culture. Are you crazy?

you're breaking his world view lol

Solin
03-04-2012, 02:06 AM
Other than Poland and Croatia we dont have friends in Europe, maybe Finland. Austria and Germany are long gone and no longer friends of Hungary.

You are European and start acting like one.
Because of those like you on this forum threads were opened which questioned should Hungarians even be accepted as Europeans.
Is that what you want

And yes I think also that Hungary is a good friend of Croatia and vice versa.

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 02:06 AM
Do not ally with anyone. Care only for your country and thats it.
You want an alliance with Turks whos culture is the opposite of every European culture. Are you crazy?

Chances are EU won't like Jobbiks policies so they will 'spread democracy' to Hungary, and thanks to Trianon, we are too weak to repel a Nato invasion, and theres nowhere to do guerilla warfare on the Great Hungarian Plane.

Jobbik also wants to move its economy eastwards, which will be beneficial to Hungary.

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 02:09 AM
Chances are EU won't like Jobbiks policies so they will 'spread democracy' to Hungary, and thanks to Trianon, we are too weak to repel a Nato invasion, and theres nowhere to do guerilla warfare on the Great Hungarian Plane.

Jobbik also wants to move its economy eastwards, which will be beneficial to Hungary.

Don't ally yourself with the EU. It will probably fall soon anyway (hopefully). Once were rid of the Zionist rule in Europe, it will be beneficial to have economic ties and an alliance yourselves with other Europeans. The time is coming, you just have to wait.

Solin
03-04-2012, 02:09 AM
Chances are EU won't like Jobbiks policies so they will 'spread democracy' to Hungary, and thanks to Trianon, we are too weak to repel a Nato invasion, and theres nowhere to do guerilla warfare on the Great Hungarian Plane.

Jobbik also wants to move its economy eastwards, which will be beneficial to Hungary.

You are an extremist, what on earth are you talking about, what Nato invasion.

Mosov
03-04-2012, 02:11 AM
Don't ally yourself with the EU. It will probably fall soon anyway (hopefully). Once were rid of the Zionist rule in Europe, it will be beneficial to have economic ties and an alliance yourselves with other Europeans. The time is coming, you just have to wait.

Your friend there though supports Turanists who are best friends with Zionists. How do you reconcile that?

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 02:12 AM
You are an extremist, what on earth are you talking about, what Nato invasion.
Hungary is a part of NATO.

For now, Jobbik is anti nato.

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 02:14 AM
Don't ally yourself with the EU. It will probably fall soon anyway (hopefully). Once were rid of the Zionist rule in Europe, it will be beneficial to have economic ties and an alliance yourselves with other Europeans. The time is coming, you just have to wait.

I refuse to be a part of Europe where Slovakia is independent, where Vojvodina is Serbian, where Zakarpatia is Ukrainian and where Transylvania is Romanian.

Stegura
03-04-2012, 02:14 AM
Other than Poland and Croatia we dont have friends in Europe, maybe Finland. Austria and Germany are long gone and no longer friends of Hungary.

I also think that Bulgaria is a good friend of Hungary.


Chances are EU won't like Jobbiks policies so they will 'spread democracy' to Hungary, and thanks to Trianon, we are too weak to repel a Nato invasion, and theres nowhere to do guerilla warfare on the Great Hungarian Plain

Even with the pre-Triannon borders restored Hungary would get annihilated by a NATO invasion.

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 02:19 AM
I also think that Bulgaria is a good friend of Hungary.



Even with the pre-Triannon borders restored Hungary would get annihilated by a NATO invasion.

Serbia didn't get 'annihilated', even though they have less people.

But what WOULD happen would be that Gabor Vona would get excecuted for 'crimes against humanity' and A Jewish American would be appointed as the puppet President of Hungary.

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 02:20 AM
I refuse to be a part of Europe where Slovakia is independent, where Vojvodina is Serbian, where Zakarpatia is Ukrainian and where Transylvania is Romanian.
Then I suppose there is a better arrangement: divide Hungary between Romania, Slovakia, Austria and Croatia.

Problem solved. Peace in Europe finally secured and Turkey kept at bay. Everybody happy. Hmm except for you lot but eh: someone needs to draw the shortest straw and it might just as well be you troublemakers.

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 02:20 AM
I refuse to be a part of Europe where Slovakia is independent, where Vojvodina is Serbian, where Zakarpatia is Ukrainian and where Transylvania is Romanian.

I can live with it. It's just land for goodness sake! If the Hungarian minorities are treated well, I can't see why not. As well, Magyar, I have a Slovak friend--do you consider me a traitor?

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 02:22 AM
Then I suppose there is a better arrangement: divide Hungary between Romania, Slovakia, Austria and Croatia.

Problem solved.

Lol. Go back to the Netherlands and watch that it isn't divided between Germany and whatnot:wink.

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 02:23 AM
I can live with it. It's just land for goodness sake! If the Hungarian minorities are treated well, I can't see why not. As well, Magyar, I have a Slovak friend--do you consider me a traitor?

No theres nothing wrong with being friends with Northen Hungarians.

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 02:24 AM
Lol. Go back to the Netherlands and watch that it isn't divided between Germany and whatnot:wink.
We're not causing the trouble in Europe - having a party in control that wants to open the gates for Turkey. And anyway apart from that: we have good relations with our neighbours these days. Even with the frogs and the krauts.

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 02:31 AM
We're not causing the trouble in Europe - having a party in control that wants to open the gates for Turkey. And anyway apart from that: we have good relations with our neighbours these days. Even with the frogs and the krauts.

I was joking, Civis.

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 02:32 AM
I was joking, Civis.
I wasn't. This bollocks has got to stop one day and if your ruling party wants to open up the gates to the Turks then that makes your country a lethal threat to us all that should be neutralised for the sake of the rest of us.

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 02:32 AM
No theres nothing wrong with being friends with Northen Hungarians.

Slovak, not Northern Hungarian. Different people and culture.

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 02:32 AM
I wasn't.

Are you sure you're Dutch? You're humour seems more typical for an Englishman.

I do not support any party that wants to open its legs for any Turks. As you can seeby my statistics, I don't identify with Turkic peoples.

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 02:34 AM
Are you sure you're Dutch? You're humour seems more typical for an Englishman.
Reken maar dat ik een kaaskop ben, magyaar. There isn't much difference between Dutch and English humour anyway - except for the fact that we actually have it. ;)

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 02:35 AM
Reken maar dat ik een kaaskop ben, magyaar. There isn't much difference between Dutch and English humour anyway - except for the fact that we actually have it. ;)

I had a connecting flight through Amsterdam thee other summer. Nice people there, but far too many immigrants for my liking.

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 02:36 AM
Slovak, not Northern Hungarian. Different people and culture.

Do you honestly believe that? :rofl:

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 02:38 AM
I had a connecting flight through Amsterdam thee other summer. Nice people there, but far too many immigrants for my liking.
I know the feeling. That's why Dutch generally to avoid the place except for during Queen's Day or Liberation Day. Then we push aside the immigrants and the bloody tourists and re-take the city for a couple of hours. :thumb001:

Where will you be flying ?

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 02:43 AM
I know the feeling. That's why Dutch generally to avoid the place except for during Queen's Day or Liberation Day. Then we push aside the immigrants and the bloody tourists and re-take the city for a couple of hours. :thumb001:

Where will you be flying ?

If only it could remain that way.

To Romania, to visit my grandparents. They live near the mountains. It's nice there, except for the gypsies who cause a lot of trouble.

I don't really like it in Canada. It's too different from Europe. I think I might live in Germany (I've always gotten along best with Germans for some reason) once I'm done highschool. My uncle lives there, and he said he'll help me if I'm bent on returning.

Solin
03-04-2012, 02:47 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 02:48 AM
If only it could remain that way.
That's something a lot of foreigners don't really understand and my English ex was surprised by that fact that Amsterdam and the Netherlands are like two different worlds. There are places in Amsterdam where Dutch as a language is no longer used. That's happy clappy multiculturalland - filled with immigrants, expats other blockhands and tourists - as soon as you leave the big cities you enter the Netherlands: the Netherlands, particularly the more rural areas of the centre of the country and the East are more conservative. That's where they speak dialect and life goes on the way it has always been.


To Romania, to visit my grandparents. They live near the mountains. It's nice there, except for the gypsies who cause a lot of trouble.
That's like 11 hours in total from Canuckistan ? That's a long trip. Do they live out in the Carpathians ?


I don't really like it in Canada. It's too different from Europe. I think I might live in Germany (I've always gotten along best with Germans for some reason) once I'm done highschool. My uncle lives there, and he said he'll help me if I'm bent on returning.
It's the new world is it ? Yes.. I have been to our newest province Flevoland so I know how you feel: no culture, no tradition. Fokol that ties you back to the land of your ancestors. Close to 40,50 years ago most of it was still water.

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 02:49 AM
Do you honestly believe that? :rofl:

Yes, I've had experience with both and they are different.

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 02:49 AM
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Siegfried
03-04-2012, 02:55 AM
That's something a lot of foreigners don't really understand and my English ex was surprised by that fact that Amsterdam and the Netherlands are like two different worlds. There are places in Amsterdam where Dutch as a language is no longer used. That's happy clappy multiculturalland - filled with immigrants, expats other blockhands and tourists - as soon as you leave the big cities you enter the Netherlands: the Netherlands, particularly the more rural areas of the centre of the country and the East are more conservative. That's where they speak dialect and life goes on the way it has always been.
From what I understand, Rotterdam is in the same mess as Amsterdam, isn't it?



That's like 11 hours in total from Canuckistan ? That's a long trip. Do they live out in the Carpathians?
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It's pretty long, but it's nice looking out the window when flying over Europe.

They live just south of them, maybe a half an hour drive from, but you can still see them from the distance. I also have to make a four hour drive to visit my other grandparents who live on the other side of the country (check up Campulung and Bacau on wikipedia to see more exactly where they live), so it's nice going through the mountains and the old German cities in Transylvania.

Mosov
03-04-2012, 02:56 AM
Can't believe this thread about Armenian Military has gotten trolled like this. It all started with that Bozkurt troll, I hope Mods take action.

Solin
03-04-2012, 02:57 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 02:58 AM
From what I understand, Rotterdam is in the same mess as Amsterdam, isn't it?

It's pretty much the Randstad but yet again: only the built- up areas. So you won't see many immigrants in let's say Boskoop or some other hickville in the west.




It's pretty long, but it's nice looking out the window when flying over Europe.
You get to see a lot then. I guess that you will fly in from the West so if you land during the day you get to see the Netherlands from it's best side: from the sea.


They live just south of them, maybe a half an hour drive from, but you can still see them from the distance. I also have to make a four hour drive to visit my other grandparents who live on the other side of the country (check up Campulung and Bacau on wikipedia to see more exactly where they live), so it's nice going through the mountains and the old German cities in Transylvania.
The area is lovely. It's nothing like what we have here. If I remember correctly there is a RailAway episode about Romania in the Romanian section so you might want to go and take a look. :thumb001:

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:00 AM
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Siegfried
03-04-2012, 03:03 AM
You get to see a lot then. I guess that you will fly in from the West so if you land during the day you get to see the Netherlands from it's best side: from the sea.


It looked like a very odd country last summer when I flew in because of the coastline: it's about half land, half water.

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:05 AM
It looked like a very odd country last summer when I flew in because of the coastline: it's about half land, half water.
It is a very weird country. You'd see something similar in Denmark or Belgium. But we are used to it but indeed I too noticed it when I came from Britain: the thing is when you compare it to other countries that things are so incredibly organised. Every line is straight and every inch of the land is being used for something.

Solin
03-04-2012, 03:08 AM
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Siegfried
03-04-2012, 03:08 AM
It is a very weird country. You'd see something similar in Denmark or Belgium. But we are used to it but indeed I too noticed it when I came from Britain: the thing is when you compare it to other countries that things are so incredibly organised. Every line is straight and every inch of the land is being used for something.

That's so true. I was very surprised at how neatly it was layed out.

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:10 AM
That's so true. I was very surprised at how neatly it was layed out.
I think we are one of the few countries that have that. We can't afford not too.

Mosov
03-04-2012, 03:11 AM
When I think of Holland, I think of this lol:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6IG8q8kX8PY/TgNRMu8kiPI/AAAAAAAAErY/hk3FVD4Aois/s1600/GeertWilders.jpg

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:12 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:14 AM
When I think of Holland, I think of this lol:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6IG8q8kX8PY/TgNRMu8kiPI/AAAAAAAAErY/hk3FVD4Aois/s1600/GeertWilders.jpg
That's funny.. because the guy isn't Dutch and the only interests he represents are Israeli.

Mosov
03-04-2012, 03:16 AM
That's funny.. because the guy isn't Dutch and the only interests he represents are Israeli.

Yeah it's really unfortunate he sold himself to Israel and Zionist interests. He even spoke at a Synagogue once with a Yammakah. What a sell out.

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:20 AM
Yeah it's really unfortunate he sold himself to Israel and Zionist interests. He even spoke at a Synagogue once with a Yammakah. What a sell out.
What do you expect from an Indo Jew anyway.. :coffee:

Mosov
03-04-2012, 03:20 AM
What do you expect from an Indo Jew anyway.. :coffee:

Indo Jew? is that why he bleached his hair?

Solin
03-04-2012, 03:20 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:22 AM
Indo Jew? is that why he bleached his hair?
Yap.

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:23 AM
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Solin
03-04-2012, 03:23 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:24 AM
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Solin
03-04-2012, 03:25 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:25 AM
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Solin
03-04-2012, 03:26 AM
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Solin
03-04-2012, 03:27 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:27 AM
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Mosov
03-04-2012, 03:29 AM
Yap.

He must be very self conscience lol

Solin
03-04-2012, 03:30 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:30 AM
He must be very self conscience lol
Or lots of American and Jewish money and political motives. I don't know what he looked like back in the day as he was a political zero that no one cared about.

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:32 AM
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Mosov
03-04-2012, 03:32 AM
Or lots of American and Jewish money and political motives. I don't know what he looked like back in the day as he was a political zero that no one cared about.

So why do conservative Christian Dutch vote for him? lol he did well in the last elections

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:35 AM
So why do conservative Christian Dutch vote for him? lol he did well in the last elections
That's because 1 million people were a bunch of bloody idiots. Who are now steadily waking up to the fact that they have been bloody idiots.

Solin
03-04-2012, 03:37 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:39 AM
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Mosov
03-04-2012, 03:42 AM
That's because 1 million people were a bunch of bloody idiots. Who are now steadily waking up to the fact that they have been bloody idiots.

Armenian Ruling party for example is part of European People's Party. How are the centre right people in Holland?

Solin
03-04-2012, 03:42 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:43 AM
Armenian Ruling party for example is part of European People's Party. How are the centre right people in Holland?
Christian Democratic Appeal and People's Party for Freedom and Democracy. They are an absolute nightmare.

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 03:44 AM
Why do all Armenian threads get trolled?

Mosov
03-04-2012, 03:46 AM
Why do all Armenian threads get trolled?

Because there exists Turkish trolls. (e.g. Bozkurt)

Siegfried
03-04-2012, 03:47 AM
Because there exists Turkish trolls. (e.g. Bozkurt)

Stupid Ottomans.

Solin
03-04-2012, 03:47 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 03:47 AM
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Mosov
03-04-2012, 03:56 AM
okay, back to armenian military:

http://ankakh.com/ankakh/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/1200-x-750-03.jpg

http://www.haynews.am/images/Dh6hjFloxZqyVKFzlNpfAj6gCy.jpg

http://himnakan.mskh.am/sites/default/files/styles/big/public/25184.jpg

http://www.azadkhosk.com/Images/photos%20original/desaged%201102.jpg

http://www.hayzinvor.am/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/18-6-2-2.jpg

Solin
03-04-2012, 04:03 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 04:05 AM
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Solin
03-04-2012, 04:12 AM
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Solin
03-04-2012, 04:14 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 04:19 AM
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Solin
03-04-2012, 04:20 AM
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The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 04:22 AM
press edit
you need to type at least two symbols or letters
Ach. Yes. I am a mod/admin somewhere else and I can't delete posts but this might work.

EDIT: Done.

Solin
03-04-2012, 04:27 AM
Ach. Yes. I am a mod/admin somewhere else and I can't delete posts but this might work.

EDIT: Done.

anyway, thanks
it was a big misunderstanding
if you were in my shoes you would act as I did

The Lawspeaker
03-04-2012, 04:30 AM
anyway, thanks
it was a big misunderstanding
if you were in my shoes you would act as I did
I probably would. Although I also have the sense of humour to laugh. One can't really divide a front yard the size of a post stamp lol. One that is filled with the most obstinate breed one could possibly imagine. A nightmare for any tax collector or regime. Even for our own.

Us becoming French or German ? I don't envy the French and Germans then. Instead I'd pity them.

Solin
03-04-2012, 04:30 AM
I probably would. Although I also have the sense of humour to laugh. One can't really divide a front yard the size of a post stamp lol.

LOOOOL

Mosov
03-04-2012, 04:37 AM
what's with all the deleted posts? lol

Stegura
03-04-2012, 05:13 AM
what's with all the deleted posts? lol

Yeah, I missed out on all the fun! :(

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 11:00 AM
Yes, I've had experience with both and they are different.

And I have lived in the country meeting Slovaks on a daily basis.
They are basically Hungarians in denial, a people with no history or past, simply floating along as time goes by.

Slovakia NEEDS to join Hungary, for their own good, it is an artificial state.



We had to choose between a direct vote by the people or the creation of Czechoslovakia.
Tomas Garrigue Masaryk, first president of Czechoslovakia.


May the memories of the Hungarian nation live in our souls, because we did not suffer as much during the thousand years of Hungarian rule as we did during six years of Czech rule.
Father Andrej Hlinka, the leader of the Slovak People's Party


The reason why elections could not be held in the occupied territory of Felvidék (Hungarian Highlands) was that Czechoslovakia would not have come into existence after the population would have voted against it.
André Tardieu, the French prime minister three times, in his book La Paix

Magyar the Conqueror
03-04-2012, 11:08 AM
I just want to apologise that the thread went slightly off topic.
Sorry Armenians. Peace.

Armenian Bishop
03-08-2012, 05:50 PM
There is no army. We had a great army with the Soviet Army in which our young men were properly educated and taken care of, but that's been completely dismantled. The "army" that there is now is run by brutal gangsters that treats our young men worse than farm animals. This is the same "army" that a lot of my family members have run away from so that their kids wouldn't go through the horrendous experience of being in it. My cousin's wife for example had a brother who was killed in that "army".

Some 43 years ago, as a 13 year old teenager, I had a boyhood dream to join the ranks of Armenian Warriors, like those Armenian Fedeyees who avenged the deaths of Armenian men, women and children, during the days of the Armenian Genocide. That was 2 decades before Armenia was crowned with Independence, in 1991, people couldn't comprehend or believe that my faith in the dream of Armenian Independence would come true.

Many Non-Armenians didn't even know about Armenia, while others, here in California, laughed at me during the days of the Vietnam War, when I tried to tell them that Armenia would someday be independent, and a member of the United Nations. Now, we have a Sovereign Armenian Nation, already independent for some 2 decades, but I never enjoyed the good fortune of joining the proud fraternity of Armenian Warriors in our honorable Armenian Military, something which I deeply regret.

Some isolated incidents of abuse, in the Armenian Military, don't represent the overall experience of life in the Armenian Military. The Armenian Military is well respected and honored by Armenians abroad, as well as at home; they are prepared to defend Armenia against aggression from Turkey and Azerbaijan, both hostile neighbors who pose a direct military threat.

Don't expect to receive a warm welcome from other Armenians here, Swan, when you bash the Armenian Military, and trash it with some strange nostalgia that longs for the days of Soviet Armenia. It was the Soviet Bolsheviks who betrayed Armenia numerous times; though, its true that they shielded Armenia from Turkey, and fostered a rejuvenation of the country.

While the Russian Czar Nicholas II took a genuine interest in defending Armenians from the genocidal acts of the Young Turks, the Bolsheviks, on the other hand, gave orders to send their military packing during the grim struggles of World War I, so that a genocide stricken Armenia had to fend for itself.

After Armenia defeated the Turks in a last ditch stand, it was the Soviet leadership which proceeded to gift Armenian lands to its neighboring countries: During the 1920's the Soviets gifted Kars and Ani to Turkey, Karabakh (Artzakh) and Nakhichevan to Azerbaijan, and Javakhetia to Georgia.

Mosov
03-11-2012, 05:55 PM
Armenia Army Video Tribute

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Nairi
03-24-2012, 04:44 AM
U.S. Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta met with Armenian Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan at the Pentagon, March 23, 2012. Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said the two leaders discussed U.S.-Armenian defense cooperation, including Armenia's efforts on defense reform and U.S. willingness to support enhanced training of the Armenian military.

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Mosov
03-24-2012, 05:05 AM
U.S. Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta met with Armenian Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan at the Pentagon, March 23, 2012. Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said the two leaders discussed U.S.-Armenian defense cooperation, including Armenia's efforts on defense reform and U.S. willingness to support enhanced training of the Armenian military.

http://armeniansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/306137_10150636223028651_676293650_9502825_1134303 42_n.jpg

quality of the photo is really good....

http://www.defense.gov/dodcmsshare/homepagephoto/2012-03/hires_120323-D-BW835-024.JPG

Mosov
03-24-2012, 05:29 AM
This was in the summer when organising the military exercises to take place in 2012 with US:

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Armenian Bishop
04-26-2012, 12:12 AM
Many of these guys, portrayed here, in the Armenian Special Forces could pass easily for the local Europeans in a number of European Countries.

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Arsen_
05-09-2012, 03:38 PM
In this video some fragments of today's Military Parade in Stepanakert, capital of Arcax (Nagorno Karabakh)

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Arsen_
07-08-2012, 11:22 AM
A group of Armenian soldiers sent to Kosovo

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Arsen_
11-27-2012, 06:41 PM
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Arsen_
01-15-2013, 12:17 AM
Armenia, Greece sign military cooperation program for 2013

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Arsen_
01-15-2013, 10:46 PM
Serbian journalist Dragan Vukotich visited Arcax (Nagorno Karabag) and wrote in newspaper "Политика" an article about Armenian soldiers called "Прст на обарачу, клетва у зраку (Нагорно-Карабаха)"

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Arsen_
02-04-2013, 08:41 PM
Russia sets its face towards major ally in Caucasus – Armenia

The visit of Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoygu to Armenia is over. This was Shoygu’s first trip abroad in his capacity as Defense Minister.

The two sides agreed on the need to “further reinforce allied and strategic relations” and “deepen military-technical cooperation” between Armenia and Russia.

“We discussed issues related to military-technical cooperation and further development of our strategic partnership,” Shoygu told reporters. “This February we will clarify a program for our cooperation for the next five years.”

It was announced that Yerevan and Moscow are already preparing to open seven facilities in Armenia for maintenance and repair of military hardware. The Russian government daily “Rossiiskaya Gazeta” reported earlier on Tuesday that they will cater for tanks, armored personnel carriers, air-defense systems and even helicopter gunships.

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Qemist
02-04-2013, 08:48 PM
I didn't know Armenia was close to Russia. That shows you can learn something anywhere, even on The Apricity.

Arsen_
02-04-2013, 09:49 PM
I didn't know Armenia was close to Russia. That shows you can learn something anywhere, even on The Apricity.

Armenia and Russia are both members of a military alliance called the CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organization)

The CSTO charter reaffirmed the desire of all participating states to abstain from the use or threat of force. Signatories would not be able to join other military alliances or other groups of states, while aggression against one signatory would be perceived as an aggression against all.

Qemist
02-05-2013, 05:22 AM
Armenia and Russia are both members of a military alliance called the CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organization)

Ah, you still hold on to your "bear". Georgia and Ukraine have outgrown it; perhaps Armenia should too.

xajapa
02-06-2013, 11:16 PM
Ah, you still hold on to your "bear". Georgia and Ukraine have outgrown it; perhaps Armenia should too.
That may be easier said than done for an isolated nation like Armenia. What I find interesting is that Armenia appears to have a good military relationship with both the U.S. and Russia. That is quite an accomplishment:
http://www.rferl.org/content/armenia_russia_nato_washington_wallander/24250690.html

Qutuzistan
02-06-2013, 11:22 PM
It still looks like they have their soviet stock weaponry and equipment. When will they upgrade and rehash?

Arsen_
02-07-2013, 02:52 AM
It still looks like they have their soviet stock weaponry and equipment. When will they upgrade and rehash?

There is enough modern weapon in Armenia. Even some crazy Azeri guy called Geydar Dzhemal who is the founder and chairman of the Islamic Committee of Russia recently wrote:

http://www.dzhemal.com/?go=tags/armeniya/

"...Ядерное оружие есть в Армении!

Армянские физики были видным подразделением советского военного атомного комплекса. Академик Амбарцумян осуществлял прямые контакты с американскими коллегами в поздний советский период. Отец H-bomb — Сахаров — был женат на армянке с мощными научно-масонскими связями. АЭС в Армении никогда не была предметом обсуждения.

Задумайтесь на тем, почему Москва (Горбачёв) без разговоров приняли сторону Еревана против Баку. Азербайджан имеет стратегическое преимущество. Он полон нефти и газа. Азербайджанцы не имели диаспоры и были лояльны. У армян есть одно преимущество, которое решало всё: они — держатели акций в советском ядерном холдинге."


"...There are Nuclear weapons in Armenia!

Armenian physicists were prominent branch of the Soviet military nuclear complex. Academician Ambartsumian offering direct contact with their American counterparts in the late Soviet period. Father of H-bomb - Sakharov - was married to an Armenian woman with a strong scientific and Masonic ties. Armenian Nuclear Station was never an issue.

Reflect on the question: why Moscow (Gorbachev) without talking sided Yerevan against Baku. Azerbaijan has a strategic advantage. He is full of oil and gas. Azerbaijanis did not have Diaspora and were loyal. The Armenians have one advantage that solves all: they are shareholders in the Soviet nuclear holding."

Aquafina
02-07-2013, 03:09 AM
How do Armenians differ from Levantines?

There is a difference in appearance, but how about genetically?

Arsen_
02-08-2013, 08:00 PM
Iranian delegation visited Armenian Ministry of Defense

Delegation led by the deputy Minister of Defense, General-mayor Nasrollah Qalantari visits Armenia on February 7-9, 2013. Press service of Armenian Ministry of Defense informs about this.

On February 8 the delegation had a meeting with Armenian first deputy Minister of Defense Davit Tonoyan. On the same day the delegation was hosted by Armenian Minister of Defense Seyran Ohanyan.

During the meeting the officials discussed some issues about the Armenian-Iranian cooperation, referred to some regional issues and conflicts.

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Hoca
02-08-2013, 08:02 PM
I hope Karabakh issue gets resolved soon.

Arsen_
02-15-2013, 10:12 AM
Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces and first Deputy Defense Minister of Russia, Valery Gerasimov, arrived in Armenia’s capital city Yerevan on Thursday for a two-day visit.

The parties will discuss the avenues for deepening the strategic cooperation between both countries in the defense sector.

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Sinbad
02-15-2013, 10:17 AM
these people, have nothing, no one, or nothing to scare a mighty Nation like ours, Sorry....
face the truth....

Yalquzaq
02-15-2013, 10:22 AM
There is enough modern weapon in Armenia. Even some crazy Azeri guy called Geydar Dzhemal who is the founder and chairman of the Islamic Committee of Russia recently wrote:

http://www.dzhemal.com/?go=tags/armeniya/

"...Ядерное оружие есть в Армении!

Армянские физики были видным подразделением советского военного атомного комплекса. Академик Амбарцумян осуществлял прямые контакты с американскими коллегами в поздний советский период. Отец H-bomb — Сахаров — был женат на армянке с мощными научно-масонскими связями. АЭС в Армении никогда не была предметом обсуждения.

Задумайтесь на тем, почему Москва (Горбачёв) без разговоров приняли сторону Еревана против Баку. Азербайджан имеет стратегическое преимущество. Он полон нефти и газа. Азербайджанцы не имели диаспоры и были лояльны. У армян есть одно преимущество, которое решало всё: они — держатели акций в советском ядерном холдинге."


"...There are Nuclear weapons in Armenia!

Armenian physicists were prominent branch of the Soviet military nuclear complex. Academician Ambartsumian offering direct contact with their American counterparts in the late Soviet period. Father of H-bomb - Sakharov - was married to an Armenian woman with a strong scientific and Masonic ties. Armenian Nuclear Station was never an issue.

Reflect on the question: why Moscow (Gorbachev) without talking sided Yerevan against Baku. Azerbaijan has a strategic advantage. He is full of oil and gas. Azerbaijanis did not have Diaspora and were loyal. The Armenians have one advantage that solves all: they are shareholders in the Soviet nuclear holding."

Are you serious or just being retarded? So you think (according to a personal opinion of some guy you call as "crazy" in first place) there are atomic bombs in hands of Armenia? LOL

Russia sided with Armenia against Azerbaijan because Armenia has the role of a Russian forepost in the region, Azerbaijan isn't like this, nor would ever accept to be, and the last Russian military presence in Azerbaijan ended with the closure of Gabala radar station.

As for "modern weapons in Armenia", there is practically nothing that you can call "modern" in hands of Armenian army.

Sinbad
02-15-2013, 10:59 AM
so what you think because theres a few nucular weopons we should be scared,,,Grow-up...

Your talking to the biggest TRAINED military force in the World...

think before you scream bull poo, trained....

Artavazt
02-15-2013, 11:26 AM
Are you serious or just being retarded? So you think (according to a personal opinion of some guy you call as "crazy" in first place) there are atomic bombs in hands of Armenia? LOL

Russia sided with Armenia against Azerbaijan because Armenia has the role of a Russian forepost in the region, Azerbaijan isn't like this, nor would ever accept to be, and the last Russian military presence in Azerbaijan ended with the closure of Gabala radar station.

As for "modern weapons in Armenia", there is practically nothing that you can call "modern" in hands of Armenian army.

I dont think he was trying to insist that Armenia has atomic bombs,he was talking about
possibilites.
It is well known that a lots of nuclear scientists in soviet union were armenians.
Also if you have nuclear reactors like armenian ones,it will be a matter of time till u have
atomic weapons. It is one of the main reasons that West is deeply concerned with iran's
nuclear achievements.

Regarding our moderns weapons,we dont like to show up our weapons and make
claims everyday like some of our neighbours "we are getting stronger we will win...etc"
As there is an old armenian saying says that "the dogs that bark a lot never bite"

You are always welcome to start a new war/agression on us, then you can make
some calculations by dividing the size of the new lands that you will lose on the time that
will take you to lose and know how modern or antique our weapons are.

Yalquzaq
02-15-2013, 11:34 AM
So you think there are possibilities of Armenia having atomic bombs? And you are quite serious about this?

Yeah sure, we get to know about Azerbaijan's military procurements through the other side, not our own, our defence ministry never ever publishes any info on weapon procurements (which is actually wrong, but they hide the information under the pretext of "we are in the state of war"), and even in agreements they set conditions to keep the contracts secret, but sooner or later most of them becomes known anyway (specially if the size of contract is large). For instance the contract with Israeli IAI last year, at first IAI reported that it had signed a deal with a unnamed Asian country (on Azerbaijan's request of course), then a month later Israeli defence officials told about this deal in a interview, and it was not received positively by Azerbaijani government (of course besides keeping the arms deal secret as in most cases, Azerbaijan also does not like to seem as a important customer of Israeli weapons). Just a single example. The contract for S-300P was signed in 2009 but first become known to public in 2010, and if the information hadn't been "leaked" to the (Russian) press, we wouldn't know it until they decided to show it. I don't know where you guys have got that line that you all seem to repeat.

When Armenia actually starts to buy "modern weapons", then lets talk, not this children talk you talk now. There is no such thing as "we don't show our weapons", the same can be said about everyone then.

Arsen_
02-15-2013, 11:49 AM
As for "modern weapons in Armenia", there is practically nothing that you can call "modern" in hands of Armenian army.

I am not going to argue with you. Just one saying: during the first war Armenian Army taught you to run away. During second war Armenian Army will teach you to swim away.

Hoca
02-15-2013, 11:50 AM
It is foolish to talk about Armenia producing Nukes. They don't have the money, infrastructure and knowledge. Armenia is second worst economy in the world. If we would say, Ethiopia, which economy is much better than Armenia's economy is going to produce Nukes. Everybody would laugh. The truth is Only deterrent Armenia has against Azerbaijan is Russia and that deterrent is slowly weakening. Russia is doing big projects with Turkey and doing a lot of arms trade with Azerbaijan. If we look at the signs, Russia will sacrifice Armenia to have better economic relationship, even better than now. When Russia looks the otherside. Karabakh issue will be settled in a couple of weeks.

Musso
02-15-2013, 03:05 PM
It is foolish to talk about Armenia producing Nukes. They don't have the money, infrastructure and knowledge. Armenia is second worst economy in the world. If we would say, Ethiopia, which economy is much better than Armenia's economy is going to produce Nukes. Everybody would laugh. The truth is Only deterrent Armenia has against Azerbaijan is Russia and that deterrent is slowly weakening. Russia is doing big projects with Turkey and doing a lot of arms trade with Azerbaijan. If we look at the signs, Russia will sacrifice Armenia to have better economic relationship, even better than now. When Russia looks the otherside. Karabakh issue will be settled in a couple of weeks.

Again, an inaccurate statement. You are basing that on a outdated article written by a Forbes writer, that also included Ukraine in that list. In the new edition of that article Armenia was not in that list anymore. And if you look at actual economic sources not the articles written by some random writers, that statement is again false. It's just a punchline used by Turks/Azeris.

Arsen_
05-10-2013, 12:37 AM
http://armenpress.am/static/news/b/2013/05/718286.jpg

YEREVAN, MAY 9: The Minister of Defense of the Republic of Armenia Seyran Ohanyan does not exclude that in case of necessity preventive measures will be implemented against the Azerbaijani threats. As reported by Armenpress, answering the question - are preventive actions possible in case of getting information about the forthcoming attack – the Minister of Defense of Armenia did not exclude anything.

Philo
05-10-2013, 12:41 AM
http://armenpress.am/static/news/b/2013/05/718286.jpg

YEREVAN, MAY 9: The Minister of Defense of the Republic of Armenia Seyran Ohanyan does not exclude that in case of necessity preventive measures will be implemented against the Azerbaijani threats. As reported by Armenpress, answering the question - are preventive actions possible in case of getting information about the forthcoming attack – the Minister of Defense of Armenia did not exclude anything.

You post things like that in the "News Articles" section of the forum.:)

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?31-News-Articles

Arsen_
05-20-2013, 09:10 PM
Russia will strengthen military base in Armenia with "Tornado" systems and operational-tactical missile system "Iskander-M". Complex Iskander-M can be applied to high-precision strikes on targets at a distance of 500 km, and due to the specific trajectory of a missile, it is not possible to any existing or proposed missile defense systems to prevent that kind of missile.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YZPin2Nny0