View Full Version : The new male contraceptive jab that is nearly 100% effective
Vulpix
05-04-2009, 11:32 AM
Finally:
The new male contraceptive jab that is nearly 100% effective (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1177110/The-new-male-contraceptive-jab-nearly-100-effective.html)
A male contraceptive injection has proved highly effective in a large study of more than 1,000 men.
Just over one in 100 men conceived a child over a period of two years, which is considered a very good result.
No contraceptive is 100 per cent effective and each year between 1 per cent and 2 per cent of women on the Pill get pregnant.
The testosterone injection was tested on a group of healthy fertile Chinese men aged 20 to 45. Each had fathered at least one child in the previous two years.
Female partners were aged between 18 and 38 and had no reproductive problems.
Dr Yi-Qun Gu, from the National Research for Family Planning in Beijing, said: 'For couples who cannot, or prefer not to use only female-oriented contraception, options have been limited to vasectomy, condom and withdrawal.
'Our study shows a male hormonal contraceptive regimen may be a potential, novel and workable alternative.'
The men were given monthly 500 milligram injections of testosterone undecanoate (TU) in tea seed oil over a period of two and a half years.
No serious side effects were reported and the men's fertility returned to normal in all but two participants after the treatment was stopped.
Testosterone injections lead to a reduction in levels of two regulatory brain chemicals, follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinising hormone (LH).
This in turn disrupts sperm production, but the effect is reversible.
Sperm counts return to normal four to six months after the injections are halted.
Results from the trial, the largest effectiveness study of a testosterone-based male contraceptive ever undertaken, will appear in the June issue of the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.
Dr Gu said: 'Despite the present encouraging results, the long-term safety of this hormonal male contraceptive regimen requires more extensive testing with a focus on cardiovascular, prostate and behavioural safety.'
Vargtand
05-04-2009, 11:40 AM
No thank you.. not in my body...
No serious side effects were reported and the men's fertility returned to normal in all but two participants after the treatment was stopped.
:icon_eek:
Sperm counts return to normal four to six months after the injections are halted.
:( That's a very long time, too long. :(
HawkR
05-04-2009, 11:46 AM
Yeah, come on fellas! Let's drop condoms and the pill, and go over to some shit which fucks with our dicks... Why no use steroids?:p
No, if one don't want to have kids and neither use condoms and such, then use your right hand, or left!
Vargtand
05-04-2009, 11:46 AM
:icon_eek:
:( That's a very long time, too long. :(
Why the sad face? No man in his right mind would ever use this...
HawkR
05-04-2009, 11:55 AM
Why the sad face? No man in his right mind would ever use this...
You sure? There has to be some reason for Loki's sad faces:p
Vargtand
05-04-2009, 11:56 AM
You sure? There has to be some reason for Loki's sad faces:p
I said no man in his right mind :P:rolleyes::p:D
HawkR
05-04-2009, 12:00 PM
Haha, indeed:p
Brynhild
05-04-2009, 12:02 PM
Hmm. Some side effects from female contraception include weight gain, carpel tunnel syndrome, bad IUDS caused sterility.
No fellas, not a problem. It's perfectly fine while women play Russian roulette with their bodies.:icon_rolleyes::mad:
Vargtand
05-04-2009, 12:04 PM
Hmm. some side effects from female contraception include weight gain, carpel tunnel syndrome, bad IUDS caused sterility.
No fellas, not a problem. It's perfectly fine while women play Russian roulette with their bodies.:icon_rolleyes::mad:
I'm glad we have come to this mutual understanding. :)
I said no man in his right mind :P:rolleyes::p:D
Well, some men naturally have no need for it anyway. This is something only fertile men need to worry about. :coffee:
HawkR
05-04-2009, 12:08 PM
Well, some men naturally have no need for it anyway. This is something only fertile men need to worry about. :coffee:
Glbrhapgwpj.... I think I lost my tounge. At least if I understood this correctly.
Nevertheless, in case of what Brynhild noted for us, about the pill having backfires, let's just use some rubber, or jump of in the turn, but: "If the road is staight, can I then, jump of in the turn?":p (Yeah, really bad translation:p)
Vargtand
05-04-2009, 12:08 PM
Well, some men naturally have no need for it anyway. This is something only fertile men need to worry about. :coffee:
Well, Knowing my self I would be driven to insanity and depression with such a death sentence :P so my argument is still valid :P
Well, Knowing my self I would be driven to insanity and depression with such a death sentence :P so my argument is still valid :P
Geatish "logic" sucks. :D Or is it sense of humour? :p Only slightly better than the Norwegian one above you. :D
Vargtand
05-04-2009, 12:12 PM
Geatish "logic" sucks. :D Or is it sense of humour? :p Only slightly better than the Norwegian one above you. :D
They often are one and the same, it's a big joke both of them :P
Tabiti
05-04-2009, 12:14 PM
No, thanks, I prefer condoms! At least none of the partners is injected with poisons to destroy the normal body functions...
HawkR
05-04-2009, 12:16 PM
They often are one and the same, it's a big joke both of them :P
I allways knew there were some connection!:D:p
Vargtand
05-04-2009, 12:20 PM
No, thanks, I prefer condoms! At least none of the partners is injected with poisons to destroy the normal body functions...
Eww that is as how we say it here. Åker ni skridskor på grus också och äter kola med papper?
loosely translated, do you ice-skate on gravel and eat candy with it's wrapping paper still on?
:P
Thorum
05-04-2009, 01:26 PM
If proven safe, I would use it. Sounds convenient. With 2 young kids now and debating a 3rd in the next 2 or 3 years though, I would be hesitant to use such a new procedure at this moment. We use the female injection for my wife. She gets it every 3 months and has no unpleasant side effects...
Think of the potential of using this injection in Africa, India and China where they are multiplying like flies....
Tabiti
05-04-2009, 01:35 PM
Think of the potential of using this injection in Africa, India and China where they are multiplying like flies....
I don't think some of them are enough intelligent to understand what contraception is and to do it voluntary...
If I already had children, I would think of such methods (as long as I'm sure they don't lead to cancer in older age). But for now I prefer not to do anything with my body, since I may decide to have children someday. My partner shares the same opinion.
And it's not that worse with condoms! Better to do it such way, instead of having some unpleasant surprises, few minutes of slightly bigger pleasure can make you.
Thorum
05-04-2009, 01:42 PM
If I already had children, I would think of such methods (as long as I'm sure they don't lead to cancer in older age). But for now I prefer not to do anything with my body, since I may decide to have children someday. My partner shares the same opinion.
And it's not that worse with condoms! Better to do it such way, instead of having some unpleasant surprises, few minutes of slightly bigger pleasure can make you.
I can understand being cautious. In my experience though (and my wife's), we have never had any trouble using birth control injections and pills for her and we have beautiful kids. We trust our doctor's recommendations and have been satisfied with our decisions.
Condoms are fine also, neither my wife or I like them though....:rolleyes:
Beorn
05-04-2009, 01:50 PM
Well, some men naturally have no need for it anyway. This is something only fertile men need to worry about. :coffee:
I'm surprised at the fertility of my sperm. It was only a matter of a day or two after Ceallach coming off of the pill that she would fall pregnant to me.
As Thorum noted, as a person who wishes to have more children in the foreseeable future, I would not warrant the need to use this male contraceptive. It looks to have too many possible downsides to it and regardless of its astounding test results, still has the minute chance of conceiving with a partner.
I can see the benefits for a mass injection of overpopulated areas such as Africa and Asia, but to utilise this injection in Europe would be asking for trouble.
Sexually transmitted diseases are already on the increase in Europe without a valid scientific reason to not sheathe your manhood before having sex.
Mind you, I wouldn't mind instigating a law for mass inoculation of newly arrived immigrants to Britain. :D
Thorum
05-04-2009, 01:55 PM
I'm surprised at the fertility of my sperm. It was only a matter of a day or two after Ceallach coming off of the pill that she would fall pregnant to me.
As Thorum noted, as a person who wishes to have more children in the foreseeable future, I would not warrant the need to use this male contraceptive. It looks to have too many possible downsides to it and regardless of its astounding test results, still has the minute chance of conceiving with a partner.
I can see the benefits for a mass injection of overpopulated areas such as Africa and Asia, but to utilise this injection in Europe would be asking for trouble.
Sexually transmitted diseases are already on the increase in Europe without a valid scientific reason to not sheathe your manhood before having sex.
Mind you, I wouldn't mind instigating a law for mass inoculation of newly arrived immigrants to Britain. :D
Well, Wat we do agree on a few things!! :p :D
Our kids are 14 months apart in age due to my high sperm count and my wife's fertility too. We just thought there was now way she could get pregnant so quickly after giving birth and we had started the pill...we were (happily) wrong.
I like your idea of the mass innoculation of immigrants... :thumb001:
As Thorum noted, as a person who wishes to have more children in the foreseeable future, I would not warrant the need to use this male contraceptive. It looks to have too many possible downsides to it and regardless of its astounding test results, still has the minute chance of conceiving with a partner.
Oh I would definitely not touch those contraceptives. Not even if they paid me handsomely. The whole purpose of life is being fertile and to procreate. If you start messing with that, you risk throwing away the sole purpose of your existence. No thanks, over my dead body.
Thorum
05-04-2009, 03:32 PM
Oh I would definitely not touch those contraceptives. Not even if they paid me handsomely. The whole purpose of life is being fertile and to procreate. If you start messing with that, you risk throwing away the sole purpose of your existence. No thanks, over my dead body.
Loki, you gonna have 12 children? :mmmm:
Loki, you gonna have 12 children? :mmmm:
No I doubt it, too old already. :(
I'm not talking about contraceptives in general, only the one in discussion.
Thorum
05-04-2009, 03:44 PM
No I doubt it, too old already. :(
I'm not talking about contraceptives in general, only the one in discussion.
:thumb001:
Vulpix
05-04-2009, 05:04 PM
Did you know that the pill can cause loss of libido, in rare cases *permanently*?
It might happen to the girl of your dreams :wink...
This is just ONE example to get your attention ;) to the known adverse effects of the pill, including loss of fertility. [Not to mention there are categories of women for whom the pill is not advisable (ie some medical conditions and smoking women), and even those who cannot be on the pill at all.]
Let's add that too many men turn into whining babies if you ask to use a condom :icon_ask:...
A question for the men that state they aren't willing to even consider "playing with their fertility": AT THE SAME TIME do you expect your partner to mess up with her body?
If yes, is it because of:
(1) cognitive dissonance or:
(2) you don't really give a shit?
Or else explain.
Tabiti
05-04-2009, 05:06 PM
Let's add that too many men turn into whining babies if you ask to use a condom :icon_ask:...
In such cases I can say only:
"No pain no gain. Sorry" :D
Barreldriver
05-04-2009, 06:27 PM
I misread this statement: Just over one in 100 men conceived a child over a period of two years, which is considered a very good result.
I thought it said 100 men conceived a child over a period of two years. Was scared for a moment, and misinterpreted conceived as "giving birth". lol
Aemma
05-04-2009, 07:07 PM
I dunno boys...vasectomies work pretty well. You might like that instead. ;) :D
jerney
05-04-2009, 07:09 PM
Hmm. Some side effects from female contraception include weight gain, carpel tunnel syndrome, bad IUDS caused sterility.
I've never had any of those problems. The pill doesn't make you gain weight either. It's people stuffing their faces that makes them gain weight.
Aemma
05-04-2009, 07:22 PM
I've never had any of those problems. The pill doesn't make you gain weight either. It's people stuffing their faces that makes them gain weight.
No jerney...sorry you're wrong there. The pill can most certainly make a woman gain weight since it directly affects the body's natural hormonal levels. From water gain to what you are alluding to, increase in appetite which leads to weight gain. Let's not nitpick as to what we mean when another woman says that the pill may make one gain weight, shall we? I think we're all smart enough to know that one might increase one's caloric intake which causes increased weight gain. BUT, a woman's metabolism plays a significant role in potential weight gain as well.
Cheers jerney!...Aemma
Tabiti
05-04-2009, 07:28 PM
My body is created to produce one ovum a month, so let it be!
Gaining weight is one of the slightest negative effects of hormonal pills. They certainly destroy body storage of some vitamins (mostly B group) and minerals, that cause other problems. If you feel OK for now doesn't mean it would be such for future.
jerney
05-04-2009, 07:30 PM
No jerney...sorry you're wrong there. The pill can most certainly make a woman gain weight since it directly affects the body's natural hormonal levels. From water gain to what you are alluding to, increase in appetite which leads to weight gain. Let's not nitpick as to what we mean when another woman says that the pill may make one gain weight, shall we? I think we're all smart enough to know that one might increase one's caloric intake which causes increased weight gain. BUT, a woman's metabolism plays a significant role in potential weight gain as well.
Well, I don't agree. Perhaps it can cause weight gain indirectly, but just because it increases your appetite does not mean you have to eat more. That is an active choice one makes.
Aemma
05-04-2009, 07:36 PM
Well, I don't agree. Perhaps it can cause weight gain indirectly, but just because it increases your appetite does not mean you have to eat more. That is an active choice one makes.
My point in all of this is that the use of synthetic hormones affects all women differently. I'm glad that it works for you. Great for you! But let's not as women start making unpleasant statements about women who do have a difficult time with weight gain , for whatever reason, while they are on the pill shall we? It really isn't necessary.
Barreldriver
05-04-2009, 07:56 PM
^Holy shit.
Vargtand
05-04-2009, 08:36 PM
I dunno boys...vasectomies work pretty well. You might like that instead. ;) :D
Nope, no thanks, I hold much of my manhood to the fact that I walk around with a loaded gun...
Vulpix
05-05-2009, 11:22 AM
Did you know that the pill can cause loss of libido, in rare cases *permanently*?
It might happen to the girl of your dreams :wink...
This is just ONE example to get your attention ;) to the known adverse effects of the pill, including loss of fertility. [Not to mention there are categories of women for whom the pill is not advisable (ie some medical conditions and smoking women), and even those who cannot be on the pill at all.]
Let's add that too many men turn into whining babies if you ask to use a condom :icon_ask:...
A question for the men that state they aren't willing to even consider "playing with their fertility": AT THE SAME TIME do you expect your partner to mess up with her body?
If yes, is it because of:
(1) cognitive dissonance or:
(2) you don't really give a shit?
Or else explain.
BUMP ;)
Brynhild
05-05-2009, 11:37 AM
I've never had any of those problems. The pill doesn't make you gain weight either. It's people stuffing their faces that makes them gain weight.
I disagree with you. I was 17 when I first went on the pill. I ate well and exercised regularly. Nothing changed, except my hormones. Granted, not all pills will but this particular one did. I was 50 kilos and jumped by about 5. One must also bear in mind the improvements of contraception since the 80s.
Well, I don't agree. Perhaps it can cause weight gain indirectly, but just because it increases your appetite does not mean you have to eat more. That is an active choice one makes.
No perhaps about it in my case. You've jumped to conclusions without any subtstance to a person's history whatsoever. Just because you weren't affected doesn't mean that nobody else can be!
Sol Invictus
05-05-2009, 02:32 PM
I dunno boys...vasectomies work pretty well. You might like that instead. ;) :D
Over my dead body! ^_^
I would be willing to try any kind of contraceptive as long as it doesn't involve scisors or latex, personally. I refuse to wear a condom and I can't stand the smell of them so this doesn't sound like too bad an idea.
anonymaus
05-05-2009, 03:18 PM
I dunno boys...vasectomies work pretty well. You might like that instead. ;) :D
I suddenly find myself wishing for a new button on each post...
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1701&d=1241536694
Tolleson
05-05-2009, 03:19 PM
I would be willing to try any kind of contraceptive as long as it doesn't involve scisors or latex, personally.
It's the puff of smoke that makes you say ":wtfare doing to my 'boys', Doc. That better not be your wife's curling iron on my sack". :D
Sol Invictus
05-05-2009, 03:29 PM
It's the puff of smoke that makes you say ":wtfare doing to my 'boys', Doc. That better not be your wife's curling iron on my sack". :D
You'd have to put me alseep - permenantly - to get me to go through that!
Smoke? Curling Iron? Not while I'm still vertical and can resist! Do you know the kind of guilt I felt at even getting my cat fixed? I could hardly look myself in the mirror.
jerney
05-05-2009, 03:59 PM
No perhaps about it in my case. You've jumped to conclusions without any subtstance to a person's history whatsoever. Just because you weren't affected doesn't mean that nobody else can be!
I never said no one else could be, but the majority of the time this is the case. And besides, if I had to choose I'd rather be fat than pregnant.
Skandi
05-05-2009, 07:10 PM
I never said no one else could be, but the majority of the time this is the case. And besides, if I had to choose I'd rather be fat than pregnant.
On of the known side affects is weight gain I believe that the pill slows the metabolism. I agree with being fat better than being pregnant though.
Personally I can't take the pill I'm one of those that it doesn't work for. I have been advised not to use and hormone related contraception, which leaves you with those damn annoying things or the copper coil, however a good friend of mine was made sterile by a coil.
I do find it funny how men refuse to do anything about it but expect their partner to, it is amazing how fast they want you to get off condoms and onto the pill, entirely for their benefit and never thinking about any risks you may have to take.
Vulpix
05-05-2009, 08:38 PM
On of the known side affects is weight gain I believe that the pill slows the metabolism. I agree with being fat better than being pregnant though.
Personally I can't take the pill I'm one of those that it doesn't work for. I have been advised not to use and hormone related contraception, which leaves you with those damn annoying things or the copper coil, however a good friend of mine was made sterile by a coil.
I do find it funny how men refuse to do anything about it but expect their partner to, it is amazing how fast they want you to get of condoms and onto the pill, entirely for their benefit and never thinking about any risks you may have to take.
Exactly. I'll rebump my post now, as we still haven't got a response from the guys here.
Vulpix
05-05-2009, 08:40 PM
Did you know that the pill can cause loss of libido, in rare cases *permanently*?
It might happen to the girl of your dreams :wink...
This is just ONE example to get your attention ;) to the known adverse effects of the pill, including loss of fertility. [Not to mention there are categories of women for whom the pill is not advisable (ie some medical conditions and smoking women), and even those who cannot be on the pill at all.]
Let's add that too many men turn into whining babies if you ask to use a condom :icon_ask:...
A question for the men that state they aren't willing to even consider "playing with their fertility": AT THE SAME TIME do you expect your partner to mess up with her body?
If yes, is it because of:
(1) cognitive dissonance or:
(2) you don't really give a shit?
Or else explain.
How many more times do I have to bump this to get a response from some of the men here :confused:?
Sol Invictus
05-05-2009, 08:44 PM
How many more times do I have to bump this to get a response from some of the men here :confused:?
I've already said that I would do it. I don't think it's a big deal because you have a good point; why should women be expected to take a pill etc when a man refuses to himself.
Brynhild
05-05-2009, 08:47 PM
While we're on the subject of gutless, that dreaded issue of the vasectomy came up after my third child was born. I ripped into my ex because he baulked at the idea - oh the poor boy would have sore balls afterwards! Dear oh dear! :eek:
I booked in (as if I haven't spent enough time in hospitals, I must love the place!), and only then did he look into the matter. We were both on the waiting list for elective surgery, and I got through first.
Men are simply cowards - they can't tolerate pain! :p
Skandi
05-05-2009, 08:51 PM
How many more times do I have to bump this to get a response from some of the men here :confused:?
Forever because it cannot be defended logically, only illogically with the heart.
Sol Invictus
05-05-2009, 08:52 PM
I would get a vascectomy only if I couldn't walk around (knowing they are doing barrel rolls down there attached to nothing) and only when I've passed my prime and start turning ino an old man and couldn't possibly take care of any children. I need my balls right now and so does 90% of the men here and I intend on using them. so no thanks! ^_^
Beorn
05-05-2009, 09:00 PM
Did you know that the pill can cause loss of libido, in rare cases *permanently*?
Ah...so that's what it is....Nah! IN all seriousness, the pill Ceallach was taking for a while was great for her complexion but was only ever a short term solution as it can cause cancer if used over a longer period.
Let's add that too many men turn into whining babies if you ask to use a condomIt might well be that I have a latex fetish or I simply couldn't care less as long as I get to put it in sometime that evening, but I actually don't mind wearing a condom.
It's easy to use, clean, and cheap if you know how to do the machine in; plus, you don't have to have the other half in the bathroom chatting away at you when you just want silence.
(2) you don't really give a shit?Pretty much that one.
I know that sounds bad, but if the woman is happy enough to take the pill and all the other contraceptives when I'm perfectly willing to wear a condom during sex, then bully for her and her body.
Vulpix
05-05-2009, 09:01 PM
Forever because it cannot be defended logically, only illogically with the heart.
Yeah guess so, but at the very least they could admit they don't care?
Vargtand
05-05-2009, 10:48 PM
Yeah guess so, but at the very least they could admit they don't care?
Hey! I very much care.. Just not favourably to this.
Vulpix
05-05-2009, 11:02 PM
Hey! I very much care.. Just not favourably to this.
That is understandable. My point is that I saw in this thread some men state that they wouldn't take this jab because they don't want to mess with their fertility etc, which leads me to wonder why they are seemingly not even remotely concerned about their partners :confused:!
Vargtand
05-05-2009, 11:26 PM
That is understandable. My point is that I saw in this thread some men state that they wouldn't take this jab because they don't want to mess with their fertility etc, which leads me to wonder why they are seemingly not even remotely concerned about their partners :confused:!
Turn the question around, why do women seem so eager for men to go through this so them self’s do not need to risk their own health.. I think you will see the answer there...
It is a matter of, no I don't have to or I can refuse and will be damn stubborn about it until I have it my way :P
As it is no one is particularly willing to put them self’s in harms way and to be honest when it boils down to it, I prioritise it in this order, My manhood, my woman, my self. :P
Rainraven
05-05-2009, 11:33 PM
Condoms can be fun... :p
http://www.beauty2b.co.uk/images/Durex-Ribbed.jpg
anonymaus
05-05-2009, 11:36 PM
Condoms can be fun... :p
http://www.beauty2b.co.uk/images/Durex-Ribbed.jpg
ahem
Is it getting warm in here? :taped-shut:
Sol Invictus
05-06-2009, 12:21 AM
That's hot. But how can you people stand the smell of them.
Osweo
05-06-2009, 12:41 AM
I do find it funny how men refuse to do anything about it but expect their partner to, it is amazing how fast they want you to get off condoms and onto the pill, entirely for their benefit and never thinking about any risks you may have to take.
MEN?!? A lot of mad generalisations here! My ex didn't like condoms, and we just used to um... pull out. :o
Only an American girlfriend ever used the pill, and she was on it even when she was single. Nutcase.
How many more times do I have to bump this to get a response from some of the men here :confused:?
What are you asking again? I thought you were just talking to one particular feller. :shrug:
Beorn
05-06-2009, 02:06 AM
MEN?!? A lot of mad generalisations here! My ex didn't like condoms, and we just used to um... pull out. :o
There isn't a herd of wild horses.....
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Rainraven
05-06-2009, 03:12 AM
That's hot. But how can you people stand the smell of them.
And the taste.. Blergh
Oswiu, I'm shocked :eek: pulling out.. tut tut!
And yes Wat, the ribbed condoms 'do things' down there :p I have had very limited but enjoyable experiences with them ;):embarrassed
Vulpix
05-06-2009, 06:37 AM
Turn the question around, why do women seem so eager for men to go through this so them self’s do not need to risk their own health.. I think you will see the answer there...
It is a matter of, no I don't have to or I can refuse and will be damn stubborn about it until I have it my way :P
As it is no one is particularly willing to put them self’s in harms way and to be honest when it boils down to it, I prioritise it in this order, My manhood, my woman, my self. :P
Of course you don't have to and can refuse.
The fact is, as it is nowadays a lot of women "go through this and risk their own health". Now that there this new development for a male contraceptive, which will be available only about 5 years from now, some of the men here rush to say they are not even willing to consider, and the reasons they provide when they do specify why, appear to be oblivious/unconcerned of that simple fact.
Vulpix
05-06-2009, 06:42 AM
That's hot. But how can you people stand the smell of them.
They have invented the flavored ones :p:swl...
I would be willing to consider this after I have had a child or two of my own. I would never want to risk my fertility in any way.
Vulpix
05-06-2009, 06:43 AM
What are you asking again? I thought you were just talking to one particular feller. :shrug:
Nope, anyone can offer their input :).
anonymaus
05-06-2009, 06:51 AM
Of course you don't have to and can refuse.
The fact is, as it is nowadays a lot of women "go through this and risk their own health". Now that there this new development for a male contraceptive, which will be available only about 5 years from now, some of the men here rush to say they are not even willing to consider, and the reasons they provide when they do specify why, fail to acknowledge that simple fact (women "go through this and risk their own health").
Our junk, and its proper function, is very important to our massive and fragile egos which are in turn very important to our general functioning in life.
Even sex-for-fun is largely rooted in the desire to implant, spill, or otherwise expel our seed. Removing that is, I think, a much bigger deal for men to handle--we have evolved to almost never lose the desire to procreate (and the efficacy of our little swimmers into decrepit age is but one proof of this).
Speaking personally: if I had any such procedure I would walk around making this face all day
Vulpix
05-06-2009, 06:55 AM
Our junk, and its proper function, is very important to our massive and fragile egos which are in turn very important to our general functioning in life.
Even sex-for-fun is largely rooted in the desire to implant, spill, or otherwise expel our seed. Removing that is, I think, a much bigger deal for men to handle--we have evolved to almost never lose the desire to procreate (and the efficacy of our little swimmers into decrepit age is but one proof of this).
Speaking personally: if I had any such procedure I would walk around making this face all day
Thank you for the honesty :)! I suspected as much.
Sol Invictus
05-06-2009, 07:11 AM
They have invented the flavored ones :p:swl...
I have never actually used them. Do they get rid of the smell at least? :D
Osweo
05-06-2009, 05:40 PM
Lugy, where is your nose? Or how long? ;) They do smell funny, but only when you're right up to them!
Sol Invictus
05-06-2009, 05:47 PM
Lugy, where is your nose? Or how long? ;) They do smell funny, but only when you're right up to them!
I have a pretty long nose but I don't get right up to them, lol. I don't know if it's the lubricant or what but I gag whenever I smell them, and having a mate who's gagging while in coitus doesn't make for good mood and romance. :p
Osweo
05-06-2009, 05:55 PM
having a mate who's gagging while in coitus doesn't make for good mood and romance. :p
What?!?!?!?1
You mean... er...
They're not supposed to do that?!? :eek3::eek2::twitch:
Sol Invictus
05-06-2009, 05:58 PM
What?!?!?!?1
You mean... er...
They're not supposed to do that?!? :eek3::eek2::twitch:
Well I'd prefer she not gag either but I was talking about me. You silly, silly man. ^_^
Skandi
05-06-2009, 06:07 PM
I have never actually used them. Do they get rid of the smell at least? :D
No they just cover it with terrible synthetic scents that are possibly worse. But you can get the non latex versions, they do not smell the same at all.
Vulpix
05-06-2009, 08:00 PM
Do they get rid of the smell at least? :D
It depends on where your nose is :p:D.
anonymaus
05-06-2009, 08:10 PM
It depends on where your nose is :p:D.
Oh dear. :eek:
Sol Invictus
05-06-2009, 08:31 PM
Oh dear. :eek:
Gods beneath us, get your mind out of the gutter! ^_^
Gooding
05-07-2009, 01:49 AM
MEN?!? A lot of mad generalisations here! My ex didn't like condoms, and we just used to um... pull out. :o
Only an American girlfriend ever used the pill, and she was on it even when she was single. Nutcase.
What are you asking again? I thought you were just talking to one particular feller. :shrug:
Yeah, I did the pullout method on the mother of my daughter..That's tricky, especially when you pull out on some woman who swears she's barren..LOL.
Inese
05-07-2009, 01:00 PM
I can not use the pill because i am allergic against them!! :rolleyes2: Microgynon and valette , my doctor tried some on me but it was never okay. The boy must use a condom or nothing happens in the bed ---- lol!! :P In emergancy case i can use the " pill after" but i never tried and i hope i never need it. :wink And i tried diaphraghma but i was feeling it and and got stomach pain and headache!! :coffee:
More boys should use contraceptive injection if it works good!! It is a advantage for both sides i think.
Thorum
05-08-2009, 05:02 PM
More boys should use contraceptive injection if it works good!! It is a advantage for both sides i think.
My wife uses Depo Provera (http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Health_Services/Health_Education/sexual_health/ssc/depo.htm) injections. Once every 3 months. She likes it, no side effects and no periods. You do have to see the doctor every 3 months for the injection though.
Inese
05-09-2009, 11:10 AM
My wife uses Depo Provera (http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Health_Services/Health_Education/sexual_health/ssc/depo.htm) injections. Once every 3 months. She likes it, no side effects and no periods. You do have to see the doctor every 3 months for the injection though.
I have not heard from that it is new!??? It reads a little dangerous and painful with injection in the muscle!! :rolleyes2: I fear injection of all kind you know?? And the change is big it stops the menstruation also. O.o It has a very strong influence on the body i think and i am allergic to some hormons and that is why i cant take the pill. It is nothing for me and maybe i am to young to use it. But i will ask my doctor about next time if she knows it and what she think about it.
Eldritch
05-09-2009, 11:59 AM
I'm all for a reliable male birth control method -- there are way too many women who accidentally forget to take their pill, or accidentally poke holes in their guys's condoms with a needle, and then voilá! The stork is on its way, and they're suddenly not quite as pro-choice as thay've made out.
But I seriously do not like the sound of this one. Sounds too much like the early female pills with the awful side effects.
Rainraven
05-09-2009, 02:57 PM
My wife uses Depo Provera (http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Health_Services/Health_Education/sexual_health/ssc/depo.htm) injections. Once every 3 months. She likes it, no side effects and no periods. You do have to see the doctor every 3 months for the injection though.
Yeah my dctor told be I could just have a period every 3 months on the pill. Doctor didn't know what he was talking abought.
Sally
07-21-2009, 06:48 PM
:eek:
I'm in the minority here, but I'm strongly against artificial birth control for both sexes.
However, I am also pro-natural family planning and realise that there are can be very serious reasons to avoid pregnancy at certain times.
Phlegethon
07-21-2009, 08:09 PM
As a Catholic I have no problem with the Catechism in this regard, which in fact isn't anti-sex - quite the opposite, actually - but anti recklessly whoring around.
I have to admit though that in my case this is just a theoretical, not a practical issue.
Lubbers should be used for other forms of entertainment exclusively: as waterbombs or something like this:
http://www.taz.de/uploads/hp_taz_img/xl/kondom.jpg
Angantyr
07-22-2009, 12:38 AM
If proven safe, I would use it. Sounds convenient. With 2 young kids now and debating a 3rd in the next 2 or 3 years though, I would be hesitant to use such a new procedure at this moment. We use the female injection for my wife. She gets it every 3 months and has no unpleasant side effects...
Think of the potential of using this injection in Africa, India and China where they are multiplying like flies....
Perhaps, it should be mandatorily included with all the vaccinations western countries are doling out.
Angantyr
07-22-2009, 12:47 AM
As for me, I will not use contraception. Should the Gods reward me with a dozen daughters with red hair, I shall thank them profusely.
Skandi
10-06-2009, 10:58 AM
New contraceptive trial jab for men
Scientists have appealed for couples to come forward to take part in a trial of a new contraceptive jab for men.
A team from Edinburgh University is involved in the research into the injection.
The scientists claim it can give much better protection against pregnancy than condoms.
And it is hoped the work could help pave the way for such a form of contraception to become more widely available.
Researchers at the University of Edinburgh are hoping to recruit 20 couples from the south east of Scotland to take part in the study - which is being run by the World Health Organisation.
The injections contain the hormones testosterone and progesterone, and are given to the men every two months.
Sperm counts fall rapidly, and when these are low enough couples taking part in the trial would use the jabs as their method of contraception for a year.
Scientists also stress that the effects of the injections are fully reversible.
Professor Richard Anderson of Edinburgh University's reproductive and development sciences division said: "If this trial is successful I imagine there would be interest in looking at marketing the injection as a male contraceptive.
"Even if not all men would be keen on an injection, there would definitely be a market to make such a treatment available." source (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20091004/thl-new-contraceptive-trial-jab-for-men-d831572.html)
My BF wishes he lived a little closer.
Bridie
10-06-2009, 12:45 PM
Oh dear... synthetic hormones... pity they're not even manufactured as exact replicas of natural hormones. I'm sure anyone can imagine, considering this, the havoc they wreak on the endocrine system (which, in turn, effects almost every other body system).
Testosterone injections lead to a reduction in levels of two regulatory brain chemicals, follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinising hormone (LH).Increasing the levels of substances that mimic hormones in the body leads to a reduction in nearly all hormones found in the body. Without going into it too much, certain binding chemicals are released into the bloodstream when the body detects increased hormone levels (any of the hormones - including chemicals that mimic hormones)... these chemicals act to reduce the amount of the overactive hormone, but are indiscriminatory, and so bind to and reduce the levels of just about all hormones in the body. Hormones that regulate sleep, metabolism, sex drive etc etc. This leads to an overall depression of the body systems.
I've never had any of those problems. The pill doesn't make you gain weight either. It's people stuffing their faces that makes them gain weight.
If the pill didn't cause you to gain weight, it would be because you are ordinarily oestrogen deficient. (Not an uncommon thing.) So your body doesn't respond by showing signs of oestogen dominance, such as weight gain, water retention, loss of libido, irritability, sore breasts etc etc.
Nevertheless, all other negative side effects would still apply to you. (Too many side effects to list here.)
My wife uses Depo Provera injections. Once every 3 months. She likes it, no side effects and no periods. You do have to see the doctor every 3 months for the injection though.There are just as many side effects with this method of hormone disruption as there are with other forms of "the pill".
Liffrea
10-06-2009, 03:25 PM
I don’t really agree with women taking the pill there isn’t a chance in hell I would take injections to prevent a normal bodily function.
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