View Full Version : Non-European cultures that you respect.
Sikeliot
05-27-2012, 12:01 AM
Believing in European preservation, in my opinion, does not mean one cannot appreciate and respect other cultures. So what non-European cultures do you admire and/or respect and why?
For me, my choices are;
1) Moroccan. Moorish architecture, both found within Morocco and outside of it, is beautiful.
2) Japanese, for various reasons; they have a strong work ethic, Japanese food is my favorite of all Asian food, and I find their ancient culture interesting.
3) Lebanese, for a number of reasons.
4) Cape Verdean, for obvious reasons.
5) Mexican.
How about you?
Incal
05-27-2012, 01:08 AM
Japanese all the way, they might be a little crazy but their culture is still amazing.
Mexican (do not confuse with Chicano).
Christian MENAs (mostly for their courage and their ability/cleverness to survive all these centuries in such a hostile environment).
Argentines (tho I like them precisely because they are the most European LatAms).
Sikh culture, ruled by a great sense of discipline and honor.
Sikeliot
05-27-2012, 01:10 AM
My list was not exhaustive.. I consider Argentina essentially a European culture or I'd have listed it too. Egypt is another that makes my list.
Incal
05-27-2012, 05:13 AM
My list was not exhaustive.. I consider Argentina essentially a European culture or I'd have listed it too.
Same here, that's why I wasn't sure.
Sikeliot
05-27-2012, 05:14 AM
Same here, that's why I wasn't sure.
Argentina counts as European to me, as does Uruguay. At least culturally, as I am no expert on the actual racial composition of either country.
GeistFaust
05-27-2012, 05:17 AM
Japanese, Koreans, Northeastern/Eastern Chinese, Northern Indians, Christian Levantines/Middle-Easterners, and maybe Iranians.
Sikeliot
05-27-2012, 05:18 AM
Northeastern/Eastern Chinese
I'm just curious about this one. What is special about northeastern Chinese as opposed to say, south Chinese?
Coriolanus
05-27-2012, 08:50 PM
Ethiopia. One of the oldest Christian nation in the world, the Ethiopian people have endured much political strife including Islamic invasions, and most recently a communist coup, resisted European imperialism, various forces have been intent on undermining their religion, yet their faith has remained devout and unadulterated. Ethiopia made the natural transition from Judaism to Christianity, the Ark of the Covenant and a piece of the True Cross is said to reside there, and great Christian kings such as Menelik II and Haile Selassie I have affirmed their faith in modern times of uncertainty.
I have the utmost admiration for the Oriental Orthodox in Eritrea and other parts of Africa, the Copts in Egypt, as well as all Christians living in Palestine and the middle east too.
MagnaLaurentia
05-29-2012, 08:16 AM
I have respect for Japaneses and Koreans.
I have a love-hate relationship with north-eastern/eastern Chineses (Han people), Levantines (Lebaneses, Syrians and Palestinians) and Iranians.
Other non-European cultures do not really attract my attention or I hate them.
The case of Latin America is complicated to explain. I don't know if some South American cultures can be attached to European culture or ethnic. I like the following countries: Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Uruguay, Venezuela and Cuba. I could say they have my respect in some way.
Alberta1
05-29-2012, 09:51 PM
Inuits of Canada and Greenland. Their way and how they survived in such harsh climatic conditions. They also have their own script that are unique to them.
I respect the courage of the Amerindian tribes especially those in the SouthWest like the Apache who resisted the American settlement and were known to be great warriors. As well the various Uto-Aztecan tribes like the Tongva whose culture is very interesting since they were a very primtive tribe in what is now california. The Chumash of California they had very interesting stuff that were advanced but yet primtive in it's nature. The Haida and the Na-Dene of Canada nice art work and very hospital people.
Mexicans nice culture, history and tradition and decent from one of the most important civilization in the Americas the Aztec and Mayans, their pictograph writings were amazing. As well the Mayans who had prefect mathametics and the calendar is more accurate than the Western one.
Arabians form primtive nomads in the Desert, to empire builders. However the most admirable Arabian tribes are the Nabateans and Midianites who left beautiful works of art in NorthWestern Saudi and Jordan, and they had very advanced system of mathemetics, science and on a whole cultured peoples. They were also known to be the best navigators and even helped the Portuguese to reach India. They preserved much of the work of the Greco-Romans which was being destroyed and translated it into Arabic and then into Latin.
Gigolo
05-29-2012, 09:58 PM
China, Korea, Japan
India and Iran
East Africans
Indigenous Australians
Northern American Amerind
gold_fenix
05-29-2012, 10:02 PM
East asian countries
Gigolo
05-29-2012, 10:03 PM
China, Korea, Japan
India and Iran
East Africans
Indigenous Australians
Lowest are the Mestizo and Zambos Border Jumpers:D
arcticwolf
05-29-2012, 10:04 PM
Japanese.
Supreme American
05-29-2012, 10:13 PM
Any culture that has a strong identity and as interested in self-preservation has my respect. Even sub-cultures like the American Nation of Islam at least have enough common sense to preserve their peoplehood.
I don't have much respect for mindless idiots who have no concept of the tens of thousands of years of evolution that produced their people and throw it away like a candy wrapper or disposable razor.
Supreme American
05-29-2012, 10:15 PM
Lowest are the Mestizo and Zambos Border Jumpers:D
Anyone that externalizes the solution to their problems has no respect from me.
Vasconcelos
05-29-2012, 10:15 PM
Japanese, Koreans and Chinese (not making any distinction between Chinese here) are an obvious choice for everyone of us, despite all that does on on this world, they still manage to keep their culture very typical and embrace their old traditions.
I also very much like (north) American Indians, Iranians (despite their religion and their wacko leader).
Finally I admire.....ze j00s! Seriously, they have been slaugthered and prosecuted for millenia, and still manage to be one of the most influential peoples on Earth. You may not like them, but you have to admire their resilience and presistence. If they were Europeans we'd have no doubt in their value (ignoring their goals).
Supreme American
05-29-2012, 10:18 PM
Japanese, Koreans and Chinese (not making any distinction between Chinese here) are an obvious choice for everyone of us, despite all that does on on this world, they still manage to keep their culture very typical and embrace their old traditions.
Except when they move to places like the US and Canada where suddenly white flesh becomes cocaine and they lose their marbles.
Hassad
05-29-2012, 10:18 PM
Norwegians. Pallantides taught me they are slant eyes.
GeistFaust
05-29-2012, 10:21 PM
I'm just curious about this one. What is special about northeastern Chinese as opposed to say, south Chinese?
Well a lot of the great civilizations, accomplishments, and more racially progressive Chinese people existed further in the East and North.
I think some people in places like Vietnam, Thailand, Southern China, ect share some similarities with Northeastern Asian people, but they can hardly be compared with them on a similar level.
They are more like second tier Mongoloids, although I suppose that is better then being in the third tier of Mongoloids, which encompasses more Western and Southern Mongoloid types and groups.
Alex Delarge
05-29-2012, 10:55 PM
After seeing Dances with Wolves, native americans :p
Japan has some interesting things but i've seen a lot of weird stuff from there too.
Pallantides
05-29-2012, 11:00 PM
Norwegians. Pallantides taught me they are slant eyes.
Not all Norwegians have slanty eyes but some do, that's true for most North European populations not just Norwegians. I like to think that we are not very "round eye" though.
Hassad
05-29-2012, 11:04 PM
Not all Norwegians have slanty eyes but some do, that's true for most North European populations not just Norwegians. I like to think that we are not very "round eye" though.
Evon looks very Neolithic compared to you for example.
Il Principe
05-29-2012, 11:15 PM
Japanese, Koreans, Northeastern Chinese, the old Mesoamerican cultures, and possibly Northern India.
Also, I agree with Vasconcelos about the J00z. They're a very resilient people, more sympathetic than anything else birthed out of MENA, and show admirable determination. Even if you don't like their actions, you have to admire their sheer persistence.
Pallantides
05-29-2012, 11:19 PM
Evon looks very Neolithic compared to you for example.
I guess he does, but he is my 4th cousin.:D
Sokol
05-30-2012, 01:56 AM
Japanese and Korean
Sikeliot
05-30-2012, 01:59 AM
About Jews - I admire that they are in general a very hard-working, determined, and successful people (many Nobel Prize winners have been Jewish, a lot of the best doctors are Jewish etc).
GeistFaust
05-30-2012, 02:00 AM
Yes, I admire many things about the Jews, and their will to survive is something I don't think many could match whatsoever.
Grizzly
05-30-2012, 02:52 AM
Japan/Korea
Cuba
Vietnam
MagnaLaurentia
05-30-2012, 02:58 AM
About Jews - I admire that they are in general a very hard-working, determined, and successful people (many Nobel Prize winners have been Jewish, a lot of the best doctors are Jewish etc).
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My respect? Not...
Robert
05-30-2012, 05:28 AM
I like ancient Egypt/Sumeria all those ancient hot spots for culture. Feudal Japan was very cool.
Drawing-live
05-30-2012, 05:37 AM
Japanese. Just now in england in a piano concert they invited a japanese family to play the rarest sound in the world. With metal chopsticks that this is the only family un the world that knows the secrete how to make them.
This family has being making these special chopsticks and special japanese swords for 53 generations. And the secrete is only kept inside this family.
If thats not a strong culture, i dont know what is.
Gigolo
05-30-2012, 05:44 AM
Indians are great Innovaters.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/iitdelhi-professor-tames-hydrogen-for-engines/251465-3.html
Bangalore (City in SouthIndia)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/BangaloreMontage.png
rhiannon
05-30-2012, 05:47 AM
The Japanese
The Jews
Parts of South America
Ancient Persia
Ancient Egypt
Aspects of Indian and Tibetan culture
Amarantine
05-30-2012, 08:43 AM
China. Kung Fu Tze, Lao Tze, Sun Tzu etc...
http://www.ezoterikus.hu/kepek/filozofia/konf1.jpg
Talvi
05-30-2012, 09:06 AM
Japanese. Just now in england in a piano concert they invited a japanese family to play the rarest sound in the world. With metal chopsticks that this is the only family un the world that knows the secrete how to make them.
This family has being making these special chopsticks and special japanese swords for 53 generations. And the secrete is only kept inside this family.
If thats not a strong culture, i dont know what is.
??? Metal chopsticks originate from Korea and are rarely used in Japan.
KidMulat
05-31-2012, 02:10 AM
I have a love and draw towards trading cultures aswell outpost societies, marron settlements and very small isolated communities mostly islands with emphasis on regions of female economic and social empowerment:
Cape Verde
colonial Louisiana (Extending to Penesecola)
Goree
St. Croix
Miskito Coast
Madeira
Colonial Canary Islands
Lapita culture that later spawned into the Polynesia (Austronesian/Papuan peoples)
Guache of Canary Islands
Trista de Cunha
Flinder Island
Cristiano viejo
05-31-2012, 02:22 AM
About Jews - I admire that they are in general a very hard-working, determined, and successful people (many Nobel Prize winners have been Jewish, a lot of the best doctors are Jewish etc).
My God... very hard working? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: where, in banks and internacional agencies?? :rolleyes:
Nobel Prize is politicized to maximum.
What it can expect about a prize that gave the Nobel Peace Prize to a murderer as the jewish precisely Henry Kissinger... or Obama just after sending american troops to Afganistan? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
KidMulat
05-31-2012, 02:28 AM
The Obama thing let me know the Nobel is not what it used to be but I believe that change is a recent development.
Most of the non-white cultures that i like tend to be dead or assimilated into a greater culture with european influences.
i really do enjoy the mesoamerican cultures a good bit. They tend to be how do i say err... overlooked or underestimated by people of a racialist/racial perspective.
I mean the Mayans especially were a very interesting people with advanced mathematics and astronomy. I don't want to sound like a douche or something,but the Mayans were the second civilization to invent the concept of zero(in mathematics...everyone knows the concept of nothing)out of only 3 civilizations to do so. Europeans only adopted the concept 300-400 years after the mayans did so and they borrowed the concept of zero from the Arabs.
Mesoamerican cultures accomplished a good bit when you realize that they were in their own isolated bubble from the rest of the world.
I admire the Aztec culture in the sense that i am fascinated by Aztec weaponry and tactics and how they faired against the Spanish(here is a hint: up until the battle of Otumba the Spanish had surprisingly difficult battles with the natives to the point where they were defeated numerous times and unlike what many people will tell you Aztec weaponry was comparable to European weaponry in effectiveness if not had certain advantages like cutting ability.)I also am fascinated by the Aztec capital Tenochtitlan which was basically the Venice of the new world and was one of the largest cities on earth at the time.
Aztec engineering was also advanced. Their building of Tenochtitlan(a city built on a large lake)is proof enough of that,but what i find interesting was their aqueducts and "dike of Nezahualcoyotl".
All of this was tragically offset by cultural practices of cannibalism and ritual sacrifice.
I have much respect for modern mestizo mexicans in mexico and i can get along fine with recent mexican immigrants,but i can't stand chicanos who have absorbed certain segments of american culture and who have a victim complex.
I also like the japanese and Indian people.
I basically can like and respect every group but blacks.
Contra Mundum
05-31-2012, 06:43 AM
I'm fascinated by native American cultures. I'm not one of those loons that think the Indians lived in Eden and shared the land, and lived in peace and harmony, but they are an interesting people.
Cristiano viejo
05-31-2012, 06:48 PM
I admire the Aztec culture in the sense that i am fascinated by Aztec weaponry and tactics and how they faired against the Spanish(here is a hint: up until the battle of Otumba the Spanish had surprisingly difficult battles with the natives to the point where they were defeated numerous times
Numerous times it is reduced to just once :thumb001:, the called Noche Triste, in which most of the spaniards there died was because drowned crossing Lake Texcoco by the weight of the gold transported.
and unlike what many people will tell you Aztec weaponry was comparable to European weaponry in effectiveness if not had certain advantages like cutting ability.)
Aztec weapons was reduced to arrows, batons and maces.
And also they not wanted to kill their enemies, but offer them in sacrifice to their gods :rolleyes:.
I also am fascinated by the Aztec capital Tenochtitlan which was basically the Venice of the new world and was one of the largest cities on earth at the time.
Aztec engineering was also advanced. Their building of Tenochtitlan(a city built on a large lake)is proof enough of that,but what i find interesting was their aqueducts and "dike of Nezahualcoyotl".
This part is correct.
Hassad
05-31-2012, 07:19 PM
Aztec weapons was reduced to arrows, batons and maces.
And also they not wanted to kill their enemies, but offer them in sacrifice to their gods :rolleyes:.
Actually, they had slings:
http://kris22.edublogs.org/files/2011/01/a-11t8y1h.jpeg
And Obsidians:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OGgkQyDNOds/TOQmXGu_-EI/AAAAAAAAAIc/8JRDU5_gimQ/s1600/macuahuitl-macahuitl-aztec-sword_1037154.jpg
And other stuff.
http://people.ucalgary.ca/~walde/graphics/atlatl.gif
The nomad Amerindians resisted more than the Aztecs because often the whole tribe knew how to fight, unlike Aztecs who lived a more urban life style.
Numerous times it is reduced to just once :thumb001:, the called Noche Triste, in which most of the spaniards there died was because drowned crossing Lake Texcoco by the weight of the gold transported.
Yeah many Spanish died by being drowned,but many Spanish were shot with arrows and then died. The Aztecs would strafe the Spaniards with armored Canoes. You also fail to mention the ambush tactics that got the Spaniards into that situation in the first place. The Aztecs purposefully lead the Spanish into a trap where they let the area flood with water.
Tactically it was a Spanish blunder.
And while Noche Triste was the biggest defeat for the Spaniards they had numerous smaller defeats along with their native allies(who dont tend to be mentioned in western school books even though thy made up the bulk of the forces at the time).
Aztec weapons was reduced to arrows, batons and maces.
You know shit about Aztec warfare if you think that it was just 'batons,maces,and arrows'.
If i were you i might read a book called 'Aztec warfare'-By Ross Hassig. Specifically chapter 6 "Arms and Armor" and chapter 16 titled "The Spanish conquest".
http://books.google.com/books?id=7M1o9g8MARgC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_atb#v=onepage&q&f=false
One advantage that Aztec weaponry had over Spanish weaponry was the ability to cut much,much,better than Spanish steel. Obsidian is the sharpest material on the planet and according to Conquistadors horses heads could be cut off in one single powerful strike. According to them it happened numerous times and they even stated numerous times that the "Indians blades cut much better than our own".
Gunpowder weaponry like rifles were practically useless during the conflict because of long reloading times and accuracy. Not to mention the mexican climate that kept everything damp and musty.
Although the Cannon did beautifully in the conflict!
The one thing the Spanish had in a decisive advantage over the Aztecs was armor,but even then the armor could only do so much. The Aztec spears even pierced one Conquistadors armor(although this probably did not happen often).
Regardless most of the Spanish deaths came from blows to the neck,head,and arms. Places where there were gaps in the armor to where their sharp(but more fragile)blades and arrows could get a clean hit. This resulted in loss of limbs and bleeding out from cut arteries.
The Aztec blade for example was not really a sword at all,but more like a axe/saw. The Warriors would swing with the weapon and if they hit and saw blood would pull back quickly like a saw and off would go an arm or head(if it did not go in the original swing).
And also they not wanted to kill their enemies, but offer them in sacrifice to their gods :rolleyes:.
This is somewhat true. While in large engagements they would kill when necessary,culturally Aztec society favored capture because that was how you rose through the military ranks.
Sacrifice outside of the flower wars was just a afternote to do with the captured people. The real reason they wanted to capture people is that they just wanted to be promoted and gain prestige.
Superior American
05-31-2012, 07:44 PM
Japanese, before the occupation they were strong & even now they remain strong and so far have been able to compete with Americans in major markets and arguably have as many worldwide famous corporations as America does. For a small island, their will & contributions have been remarkable.
derLowe
05-31-2012, 10:00 PM
Japaneses Chinese Koreans have my vote.
Pallantides
06-01-2012, 12:50 AM
I'm fascinated by native American cultures. I'm not one of those loons that think the Indians lived in Eden and shared the land, and lived in peace and harmony, but they are an interesting people.
Same here.
Also I'm fascinated by:
http://i.imgur.com/XOT1G.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Samurai_on_horseback0.jpg/400px-Samurai_on_horseback0.jpg
Xenomorph
06-01-2012, 03:38 AM
I admire different cultures for different reasons. All fo the reasons for me respecting Middle Eastern, Asian, and Mesoamerican cultures has already been stated. I actually have a great deal of respect for Bantu traditional religion as it was almost completely monotheistic without being preachy or dogmatic.
Beethoven
06-06-2012, 06:21 PM
Japan,Vietnam,Singa,Mexico,Peru,Chile,Canada (Alberta,Quebec,Ontario)
americans from Bush/Clinton-hating states i.e. Oregon/Washigton/DC/ + 5-6 another states in USA
Believing in European preservation, in my opinion, does not mean one cannot appreciate and respect other cultures. So what non-European cultures do you admire and/or respect and why?
I agree with you: I have nothing against other cultures, I'm used to respect them all (if they respect mine, of course). I think that the destruction of world's cultures - all included - is one the major faults of globalist capitalism, along with the pollution of natural environments and the reduction of biodiversity. Well, back in topic :) I like east asian culture in general. I love chinese classical philosophy and japanese ethic. They're strong cultures and very skilful nations. India has strong cultural roots, too, but it seems somehow weaker than East Asia.
MST3K
06-11-2012, 11:17 PM
I have always enjoyed Japanese culture. The honorific words in the language are very rich, also the way in which the houses and food are prepared is perfect. A good friend of mine is Maori and his culture and traditions rock!!
EuroAmericanProud
06-12-2012, 03:01 AM
The Japanese. They are more like us than any other.
Talvi
06-15-2012, 12:50 PM
The Japanese. They are more like us than any other.
Spend a day with a couple of days Japanese people and they will drive you nuts! Their mentality is nothing like "ours" and oftentimes they have a very hard time fitting in here because of that.
Heres some people I like:
http://www.alaskannature.com/inuit2.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PXz1s-ssVEE/Szq9W_mkbkI/AAAAAAAAGZU/JKIyS-Tfrug/s400/ainuman1.jpg
http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/42/9f/atayal,photography,tattoo-429f0906b9289907fdd7cce8ea9a1f34_i.jpg
Osprey
06-15-2012, 12:52 PM
Spend a day with a couple of days Japanese people and they will drive you nuts! Their mentality is nothing like "ours" and oftentimes they have a very hard time fitting in here because of that.
Atleast they are less prone to violence and other shit.
Talvi
06-15-2012, 12:59 PM
Atleast they are less prone to violence and other shit.
Crime is also on the rise in youngsters and especially violent crime because of their built up frustrations. Stabbing teachers, sexual harrassment, rape... not to mention their rising poor mental health. Suicides, hikikomori.... etc
sturmwalkure
06-16-2012, 07:43 PM
Iran (pre-revolution) and under the Axis friendly Shah Pahlavi
Japan (the Aryans of the East)
There are others I do admire to lesser do degrees.
Gigolo
06-16-2012, 07:49 PM
Eventhough a wish was to visit Tokyo i really dont admire the japanese too much. East-Asians are just odd.
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