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Vulpix
06-09-2009, 10:57 AM
The irony of antifascists being the fascists they really are. Nothing new here really, but you get the picture.



Sweden's extreme left ups violent attacks (http://www.thelocal.se/19966/20090609/)


Violent threats to democracy from groups on the far left escalated in the run-up to the European Parliament elections, according to the Swedish Security Police (Säpo (http://www.thelocal.se/tag/s%E4po)).

The far right Sweden Democrats (http://www.thelocal.se/tag/sweden_democrats) were one of the main targets of the so-called "autonomous" movement. But parties in Sweden's coalition government also found themselves in the firing line.

"We noted around twenty incidents of violence against people or property. The Sweden Democrats were not the only ones affected; the Liberal and Moderate parties were also hit," said Johan Olsson, chief analyst for Säpo's constitutional protection division.

The chief perpetrators came from groups on the extreme left such as Anti-Fascist Action (http://www.thelocal.se/tag/anti-fascist_action) (AFA) and Revolutionära Fronten.

"It's part of what they call their anti-fascist agenda. They don't believe that parties they consider critical of immigrants or opposed to workers' rights should be permitted to operate undisturbed," Olsson told news agency TT.
One of the more serious incidents recorded in the period leading up to the EU parliament elections was the assault on Saturday night of Sweden Democrat party secretary Martin Kinnunen and his girlfriend.

The pair were set upon by an estimated ten assailants, according to the public prosecutor. The attack occurred at Gullmarsplan in south Stockholm while the couple were making their way home from a visit to a restaurant.

Both were taken to hospital after a security guard intervened to halt the attack. Kinnunen's girlfriend suffered concussion and is believed to have been struck across the head with knuckle dusters.

Two young women, 20 and 25, were remanded in custody on Tuesday in connection with the attack.

The prosecutor in the case believes at least five more people may be arrested for involvement in the brutal assault.

Sweden Democrat politicians have also come under attack at public meetings and have had their property destroyed to the extent that the party eventually stopped advertising when it was planning to hold rallies in town squares.

finironcross
06-09-2009, 11:33 AM
The whole story about 'right-wingers' being violent is a total myth and a sham. It is always these leftist turds who incite and initiate violence. They are violent, savage and uneducated - all qualities which they have turned against their enemies.

Beorn
06-09-2009, 12:00 PM
Churchill once said: "In the future fascists will be called anti-fascists".

I think he may well have been right. It isn't the BNP going around demanding and threatening members of the public with violence and even death if they allow the BNP to stage their events at their halls and clubs. It isn't the BNP who gather en masse to stop legitimate politicians from entering the houses of politics. It certainly isn't the BNP shouting and stamping feets like little girls at every "injustice" the democratic process delivers.

Cato
06-09-2009, 12:29 PM
These pinko ne'er-do-wells are living on cloud nine. Just by looking at the names of the groups, Anti-Fascist Action and Revolutionara Fronten, conjures up in my mind groups like FARC, Japanese Red Army and Shining Path- all communist scum, in other words.

Piolitically-motivated violence, with communist agitators, is what led Hitler to create the brownshirts. Maybe it's time the nationalists in Europe start hiring/organizing security detachments to protect them from communist thugs.

finironcross
06-09-2009, 12:38 PM
That's a most excellent point, about the SA, that it was created in response to communist gangs who interrupted any political meetings they did not approve of. Now, the official parties in Germany (and in every other European country, the situation was the same mind you) had the states police protection - but the smaller, powerless parties had no such courtesy extended to them. They had to defend themselves. Paramilitary police forces sprung up like mushrooms in every single European country, because the Bolsheviks were everywhere and extremely active in revolutionary terms. The Soviet Union was literally shoveling resources into the hands of these thuggish brutes with their intention being the complete conquest of Europe.

Thank the Creator for the NSDAP. For all your faults, you saved us from the communist scum, at least for a moment.

Cato
06-09-2009, 12:42 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if some sort of modern SA or Praetorian guard crops up somewhere as a response to these leftist goons.

Groenewolf
06-09-2009, 01:47 PM
I am not suprised. With whatever these antifa-hooligans are involved there is bound to be violence. And of course they will be armend and with greater numbers. Those people only want one thing and one thing alone commit acts of violence. Whatever retoric they use is only to make themselves feel good about it.

Besides they hardly the top of cream considering inteligence. Keeping it to Sweden, I would not be suprised if they considerd anyone with a Swedish flag button on their backpack a nazi. Based on nothing else but that.

Smaland
06-09-2009, 01:48 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if some sort of modern SA or Praetorian guard crops up somewhere as a response to these leftist goons.

If such a group were to arise in America, The Establishment would label it as a terrorist group, even if it were not so. Group members would be sent to prison for that reason, whether they had committed crimes or not.

Brännvin
06-09-2009, 08:49 PM
What is the surprise? A couple of few months ago this same group antifa tried to assassinate an important member of ND, in fact such incident is having more impact national than the previous..

Afa tar på sig mordförsök
Läs mer... (http://www.politikerbloggen.se/2009/02/10/13610/)

Cato
06-10-2009, 12:07 AM
If such a group were to arise in America, The Establishment would label it as a terrorist group, even if it were not so. Group members would be sent to prison for that reason, whether they had committed crimes or not.

I don't doubt this at all; it'd have to be a very, very large, well-armed group to stave off immediate obliteration by Caesar's legions. However, I often wonder what'd happen if, say, the military itself were to rise up and put an end to the corruption of modern "democracy" ala Heinlan's Starship Troopers.

I don't think that the federal government is composed entirely of crooks and cheats, and I sometimes wonder if a time will come when the cogs in the machine will come off of their own accord.

lei.talk
06-15-2009, 04:37 PM
I often wonder what'd happen if, say,
the military itself were to rise up
and put an end to the corruption of modern "democracy"
ala Heinlein's Starship Troopers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers).
ten years after being introduced to that concept
in one of my favorite magazines
http://i43.tinypic.com/24lrd35.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magazine_of_Fantasy_%26_Science_Fiction)
an excellent historian
explicated the practical details
and limitations of military take-over.

http://i43.tinypic.com/1zeziq8.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C3%89tat:_A_Practical_Handbook)

it was a dis-enchanting read.

Cato
06-15-2009, 08:28 PM
The book was a strong critique against modern democracy and an equally strong attempt to present something akin to Plato's mythical republic- a state run by soldiery, but a soldiery open to all rather than to a caste of genetic elites. That's true democracy; you reap what you sow. If you sow nothing, all you'll get are the most basic creaturely comforts minus the lack to vote and participate directly in government, which is what I believe Heinlan called the supreme power in Starship Troopers- a power so complete that not even a king's authority could equal it.

RoyBatty
06-15-2009, 09:15 PM
Democracy (in it's original guise) didn't provide the plebians with the power to vote. Presumably the Ancients understood that the general public weren't qualified to make momentous decisions (choosing leaders).

Would anybody feel comfortable with letting an illiterate do maintenance work on a nuclear power plant? I wouldn't.

Therefore, why would it be desireable to let the general public make decisions which carry potentially far-reaching consequences because they didn't understand what they were getting themselves into?

Ulex
07-16-2009, 10:08 AM
...Maybe it's time the nationalists in Europe start hiring/organizing security detachments to protect them from communist thugs.
It is being done all over Western Europe already, some places more than others. The "troopers" are unarmed though, and they should stay that way. They are not to be compared with the militias of the US.

During the 1980's several leftist groups were established with an official mission statement: They wanted to fight racism by the means of violence. Back then the European nationalists were not very good organized, and it took a long time for them to accept the fact that their governments did not protect their civil rights, when they were threatened and assaulted by the ANTIFA-groups. Finally, in the late 90's the nationalists started to defend themselves against the leftist terror, and a new kind of persons took over.

Not all nationalists were naive in the 80's, when the war was declared against them. A few of them immediately started to look for protection and security, and a natural (and wrong) choice was to gain it from the skinhead culture. Although the skins had adopted a somewhat violent way of expression, they proved to be of very little value, when it came to a fight. They were not to be trusted to even show up in times of danger, and if they did, they usually was drunk or stoned and came in small numbers. It was quite frustrating to watch.

Today, we see a much more disciplined group joining the ranks of the nationalists. They are young men with a need for action, which is ofcause a good thing if it comes to trouble. The best thing is that the quality of these new "troopers" is much higher than that of the leftists. Although the nationalists are always low in numbers, they always win the confrontations incited by the leftists. A quick search on Youtube will show you tons of videos of reds fleeing in panic, chased down by a few nationalists. I have yet to see one, just ONE, video showing the scenario the other way around. They are non-existent, exept from a few ones, where we witness a lonely nationalist or two being ambushed when they least expect it.

We don't fight that way. We will never fight that way. We fight with honour and dignity, the nobleness of our cause dictates us to do that.