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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 06:45 PM
Maarulal (Highlanders)

The Caucasian Avars are one of several ethnic groups living in the Russian republic of Dagestan where they are the predominant group. The Avars reside in a region known as the North Caucasus, the northern section of a larger area between the Black and Caspian Seas.

Alongside the other ethnic groups in the North Caucasus region, the Caucasian Avars live in ancient villages located approximately 2,000 m above sea level and the Avar language spoken by the Caucasian Avars people belongs to the Northeast Caucasian language family (also known as Nakh–Dagestanian).

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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 06:46 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 06:48 PM
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Hurrem sultana
06-22-2012, 06:48 PM
they look balkan,the last guy i would bet on was from Balkan :D

SKYNET
06-22-2012, 06:49 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 06:50 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 06:52 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 06:53 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 06:55 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 06:57 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 06:59 PM
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Hurrem sultana
06-22-2012, 07:01 PM
i hate the male hair syle that seems to be modern in N.Caucasus :D

SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:02 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:04 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:05 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:06 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:07 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:09 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:10 PM
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Rastko
06-22-2012, 07:10 PM
They seem pretty robust people.

I can see certain overlaps.

Onur
06-22-2012, 07:12 PM
These people are either all male or all female. They never hang out together in there? How strong is the islamic traditions among these people?

Btw i noticed that some pictures here are taken in Turkey.

SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:12 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:14 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:15 PM
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http://s012.radikal.ru/i320/1105/67/0aee0a42eb6b.jpg

SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:18 PM
These people are either all male or all female. They never hang out together in there? How strong is the islamic traditions among these people?

the law of the mountains plays an important role



Btw i noticed that some pictures here are taken in Turkey.


:confused:

SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:19 PM
http://s011.radikal.ru/i315/1105/6f/c1ae8fef0f79.jpg
http://i001.radikal.ru/1105/a4/d2ba2fda21a9.jpg
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:20 PM
http://i012.radikal.ru/1107/fd/4cdeed5cc6dc.jpg
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:22 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:23 PM
http://i009.radikal.ru/1111/cb/e12db7bac9bc.jpg
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:24 PM
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SKYNET
06-22-2012, 07:25 PM
http://s019.radikal.ru/i616/1204/b5/83505af946c3.jpg
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http://s019.radikal.ru/i639/1206/e1/61342e4ee52a.jpg

SKYNET
06-22-2012, 08:00 PM
the language


The literary language is based on the болмацӀ (bolmacʼ) — bo = "army" or "country", and macʼ = "language" — the common language used between speakers of different dialects and languages. The bolmacʼ in turn was mainly derived from the dialect of Khunzakh, the capital and cultural centre of the Avar region, with some influence from the southern dialects. Nowadays the literary language is influencing the dialects, levelling out their differences.

The most famous figure of modern Avar literature is Rasul Gamzatov (died November 3, 2003), the People's Poet of Dagestan. Translations of his works into Russian have gained him a wide audience all over the former Soviet Union.


Dialects


There are two main dialect groups: the northern, which includes Khunzakh, Kazbek, Gunib, Gumbet and others; and the southern, which includes Andalal, Gidatl', Antsukh, Charoda, Tlyarata, Cumada, Cunta and others.




Alfabet


А а Б б В в Г г Гъ гъ Гь гь ГI гI Д д
/a/ /b/ /w/ /ɡ/ /ʁ/ /h/ /ʕ/ /d/
Е е Ё ё Ж ж З з И и Й й К к Къ къ
/e/, /je/ /jo/ /ʒ/ /z/ /i/ /j/ /k/ /q͡χːʼ/
Кь кь КI кI КIкI кIкI Кк кк Л л М м Н н О о
/t͡ɬ’/ /k’/ /kːʼ/ /kː/ /l/ /m/ /n/ /o/
П п Р р С с Т т ТI тI У у Ф ф Х х
/p/ /r/ /s/ /t/ /t’/ /u/ /f/ /χ/
Хх хх Хъ хъ Хь хь ХI хI Ц ц Цц цц ЦI цI ЦIцI цIцI
/q͡χː/ /x/ /ħ/ /t͡s/ /t͡s’/
Ч ч ЧI чI ЧIчI чIчI Ш ш Щ щ Ъ ъ Ы ы Ь ь
/t͡ʃ/ /t͡ʃ’/ /ʃ/ /ʃː/ /ʔ/ /ɨ/
Э э Ю ю Я я
/e/ /ju/ /ja/



the language is horrible :blink: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMdQGRkn-M0

Hurrem sultana
06-22-2012, 08:07 PM
well i have heard worse languages(chinese,finnish,arabic :D)

Nabatea1
06-22-2012, 08:16 PM
http://s009.radikal.ru/i307/1108/7b/a63a117dd62f.jpg


This girl is almost the doppleganger of my fiance who is Adyghe

Han Cholo
01-03-2013, 05:34 AM
Interesting looks. I've noticed they're the only North Caucasians who don't use the cherkesska.

Are they Vainakhs? I moved the thread to anthropology.

Artek
01-04-2013, 08:56 AM
http://s009.radikal.ru/i307/1108/7b/a63a117dd62f.jpg
OMG, she is amazing:85563001::85563001:

Illancha Az
01-04-2013, 09:08 AM
Interesting looks. I've noticed they're the only North Caucasians who don't use the cherkesska.

Are they Vainakhs? I moved the thread to anthropology.
People of the North Caucasus are very similar, but no they're not Waynakh. If you're interested in knowing the exact make up of the Waynakhs read this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vainakh).
They do wear the Cherkesska. I don't know why WesternBoy didn't post a picture of the most famous Avar, Imam Shamil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_Shamil).

http://istanbulalti.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/imam-shamil.jpg

His sons.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/files/fp_uploaded_images/110218_1_1.JPG

All wearing Cherkesskas.

Han Cholo
01-04-2013, 09:18 AM
People of the North Caucasus are very similar, but no they're not Waynakh. If you're interested in knowing the exact make up of the Waynakhs read this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vainakh).
They do wear the Cherkesska. I don't know why WesternBoy didn't post a picture of the most famous Avar, Imam Shamil.

http://istanbulalti.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/imam-shamil.jpg

His sons.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SZVUz_UAFc8/Tnq0-NX4iYI/AAAAAAAAAgM/jZzGvwFVT4o/s1600/images.jpg
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/files/fp_uploaded_images/110218_1_1.JPG

All wearing Cherkesskas.

I see. What's that animal fur dress some of them have? I notice a few of them have Karakuls. But is this fur dress some sort of more ancient clothing?
http://s002.radikal.ru/i197/1101/eb/2d0d789a614a.jpg



Some Georgians use different clothing as well:
http://www.avonbiehl.com/avb-lab/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/20120720_georgia_5D_21day_IMG_0645_FB1-290x290.jpg

But I imagine it's a bit different with South Caucasians.

Illancha Az
01-04-2013, 09:27 AM
I see. What's that animal fur dress some of them have? I notice a few of them have Karakuls. But is this fur dress some sort of more ancient clothing?
http://s002.radikal.ru/i197/1101/eb/2d0d789a614a.jpg

In Chechen it's called a wert. I didn't know what it is called elsewhere but it turns out it is confusingly named the burka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burka_%28Caucasus%29).
Basically it's a large full body sleeveless covering made of treated felt wool. Worn to keep warm obviously, but it was used for multiple purposes such as keeping the horse warm while riding (when on horseback it drapes over the back of the horse), as a blanket and even building tents and shelters.

RussiaPrussia
01-04-2013, 09:34 AM
http://s019.radikal.ru/i616/1204/b5/83505af946c3.jpg
http://s45.radikal.ru/i107/1204/65/f180e5b566a7.jpg
http://s019.radikal.ru/i626/1204/a6/7e51a26f9d9d.jpg
http://s019.radikal.ru/i643/1204/df/bbff95ef2c3c.jpg
http://s019.radikal.ru/i607/1204/63/e4ba009295dd.jpg
http://s019.radikal.ru/i605/1204/c4/82154486f08b.jpg
http://s019.radikal.ru/i622/1204/7b/934f5b9add63.jpg
http://s009.radikal.ru/i309/1205/bf/dd3b015f143e.jpg
http://s019.radikal.ru/i618/1205/e6/421b197d0afe.jpg
http://s019.radikal.ru/i602/1205/a5/da42be378321.jpg
http://s019.radikal.ru/i639/1206/e1/61342e4ee52a.jpg

look how russian they look like, many russian blood

ˇołnir
01-04-2013, 09:34 AM
It's interesting how they got name Avar. There were also Avars in pannonian basin; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Avars

Altho it is theorised they were Turkic i think it's still fascinating these caucasians have same name. :)

Illancha Az
01-04-2013, 09:36 AM
look how russian they look like, many russian blood
Cool! If you're being serious, I guess you're the only one who sees it.

Illancha Az
01-04-2013, 09:43 AM
It's interesting how they got name Avar. There were also Avars in pannonian basin; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Avars

Altho it is theorised they were Turkic i think it's still fascinating these caucasians have same name. :)
You have to consider that Caucasians (particulary North Caucasians) have remained isolated in the mountains for thousands of years. I think there being similar names is a coincidence.

Illancha Az
01-04-2013, 09:55 AM
Also I doubt that they call themselves Avar, I think it is the name Russia gave them.
For example in Chechnya we call ourselves Noxchi (pronounced Nokhchi) not Chechen as the rest of the world knows us. Chechens is the name that Russia gave us.

Sky earth
01-04-2013, 11:38 AM
Why are they named after a Turkic tribe?

sevruk
01-04-2013, 12:29 PM
Also I doubt that they call themselves Avar, I think it is the name Russia gave them.
For example in Chechnya we call ourselves Noxchi (pronounced Nokhchi) not Chechen as the rest of the world knows us. Chechens is the name that Russia gave us.
Lol, this name gave the neighboring Caucasian tribes, not Russian

Illancha Az
01-04-2013, 12:30 PM
Why are they named after a Turkic tribe?
Because Russia is ignorant about their history.


Lol, this name gave the neighboring Caucasian tribes, not Russian
No. Simple example: in Chechnya we call them Seeli not Avar.

RussiaPrussia
01-04-2013, 01:14 PM
Also I doubt that they call themselves Avar, I think it is the name Russia gave them.
For example in Chechnya we call ourselves Noxchi (pronounced Nokhchi) not Chechen as the rest of the world knows us. Chechens is the name that Russia gave us.

so what swedes gave also our name

Illancha Az
01-04-2013, 01:29 PM
so what swedes gave also our name
So nothing. I'm just explaining that it is unlikely that Eurasian and Caucasians Avars are related.

Blackout
01-04-2013, 07:42 PM
Beautiful scenery! Im ethnically a mountain / valley person myself! They seem like interesting people... :)

Demhat
01-04-2013, 08:17 PM
In Chechen it's called a wert. I didn't know what it is called elsewhere but it turns out it is confusingly named the burka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burka_%28Caucasus%29).
Basically it's a large full body sleeveless covering made of treated felt wool. Worn to keep warm obviously, but it was used for multiple purposes such as keeping the horse warm while riding (when on horseback it drapes over the back of the horse), as a blanket and even building tents and shelters.


Its a shepherd/horseman clothing worn by pastors. Kurds do wear it also.

memobekes
01-04-2013, 08:25 PM
Many of them are round-headed like the Ossetians and less robust than the Chechens.

I can discern many elements like Mtebids/Kaukasids, Arrmenids (Asia Minor), Iranids (Caspian), Alpinoids, Eastmediterranids/Pontids (Mediterranean/Balkan), Norids, Nordids and Dinarids.

Overall, they look extremely N Caucasian.

But they could also fit into the Balkans, Anatolia, the S Caucasus and western Iran.

SKYNET
01-04-2013, 09:54 PM
all about the North Caucasian race you can find here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northcaucasian_race

interes
04-04-2014, 08:49 AM
Avars are not lighter people. Avars are very darkers.

Kalimtari
04-04-2014, 12:42 PM
good looking people, they can fit everywhere around Black Sea

interes
04-04-2014, 12:44 PM
good looking people, they can fit everywhere around Black Sea

No they like only North Caucasians

Kalimtari
04-04-2014, 12:55 PM
No they like only North Caucasians

you meant they look like? They can pass in the Balkans without even trying, too similar. Ukraine as well.

SKYNET
04-04-2014, 01:31 PM
Avars are not lighter people. Avars are very darkers.




please take off your sunglasses and look at the pictures properly

Kiyant
04-04-2014, 01:41 PM
please take off your sunglasses and look at the pictures properly

Are you an Avar? (or anyother caucasian ethnicy)

SKYNET
04-04-2014, 01:56 PM
Are you an Avar? (or anyother caucasian ethnicy)



Nope, I'm not, I only met a few of them, those Avars in Ukraine, Poland and Germany and also I've read and learned a lot of the nature and geography of Caucus mountains and history about the Caucasian indigenous tribes, as well. I know that I have Caucasian blood, it's something that makes me proud sometimes.
The similarity you can also hear from member Nabatea1, his ancestors came from that area

Kiyant
04-04-2014, 01:56 PM
Nope, I'm not, I only met a few of them, those Avars in Ukraine, Poland and Germany and also I've read and learned a lot of the nature and geography of Caucus mountains and history about the Caucasian indigenous tribes, as well. I know that I have Caucasian blood, it's something that makes me proud sometimes.
The similarity you can also hear from member Nabatea1, his ancestors came from that area

Nice since im also from the caucasus (Georgia to be exact)

RussiaPrussia
04-04-2014, 01:59 PM
highlanders heh?

Kiyant
04-04-2014, 02:01 PM
highlanders heh?

Pretty much all Caucasian are Highlanders (for example im also from there

interes
04-04-2014, 04:45 PM
please take off your sunglasses and look at the pictures properly

If Avars are lighters Gurians look like finnis .

SKYNET
04-04-2014, 04:51 PM
If Avars are lighters Gurians look like finnis .



https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1390/81/1390816108519.png

interes
04-04-2014, 05:00 PM
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1390/81/1390816108519.png

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?115446-Gurians

interes
04-04-2014, 05:05 PM
Nice since im also from the caucasus (Georgia to be exact)

Qartuli ici? :)))

SKYNET
04-04-2014, 05:09 PM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?115446-Gurians




you are still cherry-picking from the different sources on the internet, my dear Georgian. Could you please elaborate why are you so always obsessed with gingers or white-skinned individuals?

interes
04-04-2014, 05:14 PM
you are still cherry-picking from the different sources on the internet, my dear Georgian. Could you please elaborate why are you so always obsessed with gingers or white-skinned individuals?

No why see tis page https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002008548855&ref=ts&fref=ts

SKYNET
04-04-2014, 05:18 PM
No why see tis page https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002008548855&ref=ts&fref=ts



I'm waiting for your answer to my question

interes
04-04-2014, 05:22 PM
I'm waiting for your answer to my question

I like gingers

aherne
04-05-2014, 08:24 PM
Interesting. They are certainly lighter than Romanians. Look much like Nakh (Chechen/Ingush), with whom they are related (but with lesser Aryan influence)...However, as Chechens, they do include a minority of Near Eastern types that stick out like a sore thumb in Europe. In Balkans, I would say they resemble Albanians a lot. What do you guys think?

Chichic
04-05-2014, 08:32 PM
Mavlet Batirov

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/dailypix/2008/Aug/19/hawaii80819020AR_b.jpg

Kastrioti1443
04-05-2014, 08:32 PM
I swear I would confuse a lot of them for Albanians, especially Highlanders and Kosovar Albanian Villagers:

For example:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?119318-Classify-Pure-Descendants-of-Illyrians-(-thread-39)

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?45915-Kosovar-Albanians(Pictures)/page119

aherne
04-05-2014, 08:35 PM
These ones look pure Aryan:
http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/1108/3b/77735d259f64.jpg
http://s017.radikal.ru/i407/1110/7a/6962e8e0f91f.jpg (guy on left)
Avars and Chechens have neighbored Aryans for thousands of years. Despite having a strong society that frowned upon admixture, over time (as with kikes) Aryan influence accumulated, producing plenty of mixbreeds and even individuals that look wholesale Aryan.

Chichic
04-05-2014, 08:39 PM
I swear I would confuse a lot of them for Albanians, especially Highlanders and Kosovar Albanian Villagers:

For example:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?119318-Classify-Pure-Descendants-of-Illyrians-(-thread-39)

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?45915-Kosovar-Albanians(Pictures)/page119

Normally, Albanians don't look like the people from Dagestan!

Kastrioti1443
04-05-2014, 08:41 PM
Normally, Albanians don't look like the people from Dagestan!

Of course they don't, we are just discussing.

SKYNET
04-05-2014, 08:44 PM
Caucasians are warriors

interes
04-06-2014, 05:36 PM
Interesting. They are certainly lighter than Romanians. Look much like Nakh (Chechen/Ingush), with whom they are related (but with lesser Aryan influence)...However, as Chechens, they do include a minority of Near Eastern types that stick out like a sore thumb in Europe. In Balkans, I would say they resemble Albanians a lot. What do you guys think?

Lol? if you think Avars are lighter than Romanians , Georgians to have more Lighters than Romanians ,. Georgians are not darker than Avar people

Chichic
04-06-2014, 07:35 PM
Lol? if you think Avars are lighter than Romanians , Georgians to have more Lighters than Romanians ,. Georgians are not darker than Avar people

Avars are lighter than Georgians.

Kiyant
04-06-2014, 07:41 PM
I dont really think that anyone from the caucasus thinks about who is whiter........

SKYNET
04-06-2014, 07:49 PM
I dont really think that anyone from the caucasus thinks about who is whiter........




yeah, but you'll read many posts about whiteness only here in The Apricity in our daily life :lol:

Kiyant
04-06-2014, 07:53 PM
yeah, but you'll read many posts about whiteness only here in The Apricity in our daily life :lol:

One question do you consider people of non caucasian langauge groups who live in the caucasus as caucasians (Armenians/Ossetians/Balkars and my peeple the Ahiska)?

SKYNET
04-06-2014, 08:05 PM
One question do you consider people of non caucasian langauge groups who live in the caucasus as caucasians (Armenians/Ossetians/Balkars and my peeple the Ahiska)?



I certainly do, I could consider them as native Caucasians if it would concern only about the geographical issues, of course. As you know, those Caucasians are isolates and they have nothing in common with other groups living in the same region and following the same religion (However, most of them follow a pagan religion)

interes
04-06-2014, 09:05 PM
Avars are lighter than Georgians.

Much or bit?

Chichic
04-06-2014, 09:08 PM
Much!

interes
04-06-2014, 09:16 PM
Much!

And abkhazians ? are much lighter than Georgians?

interes
04-06-2014, 09:37 PM
Much!

And abkhazians ? are much lighter than Georgians?

blogen
04-06-2014, 09:39 PM
These ones look pure Aryan:
http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/1108/3b/77735d259f64.jpg
http://s017.radikal.ru/i407/1110/7a/6962e8e0f91f.jpg (guy on left)
Avars and Chechens have neighbored Aryans for thousands of years. Despite having a strong society that frowned upon admixture, over time (as with kikes) Aryan influence accumulated, producing plenty of mixbreeds and even individuals that look wholesale Aryan.

They are Eastern Dinarids, typical Middle Eastern/Caucasian stock.

interes
04-06-2014, 11:36 PM
Avars are lighter than Georgians.

I think Gurians are much lighter than Avar people in pics

Jaxman
04-06-2014, 11:43 PM
I dont really think that anyone from the caucasus thinks about who is whiter........

Exactly....Who really gives a fuck?

Jaxman
04-06-2014, 11:45 PM
Also I believe that the Avars are dominated by Y-DNA haplogroup J1* while their distant linguistic neighbours the Vainakhs (Chechens and Ingush) are dominated by Y-DNA haplogroup J2a-M67.

Chichic
05-22-2014, 12:13 AM
they look balkan,the last guy i would bet on was from Balkan :D

Avars have a typical Eurasian appearance and would definitely stand out in the Balkans.

Chichic
05-22-2014, 01:01 AM
I swear I would confuse a lot of them for Albanians, especially Highlanders and Kosovar Albanian Villagers:

For example:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?119318-Classify-Pure-Descendants-of-Illyrians-(-thread-39)

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?45915-Kosovar-Albanians(Pictures)/page119

I really laughed. Avars/Dagestanis are nowhere like Albanians or Southern Europeans.

Chichic
05-22-2014, 01:10 AM
Many of them are round-headed like the Ossetians and less robust than the Chechens.

I can discern many elements like Mtebids/Kaukasids, Arrmenids (Asia Minor), Iranids (Caspian), Alpinoids, Eastmediterranids/Pontids (Mediterranean/Balkan), Norids, Nordids and Dinarids.

Overall, they look extremely N Caucasian.

But they could also fit into the Balkans, Anatolia, the S Caucasus and western Iran.

Maybe some of them could pass in Georgia but certainly not in Anatolia or Iran.

random
05-22-2014, 02:12 AM
These ones look pure Aryan:
http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/1108/3b/77735d259f64.jpg
http://s017.radikal.ru/i407/1110/7a/6962e8e0f91f.jpg (guy on left)
Avars and Chechens have neighbored Aryans for thousands of years. Despite having a strong society that frowned upon admixture, over time (as with kikes) Aryan influence accumulated, producing plenty of mixbreeds and even individuals that look wholesale Aryan.

They don't even speak an indo-european language.

SKYNET
05-23-2014, 02:06 AM
They don't even speak an indo-european language.



but afro-americans can speak English very well

Chichic
05-23-2014, 09:43 AM
you meant they look like? They can pass in the Balkans without even trying, too similar. Ukraine as well.

Are you blind or what? These people could definitely not pass in Balkans or Ukraine.

interes
05-23-2014, 10:23 AM
I really laughed. Avars/Dagestanis are nowhere like Albanians or Southern Europeans.

Tehy look ossetians to me

Chichic
05-23-2014, 12:09 PM
Tehy look ossetians to me

No, they look like Chechens/South Russians.

interes
05-23-2014, 12:46 PM
No, they look like Chechens/South Russians.
OSsetians look south russians also

Chichic
05-23-2014, 02:45 PM
OSsetians look south russians also

Some do, but some look more like Balkars and Circassians who are way darker and as a whole a lot different from Chechens or Russians.