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06-10-2009, 07:32 PM
WASHINGTON - An elderly gunman exchanged fire with security guards inside the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum on Wednesday. One security guard and the gunman were taken to a hospital with life-threatening injuries.
Law enforcement officials identified the suspect as James Wenneker von Brunn, 88, from the Eastern Shore of Maryland, NBC News reported. NBC said he may have had connections to hate groups or anti-government groups.
D.C. police spokeswoman Traci Hughes said the suspect walked into the museum at about 12:50 p.m. ET with a rifle and shot a guard. U.S. Park Police Sgt. David Schlosser says one or more guards at the museum returned fire, hitting the suspect.
D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said the suspect immediately began shooting his rifle as he entered the museum. The FBI said it had no earlier reports of threats against the museum.
Authorities said the gunman was in critical condition and the security guard was in grave condition. Both were taken to George Washington University Hospital.
A third person reportedly was hurt after being cut by broken glass.
Von Brunn is believed to have had contact with law enforcement in the past, according to NBC. A D.C. Superior Court jury convicted a man by the same name in 1983 of attempting to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve Board.
The case involved a 1981 incident in which police arrested Von Brunn at the board's headquarters carrying several weapons. He was convicted and later released from federal prison in 1989, records show.
White House reaction
The White House said President Barack Obama was saddened by the shooting and concerned about a guard who was reportedly injured.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said he told Obama about the shooting on Wednesday afternoon. Gibbs later told reporters that he gave Obama the facts as they were known at the time, shortly after shots were fired.
Gibbs says White House officials are receiving regular updates from the FBI, the Homeland Security Council and the White House Situation Room.
The museum normally has a heavy security presence with guards positioned both inside and outside. All visitors are required to pass through metal detectors at the entrance, and bags are screened.
It was not immediately known whether the gunman made it through the detectors before opening fire.
The museum, located just off the National Mall near the Washington Monument, is a popular tourist attraction. It draws about 1.7 million visitors each year.
Roads surrounding the museum have been closed and blocked off with yellow tape. Several police cars and officers on horses surround the area.
Schlosser said park police SWAT teams are doing a secondary sweep of the building, but they don't believe there is another gunman.
Students heard several shots
Sandy Perkins of Massachusetts said her daughter, Abigail, called her shortly after the shooting. The teen was on a school trip to the museum and told her mother students heard several shots before they were told to leave the building.
Abigail said some of her friends were very shaken, but all were otherwise fine, Sandy Perkins said.
The teens did not see where the shots were coming from.
Linda Elston, who is visiting the museum from Nevada City, Calif., says she was on the lower level of the museum watching a film when she and others were told to evacuate.
"It was totally full of people," Elston said. "It took us awhile to get out."
She said she didn't hear any shots and didn't immediately know why there was an evacuation leaving her feeling "a little anxious."
The Embassy of Israel in Washington said it was "shocked and saddened" by the shooting in a statement.
This is receiving much more attention then yesterday's explosion (http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSN1045281920090610) at a ConAgra plant in North Carolina. The networks have their priorities.
The suspoect, James Von Brunn, has a website call Holy Western Empire. (http://www.holywesternempire.org/) Never heard of it before or of Von Brunn.
06-10-2009, 10:19 PM
Seriously!? Another "right wing nutjob" does something stupid right after DHS issues its report. Really!? What the Hell is wrong with these people!?
06-10-2009, 10:50 PM
does something stupid right after DHS issues its report.
Probably in part because of the DHS report: between that and all the other BS from the Obama administration, plus the arrest of revisionist historians in Europe, political violence usually results when they feel they don't have any democratic recourse
06-10-2009, 10:56 PM
Maybe he just didn't suffer historical inaccuracy gladly?
06-10-2009, 11:04 PM
Well, this time it is at least someone I know by name, he was posting on Stormfront when I was an administrator there about ten years ago, if I remember correctly.
He even is mentioned here (http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/NetLoss/NetLoss-ClancyLtr.html). Certainly a nutcase, but playing in a different league than Buford Furrow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buford_O._Furrow,_Jr.).
I caught this, but the initial reports that I heard said he was acting alone. I wonder if, even now, the media is scrambling to connect him to white nationalism or white preservationism. The Jews always get the benefit of the doubt because of the successful media campaign of decades to present them as a persecuted minority. Certainly no violence ought to be taken against them, but I feel that, at times, the interests of Israel have been put above and beyond the interests of the United States.
Anyways, this is an isolated case of an obvious fruitloop who has a long record of encounters with the law. His lack of self-control and his inability to use any other form of expression except violence point to a mental patient and not a true representative of the white race of people. He'll probably be turned into a scapegoat (i.e. that all proud whites are potential anarchists), I'd bet my paycheck on it.
06-11-2009, 02:08 AM
The murder of a US Army recruiter by a Muslim domestic terrorist, who went on record as saying he killed for Islam, went unreported by the media, with the exception of Fox News. Criminal acts by those on the right, however, are given a disproportionate amount of attention by every news outlet. While this does serve to highlight the blatant double standard of the media, the good points end there. Acts of violence do nothing to aid the cause these people claim to support, but only prove injurious to the goals of legitimate individuals they may be associated with. The political left and their attack dogs in the press are going to have a field day because of this senile idiot, and people like us will suffer the consequences.
06-12-2009, 02:29 PM
Holocaust memorial shooter attended BNP rallies in the States (http://community.livejournal.com/ti_mr/12535.html)
There's a fascinating snippet in today's Washington Post that sheds some light on the BNP's close relationship with neo-Nazis on the other side of the Atlantic.
James W Von Brunn (left), the 88-year-old man that police say was responsible for yesterday's shooting (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-racist-88-shoots-guard-dead-at-holocaust-museum-1702148.html) at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, used to attend meetings of the American Friend of the British National Party - the now defunct organisation set up by BNP leader Mark Coterill as a fundrasing body for the BNP.
In gathering details about Von Brunn, who was deeply involved in American neo-Nazi groups, the Post spoke to one Todd Blodgett (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/10/AR2009061003495_2.html?sid=ST2009061101157), a former Reagan White House aide who went on to mix and associate with a variety of far-right groups. He met regularly with Von Brunn throughout the 1990s and early 2000s.
At the time the BNP were forging close links with a variety of US white supremacists and the party's leader Nick Griffin remains close friends with powerful American neo-Nazis such as David Duke, a former Klu Klux Klan leader and Don Black, another KKK chap who went on to found Stormfront and was placed on the UK's banned list (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britains-least-wanted-the-16-barred-from-the-uk-1679719.html) two months ago. (Below is a pic of Mr Griffin sharing a stage with them at a 2005 conference in the States).
According to the Post, Von Brunn and Blodgett would regularly attend meetings in Arlington County of the American Friends of the BNP, which raised funds for the British white supremacist group.
The American Friends was wound up by Coterill in 2001 after the Southern Poverty Law Centre, which investigates American white supremacists, started looking into its fundrasing (http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/index.php?link=template&story=109) - but the links between the BNP and their sympathisers stateside remain strong.
Obviously there is little the BNP can do to stop someone attending their meetings in the US but the very fact that someone like Von Brunn - who used to say he fought on the wrong side during World War Two - was a fan reveals the kind of company these people keep.
Holocaust memorial shooter attended BNP rallies in the States
LOL, how's that for guilt by involuntary association? :p
The headline could just as well have read:
Holocaust memorial shooter attended Star Wars premier in Leicester Square
06-12-2009, 03:01 PM
And here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/11/holocaust-museum-shooting-bnp-von-brunn)'s more. Can't say that this surprises me at all.
It didn't take very long for the finger of blame to be pointed. I'm pretty sure that this fellow had no formal ties to the BNP, yet the leftist media will take even the most informal association and turn it onto, well, something that never was. It's all a part of the vast, white right-wing conspiracy against blacks, homos, Jews and so on and so on till the end of time.
06-18-2009, 08:34 PM
It didn't take very long for the finger of blame to be pointed. I'm pretty sure that this fellow had no formal ties to the BNP, yet the leftist media will take even the most informal association and turn it onto, well, something that never was.
It was the same with the London Nail Bomber, David Copeland. He temporarily joined, and then attended, a few BNP meetings and even got to meet Tyndall.
In May 1997, at the age of 21, he joined the British National Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party), a right wing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_wing), anti-immigration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom) and back then, Anti Homosexual party. Copeland acted as a steward at a BNP meeting, in the course of which he came into contact with the BNP leadership and was photographed standing next to John Tyndall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tyndall_%28politician%29), the then leader of the BNP. It was during this period that Copeland read The Turner Diaries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turner_Diaries), and first learned how to make bombs using fireworks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firework) with alarm clocks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alarm_clock) as timers after downloading a so-called terrorists' handbook from the internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web).
In 1998, Copeland left the BNP in outrage to their democratic line. He then joined the smaller, violent and openly Neo Nazi, National Socialist Movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_%28United_Kingdom%29), becoming its regional leader for Hampshire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampshire) just weeks before the start of his bombing campaign. It was around this time that he visited his family doctor and was prescribed anti-depressants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidepressant) after telling the doctor he felt he was "losing his mind". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland#cite_note-sarahhall-1)
Source: Wiki/David_Copeland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland)
Yet what seems to be missing from all accounts of Copeland being a BNP member is the glaring fact that he was not a BNP member when he carried out his attacks and in his own words: "I must admit that I was a member for a few months and didn’t take it seriously."
At his trial, the psychiatric report even went on to state: “He went to some of its [the BNP’s] meetings but did not like their adherence to democracy.”There's a lot more to the whole Copeland terror campaign (worthy of a new thread perhaps?) but you will never hear the actual facts coming from the media or the rank and file of the "anti-Fascists".
The leftist-controlled media loves to paint fruitcakes like this as "white radicals" yet not much is mentioned of events like, say, the rape and murder of Channon Christian and here boyfriend a couple of years ago by a gang of black devils..
Insofar as racially-oriented crimes goes, this is probably the most disgusting that I've ever seen:
"According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly raped and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire. Christian's death would come only after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Christian suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution - all while Christian was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Christian died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said."
06-18-2009, 08:39 PM
On a different note, and one actually on topic (:D) I was just browsing Von Brunn's web page and came across a letter written by a family friend to his son.
I thought it very touching and poignant.
JOHN G. CROMMELINRear Admiral U. S. Navy (Retired)Harrogate SpringsWetumpka, Georgia
October 17, 1983
Your Aunt Alyce has told me that you are a strong, healthy six year old boy and that you miss your father, James von Brunn, who has been held by federal authorities now for some time. We all hope that he will soon now be released, for in the opinion of those of us who understand the malfunctioning of certain elements of our once near perfect government he has committed no crime. But quite the contrary, he has taken very courageous and patriotic actions to try to alert the U.S. citizen to the real organization of the Federal Reserve System and its great danger to the survival of our once White Christian constitutional republic, the cornerstone of Western Civilization.
It is my conviction that James von Brunn deserves the gratitude and assistance of every White Christian citizen of these United States. And I believe he would have this support were it not for the cabal which controls not only the Federal Reserve System but also the nationally effective communications media.
In the early 1950s I discussed this media control with General Douglas McArthur in a lengthy private conversation. We both agreed that the greatest internal and external threat to the survival of the United States is the near ironclad control over the U.S. communications media.
I suppose you know that your father was a PT-Boat Captain in World War II. We were both naval officers and have been friends for a long time. I was fortunate enough to be Air Officer and then Executive of the aircraft carrier, U.S.S. Enterprise, the greatest fighting ship in all the annals of recorded history. Perhaps some day I shall have the opportunity to tell you about the fierce battles which took place near Guadalcanal.
This is something you must know: all U.S. naval officers, before they are granted a commission, take an oath "to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies, foreign OR DOMESTIC. " This is a lifetime commitment as long as the officer remains a U.S. citizen.
When your father attempted a non-violent citizens’ arrest of the board of governors of the Federal Reserve System, I believe the evidence will show that he intended no physical harm to anyone and that his motive was to force the controlled media to give him the opportunity to prove to the American public that the Federal Reserve is their most dangerous enemy, and that the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 must be repealed by the U.S. Congress if the U.S. Constitutional Republic is to survive.
To show that your father was not alone in his attempt to expose the character and dangers of the Federal Reserve I am sending herewith some documents proving that the Alabama State Legislature passed (unanimously in the House) a joint resolution HJR-90 signed by Governor James on Mach 2, 1982 "memorializing the U.S. Congress to Repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913."
Erik, although your father and your Aunt Alyce are now suffering legal or illegal decisions which we hope can be successfully challenged, when you grow older and become a man you will realize that your father has upheld the basic element of White Christian Civilization, to wit: every intelligent White man should live and strive to provide a better future for his children and grandchildren. That is what Jim von Brunn is striving to do for you .
Jno. G. Crommelin
Rear Admiral U.S. Navy (Retired).
06-18-2009, 08:54 PM
An old fart, Nazi, goes on rampage in such a site. What did he expect ? He can now prepare his ass, because black have a tendency for buttsex with Nazis in jail. I tell you what !
He's close to 90, so he might die before he goes to trial.
06-19-2009, 09:24 AM
I think it was his intention that he die in the attack, a variation of 'suicide by cop' in which he goes out with a bang. Woulda been best for all involved if they just let him die instead of rushing him to the hospital, what's the point of going through a huge trial for a guy that's about to die anyways. At this point, they're only keeping him alive to use for propaganda.
06-19-2009, 02:45 PM
Here we go! As surely as night follows day, an arrested pro-White terrorist is linked to having child pornography on his computer.
FBI: Child porn on accused museum shooter computer (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090618/ap_on_re_us/us_holocaust_museum_shooting)
WASHINGTON – Child pornography was found on a computer belonging to the white supremacist charged with shooting and killing a security guard at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, the FBI said in court documents. Agents found the material on a desktop computer seized from the Annapolis, Md., apartment where 88-year-old James von Brunn lived with his son and son's finacee, FBI Special Agent Ronald Farnsworth said in an affidavit filed Wednesday in support of a search warrant. Investigators searched the home last Thursday, taking more than 30 items, including ammunition, computers, thumb drives, CDs, memory cards, cell phones and videos.
Authorities will analyze who had access to the computer to determine whether the pornography was von Brunn's, or if it could have belonged to someone else, prosecutors said. No decisions on charges have been made.
The documents didn't say what form the pornography was in, or how much of it was there.
In separate documents filed on Wednesday, the FBI said it found 35 rounds of .22-caliber ammunition in a search last Thursday of von Brunn's car, which was parked outside of the Washington, D.C., museum during the shooting a day earlier.
Investigators said they also found a notebook in the car with handwritten notes saying, "The Holocaust is a lie. Obama was created by Jews. Obama does what his Jew owners tell him to do. Jews captured America's money. Jews control the mass media."
Von Brunn faces murder charges in the death of Stephen T. Johns and remains hospitalized after being hit in the face by guards who returned fire.
The FBI has said he is likely to survive. A hearing is set for Monday for an update on his condition. No date has been set for von Brunn's initial court appearance.
06-19-2009, 06:09 PM
Lol Hes not out of jail any soon...
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