Most Retarded Thing A Liberal Has Said To You

[sturmwalkure]

"Imagine you are blind and you can just hear them speaking." (LOL!)

"But I do not hate other races. Most of the immigrants here are very nice." (LOL!)

"I thought about humanity and human rights for a long time and this was my conclusion." (why he became Left-wing in his own words)

"I am fucking Left wing not a Communist. They were almost as bad as the Nazis were." (Lame!)

These were all from the same Austrian kid.....

[Edelmann]

"Kwame Kilpatrick was good for Detroit."

[Siegfried]

I'm not sure. But I'll give my shot.

"What a dull world it would be if we were all white.""

[Stefan]

From my mother no less; I quickly corrected her. This occurred yesterday. She's been brainwashed by the media. :(

"I'm not going to use the word picnic anymore, because it comes from pick-a-nigger in times of slavery. For now on, our picnics will be called basket gatherings."

I wasn't at the computer at the time, so I just took her word for it. When I got on the computer I quickly found this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picnic


The first usage of the word is traced to the 1692 edition of Tony Willis, Origines de la Langue Française, which mentions pique-nique as being of recent origin; it marks the first appearance of the word in print. The term was used to describe a group of people dining in a restaurant who brought their own wine. The concept of a picnic long retained the connotation of a meal to which everyone contributed something. Whether picnic is actually based on the verb piquer which means 'pick' or 'peck' with the rhyming nique meaning "thing of little importance" is doubted; the Oxford English Dictionary says it is of unknown provenance. The word predates lynching in the United States; claims that it is derived from a shortening of 'pick a nigger' are untrue.[2]

[Миле]

I hate when lefties go screaming how full of hate we are,that's hypocritical,we are not the ones that start fights with them with no reason.

[Dalton Fury]

"I'd rather hang out with blacks instead of racist rednecks!" -- My libtarded cousin from south Florida who married a Cuban mulatto that already had 2 Senegalese sprogs

[Legion]

"Immigrants emigrate from countries because of white imperialism is forcing them out!"

"They are backwards because the white man is holding them back!"

Also various "privilege" quotes.

[Supreme American]

I can't remember most of them.

Here are a few retarded excuses for race mixing:

"We're all equals."

"We all bleed red."

[Legion]

Speaking of retarded liberals, is there a parody site/forum about their ideology? Like this satire site about Christians: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/

[Supreme American]

"They are backwards because the white man is holding them back!"

Also various "privilege" quotes.

These two are extremely common, as the leaders of their movement coin these terms and then disseminate them to the useful idiots like crack pebbles.

As they're both built on a house of cards, they're very easily debunked:

1) These people have been backward for tens of thousands of years. Thus it is a false argument to claim they weren't until whites came along. In fact, whites "oppressed" them by bringing medicine, electricity, and other things.

2) The privilege argument is based on the false claim that those who found and inhabit a country don't have the right to control it. If that were the case, Mongoloid control of China is "privilege" as well as black control of Ghana. Nobody is expected to let foreigners in and control the government except whites. Everyone else's right of sovereignty is recognized.

[Supreme American]

"I'd rather hang out with blacks instead of racist rednecks!" -- My libtarded cousin from south Florida who married a Cuban mulatto that already had 2 Senegalese sprogs

That attitude wasn't popular until television made it popular.

A simple look at crime rates shows who is better to associate with. The only ones in this country that make "racist rednecks" an issue is the media. Crime data don't show it.

:coffee:

[Mortimer]

"We all bleed red."

its not retarded, acutally i use the metaphor myself, just yesterday i said it, guilty:(:D

[Supreme American]

I'm not sure. But I'll give my shot.

"What a dull world it would be if we were all white.""

I've heard that too. Most amazing about it is that those who say it say it from some heavily-white community. Needless to say, lip service and practicing what you preach are two totally different things.

[StonyArabia]

I'm not sure. But I'll give my shot.

"What a dull world it would be if we were all white.""

That's the typical Canadian mentality. In my school they kept teaching that and to embrace differences. Ironically the school that I went to at least the high school was all White, the only non-white mixed person was me. Here in Canada even the conservatives have liberal ideas, liberals like all people some are rational in their thoughts and others are not.

[Flintlocke]

"we're all equals, free food for everyone, human rights for animals..." yadda yadda bullshit

god I miss Gengis Khan :(

[Mortimer]

Im actually still struggling to find my orientation between liberalism and conservativism (including racialist ideas)...
There are pros and cons to be taken into consideration for both, i fear i will keep struggling my whole life and will be prisoned inbetween, neither the one or the other..... call me free spirit

[Dalton Fury]

That attitude wasn't popular until television made it popular.

A simple look at crime rates shows who is better to associate with. The only ones in this country that make "racist rednecks" an issue is the media. Crime data don't show it.

:coffee:

Yep :thumb001:

[Balmung]

There's a jewish guy around here who is the archetype of everything everyone has said about Jews on this forum, lol.

Not even the worst part. You have not seen a wigger until you've seen this guy. White girls are ugly and don't compare to black women too him.

Everytime i say something negative, or something not in the light of minorities he will go to any lengths to defend them with the shittiest logic ever. Sometimes i want to punch him in the face, but i can't do jail i'm too antsy and impatient to sit in a cage. He thinks us as "friends" but i try purposely to avoid him. Hard to do since he's 3 doors down.

[Flintlocke]

^ put him in the oven :D

[Gospodine]

Here in Canada even the conservatives have liberal ideas, liberals like all people some are rational in their thoughts and others are not.

I think Jon Stewart said it best with: "Now Canada is obviously a very liberal country so their equivalent of a conservative party would be the Gay Ralph Nader Fans for Peace."

[RoyBatty]

There's a jewish guy around here who is the archetype of everything everyone has said about Jews on this forum, lol.

Not even the worst part. You have not seen a wigger until you've seen this guy. White girls are ugly and don't compare to black women too him.

Everytime i say something negative, or something not in the light of minorities he will go to any lengths to defend them with the shittiest logic ever. Sometimes i want to punch him in the face, but i can't do jail i'm too antsy and impatient to sit in a cage. He thinks us as "friends" but i try purposely to avoid him. Hard to do since he's 3 doors down.


This guy sounds like a charity worker!
More white wimminz for you. :thumbs up

PS, you'll run into this guy in 6 years from now... and guess what? By that time he'll have morphed into the numero uno racist you've ever seen in your life ;)

[Insuperable]

There's a jewish guy around here who is the archetype of everything everyone has said about Jews on this forum, lol.

Not even the worst part. You have not seen a wigger until you've seen this guy. White girls are ugly and don't compare to black women too him.

Everytime i say something negative, or something not in the light of minorities he will go to any lengths to defend them with the shittiest logic ever. Sometimes i want to punch him in the face, but i can't do jail i'm too antsy and impatient to sit in a cage. He thinks us as "friends" but i try purposely to avoid him. Hard to do since he's 3 doors down.

You should decorate your room with nazi symbols and nazi generals and ask him to get something from your room

[Pallantides]

*Well this is mostly from Socialists and not Liberals, but I guess it apply as well*

The ones I really hate are those who say everyone with skin colour a shade darker than us are "ethnic" and have a culture while we don't have it because we are "white" and need to be culturally enriched.

Looking ethnic or being ethnic, pretty much means having dark skin and not being a North European. I can't really explain it further since I have problem fathoming this kind of thinking since to me it's so obvious we have our own culture and ethnic group.


A good example of this sort of thinking, from former Swedish Social Democrat Politican Mona Shalin:


I think that's what makes many Swedes jealous of immigrant groups. You have a culture, an identity, a history, something that brings you together. And what do we have? We have Midsummer's Eve and such silly things.

[Melina]

Last year in college a liberal asked why I didn't date men of color. A few days later called me a racist and said I needed to fall in love with a black man because according to her "black men are more romantic."

[Kazimiera]

For me the Left is first and foremost an economic system. It's about Capitalism and the poor sod who is being exploited. Workers are being used, abused and exploited.

For those of you who are working I have this question: How many of you can afford to purchase the service you render? If you work in a factory that builds cars, can you actually afford to buy one of them yourself? The bricklayer: can he purchase the house he builds? The doctor: could they afford to pay doctor's and hospital bills if they or their loved ones become ill? Chances are that you probably don't.

The person behind the till at Walmart. How many thousands of dollars of merchandise do they ring up every day? And how much of that do they go home with? Only the tiniest percentage. What makes it even worse is that no matter how many items they ring up or how much money goes through their hands, they are paid an hourly salary and that's that.

For me it is besides the point whether you are black, white, green or spotted. People are being exploited. The least that should happen is that you should own a share of the service you render. If you ring up 10 000 dollars on a till today, you get a higher percentage than if you rung up 1000 dollars. If you are a lazy ass then it is at your own cost and detriment.

[Dalton Fury]

Last year in college a liberal asked why I didn't date men of color. A few days later called me a racist and said I needed to fall in love with a black man because according to her "black men are more romantic."

This is some ass backwards logic. Damn libtards :laugh2:

[Kazimiera]

Last year in college a liberal asked why I didn't date men of color. A few days later called me a racist and said I needed to fall in love with a black man because according to her "black men are more romantic."

Do people really not have better things to do than talk crap like this? Whoever they are, they should be less concerned with romance and more concerned about their studies. :rolleyes2:

[Supreme American]

its not retarded, acutally i use the metaphor myself, just yesterday i said it, guilty:(:D

Rats also bleed red. Ready to marry one?

[Supreme American]

Last year in college a liberal asked why I didn't date men of color. A few days later called me a racist and said I needed to fall in love with a black man because according to her "black men are more romantic."

Black males fawn like crazy over white females. I've never seen black males treat black women the way they've gone out of their way to compliment and offer chivalry toward me and other white women. If you want to call that blatant racial ass-kissing "romantic," then I guess it's the case.

[Melina]

Do people really not have better things to do than talk crap like this? Whoever they are, they should be less concerned with romance and more concerned about their studies. :rolleyes2:

I said something similar to her but then she tried hooking me up with a black man. In my personal opinion I think everyone should go with their own. Anyways her perception of racism is racist because she said "black men are more romantic." If I would have said white men where smarter she most probably would have told me to hang myself..

[Stefan]

"black men are more romantic."

http://lolsheaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/The-LOL-Face.jpg

How did she come to that conclusion?

[Supreme American]

For me the Left is first and foremost an economic system. It's about Capitalism and the poor sod who is being exploited. Workers are being used, abused and exploited.

Leftism is far more than business corruption. That's the problem. They believe that in order to have a "just" society, all distinctions among groups need to be erased - including nationality, race, ethnicity, culture. All of it.

Thus, it's basically genocide in the name of workers' rights.

[Supreme American]

That's the typical Canadian mentality. In my school they kept teaching that and to embrace differences. Ironically the school that I went to at least the high school was all White, the only non-white mixed person was me. Here in Canada even the conservatives have liberal ideas, liberals like all people some are rational in their thoughts and others are not.

If they actually embraced differences, they wouldn't be pushing people into erasing the differences they see by mixing. You can't say you don't like homogenous societies and then turn around and destroy it by creating a different kind of homogenous society.

[Mortimer]

Rats also bleed red. Ready to marry one?

its a metaphor obviously....

[Mortimer]

I said something similar to her but then she tried hooking me up with a black man. In my personal opinion I think everyone should go with their own. Anyways her perception of racism is racist because she said "black men are more romantic." If I would have said white men where smarter she most probably would have told me to hang myself..

wtf, was she black or a retarded white person?

[Melina]

wtf, was she black or a retarded white person?

Sadly she is a white woman.

[Breedingvariety]

I said something similar to her but then she tried hooking me up with a black man. In my personal opinion I think everyone should go with their own. Anyways her perception of racism is racist because she said "black men are more romantic." If I would have said white men where smarter she most probably would have told me to hang myself..
Yes, next time tell them not to be racist towards white men.

[Supreme American]

its a metaphor obviously....

And a very meaningless one.

[Supreme American]

Sadly she is a white woman.

The media and the hostile campus mindset have gotten to her.

[Han Cholo]

Leftism is far more than business corruption. That's the problem. They believe that in order to have a "just" society, all distinctions among groups need to be erased - including nationality, race, ethnicity, culture. All of it.

Thus, it's basically genocide in the name of workers' rights.

I don't see why you gringos (and to certain extent Europeans) always associate left with loving minorities and being a hippie. Being a leftist here has nothing to do with minorities and hippiesm. Here being a leftist is associated to being a patriotic nationalist, democratizing the media so it's not the same programed bullshit to make people stupid, and also sharing knowledge more readily.

[Mortimer]

Sadly she is a white woman.

the she is probably a coalburner and jealous that you arent. for me what she did is violating your privacy, its another form of sexual harassment. she KNEW you dont date oustide your race and tried to FORCE you

[Sikeliot]

"Illegal immigrants are a cultural gift that we should embrace.. we made it hard for them in their country so now we must compensate for it here."

[StonyArabia]

I think Jon Stewart said it best with: "Now Canada is obviously a very liberal country so their equivalent of a conservative party would be the Gay Ralph Nader Fans for Peace."

Canada was always more liberal than other parts of the Anglo-sephere. The conservatives are indeed like liberals. Canada has been liberalized to great extent but that's because it was never strongly conservative and stagnent like the U.S, Australia or New Zeland. As well the immigrants in Canada all vote Liberal and NDP.


If they actually embraced differences, they wouldn't be pushing people into erasing the differences they see by mixing. You can't say you don't like homogenous societies and then turn around and destroy it by creating a different kind of homogenous society.

Well they have never encouraged mixing at all. They just taught us to respect other peoples and cultures. They often used the pharse imagine if we are all Whites it would be boring or dull. However most people were not opposed to racemixing and they said what happens between two consenting adults that it should not matter. There was never pics of miscengation being shown, but it occurred in the dating scene but no one cared like some girls dating assorted Wogs from the MENA. However Canada never had anti-miscengation laws. The younger generation is just more accepting than before and see it as rather normal and so are their families. Being a liberal does not you mean you racemix, but many are open to it, so Canada will just stay the same it was never a homogenous society.

[Supreme American]

I don't see why you gringos (and to certain extent Europeans) always associate left with loving minorities and being a hippie. Being a leftist here has nothing to do with minorities and hippiesm. Here being a leftist is associated to being a patriotic nationalist, democratizing the media so it's not the same programed bullshit to make people stupid, and also sharing knowledge more readily.

I'm basing it on Marxist philosophy, by what they've said. You can also see it in their activism. They want all obstacles to their rule destroyed, and they consider even the traditional family an oppressive obstacle. Marxism is the primary source of leftist thought.

Nationalism is an anti-Marxist philosophy, and in my experience, "democratizing" the media means replacing it with left-wing party line garbage. I've never once read a non-biased bit of leftist literature, and I've read LOTS of it over the years. Nationalism is accepted by them in what manner it is a vehicle to promote or protect them. That's it. Ultimately, though, they want nations abolished. That's partly the point of a classless society.

[Han Cholo]

I'm basing it on Marxist philosophy, by what they've said. You can also see it in their activism. They want all obstacles to their rule destroyed, and they consider even the traditional family an oppressive obstacle. Marxism is the primary source of leftist thought.

Indeed. Marxism is also the primary source of Nationalism.



Nationalism is an anti-Marxist philosophy, and in my experience, "democratizing" the media means replacing it with left-wing party line garbage.

I prefer left-wing party garbage than American garbage where Negroes marry a white girl, or whatever else with lots of guns and detectives. That's the garbage right wing imports here.




I've never once read a non-biased bit of leftist literature, and I've read LOTS of it over the years.

What they are proposing here is independent television, not turn all into left-wing propaganda. And even then left wing propaganda is far better than the Americanesque reality shows ala Tyra Banks the right wing here proposes to stupidify people.




Natioalism is accepted by them in what manner it is a vehicle to promote or protect them. That's it. Ultimately, though, they want nations abolished. That's partly the point of a classless society.

Classless societies are impossible to achieve and recognizing it, that's the first step into true left wing.

[Supreme American]

Well they have never encouraged mixing at all. They just taught us to respect other peoples and cultures.

That's part of it. The other part is the endless demonization of white history, white culture, and white societies. They tell us we're evil if we want to preserve any of it, and that includes by sexual selectiveness. Read their literature and you can see where the TV propaganda comes from. One feeds the other.



They often used the pharse imagine if we are all Whites it would be boring or dull.

Thus taking cheap shots at preservationism by attaching negative words to it. They find it "boring" if we're all white but not "boring" if we're all a homogenous brownish turd-colored mix of blah.



However most people were not opposed to racemixing and they said what happens between two consenting adults that it should not matter.

Which came first, the propaganda or the attitude? Again, that's them at work.



There was never pics of miscengation being shown, but it occurred in the dating scene but no one cared like some girls dating assorted Wogs from the MENA.

Huh? There are now, all over the place. It's being marketed, just like it's being marketed the false idea that blacks are intellectual Huxtables.



However Canada never had anti-miscengation laws.

Did it really need them? Such laws are most likely in areas with large non-white settlement. It would be like an agrarian country making laws against corporate dumping. If there are no corporations, why legislate against them?



The younger generation is just more accepting than before and see it as rather normal and so are their families. Being a liberal does not you mean you racemix, but many are open to it, so Canada will just stay the same it was never a homogenous society.

Years of brainwashing. If having an over 90% population of one race and culture isn't homogenous and having the other 10% or so largely on reservations, then what is?

[PeacefulCaribbeanDutch]

"Obama's doing pretty well"

[Kazimiera]

I don't see why you gringos (and to certain extent Europeans) always associate left with loving minorities and being a hippie. Being a leftist here has nothing to do with minorities and hippiesm. Here being a leftist is associated to being a patriotic nationalist, democratizing the media so it's not the same programed bullshit to make people stupid, and also sharing knowledge more readily.

Mextremist, I think I love you. ;)

I didn't know about the love and hippies being associated with Leftism until I happened upon this site. I've been trying to figure out for some time how they fit together only to learn that its apparently an American thing. (go figure :rolleyes2:)

I live very far away from the US and never ever have I heard about destroying races and cultures and ethnicities and all that crap. And that everyone should have interracial relationships etc etc. I have never heard any of this until I came across this forum. I have looked long and hard since joining here and have STILL not seen anything like this. Which also leads me to believe that this is an American thing.

To be perfectly honest, who marries who, what colour they are and what shade their offspring will be is of no concern to me. As long as they are decent, law abiding citizens then that is all that should matter. Let the Right wing deal with the petty stuff like skin colour and whether contemporary art is degenerate or not.

[Supreme American]

Indeed. Marxism is also the primary source of Nationalism.

Marxism is anti-nationalism, though. From Engels' The Principles of Communism


What will be the attitude of communism to existing nationalities?

The nationalities of the peoples associating themselves in accordance with the principle of community will be compelled to mingle with each other as a result of this association and thereby to dissolve themselves, just as the various estate and class distinctions must disappear through the abolition of their basis, private property




I prefer left-wing party garbage than American garbage where Negroes marry a white girl, or whatever else with lots of guns and detectives. That's the garbage right wing imports here.

I've yet to see anyone left-wing against miscegenation in my life. They're the ones backing the propaganda mills and paying the professional demonstrators and hiring the lawyers.



What they are proposing here is independent television, not turn all into left-wing propaganda. And even then left wing propaganda is far better than the Americanesque reality shows ala Tyra Banks the right wing here proposes to stupidify people.

They always say they're independent.



Classless societies are impossible to achieve and recognizing it, that's the first step into true left wing.

Of course. But with that false ideal, they've killed millions and are trying to get rid of many millions more.

[Supreme American]

"Illegal immigrants are a cultural gift that we should embrace.. we made it hard for them in their country so now we must compensate for it here."

This one is far too common. It's underlying belief is one of collective white guilt. Those who say it always deny having white guilt as a motivator, but those comments don't come from anywhere else.

[Mortimer]

@Supreme, not every Form of Socialism is Anti-Nationalist, or would you call Nazism Anti-Nationalist?

[Mortimer]

I think Leftism and Nationalism can co-exist in various Forms. Subchas Chandras Bose was a Leftist-Nationalist an Revolutionary Nationalist. So was Hitler.

[Pallantides]

In my country the extreme left and anti-racist/antifascist movement have often been associated with punks and not hippies, like Blitz:
http://i.imgur.com/T2VIB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jaaYm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xT6PU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7GYv3.jpg

[Han Cholo]

Marxism is anti-nationalism, though. From Engels' The Principles of Communism


What will be the attitude of communism to existing nationalities?

The nationalities of the peoples associating themselves in accordance with the principle of community will be compelled to mingle with each other as a result of this association and thereby to dissolve themselves, just as the various estate and class distinctions must disappear through the abolition of their basis, private property

Mein Kampf is around 70% based on Marx. Think about it. Left Wing proposes a government by the people, where people can have a decision. The people in this case is "the race". Left wing often sees a problem when foreigners are intervening too much in a nation. To be honest, it does not seem very far from nationalism to me. And also, have you heard about National Socialism?

Private property should be respected as long as it is not owned by a parasite multi-national corporation that doesn't even do any good to the nation.






I've yet to see anyone left-wing against miscegenation in my life. They're the ones backing the propaganda mills and paying the professional demonstrators and hiring the lawyers.

Well I am. But miscegenation can never be a big deal in homogeneous nations, reason which we think in other priorities. I've also never seen a left winger in here. It's holy wood that proposes race mixing and as we all know holy wood is a basic reincarnation of capitalism. How could someone call Holywood leftist? It's the antithesis of it.





They always say they're independent.

If sources and filmers that aren't made by a monopoly, like Televisa or whatever, then it most likely means it's independent.





Of course. But with that false ideal, they've killed millions and are trying to get rid of many millions more.

I don't know, but I associate all of that jazz with right wing rather than our left wing. It's the right wing that constantly invites foreigners here. For example our right wing party invited 40,000 haitians after the disaster.

I don't believe this bullshit "right wing" is more "patriotic". On the contrary, the empirical facts prove the contrary. Right wing brought us this NAFTA crap.

[Supreme American]

the she is probably a coalburner and jealous that you arent. for me what she did is violating your privacy, its another form of sexual harassment. she KNEW you dont date oustide your race and tried to FORCE you

Attempts to shame are one thing the left does as a weapon. I advocate using it right back.

[Supreme American]

@Supreme, not every Form of Socialism is Anti-Nationalist, or would you call Nazism Anti-Nationalist?

Pure Marxism is. There are obviously national forms of it popular in certain societies. The Latin American version incorporates Catholicism, at least in popular rhetoric.

[Mortimer]

Pure Marxism is. There are obviously national forms of it popular in certain societies. The Latin American version incorporates Catholicism, at least in popular rhetoric.

I agree.

[Supreme American]

Mein Kampf is around 70% based on Marx. Think about it. Left Wing proposes a government by the people, where people can have a decision. The people in this case is "the race". Left wing often sees a problem when foreigners are intervening too much in a nation. To be honest, it does not seem very far from nationalism to me. And also, have you heard about National Socialism?

By what little I read of Mein Kampf, I was irritated by the adoption of Marxist lingo by Hitler. Perhaps he was trying to be trendy, I don't know. Pure Marxism isn't nationalistic at all, except in trying to rally people.



Private property should be respected as long as it is not owned by a parasite multi-national corporation that doesn't even do any good to the nation.

Not the case in classical Marxism, either. One issue I have with Marxism is the inability to distinguish an economic system from individuals abusing that system. It throws both in the pot and wants to abolish it all. What you describe is more of what they'd call Social Democrats in Europe.




Well I am. But miscegenation can never be a big deal in homogeneous nations, reason which we think in other priorities. I've also never seen a left winger in here. It's holy wood that proposes race mixing and as we all know holy wood is a basic reincarnation of capitalism. How could someone call Holywood leftist? It's the antithesis of it.

Hollywood has been run by the Left since forever. Red themes have been in movies for decades: The evil white male capitalist, the exploiter corporate businessman, the evil white racist meme. They're always there. I don't know what you're talking about.



If sources and filmers that aren't made by a monopoly, like Televisa or whatever, then it most likely means it's independent.

I also mean politically independent. If they're just issuing standard left-wing talking points through a minor publisher (say City Lights Books?), then they're as party-owned as the media they criticize.



I don't know, but I associate all of that jazz with right wing rather than our left wing. It's the right wing that constantly invites foreigners here. For example our right wing party invited 40,000 haitians after the disaster.

I don't believe this bullshit "right wing" is more "patriotic". On the contrary, the empirical facts prove the contrary. Right wing brought us this NAFTA crap.

The right wing isn't a monolith. We had greedy conservatives here such as John McCain pushing with the Democrats for amnesty. Then we had the conservative wing of the GOP push against it. They won in the end.

NAFTA was signed by Bill Clinton, btw.

The left promote mass migration. They see migrants as a revolutionary class to help topple the status quo. Example from New Zealand (http://workersparty.org.nz/):

http://i48.tinypic.com/23qz0qw.png

[Supreme American]

@Supreme, not every Form of Socialism is Anti-Nationalist, or would you call Nazism Anti-Nationalist?

I would call it a nationalistic adoption of certain left-wing financial ideologies. They weren't that economically left, as they allowed private ownership of factories, etc.

[Edgard]

Frome someone qualifying as a teacher.

"IQ is entirely a result of environmental factors" lol

[Han Cholo]

By what little I read of Mein Kampf, I was irritated by the adoption of Marxist lingo by Hitler. Perhaps he was trying to be trendy, I don't know. Pure Marxism isn't nationalistic at all, except in trying to rally people.

No one really does pure Marxism. But political Nationalism is somehow based on Marxism. As you said, it's necessary to gather people Maybe only Cuba. But Cuba is not really an example to follow.





Not the case in classical Marxism, either. One issue I have with Marxism is the inability to distinguish an economic system from individuals abusing that system. It throws both in the pot and wants to abolish it all. What you describe is more of what they'd call Social Democrats in Europe.

Then Social Democrats are what we call Left Wing here.






Hollywood has been run by the Left since forever. Red themes have been in movies for decades: The evil white male capitalist, the exploiter corporate businessman, the evil white racist meme. They're always there. I don't know what you're talking about.

A company that exports movies and makes millions and millions of profit, and sells in the whole world just can't be Left. It just can't be. I do not know what you're talking about. It's just a pure bodying of capitalism.





I also mean politically independent. If they're just issuing standard left-wing talking points through a minor publisher (say City Lights Books?), then they're as party-owned as the media they criticize.

Their purpose is to overthrow the TV monopolies which are crap. As TV is one of the media that reaches most people, and consequently affects people opinion, it needs to be turned into something better that can actually help people.





The right wing isn't a monolith. We had greedy conservatives here such as John McCain pushing with the Democrats for amnesty. Then we had the conservative wing of the GOP push against it. They won in the end.

The left wing is not a monolith either. There's lots of difference between Lula and Castro for example.



NAFTA was signed by Bill Clinton, btw.

I consider Bill Clinton right wing and capialist enough. It was also signed by Ernesto Zedillo, which is also a right wing capitalist piece of shit.



The left promote mass migration. They see migrants as a revolutionary class to help topple the status quo. Example from New Zealand (http://workersparty.org.nz/):

http://i48.tinypic.com/23qz0qw.png

Here they propose anti-immigration, a self sustaining economy. They also propose building petrol refineries so we don't have to sell oranges to then buy orange juice again. And even that, they're not only anti-immigration but also anti-emigration!! You just can't get more nationalistic than this.

Tolerance of minorities and all that jazz is irrelevant here. We're homogeneous so we don't have to worry about it.

Tolerance of other races and inviting them to settle here has never been a discourse of the left.

In fact, it's the right wing which singed the NAFTA that supports people going to work in the USA. I would not be surprised once the Right wing government of Mexico sends all poor people to the USA and we have no underclass anymore our "right wing" will start bringing Haitians and Central Americans.

This is the reason I voted for Left wing.

[Supreme American]

Frome someone qualifying as a teacher.

"IQ is entirely a result of environmental factors" lol

Refer them to twin adoption studies.

[Mortimer]

I would call it a nationalistic adoption of certain left-wing financial ideologies. They weren't that economically left, as they allowed private ownership of factories, etc.

They were also Socialist because they wanted a strong government and didnt allowed free speech, party system etc. they were no different then Marxists in this regard... It was a Nationalism based Socialist System and also they adopted certain Socialist Policies like certain Welfare etc.

[Supreme American]

No one really does pure Marxism. But political Nationalism is somehow based on Marxism. As you said, it's necessary to gather people Maybe only Cuba. But Cuba is not really an example to follow.

They do, enough so. Mass property confiscation/nationalization in various Left regimes always gets negative attention.



Then Social Democrats are what we call Left Wing here.

They are, they belong to the Socialist International.



A company that exports movies and makes millions and millions of profit, and sells in the whole world just can't be Left. It just can't be. I do not know what you're talking about. It's just a pure bodying of capitalism.

The social values they promote are entirely of the left-wing. They have been at the forefront of promoting cultural rot in the US for over 50 years. Simply making money off the rot doesn't make them rightist.



Their purpose is to overthrow the TV monopolies which are crap. As TV is one of the media that reaches most people, and consequently affects people opinion, it needs to be turned into something better that can actually help people.

I disagree. It seems to me they merely want to replace one worldview they don't like with theirs. They're just different turds in the same bucket to me.



The left wing is not a monolith either. There's lots of difference between Lula and Castro for example.

True, but they're all Leftists. There are many varieties of them.



I consider Bill Clinton right wing and capialist enough. It was also signed by Ernesto Zedillo, which is also a right wing capitalist piece of shit.

Clinton isn't right wing. It seems that way because you're that left-wing. When I was a Marxist, I called Democrats "rightists" because they weren't anti-capitalist. That's the standard view of the far left. Leftism isn't just about money, it's also about social policy and culture.



Here they propose anti-immigration, a self sustaining economy. They also propose building petrol refineries so we don't have to sell oranges to then buy orange juice again. And even that, they're not only anti-immigration but also anti-emigration!! You just can't get more nationalistic than this.

No, they were proposing pro-mass immigration. Look at the sign again. They want the borders GONE.

[Han Cholo]

They do, enough so. Mass property confiscation/nationalization in various Left regimes always gets negative attention.

I don't care about negative attention. One has to do what is necessary.










The social values they promote are entirely of the left-wing. They have been at the forefront of promoting cultural rot in the US for over 50 years. Simply making money off the rot doesn't make them rightist.

Holywood is pure capitalism, expensive cars, clothes, consume, consume, consume, propaganda. You already know the whole history. What is what makes them left wing? Left Wing is not about "culture".





I disagree. It seems to me they merely want to replace one worldview they don't like with theirs. They're just different turds in the same bucket to me.

If they're all turds then you have to choose the turd that smells the least bad and in my case it's the left wing.










Clinton isn't right wing. It seems that way because you're that left-wing. When I was a Marxist, I called Democrats "rightists" because they weren't anti-capitalist. That's the standard view of the far left. Leftism isn't just about money, it's also about social policy and culture.

Most things coming out of USA are capitalist and right wing. I'm not even that left wing but I have realized the parties that are not right wing in my country are far more functional and nationalistic than the ones that are.





No, they were proposing pro-mass immigration. Look at the sign again. They want the borders GONE.

That's not the left wing proposal in my country. I think you have a twisted view of Left Wing, adding things that just can't fit like race-mixing, borders and whatever else because real left wing just can't exist in the most capitalist country in the world.

If you read the pamphlets of LeftWing marches here, you would think they have completely opposed ideologies.

[Dead Eye]

http://lolsheaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/The-LOL-Face.jpg

How did she come to that conclusion?

''Damn girl,youz beez fine'' is probably romantic to these silly girls.

[Dead Eye]

Its already been mentioned i think,but its the ''we all bleed red'' crap.I cannot tell you how much i hate people saying it.It makes my blood boil.

[sturmwalkure]

Its already been mentioned i think,but its the ''we all bleed red'' crap.I cannot tell you how much i hate people saying it.It makes my blood boil.

Ditto. By the way the Austrian retard who said these quotes to me used to be Nationalist and Right-wing. :mad::( Bloody traitor.

[Kazimiera]

Ditto. By the way the Austrian retard who said these quotes to me used to be Nationalist and Right-wing. :mad::( Bloody traitor.

Are you STILL on about this guy? It's been months already.

Who says he wasn't just trying to be Nationalist and Right-wing? For some people politics is like fashion, they latch onto what is the latest trend. They stick with it for while until the next fad arrives.

[sturmwalkure]

Are you STILL on about this guy? It's been months already.

Who says he wasn't just trying to be Nationalist and Right-wing? For some people politics is like fashion, they latch onto what is the latest trend. They stick with it for while until the next fad arrives.

He is a trend-follower to be honest. Yes, now he is "bisexual". I honestly don't think of him much anymore. ;) It's been a year and a half since we last communicated anyways.

[Kazimiera]

He is a trend-follower to be honest. Yes, now he is "bisexual". I honestly don't think of him much anymore. ;) It's been a year and a half since we last communicated anyways.

Yeah. Let bygones be bygones. But I do know that it is very frustrating and confusing when someone proves themselves just to be another follower. Makes you wonder about their whole person. He probably doesn't have a good self-image, which is why he latches onto "labels". Such people define themselves by the label they choose to wear. As you say, now it's "bisexual", which apparently is also quite a trend now. Anything for a bit of attention. Next week he'll be shooting down people in gay rights movements. :rolleyes:

[Supreme American]

I don't care about negative attention. One has to do what is necessary.

When you do that on a national level, expect to be treated like Mossadegh or the FSLN.



Holywood is pure capitalism, expensive cars, clothes, consume, consume, consume, propaganda. You already know the whole history. What is what makes them left wing? Left Wing is not about "culture".

The left have learned that capitalism as a vehicle to undermine society is not only successful, but lucrative. Left messages, as I said, dominate scripts coming out of Hollyweird. True Marxists would probably consider them useful idiots at best, but they're spreading the same anti-Western ideological message. The cultural aspect is a huge part of the Left; they promote anything from homosexuals exposing themselves in public to every other kind of countercultural movement. Anything to dissolve the traditional mainstream and present an ideological alternative. ALL of that comes from the political left.



If they're all turds then you have to choose the turd that smells the least bad and in my case it's the left wing.

From my perspective in my country it's the opposite.



Most things coming out of USA are capitalist and right wing. I'm not even that left wing but I have realized the parties that are not right wing in my country are far more functional and nationalistic than the ones that are.

Capitalist and right wing aren't attached at the hip. There is a segment of the academic left that embraces capitalism but invokes Marxist class conflict theory in aspects of race, culture, and law.



That's not the left wing proposal in my country. I think you have a twisted view of Left Wing, adding things that just can't fit like race-mixing, borders and whatever else because real left wing just can't exist in the most capitalist country in the world.

Lucky you. In the US, Canada, Europe, and elsewhere, it is the idea with little dissent. They view mass migration of third world labor as a revolutionary class that they can use to topple the establishment. Sectors of the right want them here for profit. They both want them here.



If you read the pamphlets of LeftWing marches here, you would think they have completely opposed ideologies.

I've never read much of the Mexican left in general, outside a very small portion of Subcomandante Marcos. The basis of his argument seems to be one I see very commonly on the left, which is that if the poorest of the world live as they do, it's the fault of the Other. Without the Other oppressing them, they'd not be in their condition, which of course, is totally false.

With such a worldview, then, it's no wonder that they think the remedy to this situation is to take from the Other and give to these people.

Btw, as far as Marcos goes, he's like Che Guevara: A person of white European ancestry born in the area to immigrants who exposed in his youth to Marxist or similar leftist garbage, then developed a self-hatred for his ancestors and began to champion backward tribes and everyone else viewed as being as part of the have-nots. He has what we would call in the US "white guilt."

[Supreme American]

Yeah. Let bygones be bygones. But I do know that it is very frustrating and confusing when someone proves themselves just to be another follower. Makes you wonder about their whole person. He probably doesn't have a good self-image, which is why he latches onto "labels". Such people define themselves by the label they choose to wear. As you say, now it's "bisexual", which apparently is also quite a trend now. Anything for a bit of attention. Next week he'll be shooting down people in gay rights movements. :rolleyes:

I tend to suspect that people do this as they have been stripped of their traditional culture and seek belonging and identity. They're basically rootless drifters redefining themselves according to what social group they run with at the given moment. Not all cultures suffer this problem, specifically ones in white-majority countries subject to hard anti-folk propaganda.

I can remember this myself. Growing up the daughter of a German immigrant, I was deluged with the anti-white/anti-German crap in the media, cultural, and political establishments. Consequently, I wanted nothing to do with my German heritage in specific and my European/white heritage in general. So, even though I wanted an identity and sense of belonging, I was essentially trapped in that I was propagandized into alienation from who I came from.

[Kazimiera]

I tend to suspect that people do this as they have been stripped of their traditional culture and seek belonging and identity. They're basically rootless drifters redefining themselves according to what social group they run with at the given moment. Not all cultures suffer this problem, specifically ones in white-majority countries subject to hard anti-folk propaganda.

I can remember this myself. Growing up the daughter of a German immigrant, I was deluged with the anti-white/anti-German crap in the media, cultural, and political establishments. Consequently, I wanted nothing to do with my German heritage in specific and my European/white heritage in general. So, even though I wanted an identity and sense of belonging, I was essentially trapped in that I was propagandized into alienation from who I came from.

Young people look for a place to belong to. As you get older you become more comfortable with yourself, but while you are young you feel that you need a place to fit in.

[Supreme American]

Young people look for a place to belong to. As you get older you become more comfortable with yourself, but while you are young you feel that you need a place to fit in.

Yes, but I'm talking about an alienation from self that is artificially manufactured by political radicals.

[Kazimiera]

Yes, but I'm talking about an alienation from self that is artificially manufactured by political radicals.

I have not experienced this sort of thing from a political angle. The kids at school alienated me because I didn't have a father, I looked different and spoke a foreign language at home.

[Supreme American]

I have not experienced this sort of thing from a political angle. The kids at school alienated me because I didn't have a father, I looked different and spoke a foreign language at home.

Depends on where you live. It comes from schoolteachers, politicians, and media here.

[Kazimiera]

Depends on where you live. It comes from schoolteachers, politicians, and media here.

When people say things like this I am very glad that I do not live in the US.

[Incel King]

Most retarded thing that liberals there repeating like damaged compact disc is that we should left Bosnia and immigrate to west. When I say that I'm against emigration they say that I don't understand it because I'm too young and that west is far better than Bosnia then I berserk and brutally offend them.

[PetiteParisienne]

After arguing that Islam breeds extremists and violence like no other organised group ever has, this liberal said to me:

Why don't you just admit that you're a bigot and make this easier for all of us?

[Mortimer]

After arguing that Islam breeds extremists and violence like no other organised group ever has, this liberal said to me:

Why don't you just admit that you're a bigot and make this easier for all of us?

I know you are Jewish, Israel is at War with Muslims and Jews sometimes get targeted by Muslims and all but there are also other Jews who are for peace and dont say "Muslims are all Terrorists", there are conciliative Jews as well. I think Jews and Muslims should make peace, and save the World from more Trouble.

http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/108/565/17475600/friedenspfeife-13318.jpg

[Peyrol]

Here i always heard some bullshits like:

- "Io sono cittadino del mondo, non italiano" (i'm citizen of the world, not italian)
- "Loro fanno i lavori che gli italiani non vogliono più fare" (They do jobs we don't want to do)
- "Pagano le nostre pensioni" (they pay our pensions)
- "La mescolanza razziale crea gli individui migliori" (racemixing create better people)
- "Contribuiscono alla crescita economica" (Immigrants contribute to GDP growt)
- "L'islam è una religione di pace" (Islam is a religion of peace)
- "Mussolini era ebreo" (Mussolini was a jew)
- "Il comunismo in Italia non ha mai ucciso nessuno" (communism in Italy never killed anyone [False])
- "Senza gli immigrati la popolazione italiana si dimezzerà entro il 2100" (whithout immigrants, we will halve by 2100)

[Peyrol]

Ah, the better one....

"i negri sono superiori fisicamente a noi" (blacks are physically superior than us) :lol::lol::lol:

[Legion]

After arguing that Islam breeds extremists and violence like no other organised group ever has, this liberal said to me:

Why don't you just admit that you're a bigot and make this easier for all of us?

Clearly, saying anything negative about Islam in liberal dominated areas is taboo. It's still perfectly acceptable to badmouth other religions. They have a hard-on for Islam since it's so nice and exotic unlike the evil west. Since both liberals and muslims share common enemies, they easily ally even with all the disagreements they would have on social issues.

Since we have a black muslim president, political correctness is naturally rampant. He even addresses the problem of "Islamophobia" in his speeches and how it's his duty to fight it :rolleyes:

[Stefan]

Here i always heard some bullshits like:

- "Io sono cittadino del mondo, non italiano" (i'm citizen of the world, not italian)

That is probably the worst of this thread. For the most part, much of what these people say is quite stupid, but ultimately harmless. That sentiment, is very destructive. How can one have a nation (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nation) if there is no patriotism? It certainly seems to be an effect of some undermining entity or progression of society.

[Peyrol]

That is probably the worst of this thread. For the most part, much of what these people say is quite stupid, but ultimately harmless. That sentiment, is very destructive. How can one have a nation (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nation) if there is no patriotism? It certainly seems to be an effect of some undermining entity or progression of society.

It is, especially because 65-70% of european states are nation-states...

[StonyArabia]

After arguing that Islam breeds extremists and violence like no other organised group ever has, this liberal said to me:

Why don't you just admit that you're a bigot and make this easier for all of us?

Well the liberal is correct, extremism is rather common in all religions and ideologies, and certainly Islam is no exception. Extremism are not the norm of any religion or ideology but the formula for it is found in every aspect of them, it just need the environment in which it can be lit. Most extremists Rracialist or Islamist and otherwise are often pyschological wrecks and come from dysfunctional families, they are looking to belong and are emotionally distrubed.

[Supreme American]

After arguing that Islam breeds extremists and violence like no other organised group ever has, this liberal said to me:

Why don't you just admit that you're a bigot and make this easier for all of us?

Only Christianity is allowed to be called an extremist-breeding religion.

[Supreme American]

Well the liberal is correct, extremism is rather common in all religions and ideologies, and certainly Islam is no exception. Extremism are not the norm of any religion or ideology but the formula for it is found in every aspect of them, it just need the environment in which it can be lit. Most extremists Rracialist or Islamist and otherwise are often pyschological wrecks and come from dysfunctional families, they are looking to belong and are emotionally distrubed.

True, because like with Muhammad, Jesus owned slaves and had his followers slice peoples' body parts off. :coffee::rolleyes:

[StonyArabia]

True, because like with Muhammad, Jesus owned slaves and had his followers slice peoples' body parts off. :coffee::rolleyes:

Extremism exist in all ideologies. In fact Christianity there are many passages that are violent. Just like some people who call themselves Christians and cherry pick what they want to support their ideology, this the same is true of a segment of Muslims who do. Just look at the CI who are nothing but Christian and Racist extremists.

[Supreme American]

Here i always heard some bullshits like:

- "Io sono cittadino del mondo, non italiano" (i'm citizen of the world, not italian)

Then ask for their world passport.



- "Loro fanno i lavori che gli italiani non vogliono più fare" (They do jobs we don't want to do)
- "Pagano le nostre pensioni" (they pay our pensions)

How can they when nearly all of them are so poor they qualify for welfare? Many also make so little money they pay little to no taxes.



- "La mescolanza razziale crea gli individui migliori" (racemixing create better people)

Racemixing destroys races. That's called genocide. Funny thing is that if you talk about invading and slaughtering a culture, it's called a crime. Mixing it away is "good."



- "Contribuiscono alla crescita economica" (Immigrants contribute to GDP growt)

So does slavery. Profit is not a reason to do something without considering consequences.



- "L'islam è una religione di pace" (Islam is a religion of peace)

That's an Islamic propaganda line and has no precedent in history.



- "Il comunismo in Italia non ha mai ucciso nessuno" (communism in Italy never killed anyone [False])

Whoever said that grew up under a rock.


- "Senza gli immigrati la popolazione italiana si dimezzerà entro il 2100" (whithout immigrants, we will halve by 2100)

Who cares if we do or don't? With immigrants we still halve, we've just imported our replacements instead of preserving ourselves and breeding more.

All of these responses are basically unoriginal and oft-parroted by the Left.

[Supreme American]

http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/108/565/17475600/friedenspfeife-13318.jpg

Self-loathing illustrated.

[Flintlocke]

Most extremists Rracialist or Islamist and otherwise are often pyschological wrecks and come from dysfunctional families, they are looking to belong and are emotionally distrubed.

That's the typical liberal party line. Not everyone wants to belong, many want to rule, to exert their will to power, to rise above the rest. In life you don't choose sides, they choose you, some are born to be what they are and have a prospect to become even greater.

[Supreme American]

Well the liberal is correct, extremism is rather common in all religions and ideologies, and certainly Islam is no exception. Extremism are not the norm of any religion or ideology but the formula for it is found in every aspect of them, it just need the environment in which it can be lit. Most extremists Rracialist or Islamist and otherwise are often pyschological wrecks and come from dysfunctional families, they are looking to belong and are emotionally distrubed.

Except for those who hate Jews, right?

If this isn't a psychological wreck, I don't know what is:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/lagergeld/normalpic20040415224319od5.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/lagergeld/enfantjihadww1.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/lagergeld/hamaswoman.jpg

[Supreme American]

That's the typical liberal party line. Not everyone wants to belong, many want to rule, to exert their will to power, to rise above the rest. In life you don't choose sides, they choose you, some are born to be what they are and have a prospect to become even greater.

That's rote party line brought to you by Morley Safer and the good folk at 60 Minutes.

[The Lawspeaker]

Self-loathing illustrated.
I want that pipe though. But only with the right kind of tobacco. ;)

[PetiteParisienne]

I know you are Jewish, Israel is at War with Muslims and Jews sometimes get targeted by Muslims and all but there are also other Jews who are for peace and dont say "Muslims are all Terrorists", there are conciliative Jews as well. I think Jews and Muslims should make peace, and save the World from more Trouble.


Who said anything about Judaism? Islam is a threat to Europe. I'll be ok with Islam once it stops birthing suicide bombers.

[Birka]

Government always does what's best for all.

[Supreme American]

I want that pipe though. But only with the right kind of tobacco. ;)

Even if it's a Red attempt to kill off the White man?

[Supreme American]

Islam is a threat to Europe. I'll be ok with Islam once it stops birthing suicide bombers.

That's only part of the problem. They need to go home - all of them.

[The Lawspeaker]

Even if it's a Red attempt to kill off the White man?

It's the best drug we've ever found. :thumb001:

[Marino]

Who said anything about Judaism? Islam is a threat to Europe. I'll be ok with Islam once it stops birthing suicide bombers.

http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/war_in_europe01.shtml

Excerpt:


When the Christians grow too strong the Jews support the Muslims to weaken the Christians. When the Muslims grow too strong the Jews support the Christians to weaken the Muslims. They often support both sides too, if both sides are too strong, and they often do in secret. Christians then kill Muslims, and vice versa, whilst the Jews laugh safely in the background, profiting from it all.

[Jon Snow]

When the Christians grow too strong the Jews support the Muslims to weaken the Christians. When the Muslims grow too strong the Jews support the Christians to weaken the Muslims. They often support both sides too, if both sides are too strong, and they often do in secret. Christians then kill Muslims, and vice versa, whilst the Jews laugh safely in the background, profiting from it all.

The average Jew profits nothing from the rise of Islam; by contrast, the prospect of Muslim hegemony poses them a grave threat. In fact, I can think of nothing the average Jew would want less.

Of course, there are bankers, politicians, and other disingenuous characters playing both sides of any conflict, and I'm sure a lot of them are Jews. But the actions of the extremely wealthy and powerful of any given ethnicity are by definition not representative of the group dynamics as a whole. If they were, we could just as readily sit here and blame Anglos for the multicultural mess we're in, but I don't see anybody doing that.


On topic, almost everything the typical liberal believes in regard to race, culture and ethnicity is otherworldly in its stupidity. It's hard to pick just one, but a recent discussion at a friend's family gathering became a bit heated when two white Obama supporters (a man and a woman, both middle-aged), expressed their delight at the prospect of a white-minority America.

I informed them politely that I considered racial diversity to be a weakness rather than a strength, but that I respected their opinions and would be curious as to why exactly they thought it would be a good thing. They both immediately began to speak, but before they got more than a word or two out, I interjected jokingly: "Please, just don't tell me how sit here and tell me how great 'ethnic' food is."

They both stopped speaking midsentence--the woman's mouth hung open a bit, and the man began with an "umm..." that trailed off into nothing.

I managed to tell them with a straight face that their compelling argument had given me much to think about, and then took my leave. :D

[Mortimer]

Who said anything about Judaism? Islam is a threat to Europe. I'll be ok with Islam once it stops birthing suicide bombers.

"Islam" is not a Threat to Europe. Too many Third World Immigrants are, be they Christian,Atheist or Muslim - because they will replace the native Population. The Suicide Bombers are because the West lead by the Zionist Politics, mistreats the Muslims in their own Countries and has a Colonial Mentality towards them. I dont support extremist Muslims World Dominacy Plans but also not the Zionist "I want to steal your Oil" NWO. Im for Peaceful Solutions.

[PetiteParisienne]

"Islam" is not a Threat to Europe. Too many Third World Immigrants are, be they Christian,Atheist or Muslim - because they will replace the native Population. The Suicide Bombers are because the West lead by the Zionist Politics, mistreats the Muslims in their own Countries and has a Colonial Mentality towards them. I dont support extremist Muslims World Dominacy Plans but also not the Zionist "I want to steal your Oil" NWO. Im for Peaceful Solutions.

Tell that to the Muslims who are demanding to turn Buckingham Palace into a Mosque. Tell that the the family members of victims of the 777 bombings. Tell that to women like me, who get harassed in the street by Muslim men AND women.

[PetiteParisienne]

http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/war_in_europe01.shtml

Excerpt:

I would dance arse-naked in the street if I never had to see another Muslim again.

[Marino]

Of course, there are bankers, politicians, and other disingenuous characters playing both sides of any conflict, and I'm sure a lot of them are Jews. But the actions of the extremely wealthy and powerful of any given ethnicity are by definition not representative of the group dynamics as a whole.

The important thing to see is that the actions and ways of thinking of the elite do not rain down from heaven but are based upon biology. These ways of thinking and acting are rooted in the dominant character traits of the groups we are talking about. These dominant character traits, in their milder, more commonly spread forms and intensities, may not be a problem for other groups, but they become a considerable issue when their development exceeds certain boundaries in certain individuals who, also by virtue of the strong dominance of certain traits we are talking about here, tend to strongly aspire a position of wealth and power in any given social context. This should not be neglected.

As I said before, the most problematic issue is the degeneration of the merchant-character typical for the more reduced, urbanised Armenids or Armeno-Alpinoids, even more so, if it's combined with Nordoid, "Anglo-Saxon" performance ethics and values. This combination, if it was accomplished in a good way dominated by Nordoid, "German" values, could be a good one, even if it was already problematic in se. However, what happens in reality is far worse: In reality, not only a combination of the most valuable traits of each group is arranged, but the Nordoid strive for performance and excellence in what they do, no matter what it is, is exploited by a plutocratic elite (or oligarchy). This plutocratic elite does not only consist of Jews, you're right, but only of Anglosaxons (in the broader sense of the term), the two centers of their realm being the City and London on one hand and Wall Street and Washington on the other. These people care only for their very own interests and the interests of their clan. They don't care about the general population or such constructs as European ethnicities or countries, nations. They just use them as masks, as legal entities in their manipulative machinery, that's where they are still useful for them, what goes beyond that, they don't give a shit.

Additionally, their sick way of thinking is not considered sick anymore by a vast majority of Europeans nowadays as it has become the leading paradigm of Western societies even against their innermost convictions and - probably more important - against their own vital interests.

There once was another member of this forum who could explain that far more compellingly than I can, but he seems to be gone. So is freedom of speech in Europe.

I don't advocate persecution or demonization of "the Jews". As you said correctly, one can hardly generalize here. However, there is a good reason that no German philosopher, neither Schopenhauer nor Nietzsche, did like the Jews even if they occasionally attributed great talent - Nietzsche even spoke about the "moral genius" of the Jewish folk - to them, not only their great talent to convince - because they had to - by reason and logic comprehensible to every sound mind. For instance, Schopenhauer argued that the Jews should be accorded equal civil legal rights, but should not be participate in affairs regarding the public, the res publica, because they already are an ethnicity in themselves. He cites an example - somewhere in Parerga et Paralipomena - of a Jew, an English citizen, who finds two men in a desperate situation in Lissabon. One of the two men in despair is English, but a Christian. The other man is Portuguese, but a Jew. Whom of the two will the English Jew help? Schopenhauer answers the question by saying something like: "The answer is obvious, and that's why the Jews should never have any power in any European political system."


I would dance arse-naked in the street if I never had to see another Muslim again.

I personally would, for various reasons, not go that far, but why shouldn't you? :thumb001:

Islam is probably even less European than Judaism is, and especially the presence of bearded nightgown wearers on European soil is an offence to the eye of the beholder.

However, you can be against Islam for different reasons. The reason, why the plutocratic oligarchy is against Islam and Islamic presence in Europe is not only the conflict between Israel and its neighbours or the Arabic world in general, but also the fact that Moslems - because of their value system totally different from the European value system based on performance and work - can not that easily be controlled, put to "good" use and exploited by the plutocratic oligarchy.

Why are you harrassed by Muslim men AND women when one does not see that you are Jewish? Just because you're fair skinned redhead? Maybe I live in an area still too "privileged", but I don't understand that.

[Hess]

"I am fucking Left wing not a Communist. They were almost as bad as the Nazis were." (Lame!)

lame but true, I think.

Communists and Nazis are two sides of the same coin. They may have slightly different goals, but their means are identical: a bureaucratic police state that deals out "social justice" in whatever way it deems fit and kills/imprisons anyone who dares to disagree with its thuggish tactics.

[PetiteParisienne]

Why are you harrassed by Muslim men AND women when one does not see that you are Jewish? Just because you're fair skinned redhead? Maybe I live in an area still too "privileged", but I don't understand that.

They'll harass any Westerner. I've been harassed on the street as well as in Heathrow Airport.

[Pretan]

lame but true, I think.

Communists and Nazis are two sides of the same coin. They may have slightly different goals, but their means are identical: a bureaucratic police state that deals out "social justice" in whatever way it deems fit and kills/imprisons anyone who dares to disagree with its thuggish tactics.

Communists were worse than Nazis, just look (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor) at what they did to the Ukraine in their attempt to crush Ukrainian Nationalism.

[Hess]

Communists were worse than Nazis, just look (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor) at what they did to the Ukraine in their attempt to crush Ukrainian Nationalism.

The Holodomor is a disgusting and often overlooked example of Soviet insanity, but how do the Nazis fare in the mass slaughter department?

For starters, they waged a campaign of extermination against ethnic Poles, killing at least 2 million.

They also committed (http://members.iinet.net.au/~gduncan/massacres.html) countless atrocities against West Europeans.

[sturmwalkure]

Communists were worse than Nazis, just look (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor) at what they did to the Ukraine in their attempt to crush Ukrainian Nationalism.


The Holodomor is a disgusting and often overlooked example of Soviet insanity, but how do the Nazis fare in the mass slaughter department?

For starters, they waged a campaign of extermination against ethnic Poles, killing at least 2 million.

They also committed (http://members.iinet.net.au/~gduncan/massacres.html) countless atrocities against West Europeans.

Neither side were angels. It was war. I could also mention the Allied extermination of Germans in Eastern-European countries. The thought of the Holodomor makes me sick as well. I am angered at the thought of it. So many of our people were either exterminated by ethnic cleansing or sent off to die in a brother war within the past century.

[The Lawspeaker]

Neither side were angels. It was war. I could also mention the Allied extermination of Germans in Eastern-European countries.
And if you say that in a way as if it was o.k for the Germans to shoot Dutch, French, Belgians, Yugoslavs, Greeks, Poles, Czechs, Italians, Norwegians, British&American POW's, Russians etc. etc. But shooting and displacing Germans was the only crime ?

[sturmwalkure]

And if you say that in a way as if it was o.k for the Germans to shoot Dutch, French, Belgians, Yugoslavs, Greeks, Poles, Czechs, Italians, Norwegians, British&American POW's, Russians etc. etc. But shooting and displacing Germans was the only crime ?

Not at all. I said the Nazis were not angels either, as were the Soviets. That war brought out the collective worst in our people and a lot of innocents in all European countries were killed. None of the deaths were justified in that case, and like I said neither were the deaths of the many millions of men who went to war against brother nations just to perish on the soil of Europe and in the end for their once noble glorious nations cultures and peoples to be replaced by disastrous consumerism, Liberalism, and mass immigration. The whole war was a disaster and a tragedy for all Europeans no matter who did the killing to who. It was fratricide if I can say.

[Stefan]

Italians

I didn't know about this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Acqui_Division). That is more than just a war, in my opinion. At most they should have kept them prisoner until it ended, but killing them? That is vengeance against a political figure. It was not the soldiers' choice what their politicians decided, and they shouldn't have paid for it, especially when they were fighting alongside the Germans as long as their government told them to. That is quite sad. :cry2

[The Lawspeaker]

I didn't know about this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Acqui_Division). That is more than just a war, in my opinion. At most they should have kept them prisoner until it ended, but killing them? That is vengeance against a political figure. It was not the soldiers' choice what their politicians decided, and they shouldn't have paid for it, especially when they were fighting alongside the Germans as long as their government told them to. That is quite sad. :cry2

Finns too. They burned down half of Lapland.

[Marmie Dearest]

One day I criticized the Islamic religion in my blog, and a liberal said to me that it was dispicable and pretty much the very definition of racism.

Well, no, actually sir, it's the definition of criticizing a religion, not a race.

[Pretan]

The Holodomor is a disgusting and often overlooked example of Soviet insanity, but how do the Nazis fare in the mass slaughter department?

For starters, they waged a campaign of extermination against ethnic Poles, killing at least 2 million.

They also committed (http://members.iinet.net.au/~gduncan/massacres.html) countless atrocities against West Europeans.

I never mentioned the Soviets, I'm talking about Communism in general. Which in the USSR and Maoist China was responsible for the deaths of around 90 million people.

[Sikeliot]

I was once called closed-minded because I said that although I believe abortion should be a matter of personal choice, it disgusts me when it is used as birth control (whoops, I got pregnant again, time to abort for the eighth time!) That's my opinion.. how is it closed-minded?

[sturmwalkure]

A Liberal once told me "Congratulations! You are an SS Officer." when I mentioned how I was upset about the demographic invasion of Europe by non-Whites. :D

[The Lawspeaker]

I am worried too. So does that make me, generally a leftwinger, an SS-officer too ? I never knew that the SS was an organisation for people with a wide variety of political ideologies.

[sturmwalkure]

I am worried too. So does that make me, generally a leftwinger, an SS-officer too ?

I guess so. :D

[The Lawspeaker]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bEBzZgZ5Tmc/SMdx34y1zdI/AAAAAAAAK60/QAbx-KUscE4/s400/ss+jacket.jpg

It doesn't look too bad on me then.

[sturmwalkure]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bEBzZgZ5Tmc/SMdx34y1zdI/AAAAAAAAK60/QAbx-KUscE4/s400/ss+jacket.jpg

It doesn't look too bad on me then.

Honestly anyone looks good in one of those uniforms. They were ultra stylish!

[Melina]

I am worried too. So does that make me, generally a leftwinger, an SS-officer too ? I never knew that the SS was an organisation for people with a wide variety of political ideologies.

Just another way liberals want to manipulate others to think that only the liberal ideology is the right ideology.

[The Lawspeaker]

Honestly anyone looks good in one of those uniforms. They were ultra stylish!

Aye. I actually think that the Dutch army should adopt them and just use the regular Dutch insignia. So instead of the SS cuff something like "Garderegiment Grenadiers en Jagers". And instead of the skull on the cap the regimental insignia used on the beret with a crown above it. :thumb001:

[sturmwalkure]

Just another way liberals want to manipulate others to think that only the liberal ideology is the right ideology.

They are only tolerant of people with the same viewpoints as they have. Such people are the true Fascists in my opinion.

[Stefan]

You guys are quite brave with your political conversations. I don't bother with it outside the internet. I notice it can ruin otherwise good friendships. People get very serious about such matters, and of course I don't like confrontations. Plus, many people are quite ignorant about history and politics. Maybe I should express my beliefs more outwardly though, it might just change a few people's minds, which would certainly be worth the crap I'd get for my beliefs.

The deepest I've gotten into a political conversation was when I told my friend, "I don't like the cultural elements of most black people." She said, " I agree!" :D Then we didn't follow up with it after that, just in case we'd say something "racist" and get in trouble (we were at school.)

[Jon Snow]

The important thing to see is that the actions and ways of thinking of the elite do not rain down from heaven but are based upon biology. These ways of thinking and acting are rooted in the dominant character traits of the groups we are talking about. These dominant character traits, in their milder, more commonly spread forms and intensities, may not be a problem for other groups, but they become a considerable issue when their development exceeds certain boundaries in certain individuals who, also by virtue of the strong dominance of certain traits we are talking about here, tend to strongly aspire a position of wealth and power in any given social context. This should not be neglected.

As I said before, the most problematic issue is the degeneration of the merchant-character typical for the more reduced, urbanised Armenids or Armeno-Alpinoids, even more so, if it's combined with Nordoid, "Anglo-Saxon" performance ethics and values. This combination, if it was accomplished in a good way dominated by Nordoid, "German" values, could be a good one, even if it was already problematic in se. However, what happens in reality is far worse: In reality, not only a combination of the most valuable traits of each group is arranged, but the Nordoid strive for performance and excellence in what they do, no matter what it is, is exploited by a plutocratic elite (or oligarchy). This plutocratic elite does not only consist of Jews, you're right, but only of Anglosaxons (in the broader sense of the term), the two centers of their realm being the City and London on one hand and Wall Street and Washington on the other. These people care only for their very own interests and the interests of their clan. They don't care about the general population or such constructs as European ethnicities or countries, nations. They just use them as masks, as legal entities in their manipulative machinery, that's where they are still useful for them, what goes beyond that, they don't give a shit.

Additionally, their sick way of thinking is not considered sick anymore by a vast majority of Europeans nowadays as it has become the leading paradigm of Western societies even against their innermost convictions and - probably more important - against their own vital interests.

There once was another member of this forum who could explain that far more compellingly than I can, but he seems to be gone. So is freedom of speech in Europe.

I don't advocate persecution or demonization of "the Jews". As you said correctly, one can hardly generalize here. However, there is a good reason that no German philosopher, neither Schopenhauer nor Nietzsche, did like the Jews even if they occasionally attributed great talent - Nietzsche even spoke about the "moral genius" of the Jewish folk - to them, not only their great talent to convince - because they had to - by reason and logic comprehensible to every sound mind. For instance, Schopenhauer argued that the Jews should be accorded equal civil legal rights, but should not be participate in affairs regarding the public, the res publica, because they already are an ethnicity in themselves. He cites an example - somewhere in Parerga et Paralipomena - of a Jew, an English citizen, who finds two men in a desperate situation in Lissabon. One of the two men in despair is English, but a Christian. The other man is Portuguese, but a Jew. Whom of the two will the English Jew help? Schopenhauer answers the question by saying something like: "The answer is obvious, and that's why the Jews should never have any power in any European political system."

It's an intriguing perspective you have, and I'll be the first to admit that you make several good points in addition to being clearly more knowledgeable on the subject than myself.

I suppose my major point of contention regards how much of the character traits ascribed to the above-referenced wealthy, powerful Jews is inborn and how much is a result of circumstance. Allow me to qualify my statement by saying that genetic realities are not something I need to be convinced of; indeed, every other post I make on here seems to involve extolling the virtues of a geneticist perspective or refuting arguments which deny the biological reality of race.

Still, I can't help but wonder how much of what people see as typically Jewish behavior is a result of millenia of being "Othered" by the various societies in which they found themselves. I mean, Ashkenazim cluster genetically with Southern Italians--on a biological level, how different from us could they really be?

Rather than the continued "Othering" of Jews--which, to a large degree, was historically predicated upon religious differences which are much less pronounced in the modern age--I would prefer to see the Jews embrace their European and Western heritage, and the West embrace them in return.

Benjamin Disraeli, a Jew and the former PM of the United Kingdom, once wrote: "Is it what you call civilization that makes England flourish? Is it the universal development of the faculties of man that has rendered an island, almost unknown to the ancients, the arbiter of the world? Clearly not. It is the inhabitants that have done this. It is an affair of race.… All is race, there is no other truth."

I don't see any reason why there can't be more Disraelis in this world. :)

[CelticViking]

"All nose shapes are the same but some people just pick their noses when they are younger which makes their noses bigger when they are adult"

[Piper]

"All nose shapes are the same but some people just pick their noses when they are younger which makes their noses bigger when they are adult"

:eek:

Some never grow up at all, apparently, and end up spewing nonsense like the above quoted. The mind boggles!

[sturmwalkure]

"All nose shapes are the same but some people just pick their noses when they are younger which makes their noses bigger when they are adult"

Did the person who said that accidentally pick out their brain matter than their nose matter? :D

[Mark Trail]

That all guns should be confiscated because they are offensive to feminists. Yeah, go figure.

[Defiance]

Pretty much everything these assholes say strikes me as pitifully retarded. One interesting case was when, after bringing up The Color of Crime to a group of anti-Racialists, I was scoffed at and basically accused of providing faulty and fallacious sources; being told that Blacks get arrested more, but don't actually commit any more crime than Whites do. After pushing things a bit more, someone responds by telling me - without missing a beat and apparently without remembering their previously contradictory argument - that the only reason Blacks commit so much crime is because they're so "oppressed;" in other words, it's Whitey's fault.:eusa_doh:

Now by the way.......


As I said before, the most problematic issue is the degeneration of the merchant-character typical for the more reduced, urbanised Armenids or Armeno-Alpinoids, even more so, if it's combined with Nordoid, "Anglo-Saxon" performance ethics and values. This combination, if it was accomplished in a good way dominated by Nordoid, "German" values, could be a good one, even if it was already problematic in se. However, what happens in reality is far worse: In reality, not only a combination of the most valuable traits of each group is arranged, but the Nordoid strive for performance and excellence in what they do, no matter what it is, is exploited by a plutocratic elite (or oligarchy).
What the hell did I just read???

[sturmwalkure]

Oh... some Austrian I used to write with on the internet told me how she is going to do Ramadan next year. :confused: As you can guess I didn't talk to her since. Sadly a lot of her uprooted self-hating friends thought it was a good idea too. :(

[Han Cholo]

The left have learned that capitalism as a vehicle to undermine society is not only successful, but lucrative. Left messages, as I said, dominate scripts coming out of Hollyweird. True Marxists would probably consider them useful idiots at best, but they're spreading the same anti-Western ideological message. The cultural aspect is a huge part of the Left; they promote anything from homosexuals exposing themselves in public to every other kind of countercultural movement. Anything to dissolve the traditional mainstream and present an ideological alternative. ALL of that comes from the political left.

You are not seeing things for what they are. That's the collective American mental degeneracy, not left wing being pushed.










Capitalist and right wing aren't attached at the hip. There is a segment of the academic left that embraces capitalism but invokes Marxist class conflict theory in aspects of race, culture, and law.

They generally are basically the same where I live. And by capitalism I mean an uncontrolled capitalism, more multinationals than locals, etc... bad market competition.









I've never read much of the Mexican left in general, outside a very small portion of Subcomandante Marcos. The basis of his argument seems to be one I see very commonly on the left, which is that if the poorest of the world live as they do, it's the fault of the Other. Without the Other oppressing them, they'd not be in their condition, which of course, is totally false.

Comandante Marcos is more a clown than a representative of the Left. The left's presidential candidate has nothing to do with him. Marcos is not a politician, he's just some idealistic rebel.



Btw, as far as Marcos goes, he's like Che Guevara: A person of white European ancestry born in the area to immigrants who exposed in his youth to Marxist or similar leftist garbage, then developed a self-hatred for his ancestors and began to champion backward tribes and everyone else viewed as being as part of the have-nots. He has what we would call in the US "white guilt."

Marcos is likely not any significantly more European than the average Northern Mexican (he's originally from Tamaulipas.)

[Supreme American]

The average Jew profits nothing from the rise of Islam; by contrast, the prospect of Muslim hegemony poses them a grave threat. In fact, I can think of nothing the average Jew would want less.

If you get Chaim Potok's Wanderings: A History of the Jews, and read in the Islam section, you'll see they aided the Muslims in invading Spain because they didn't like living under Christian rule. They have often gained from the rise of Islam in history, especially in Europe. To this day, European Jews and Muslims are allying against the native Europeans.

[Lithium]

I can't define what does that mean :
"You are so pale, you must be a racist"

[Supreme American]

You are not seeing things for what they are. That's the collective American mental degeneracy, not left wing being pushed.

Hollywood in the 50s and onward was all but openly Marxist. Many of them were blacklisted as Commies for good reason. Marxists with Soviet aid were heavily involved in the "peace" movements and counterculture movements as well. This has come out in old Soviet archives. It is a generally left-turn in our culture. There is a big difference from a regional interpretation of traditional Leftism in a country like Mexico or Venezuela than there is in the ideological purists that much of their influence comes from.



They generally are basically the same where I live. And by capitalism I mean an uncontrolled capitalism, more multinationals than locals, etc... bad market competition.

I think expressions of uncontrolled capitalism are more a result of playing holes in the system than people gathering to promote an unregulated market. Of course there are those who promote an unregulated market, and I view them in 2 general categories: Corporate bandits and idiots.



Comandante Marcos is more a clown than a representative of the Left. The left's presidential candidate has nothing to do with him. Marcos is not a politician, he's just some idealistic rebel.

IMO that's what much of the left are, especially those on the left who go into counter-culture activism and trashing everything their ancestors ever stood for. This mentality is very common in US colleges.

I agree; Marcos is an idealistic idiot who never grew up. He views the world from the way his Marxist teachers taught him to rather than looking at things at themselves.



Marcos is likely not any significantly more European than the average Northern Mexican (he's originally from Tamaulipas.)

I have read that his parents were immigrants from Spain, and thus considering the history of his ancestors combined with his ideology and his experience with traditional Indian ways of living, I thought it likely what I would call "white guilt" played a role in making him who he has become. The funniest part of it is that he is doing what so many on the Left have done which is see how traditional societies live, and in taking a cultural chauvinistic viewpoint, viewing those ways as necessarily in need of improvement specifically. Funniest part of it is that this moron is apparently a Maoist and as such it's doubly hilarious to me he is bitching. Maoists prefer agrarian societies, anyway, so what's the problem?

[Supreme American]

I can't define what does that mean :
"You are so pale, you must be a racist"

It means if you're white, you're a racist by default. It's one of the foundational beliefs of the critical theory/white studies crowd that have heavily influenced the Left in general.

Now of course, it's deliciously Orwellian. The same people would never say that being brown made you a head hunter or cannibal by default.

[Quorra]

"Our society...(fill in the blank)"



Because non-western societies are so liberal:rolleyes:

[Moonbird]

"We are all immigrants"

[Óttar]

This wasn't from a mainstream Liberal but a radical feminist communist. And I paraphrase:

'The Romans were dead white men, who didn't respect multiculturalism' or some such bunk.

:rolleyes2:

She was obviously ignorant of certain facts such as, (1) Romans wouldn't have identified as 'White' or have even known what she was talking about, (2) Romans didn't know the concept of 'multiculturalism' as such, and (3) the Roman Empire was one of the first examples of a multi-ethnic political entity.

[Legion]

"Unless you're Native American, you have no right to complain about illegal immigrants!"

[Stefan]

"Unless you're Native American, you have no right to complain about illegal immigrants!"

I hate this one so much. They don't understand the concept of a nation, and it is so obvious. Ah ignorance like that can be so enraging. Their voting privileges should be revoked. Actually, there should be an obligatory test to gain voting privileges. If you pass it, you can vote, if not, you must educate yourself if you want to vote. :)

[Quorra]

My lovely mother-"I would love to have aboriginal in me":love::crazy:

[Stefan]

My lovely mother-"I would love to have aboriginal in me":love::crazy:

This happens in the U.S with Native Americans.

I think that is a response to this



"Unless you're Native American, you have no right to complain about illegal immigrants!"

They want to justify their placement in to the former colonies.

[Melina]

"Unless you're Native American, you have no right to complain about illegal immigrants!"

It is funny because :

1) Most people who say that are liberals or illegals who want to justify being here illegally. Plus illegal immigrants mostly Mexicans does not mean they are native American descendants.

2) People here are not very educated and don't understand the fact that vikings settled in the northern part of the U.S.

[Smaug]

"Unless you're Native American, you have no right to complain about illegal immigrants!"

Bloody hell, in Brazil we have the same shit!
"The real Brazilians are the indigenous peoples, like the Tupi-Guarani. You descendants of immigrants are the invaders."
And worse, teachers teach it on schools! And it is always a mixed one! And the white kids have to listen to it and remain in silence, otherwise they will be labeled as racists! :mad:

[Supreme American]

"Unless you're Native American, you have no right to complain about illegal immigrants!"

We'll wait for you to explain the 9,000 year old Florida bog mummies with European DNA, as well as the Clovis artifacts of European origin that date back about 12,000 years.

Party-line leftism will get you nowhere, troll.

[Quorra]

What do they say in Europe? We all came from africa?

[Drawing-slim]

What do they say in Europe? We all came from africa? Bono doesn't represent all europeans.

[Nameless Son]

"What a dull world it would be if we were all white.""

What ever did ancient europeans do before they knew there were other races? They must have been so bored!

[MarkyMark]

"Hey"

I thought it was pretty retarded considering 'Hey' is the only thing retards say to me if they come near me, other than the other gibberish they mumble.

[Mago]

It is funny because :

1) Most people who say that are liberals or illegals who want to justify being here illegally. Plus illegal immigrants mostly Mexicans does not mean they are native American descendants.

2) People here are not very educated and don't understand the fact that vikings settled in the northern part of the U.S.

What were you drinking when you typed that...

hey listen up you half-a-brain morons, the point of who was here or there first does not matter, although a moot topic, it’s like the chicken and the egg dilemma. We are all the same fucked up humans, you morons don't get that, you are half the man your father used to be, we are raising a nation of sissies, don’t be a pacifist, fight up, stand up, they want to take our guns so that they have absolute control, out of my dead cold hands.

[Legion]

I still don't understand gives an "aboriginal" more right to land in the first place? Both white Americans and Amerindians were born as US nationals, and the Amerindian's ancestors came from somewhere else as well. Liberals always emphasize race when it comes to other ethnic groups. They may as well be the most racist group on Earth.

[Legion]

We'll wait for you to explain the 9,000 year old Florida bog mummies with European DNA, as well as the Clovis artifacts of European origin that date back about 12,000 years.

Party-line leftism will get you nowhere, troll.

I agree. The seas have always been accelerating migration rather than halting it. Polynesians spread across almost the entire pacific ocean. Trans-Atlantic movements from Europe to North America as possible. Even archaic caucasoids crossing Bering strait is plausible.

[Quorra]

What were you drinking when you typed that...

hey listen up you half-a-brain morons, the point of who was here or there first does not matter, although a moot topic, it’s like the chicken and the egg dilemma. We are all the same fucked up humans, you morons don't get that, you are half the man your father used to be, we are raising a nation of sissies, don’t be a pacifist, fight up, stand up, they want to take our guns so that they have absolute control, out of my dead cold hands.

You'd surrender instantly:D:D:D:D

[Legion]

"California, Arizona, NM, and Texas belong to Mexico!"

Or

"Mexico is backwards because we stole their land!"

This sort of thinking actually showed up a lot, especially during occupy movement. I initially supported OWS. It has, unfortunately, been hijacked by lunatics with this sort of mentality. Islamophilia, "fuck the white man", and other liberal infections also occupy OWS.

Last year I even saw a map on some news network that had Arizona shaded differently from the rest of US for the purpose of "blending" Mexico.

[TheNepenthe]

'Common cold is more dangerous than STDs(AIDS, HPV) '

[kabeiros]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5c3BBNMi7YQ/Tf9HivEFyvI/AAAAAAAATEc/0V5_3FCxHQo/s640/%25CE%25A0%25CE%2591%25CE%25A0%25CE%259F%25CE%25A5 %25CE%2594%25CE%259F%25CE%2593%25CE%259F%25CE%259D %25CE%2595%25CE%2599%25CE%25A3.jpg

Our grand-fathers were refugees
Our fathers were immigrants
We are racists???

A very common slogan of all lefties here in Greece... and although it has some truth in it, they always forget to mention that:

Our grand-fathers were refugees of Greek descent, who were accepted by the Greek state and exchanged with Turks from Greece.
Our fathers were legal immigrants, who were invited by the host countries where they migrated and they were tested by doctors there in order to be accepted.
We are not racists if we don't like the Third World scam that illegally invade our country and bring their disgusting habbits and diseases in Europe or the US.

[StonyArabia]

Now of course, it's deliciously Orwellian. The same people would never say that being brown made you a head hunter or cannibal by default.

Depending on what brown it is, if it's Middle Eastern Semite than it means terrorist by default actually.

http://s12.postimage.org/8w2dgr8e5/148qbup.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
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[Legion]

Associating terrorism with middle eastern immigrants is viewed as taboo here. You get the typical liberal response:

"OMFG you think all muslims are terrorists, shame on you bigot!"

[TheNepenthe]

'Money's not important' by European girl with an African-American, 2-3 years later I see her with 'cute little black babies' begging for money in the street