Subcultures - do you more or less fit into one?

[alfieb]

I'd say that while I have bits and pieces of a lot of things, I'm more or less a rocker. My typical weekend usually involves going to a bar (the shittier the better) and listening to cover bands play on Friday or Saturday. I've got a rebellious streak as long as my arm and don't care much for authority.

[Sikeliot]

Not really. At least not consistently.

[American_Hispanist]

If you define the electro/techno/house music crowd as a sub-culture here in the US, then I would fit in among them best, as I am a big fan of electro/techno/house music.

[Han Cholo]

Nope this American subculture stuff is a bit more fluid than in the USA.

[alfieb]

If you define the electro/techno/house music crowd as a sub-culture here in the US, then I would fit in among them best, as I am a big fan of electro/techno/house music.
I dabble in that scene as well, although I'm more or less a visitor rather than a member.

What drugs do you take? :laugh:

[American_Hispanist]

I dabble in that scene as well, although I'm more or less a visitor rather than a member.

I use to be in the alternative rock music crowd, but I got of it and got more into the electro crowd.


What drugs do you take? :laugh:

I currently don't use any drugs because I am looking for a job and the companies can do a random drug test on me when applying for a job, but if I didn't have that worry, I would be curious to try ecstasy, but many people here in the house-music clubs are wussies and don't use that shit. it's mostly more with the Europeans that I know who use ecstasy for the electronic crowd.

[alfieb]

Likewise, it was industrial/alternative that got me into EDM.

[American_Hispanist]

Likewise, it was industrial/alternative that got me into EDM.

I guess alternative is where everybody starts. For me, the band, Franz Ferdinand is what started everything for me. :D

[alfieb]

Rammstein for me.

Then, Rob Zombie, Marilyn Manson, and Nine Inch Nails.

Followed by Powerman 5000, Mushroomhead and Laibach.

And most of them get their songs remixed by EDM artists, and that crossover certainly helped.

I listen to electronic radio more often than anything else nowadays.

[American_Hispanist]

Rammstein for me.

Then, Rob Zombie, Marilyn Manson, and Nine Inch Nails.

Followed by Powerman 5000, Mushroomhead and Laibach.

And most of them get their songs remixed by EDM artists, and that crossover certainly helped.

I listen to electronic radio more often than anything else nowadays.

Rob Zombie and Nine Inch nails are good, but I didn't really get into them as much, but I would say though, I liked them better than a lot of the stuff that Green Day has made. and with electronic radio, over the past few years, it has been getting more and more popular here in the Bay Area, but what bothers me is that still, a lot of people don't really many know artists or DJs for electronic, like Tiesto. some people know David Guetta, Swedish House Mafia, and Avicii, but that's because they are the most popular.

[alfieb]

Green Day are godawful. They started off as a mediocre punk band and became pop music for teenagers that aren't ready for Eminem yet. :lol:

I like Swedish House Mafia and Tiesto, although my favorites are Deadmau5 and Glitch Mob. I'm not sure whether or not I'm a fan of Skrillex. It seems to vary from day-to-day.

[American_Hispanist]

Green Day are godawful. They started off as a mediocre punk band and became pop music for teenagers that aren't ready for Eminem yet. :lol:

For me, Green Day has some ok songs but most of them, I don't like them, they are too bland for me, or not my type.


I like Swedish House Mafia and Tiesto, although my favorites are Deadmau5 and Glitch Mob. I'm not sure whether or not I'm a fan of Skrillex. It seems to vary from day-to-day.

Deadmau5 is alright, except the songs of deadmau5, doesn't really get me into them, but Glitch Mob does. I really like Darube, but too bad they are kinda old, lol.

[American_Hispanist]

Steve Aoki (I wish I can go to Tomorrowland in Belgium to see him DJ there)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36zkP6HSLZw

[alfieb]

Aoki is a lot bigger over there than here. My cousin lives in LA and she's obsessed with him. Around here most of my friends aren't big on him. I've only heard a little myself.

[American_Hispanist]

Aoki is a lot bigger over there than here.

I didn't know that, lol. :lol: not that many people here know him, it's mostly a few middle-class kids like me who know Aoki is. :lol:


My cousin lives in LA and she's obsessed with him. Around here most of my friends aren't big on him. I've only heard a little myself.

How old is your cousin? :D

[Sikeliot]

I went through a goth phase.. hard to believe but I did!

[rhiannon]

If you define the electro/techno/house music crowd as a sub-culture here in the US, then I would fit in among them best, as I am a big fan of electro/techno/house music.Same here. Music is a HUGE part of who I am.

I'm quite a bit older than most who like electro/techno/house music, though. That made things somewhat interesting for me. Rave parties were awesome when I was able to actually go to one lol

Favorite bands in the electro genre are:

Mind in a Box
Sisters of Mercy
VNV Nation
NIN (Trent Reznor has my birthday heh heh heh)

When I was in my teens-late 20s, I was a lot like alfieb.....former high school stoner turned rocker who generally hated big brother and all that it represented.

But I've calmed a bit since then, and now VASTLY prefer EBM/Darkwave/Futurepop/Progressive Trance/House/90s dance music. Classic rock puts me to sleep most of the time anymore.

[Scholarios]

I went through a punk, skinhead, whatever phase in my younger days. Listening to Discharge, Skitkids, Totalitar, then British Oi!, hardcore, black metal, blackened crust. blah blah blah. Still put it on sometimes...

[Scholarios]

I went through a goth phase.. hard to believe but I did!


somehow i believe it.

[American_Hispanist]

Same here. I'm quite a bit older than most who like this style of music, though. Rave parties were awesome when I was able to actually go to one lol

lol. sometimes, i feel lonely because even though electro is gaining popularity, slowly, it's still way more popular in Europe and parts of South America than here in North America. Hip-hop still dominates my age group, although that's slowly changing,

[alfieb]

How old is your cousin? :D
20. Pretty. Not rich, but close to it. Major case of stoner. Has a boyfriend.

[American_Hispanist]

good luck finding a big group of people here in the US who are into this music like me (this specific song, the Spanish girl I really liked introduced it to me) :lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qv5gY5iiCA

[rhiannon]

lol. sometimes, i feel lonely because even though electro is gaining popularity, slowly, it's still way more popular in Europe and parts of South America than here in North America. Hip-hop still dominates my age group, although that's slowly changing,Europeans have far better taste in music than your average American will. Most of the bands I listen to are actually European themselves, especially Northern European.

[American_Hispanist]

20. Pretty. Not rich, but close to it. Major case of stoner. Has a boyfriend.

That right there, my friend, is a typical California girl. if she is pretty, then she is taken and if she's ugly, she's most likely single, although I have seen lots of desperate guys (average looking most of the time) here with some ugly bitches, and if they went to some EE country, they would be scoring a minimum of 7s, easily. and the stoner, also typical. believe it or not, lots of chicks smoke weed here. :lol:

[alfieb]

That right there, my friend, is a typical California girl. if she is pretty, then she is taken and if she's ugly, she's most likely single, although I have seen lots of desperate guys (average looking most of the time) here with some ugly bitches, and if they went to some EE country, they would be scoring a minimum of 7s, easily. and the stoner, also typical. believe it or not, lots of chicks smoke weed here. :lol:
Well, she grew up in New Jersey and Texas and only moved to California a few years ago, but her and her brother really adopted the SoCal lifestyle pretty damn fast. I think she's modeling and he's an aspiring actor. They're both good looking, so I guess they lucked out.

[American_Hispanist]

Europeans have far better taste in music than your average American will. Most of the bands I listen to are actually European themselves, especially Northern European.

I agree with that. typically, europeans have better taste in music and know more about music than an average american, who either only knows shitty hip-hop artists or some stupid pop-singer who can barely sing without autotune.

[Sikeliot]

By and large Americans don't know anything about good music anymore. We haven't since the 90s :lol:

[American_Hispanist]

Well, she grew up in New Jersey and Texas and only moved to California a few years ago, but her and her brother really adopted the SoCal lifestyle pretty damn fast. I think she's modeling and he's an aspiring actor. They're both good looking, so I guess they lucked out.

I have lived in California all of my life, and I still have to adopt to the typical lifestyle here (smoking a shitload of weed). i hope they don't get materialistic superficial like many so-cal people, as that's what so-cal is very much known for and is.

[American_Hispanist]

By and large Americans don't know anything about good music anymore. We haven't since the 90s :lol:

I have nobody to blame. All I can say is I am disappointed with how many people my age like listening to garbage here. whenever I go to a club, typically, the electro/house crowd is more refined and less trashy than the hip-hop crowd (it's disgusting to see how badly dressed so many of the girls in the hip-hop crowd are).

[alfieb]

I have lived in California all of my life, and I still have to adopt to the typical lifestyle here (smoking a shitload of weed). i hope they don't get materialistic superficial like many so-cal people, as that's what so-cal is very much known for and is.
I think they already have. I haven't seen either of them since they were teenagers, but my parents saw them a few months ago and said they were extreme-left hippie stoner types. :lol:

I think she went to Burning Man last year. What subculture is that? A friend of mine who moved to San Francisco goes every year, and he's a (legal) pot dealer, so I'd imagine drug culture is heavily involved.

[rhiannon]

I have lived in California all of my life, and I still have to adopt to the typical lifestyle here (smoking a shitload of weed). i hope they don't get materialistic superficial like many so-cal people, as that's what so-cal is very much known for and is.You know I grew up in so cal myself :) Where have you lived? I grew up in the San PORNando Valley:wink My father lived in Malibu so either I hung out in the Valley or at the Beach.

I lived there until I was 21, then moved to the Pacific Northwest (for the trees and the climate). I prefer your average california person to your average northwesterner BY FAR!

[American_Hispanist]

You know I grew up in so cal myself :) Where have you lived? I grew up in the San PORNando Valley:wink My father lived in Malibu so either I hung out in the Valley or at the Beach.

I have lived all of my life in the bay area, pothead/liberal central for the USA. as a kid, i was around semi-ghetto people because I use to live close to Oakland, but then I moved 1 hour north, close to Napa, and I got surrounded by a bunch of middle-class white boys who were into alternative rock. :lol:


I lived there until I was 21, then moved to the Pacific Northwest (for the trees and the climate). I prefer your average california person to your average northwesterner BY FAR!

your average north-westerner isn't as superficial as your californian but they are far more introverted, gray, and boring than your californian. honestly, the people here in northern california are friendly but it's a terrible place for a night-life, by world standards. :lol:

[alfieb]

I could never live in Seattle/Portland. I get the perception that it's just as loony left as California but nowhere near as fun.

[American_Hispanist]

I could never live in Seattle/Portland. I get the perception that it's just as loony left as California but nowhere near as fun.

well, those places are good for going to skiing in the winter, as the cascades are very close to you. however, in winter, you never see the sun, all you see if nothing but gray and rain which is why Seattle is usually the most depressing city in the US. here in california, the sun even comes out during the winter.

[rhiannon]

I could never live in Seattle/Portland. I get the perception that it's just as loony left as California but nowhere near as fun.Passive-Aggressive Hipster Doofus central. It's AWFUL. If it weren't for the fact it's so pretty and mild up here, I'd have left long ago. Nearly every person I've ever made any lasting friendship with is originally from somewhere else. The natives here are really fucked up and awful to deal with IMO.

BTW....Portland is fun. It's Seattle I am referring to. I lived in Portland for five years and never had the same issues with the natives as I've had here.

[American_Hispanist]

Passive-Aggressive Hipster Doofus central. It's AWFUL. If it weren't for the fact it's so pretty and mild up here, I'd have left long ago. Nearly every person I've ever made any lasting friendship with is originally from somewhere else. The natives here are really fucked up and awful to deal with IMO.

BTW....Portland is fun. It's Seattle I am referring to. I lived in Portland for five years and never had the same issues with the natives as I've had here.

Portland is awesome. i really like it there. and washington, can't say much because I haven't been to Seattle, but all my friends tell me to avoid that place, as it's full of weird people (it has even more weird people than SF, which is a bad sign).

[Oneeye]

Shame on you guys for talking about Industrial and not mentioning Ministry.

West of the Cascades is a very grey, rainy, and liberal climate.;) We visit Estacada once or twice a year to help out family with a business, and shopping in the surrounding area leaves me feeling antsy with all those weirdos.

That said, many of my friends came from California, and my dad lived in L.A. as a kid before moving up here, though I'm "NW native" with the rest of my family.

Trying to think of locally made music that I like, but Cascade style black metal SUCKS. At least Soundgarden and Alice in Chains have put out good albums recently.

I actually like that Electronixx song. I've been wanting to give techno a chance, since some of my friends have been listening to dubstep, but most I've found is either not edgy enough, (musically, not just throwing in some swearing...) or too close to hip hop for me to enjoy. I enjoy the hypnotic, trance inducing monotonous style, but find it hard not to get a cheesy grin over the beeps and boops... It needs distorted guitar damn it. ;) Skrillex sounds like Transformer porn to me.

I'd listen to techno, if it had brooding aggression like this:

http://youtu.be/pHEj5xWISKw

[Smaug]

No.

[Vesuvian Sky]

kinda the whole metal head thing but not exactly...I was always instinctively attracted to that kinda of music but never really lived the associated "lifestyle" to 100%.

I still play tons of guitar though and metal tons back in the day though I've moved on to another genre...

[Mark]

PDX is #1.

[Grenzland]

No and I don't want to be a part of a subculture.

I do my own thing and I can listen to any music I want. Subcultures are for teenagers.

[alfieb]

Ewwwww, new Alice in Chains. Oneeye, for shame.

http://cdn.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/alice.jpg

That is not Layne Staley. :mad:

[Oneeye]

Ewwwww, new Alice in Chains. Oneeye, for shame.

http://cdn.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/alice.jpg

That is not Layne Staley. :mad:

It's Layne Stanley's brother of another mother.

Yeah, ok, you're right, but I still like their latest album.

[kabeiros]

No and I don't want to be a part of a subculture.

I do my own thing and I can listen to any music I want. Subcultures are for teenagers. Yeap, I had my rock period at my early teens (13-16), then I took part in some techno/trance parties and festivals and I still listen to those styles of music... but the older I get, the more I like Greek traditional music (the real deal) and rebetika. I enjoyed going out to a taverna and listening live rebetika more than in any rock concert or psy trance party that I have been to in the last five years. Guess I'm getting old....

[Kazimiera]

I was a hardcore Goth girl. Before Goth became mainstream.

[riverman]

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