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Szegedist
08-22-2013, 07:30 PM
Etymology
Lets start with the etymology. Where does the name “Transylvania” come from?
According to Romanians, it sounds Latin, so it is of Romanian origins, but the truth could not be different.

Hungary was founded as a Catholic Kingdom, with Latin as it's official language, so Hungarian chronicles in the Middle Ages were written in Latin.

The region of Transylvania was first refereed to as “ultra silvam”, which is Latin for “beyond the woods”, in a medieval Hungarian chronicle (written in Latin), 1075.

The term Partes Transsylvanć ("parts beyond the forest") dates from the same century (used in Legenda Sancti Gerhardi, and subsequently, as Transsilvania by Medieval Latin documents compiled in the Kingdom of Hungary).

It is here, where the modern name Transylvania comes from.

Another name for Transylvania is Erdély, which comes from Erdő-elve, meaning “in front of the woods”.
The Romanian name for Transylvania (Ardeal) is a phonetic copy of Erdély, and has no meaning whatsoever in the Romanian language.

There is a contradiction between Erdő-elve (on front of the woods) and ultra silvam(beyond the woods)

This is because Erdély comes from the Conquest Era, so the incoming Hungarians saw Transylvania to be in front of the woods (the woods in the Partium/Részek), while “Ultra Silvam” comes after the Kingdom was founded, and to the chronicles, Transylvania now lay beyond the woods.

Romanians have no name of their own for Transylvania.
Transylvania is of Latin origins, first used by Hungarians
Erdély/Ardeal is of Hungarian origins, first used by Hungarians
Siebenbürgen/Sedmigradsko/Sedmihradsko/etc is of German origins, comes from the Saxon Settlers.

Szegedist
08-22-2013, 07:46 PM
Examples of Hungarian cities in Transylvania

Nagyvárad- today so called “Oradea”
Nagyvarad dates back to a small 10th century castle, while its bishopric was founded during the 11th century by King Ladislaus I of Hungary. The first documented mention of its name was in 1113 under the Latin name Varadinum ("vár" means fortress in Hungarian).

The 14th century was one of the most prosperous periods in the city's life. Statues of St. Stephen, Emeric and Ladislaus (before 1372) and theequestrian sculptureofSt. Ladislaus(1390) were erected in Oradea. St. Ladislaus' fabled statue was the first proto-renaissance public square equestrian in Europe. Bishop Andreas Báthori (1329–1345) rebuilt the cathedral inGothicstyle. From thatepochdates also the Hermes, now preserved at Györ, which contains the skull of King Ladislaus, and which is a masterpiece of the Hungarian goldsmith's art

In the second half of the 19th century literary nicknames for the town included "Hungarian Compostela", "Felix civitas", "Paris on the River Pece", "the City of Tomorrow", "Athens on theKörös", and "the City of Yesterday". These nicknames are not widely used today, although "Paris on the River Pece" is still utilized sometimes.

Szegedist
08-22-2013, 10:06 PM
Marosvásárhely, or so called " Targu Mures"
The city was first documented in 1332 in the papal registry under the name Novum Forum Siculorum, and as Sekulvasarhel (Székelyvásárhely) in 1349. On the place of its Castle Church, the Dominican's church stood until the Mongol invasion, when it was destroyed. In its place, the Franciscans built a new Gothic church in 1260, which was completed in 1446. Since 1439 the town was the scene of the session of parliament (diet) 36 times.

In 1405, the King of Hungary Sigismund of Luxembourg granted the city the right to organize fairs. In 1470 King Matthias Corvinus granted the first judicial privilege to the city, and in 1482 declared the city a royal settlement.


http://www.vasarhely.ro/sites/default/files/site_files/kulturpalota_varoshaza.jpg

Szegedist
08-22-2013, 10:11 PM
Temesvár- today so called "Timisoara"

Temesvár was first mentioned as a place in either 1212 or 1266. The territory later to be known as Banat was conquered and annexed by the Kingdom of Hungary in 1030. Temesvár grew considerably during the reign of Károly I, who, upon his visit here in 1307, ordered the construction of a royal palace. Temesvár importance also grew due to its strategic location, which facilitated control over the Banat plain. John Hunyadi established a permanent military encampment here, and moved here together with his family. In 1552, a 16,000 Ottoman army conquered the city and transformed it into a capital city in the region. The local military commander, Stefan Losonczy, was captured and beheaded on July 27, 1552 after resisting the Ottoman invasion with just over 2,300 men.

http://www.turistderomania.ro/tdruplfiles/timisoara.jpg

Szegedist
08-22-2013, 10:23 PM
Nagybánya- today so called "Baia Mare"

Nagybánya is first mentioned in written documents released by Károly I of Hungary in 1328 under the name of Rivulus Dominarum (English: Ladies' River). In 1347 the town was identified in documents by Louis I of Hungary as an important medieval town with a prosperous mining industry. Its rules of organisation were characteristic of the "free towns" of that time. In 1411 the town and its surrounding areas, including the mines, were transferred into the property of the Hunyadi family by Sigismund, King of Hungary (later also Holy Roman Emperor), who recognised Janos Hunyadi's contribution to stop the Turkish invasion of Europe.

The town entered in a period of prosperity, during which the St. Stephen Cathedral was built. Today the cathedral tower is one of the best-known of the town's historic landmarks (see Stephen's Tower). The first school, named Schola Rivulina, was opened in Nagybánya in 1547 by the Reformed Church following the Protestant Reformation.

http://www.baiamareteam2013.rotaractmun.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/baia-mare1.png

Windischer
08-22-2013, 10:31 PM
Nagybánya- today so called "Baia Mare"

both mean the same - the great mine. especially baňa, such a nice slavic term for mine ;)

http://www.baiamareteam2013.rotaractmun.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/baia-mare1.png
that chimney... LOL

blogen
08-22-2013, 10:35 PM
Oh, the Romanians are great chimneybuilders!

near Zalatna:
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/1119123.jpg

Szegedist
08-22-2013, 10:48 PM
Chimneys and Communist panel houses are the only things built by Vlachs in Transylvania.

And Verchar, that is not a Chimney, but an ancient Dacian Roman victory column...


Also, there is no "Baia Mare", its rightful name is Nagybánya!

blogen
08-22-2013, 11:49 PM
Chimneys and Communist panel houses are the only things built by Vlachs in Transylvania.

You forget the newly built reinforced concrete Balkan churches everywhere!

ps. Ok, this is demagogue. There are beautiful and real Romanian small wooden churches (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1624389) too (many of them are in terrible condition).

Windischer
08-22-2013, 11:59 PM
with slavic writings in some of those churches one can wonder how romanian they are ;) but nevermind, whoever uses them (and cares for them), to them they belong.

blogen
08-23-2013, 12:07 AM
The original Romanian writing system was cyrillic. They use the Latin alphabet only since they discovered that city of Rome is their homeland.

Windischer
08-23-2013, 07:41 AM
The original Romanian writing system was cyrillic. They use the Latin alphabet only since they discovered that city of Rome is their homeland.

i mean slavic writings. the language. not alphabet.

Szegedist
08-23-2013, 10:38 AM
Thats because Romanians wrote in Church Slavonic, using Cyrilic script, before (as blogen said) they discovered Rome was their homeland :laugh:

Szegedist
08-23-2013, 03:53 PM
Following World War I, Transylvania, historically a Hungarian-controlled region, was given to Romania. Situated in NW Romania and bordered to the east by the horseshoe-shaped Carpathian Mountains, Transylvania had a large Hungarian population with a Saxon German minority. Ceausescu began a policy of promoting Romanian ethnicity and culture, while at the same time suppressing Hungarian and German culture. Many old Hungarian villages were simply bulldozed and many Romanians were forcibly moved to Transylvania to dilute the Hungarian population. Some have said that the Romanian-Hungarian border was even tougher to cross than the Berlin Wall, with Hungarians visiting family in Romania being held up for days at the border to make sure they did not have any Hungarian books or music. The formerly Hungarian town of Kolozsvar, one of historic Hungary's cultural centers, saw its name change first to the Romanian name of Cluj, and later to Cluj-Napoca, Napoca being the name of a Roman settlement in the region and added to the town's name to emphasize Romania's possible links to the old Roman Empire.


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/romania.htm

Szegedist
08-23-2013, 04:05 PM
Due to the close relations of the medieval Hungarian Kingdom with the West, talented Transylvanians found their ways to the early Universities of Europe as early as the 12th and 13th centuries. The very first student whose name became officially registered at the University of Oxford in 1193, was Miklós of Hungary, son of Kende, nobleman of Transylvania.

During the 15th century there were three famous Hungarian doctors on the faculty of the University of Bologna, and one of them, Péter Pál Apati of Torda, later founded the "Free Collegium of the Noble Sciences", established in his hometown, Torda, then moved to Kolozsvár (today Cluj) by King Matthias. After the two Hungarian Universities were established, Pécs in 1367, and Buda in 1389, many Transylvanians sent their sons there, some of whom, after returning home, founded one by one the "Collegiums" of High Learning in Nagyenyed, Gyulafehérvar, Kolozsvár, Nagyvárad, Brassó, Arad, Zilah and Marosvásárhely.


Due to the ecclesiastical domination of Rome as in other Western empires, the official language of science and administration in the Hungarian Kingdom was Latin. Therefore it was only in 1527 that the first book was printed in the Hungarian language in Kolozsvár. In 1598 there were already 24 printing establishments in Transylvania, publishing by that date 382 books, of which 368 were in the Hungarian language. There were 18 Transylvanian Hungarians enroled at the Wittenberg University in the year of 1586.

Many Transylvanian Hungarians were teaching at famous Western Universities, while several famous Western scientists, such as Martin Opitz, John Alstead, Henry Bisterfeld and Isaac Basire taught in Transylvanian colleges during the 16th and 17th centuries. In 1545 the complete translation of the Bible appeared in the Hungarian language, printed in Kolozsvár.

Shortly after, in 1582, financed by Hungarians and translated by Hungarians. the Bible was published in the Vlach language. In the 14th century two Transylvanian Hungarian brothers, Márton and György Kolozsvári, were famous sculptors. Most of their works were demolished through the many wars, except the well known statue of St.George in the city of Prague, which is today recognized as one of the greatest monuments of Gothic sculpture.

Thus Transylvania, as part of Hungary, became the center of Hungarian culture. During the most troubled times of Central European history, when the conflict between Catholicism and Protestantism set fire to the emotions, in Transylvania the Hungarian preacher and philosopher Ferenc Dávid (1535-1579) was able to found and establish the Unitarian Church, and persuade the Congress of Torda in 1568 to declare, for the first time in the world, the freedom of religion.


It is indeed not accidental that man's God-given right to choose his own religion and to worship freely and undisturbed was first recognized and legalized in Transylvania. This was a direct result of the Hungarian concept of freedom, as well as the respect toward the freedom of others, which permeated the entire Hungarian state-concept, and enabled the Hungarians to rule the Carpathian Basin successfully for a thousand years. This secured free development to every ethnic group which asked permission to settle within the Hungarian borders.

Even after 1711, when Hungarian political independence was completely lost to Habsburg oppression, Hungarian culture in Transylvania not only kept in step with the cultural evolution of the rest of the country, but in many instances it became the guiding force of spiritual and cultural resistance. In fields of sciences, art and literature, Transylvania became the torch-bearer to the rest of oppressed Hungary. The same phenomenon repeated itself after 1849, when the Liberty War was crushed by the combined forces of Austria and Russia, and the darkness of revengeful oppression fell upon Hungary for the second time.

It might be interesting to note that the first English-Tibetan dictionary was published in 1834 by a young Transylvanian Hungarian explorer, Sándor Kőrösi Csoma. The era between 1820 and 1867 is also regarded by many as the "golden age" of Hungarian national literature, brought forth by Habsburg oppression. Many of the great names in Hungarian literature were from Transylvania, such as Ferenc Kazinczy (1759-1831), Ferenc Kölcsey (1790-1838) Mihály Tompa (1817-1868) and others.

In 1867 the "reconciliation" between Emperor Franz Joseph and the Hungarian nation opened the gates toward industrialization and economic upswing. Though economic progress was much slower reaching into Transylvania than in other parts of Hungary - due to distances, lack of roads, etc. - the revitalization of the Hungarian culture reached a new peak in Kolozsvár and the other Transylvanian cities. During the glorious years of the "millennium", Transylvania proudly celebrated its thousand-year-old cultural heritage within the framework of the thousand-year-old Hungarian national frontiers.

When in 1919 the Rumanian army occupied Transylvania, and the brutal persecution of Hungarian officials, clergymen, educators and other intellectuals began with unprecedented Balkanic ferocity, Hungarian stamina was put to test. In Kolozsvár the Romanian army killed the major of the city on Christmas Eve and massacred innocent civilians of Hungarian nationality without any consideration on children, women and elders. The civilized World was shocked by the cruel and barbarian methods of the Rumanian army.


more on
http://www.angelfire.com/nm/hun/

Szegedist
08-28-2013, 10:53 PM
Most of these castles in Transylvania are Hungarian, the ones that are not are German.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_castles_in_Romania#Transylvania_.28Transil vania.29


Unesco world heritage sights in Transylvania
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villages_with_fortified_churches_in_Transylvania
http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/596
Most of these are Hungarian, others are German

Szegedist
08-28-2013, 10:56 PM
Transylvania is absolutely and undoubtedly Hungarian.

Romanians claim its theirs because
1) Today's demographics
2) Dubious theories about ancient "Dacian" origins.

Stears
09-03-2013, 07:52 PM
MY NEW VIDEO (watch in 1080p):



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yagRGPjzChc

Szegedist
09-04-2013, 11:12 AM
Temesvár- today so called "Timisoara"




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-crjQlRpfs

:)))))))))))))))))))))))))

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 01:55 PM
Question: If Romanians were first in Transylvania, then how come the majority of placenames have either Hungarian (or to a lesser extent Slavic) origins?

Velaxa
01-11-2014, 02:49 PM
Chimneys and Communist panel houses are the only things built by Vlachs in Transylvania.

And Verchar, that is not a Chimney, but an ancient Dacian Roman victory column...


Also, there is no "Baia Mare", its rightful name is Nagybánya!

=)))
How idiot can you be?
If you wanna this week I will photo some romanian house in Timisoara :>

Velaxa
01-11-2014, 02:54 PM
Transylvania is absolutely and undoubtedly Hungarian.

Romanians claim its theirs because
1) Today's demographics
2) Dubious theories about ancient "Dacian" origins.


http://oi40.tinypic.com/j6pkex.jpg

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 02:55 PM
Today demographics? Fucking stupid homosexual bitch, you shit your pants when I posted Transylvania demographics since 1200?
Yes, thanks for confirming Hungarian majority before 1600. The 1241 looks like an anomaly, it doesnt even show number of Hungarians.



You started here the shitstorm bozgorian sotries with Transylvania because we fucked your ass on "Turkish civilian organizations are supporting the Székely autonomy" thread? You are just a bitch, you dont have balls dude.
You total retard, I opened this thread months ago, much before the Turkish Civilian thread. Secondly, you did not kick my ass there, thirdly, the parasite that is too scared to post his pic is talking about others not having balls :laugh:

Zachary Hale Comstock
01-11-2014, 02:57 PM
I find that the origins of Romanians are mysterious. How did such a large body of the population in south-eastern Europe speak a Romance language?

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 02:57 PM
I find that the origins of Romanians are mysterious. How did such a large body of the population in south-eastern Europe speak a Romance language?

Please dont pollute this thread about origin of so called romanians.

Zachary Hale Comstock
01-11-2014, 03:01 PM
Please dont pollute this thread about origin of so called romanians.
Sorry but I can't find anything on the origin of the Romanians so I thought someone could explain it here.

Velaxa
01-11-2014, 03:03 PM
Yes, thanks for confirming Hungarian majority before 1600. The 1241 looks like an anomaly, it doesnt even show number of Hungarians.



You total retard, I opened this thread months ago, much before the Turkish Civilian thread. Secondly, you did not kick my ass there, thirdly, the parasite that is too scared to post his pic is talking about others not having balls :laugh:

Thanks for accepting the fact, romanians was the majority in Transylvania history :picard1:
A anomaly? there was 66% romanians, the numbers of bozgors doesnt matter because we was majority
"According to Jean W.Sedlar, the Vlachs may have comprised two-thirds of Transylvania's population in 1241 on the eve of the Mongol invasion" source wikipedia

Velaxa
01-11-2014, 03:07 PM
I find that the origins of Romanians are mysterious. How did such a large body of the population in south-eastern Europe speak a Romance language?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdOHCJA5vE4

blogen
01-11-2014, 03:43 PM
1241: 66%

:lol00002: :picard1:

Origin of the 11-12th century toponyms in Transslyvania:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6518/12thi.jpg

Origin of the Romanian toponyms in Transsylvania (Magyar, Slav,, German, Romanian):
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6020/erdelyromannevekeredete.jpg

http://mek.oszk.hu/03400/03407/html/img/transterk-map10.jpg

Velaxa
01-11-2014, 03:59 PM
:lol00002: :picard1:

Origin of the 11-12th century toponyms in Transslyvania:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6518/12thi.jpg

Origin of the Romanian toponyms in Transsylvania (Magyar, Slav,, German, Romanian):
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6020/erdelyromannevekeredete.jpg

http://mek.oszk.hu/03400/03407/html/img/transterk-map10.jpg

toponym=ethnic? :picard1:
I thought you are not like szegedist.
In 11-12 century Transylvania wasnt in Hungary? :picard2:

blogen
01-11-2014, 04:07 PM
toponym=ethnic? :picard1:

Yes. But this is basic...


In 11-12 century Transylvania wasnt in Hungary? :picard2:

Yes, Transylvania was a duchy of the Hungarian Kingdom. And? The placenames were ethnic origins. There were not official names in the Middle Ages, or what is your problem.

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 04:10 PM
:lol00002: :picard1:

Origin of the 11-12th century toponyms in Transslyvania:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6518/12thi.jpg

Origin of the Romanian toponyms in Transsylvania (Magyar, Slav,, German, Romanian):
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6020/erdelyromannevekeredete.jpg

http://mek.oszk.hu/03400/03407/html/img/transterk-map10.jpg



Germans okay, Slavs okay, but Hungarians? You are not even a member of the IE language family, your origins you can find somewhere within Ural mountains in Russia :thumb001:

Kiyant
01-11-2014, 04:12 PM
Germans okay, Slavs okay, but Hungarians? You are not even a member of the IE language family, your origins you can find somewhere within Ural mountains in Russia :thumb001:

You know that Finno-Ugrics together with the Basques were the first europeans or dont you know that?

Velaxa
01-11-2014, 04:15 PM
Yes. But this is basic...



Yes, Transylvania was a duchy of the Hungarian Kingdom. And? The placenames were ethnic origins. There were not official names in the Middle Ages, or what is your problem.

And who was the BIG BOSS? not the hungarians was the guys with moneyz and bitches?

blogen
01-11-2014, 04:17 PM
Germans okay, Slavs okay, but Hungarians? You are not even a member of the IE language family, your origins you can find somewhere within Ural mountains in Russia :thumb001:

What is your problem. You do not find your homeland in Rome? Which Roman insula was the original home of the Romanians?

blogen
01-11-2014, 04:19 PM
And who was the BIG BOSS? not the hungarians was the guys with moneyz and bitches?

The nobility and the prelacy were the chiefs. The majority of the them were ethnic Hungarian. And? The place-names originate from the local residents.

Velaxa
01-11-2014, 04:24 PM
The nobility and the prelacy were the chiefs. The majority of the them were ethnic Hungarian. And? The place-names originate from the local residents.

I dont think so...

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 04:24 PM
What is your problem. You do not find your homeland in Rome? Which Roman insula was the original home of the Romanians?
He calls himself Pinocchio because he lies a lot, typical Rumanian behavior.

Pinocchio is a hero of the children's novel The Adventures of Pinocchio by Italian author Carlo Collodi. Pinocchio, an animated puppet, is punished for each lie that he tells by undergoing further growth of his nose.[3] There are no restrictions on the length of Pinocchio's nose. It grows as he tells lies and at one point grows so long that he can not even get his nose "through the door of the room"

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 04:25 PM
You know that Finno-Ugrics together with the Basques were the first europeans or dont you know that?





In which area do you mean? I wonder how the fuck happened that hungarians as nation became a non IE people settled between IE speakers since the middle ages. There is also a similar situation you can read about the history of Greek Anatolian peninsula (present Turkey)

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 04:26 PM
Germans okay, Slavs okay, but Hungarians? You are not even a member of the IE language family, your origins you can find somewhere within Ural mountains in Russia :thumb001:

You retard is butthurt that majority of toponyms in Transylvania are of Hungarian origin, not Romanian.

Kiyant
01-11-2014, 04:26 PM
In which area do you mean? I wonder how the fuck happened that hungarians as nation became a non IE people settled between IE speakers since the middle ages. There is also a similar situation you can read about the history of Greek Anatolian peninsula (present Turkey)

IE people come from Asia while Finno-ugrics dont

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 04:27 PM
In which area do you mean? I wonder how the fuck happened that hungarians as nation became a non IE people settled between IE speakers since the middle ages. There is also a similar situation you can read about the history of Greek Anatolian peninsula (present Turkey)

Hey dickhead. Indo-Europeans are gypsie invaders from Afhganistan. And it doesnt matter if Hungarians are I-E or not, majority of toponyms in Transylvania are of Hungarian origin, from small villages to big cities.

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 04:27 PM
He calls himself Pinocchio because he lies a lot, typical Rumanian behavior.

Pinocchio is a hero of the children's novel The Adventures of Pinocchio by Italian author Carlo Collodi. Pinocchio, an animated puppet, is punished for each lie that he tells by undergoing further growth of his nose.[3] There are no restrictions on the length of Pinocchio's nose. It grows as he tells lies and at one point grows so long that he can not even get his nose "through the door of the room"



your post has nothing to do with the current thread

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 04:29 PM
your post has nothing to do with the current thread

And neither do your down syndrome ramblings.

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 04:31 PM
Hey dickhead. Indo-Europeans are gypsie invaders from Afhganistan. And it doesnt matter if Hungarians are I-E or not, majority of toponyms in Transylvania are of Hungarian origin, from small villages to big cities.


who gives a fuck? Such origins you can find in Turkey(which is the Greek part as a main country), but on Turkish.

Velaxa
01-11-2014, 04:31 PM
Hey dickhead. Indo-Europeans are gypsie invaders from Afhganistan. And it doesnt matter if Hungarians are I-E or not, majority of toponyms in Transylvania are of Hungarian origin, from small villages to big cities.

Because the nobles was bozgorians :rolleyes::picard2:
Anyway, in last 400 years who was the majority? :eek:

Kiyant
01-11-2014, 04:32 PM
Because the nobles was bozgorians :rolleyes::picard2:
Anyway, in last 400 years who was the majority? :eek:

LOL you needed those "bozgorians" to rule you for such a long time? hahahahahahahahaha

Velaxa
01-11-2014, 04:34 PM
LOL you needed those "bozgorians" to rule you for such a long time? hahahahahahahahaha

what?

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 04:35 PM
Because the nobles was bozgorians :rolleyes::picard2:
And majority of inhabitants.

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 04:36 PM
who gives a fuck? Such origins you can find in Turkey(which is the Greek part as a main country), but on Turkish.

You moron, if Romanians were there first, with majority of inhabitants being Romanian (according to your bullshit theories), then surely majority of toponyms would be of Romanian origin?

Do you not understand logic? Or do you just have some mental deficiency?

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 04:38 PM
You moron, if Romanians were there first, with majority of inhabitants being Romanian (according to your bullshit theories), then surely majority of toponyms would be of Romanian origin?

Do you not understand logic?



my fucking logic facts based on your fucking logic.



Or do you just have some mental deficiency?


are you a doctor?

Velaxa
01-11-2014, 04:38 PM
You moron, if Romanians were there first, with majority of inhabitants being Romanian (according to your bullshit theories), then surely majority of toponyms would be of Romanian origin?

Do you not understand logic? Or do you just have some mental deficiency?

You idiot your maps are from 12 century. Are you fucking blind or are you retarded?

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 04:40 PM
You idiot your maps are 10-11 centuries. Are you fucking blind or are you retarded?



he has narrow mind, nothing else. To arguing with such online idiots is useless believe me

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 04:42 PM
my fucking logic facts based on your fucking logic.





are you a doctor?
FACT 1: Majority of toponyms in Transylvania are of Hungarian origin.
FACT 2: First mention of Vlachs in Transylvania was in the 12th century.

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 04:43 PM
he has narrow mind, nothing else. To arguing with such online idiots is useless believe me

Hahahahahah, and you are calling ME Narrow minded, the retard who says "Roman Empire = Romanian Empire" :laugh:

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 04:44 PM
LISTING OF TRANSYLVANIAN HUNGARIAN PLACE-NAMES AND THEIR RUMANIAN REPLACEMENTS

1. Italics indicate that the Rumanian name of the locality is a direct translation or an approximation by sound and meaning of the original Hungarian name.
2. These Rumanian translations are often abbreviated versions of the original Hungarian names. In such cases in the list below, the missing part is indicated by dots (....)

3. The letter G in brackets after the name of the locality indicates German origin.

4. In Hungarian the attribute always precedes the noun; in the Rumanian translations of Hungarian toponyms the attribute mostly follows the noun. E.g.

- in Hungarian: Nagy(ajta), nagy=great

- in Rumanian: (Aita) Mare mare=great.

In these (and many other) instances, the pronunciation of the name of the locality is almost identical in both languages, but in reverse order.

Item Name in Hungarian Name in Rumanian Comments


A
1

Abrudbánya
Abrud.....
bánya=mine (under-ground)
2
Ádámos
Adamus

3
Aknasugatag
Ocna Sugatag
akna=ocna=shaft (in mining)
4
Ákos
Acis

5
Ákosfalva
Acâtari

6
Aldoboly
Dobolii-de-Jos
al=de-jos=lower
7
Algyógy
Georgiu

8
Alkenyér
Sibot

9
Almakerék
Mâlincrav

10
Almásgalgó
.....Gilgâu

11
Alsóárpás
Arpasul-de-Jos
Alsó=de-Jos=lower
12
Alsócsernáton
Cernat-..-...

13
Alsójára
Jara-de-Jos

14
Alsokosály
Caseiu-..-...

15
Alsópurumbák
Porumbacul-de-Jos

16
Alsórákos
Racosul-de-Jos

17
Alsószilvás
Silvasul-de-Jos

18
Alsószombatfalva
Simbatu-de-Jos

19
Alsótatárlaka
Tartaria-..-...

20
Alsótömös
Timisul-de-Jos

21
Alsóváradja
Oarda-de-Jos

22
Alsóvenice
Venetia-de-Jos

23
Alváca-fürdö
Vata-de-Jos

24
Alvinc
Vintul-de-Jos

25
Angyalos
Anghelus

26
Apahida
Apahida

26
Apanagyfalu
Nuseni

27
Apold
Apold

28
Arad
Arad

29
Aranyosbánya
Baia-de-Aries

30
Aranyosfö
Scârisoara

31
Aranyosgyéres
Cimpia Turzii

32
Aranyoslóna
......Luna

33
Aranyosmeggyes
Mediesul Aurit

34
Aranyosrákos
Valenii de Aries

35
Árapatak
Araci

36
Árkos
Arcus

37
Asszonyrét
Ogradeni

38
Avasfelsöfalu
Negresti-Oas

39
Avasujváros
Orasul Nou
...új...=...nou=new

B
40

Bábolna
Bobilna

41
Bábony
Babiu

42
Baca
Baca

43
Bágyon
Badeni

44
Bajfalu
Dânesti

45
Balánbánya
Bâlan....

46
Balavásár
Bâlâuseri

47
Balázsfalva
Blaj-....

49
Bálványosváralja
Unguras

50
Bánffyhunyad
.......Huedin

51
Bánlaka
Banlaca

52
Bánpatak
Banpotoc
patak=potoc=brook, stream
53
Baráthely
Brâteiu

54
Barcarozsnyó
.....Risnov

55
Bárdfalva
Berbesti

56
Bardóc
Brâdut

57
Báródsomos
Cornitel

58
Barót
Baraolt

59
Batiz
Botiz

61
Bázos
Bazos

62
Bedecs
Bedeciu

63
Bélafalva
Belani....

64
Belényes
Beius

65
Béles
Belis

66
Bencenc
Aurel Vlaicu

67
Bereck
Bretcu

68
Beresztelke
Breaza....

69
Berethalom
Biertan

70
Berzova
Birzava

71
Beszterce
Bistrita

72
Bethlen
Beclean

73
Bethlenszentmiklós
......Sinmiclaus

74
Bibarcfalva
Biborteni

75
Bihar
Biharia

76
Bihardiószeg
......Diosig

77
Biharfélegyháza
Rosiori

78
Biharfüred
Stina de Vale

79
Bikkfalva
Bicalau

80
Bikszádfürdö
Bicsad.....

81
Bodola
Budila

82
Bodrog
Calugâreni

83
Bodva
Bodvaj

84
Bodzaforduló
Intorsatura Buzalui

85
Bogártelke
Bâgara....

86
Bögöz
Mugeni

87
Boholt
Boholt

88
Boksabánya
Bocsa.....

89
Boldogfalva
Feliceni

90
Bölön
Belin

91
Bólya
Buia

92
Bonchida
Bontida

93
Bonyha
Bahnea

94
Borév
Buru

95
Borosjenö
..... Ineu

96
Boroskrakkó
.....Cricâu

97
Borossebes
.....Sebis

98
Bors
Bors

99
Borsa
Borsa

100
Borsabánya
Bâile Borsa
baile=bathing resort
101
Borszék
Borsec

102
Botfalu
Bod....

103
Brád
Brad

104
Branyicska
Branisca

105
Brassó
Brasov

106
Bréb
Breb

107
Bucsa
Bucea

108
Bucsony
Bucium

109
Budfalva
Budesti

110
Büdöspataka
Bizusa-Bâi

111
Buziásfürdö
Buzias.....


C
112

Cebe
Tebea

113
Celna
Telna

114
Csák
Ciacova

115
Csákigorbó
.....Girbau

116
Csarnóháza
Bulz

117
Csatád
Lenauheim
(G)
118
Csernahéviz
Toplet

119
Csicsóholdvilág
Tapu

120
Csicsókápolna
......Capilna

121
Csicsókeresztúr
Cristestii-Ciceului

122
Csicsómihályfalva
Ciceu-Mihâiesti

123
Csíkcsicsó
....Ciceu

124
Csíkdánfalva
.... Dânesti

125
Csíkdelne
....Delnita

126
Csíkmadaras
....Mâdâras

127
Csíkménaság
....Armâseni

128
Csíkszentdomonkos
....Sindominic
szent=sin=saint
129
Csíkszentgyörgy
Ciuc-Singeorgiu
György=Georgiu= George
130
Csíkszentimre
....Sintimbru

131
Csíkszentkirály
....Sincrâeni

132
Csíkszentmihály
....Mihâileni

133
Csíkszentmiklós
.....Nicolesti

134
Csíkszereda
Mircurea Ciuc

135
Csíkzsögöd
Jigodin-Ciuc

136
Csókfalva
Cioc....

137
Csomakörös
.....Chiurus

138
Csucsa
Ciucea


D
139

Dálnok
Dalnic

140
Dános
Danes

141
Dés
Dej

142
Désakna
Ocna Dejului
akna=ocna=shaft(in mining)
143
Désfalva
Deaj....

144
Desze
Desesti

145
Déva
Deva

146
Dézna
Dezna

147
Dicsöszentmárton
Tirnaveni

148
Diód
Stremt

149
Diófás
Nucet

150
Dióshalom
Surdesti

151
Ditró
Ditrau

152
Doboca
Dabica

153
Dombhát
Anies

154
Dragomérfalva
Dragomiresti

155
Drenkova
Drenkova

E
156

Egeres
Aghires

157
Élesd
Alesd

158
Elöpatak
Vilcele

159
Énlaka
Inlaceni

160
Erdöd
Ardud

161
Erdöfelek
....Feleacu

162
Erdöfüle
....Filia

163
Erdöszentgyörgy
Singeorgiu-de-Pâdure

164
Eresztevény
Eresthigin

165
Erked
Archita

166
Érkeserü
..Chesereu
keserü=chesereu= bitter
167
Érmihályfalva
Valea lui Mihai

168
Erösd
Ariusd

169
Érsemlyén
..Simian

170
Értarcsa
..Tarcea

171
Erzsébetváros
Dumbrâveni

172
Esküllö
Astileu

173
Esztelnek
Estelnic


F
174

Farkaslaka
Lupeni
farkas=lup=wolf
175
Farkasrév
Vad

176
Farnas
Sfarasu

177
Fehéregyháza
Albesti...

178
Feketehalom
Codlea

179
Felek
Avrig

180
Felgyógy
Geoagiul-de-Sus

181
Félix-fürdö
Bâile Felix
fürdö=baile=spa
182
Felör
Uriu

183
Felsöbajom
...Bazna

184
Felsöbánya
Baia-Sprie

185
Felsöfüld
Fildu-de-Sus
felsö=de-sus=upper
186
Felsögáld
Galda-de-Sus

187
Felsökálinfalva
... Calinesti

188
Felsöróna
Rona-de-Sus
róna=rona=plain
189
Felsöszálláspatak
Sâlasu-de-Sus
szállás=sâlasu=quarter
190
Felsöszelistye
Selistea-de-Sus

191
Felsöszombatfalva
Simbâta-de-Sus
szombat=simbâta= Saturday
192
Felsötömös
Timisul-de-Sus

193
Felsövisó
Viseu-de-Sus

194
Felvinc
Unirea

195
Fenyöfalva
Bradu

196
Ferencfalva
Vâliug

197
Fiatfalva
Filias

198
Fogaras
Fâgâras

199
Földvár
Feldiora

200
Fugyivásárhely
.....Osorheiu
vásárhely=osorheiu=mmarket-place
201
Füzesmikola
.....Nicula


G
202

Gelence
Ghelinta

203
Gerendkeresztúr
Luncani

204
Gernyeszeg
Gornesti

205
Görgénysóakna
Jabenita

206
Görgényszentimre
Gurghiu....

207
Gyergyóalfalu
.....Joseni
alfalu=joseni=lower village
208
Gyergyófelfalu
.....Suseni
felfalu=suseni=upper village
209
Gyergyóremete
....Remetea
remete=remetea=hermit
210
Gyergyószentmiklós
Gheorgheni.......

211
Gyerövásárhely
Dumbrava

212
Gyimesbükk
Fâget

213
Györgyfalva
Gheorgheni

214
Gyorok
Ghioroc

215
Gyulafehérvár
Alba Iulia
fehér=alba=white Iulia=Julia
216
Gyulakuta
Fintinele

217
Gyulavarsánd
....Vârsand


H
218

Hadad
Hodod

219
Halmágycsúcs
Virfurile

220
Halmi
Halmeu

221
Hargitafürdö
Harghita-Bâi

222
Harina
Herina

223
Hátszeg
Hateg

224
Havasrekettye
....Râchitele
rekettye=râchitele= furze
225
Hégen
Brâdeni

226
Héjjasfalva
Vinâtori

227
Herkulesfürdö
Bâile Herculane
fürdö=bâile=spa
228
Homoród
Homorod

229
Homoród Karácson-falva
.....Crâciunel

230
Homoródalmás
Meresti

231
Homoróddaróc
.....Drâuseni

232
Homoródfürdö
Bâile-Homorod

233
Homoródjánosfalva
.....Jonesti

234
Homoródszentmárton
....Mârtinis

235
Homoródsentpéter
.....Petreni

236
Honctö
Gurahont

237
Hordó
Cosbuc

238
Hosszúrév
Râstoci


I
239

Ikafalva
Icafalâu
falva/falu=falâu= village
240
Illyefalva
Ilieni

241
Iltö
Ilteu

242
Imecsfalva
Imeni

243
Iszló
Isla

244
Izakonyha
Bogdan Voda


J
245

Jakabfalva
Jacobeni

246
Jegenyefürdö
Bâile Leghia
jegenye=leghia=poplar
247
Jód
Ieud

248
Jószáshely
Josâsel

249
Józsefháza
Jojib

K
250

Kackó
Citcâu

251
Kajántó
Chinteni

252
Kalotaszentkirály
ZamSincraiu

253
Kalugyer
Câlugeri

254
Kaplony
Câpleni

255
Kapnikbánya
Cavnic....

256
Kaprevár
Câpriora
Rum. capr=goat, ora=fortress, town. Ora comes from Old Hungarian
257
Karánsebes
Caransebes
sebes = sebes = swift
258
Kastély
Costeiu
kastély = costeiu = manor-house
259
Kászonimpér
....Imper

260
Kecskés
Cozla

261
Kelnek
Cilnic

262
Kerc
Cirta

263
Kerelöszentpál
....Sinpaul

264
Keresd
Cris

265
Keresztényfalva
Cristian

266
Kereszténysziget
Cristian

267
Keresztvár
Teliu

268
Kerlés
Chirales

269
Kérö
Bâita

270
Ketesd
Tetisu

271
Kézdikövár
Petriceni

272
Kézdiszentlélek
...Sinzieni

273
Kézdivásárhely
Tirgu Secuiesc

274
Királyfürdö
Bâile Chirnii

275
Kisbacon
Bâtani-Mici
kis = mici = little
276
Kisbács
Baciu

277
Kisbánya
Bâita

278
Kisdisznód
Cisnâdioara

279
Kisjenö
Chisineu Cris

280
Kiskalán
...Câlan

281
Kiskalota
...Câlâtele

282
Kiskapus
Copsa-Mica

283
Kismajtény
Moftinu Mic

284
Kisnyires
Mesteacân

285
Kissebes
Poieni

286
Kisselyk
Seica Micâ

287
Kissolymos
... Soimus

288
Kistécsö
Huta

289
Kistorony
Turnisor

290
Köaljaohába
Ohaba-de-sub-Piatrâ

291
Kobátfalva
Cobâtesti

292
Köhalom
Rupea

293
Kökös
Chichis

294
Kolibica
Colibita

295
Kolozs
Cojocna

296
Kolozsvár
Cluj-Napoca
Cluj is a corruption of Hung. Kolos (Old Hung. family name). Napoca is of Dacian origin, and it was arbitrarily brought in after 1920.
297
Koltó
Coltâu

298
Konop
Conop

299
Köpec
Chepeti

300
Korond
Corund

301
Koronka
Corunca

302
Körösbánya
Bâia-de-Cris

303
Körösfö
Izvorul Crisului

304
Köröspatak
Criseni....

305
Kovászi
Covâsint

306
Kovászna
Covasna

307
Kövend
Plaesti

308
Kozárvár
Cuzdriora

309
Középajta
Aita Medie
közép=medie=middle
310
Középlak
Cuzaplac

311
Kozmás
Cozmeni

312
Krassóvár
Carasova

313
Kraszna
Crasna

314
Krasznabéltek
....Beltiug

315
Kristyor
Criscioe

316
Kudzsir
Cugir

317
Küküllövár
Cetatea-de-Baltâ

L
318

Lámkerék
Lancrâm

319
Laposnya
Lâpusna

320
Lászlóvára
Coronini

321
Lemhény
Lemnia

322
Lesnyek
Lesnic

323
Lesses
Dealul Frumos

324
Lippa
Lipova

325
Lippafüred
Bâile Lipova

326
Lövéte
Laueta

327
Lugos
Lugoj

328
Lugoskisfalu
Victor Vlad Delamarina

329
Lupény
Lupeni


M
330

Mádéfalva
Siculeni

331
Magyarbikal
.....Bicalatu
Magyar = Hungarian
332
Magyarborzás
.....Borzies

333
Magyarfülpös
.....Filipisu

334
Magyargorbó
.....Girbau

335
Magyargyerömonostor
.....Mânâstireni

336
Magyarhermány
.....Herculian

337
Magyarigen
....Ighiu

338
Magyarókereke
.....Alunisu

339
Magyarremete
.....Remetea

340
Magyarsáros
Delenii

341
Magyarszovát
.....Suatu

342
Magyarvalkó
.....Valceu

343
Magyarvista
......Vistea

344
Magyarzsombor
......Zimboru

345
Majszin
.....Moisei

346
Maksa
Moacsa

347
Malajesd
Mâlâesti

348
Málnás
Malnas

349
Málnásfürdö
Bâile Malnas

350
Malomfalva
Moresti

351
Malomviz
Riu-de-Mori

352
Máragyulafalva
....Giulesti

353
Máramarossziget
Sigethul Marmatiei
sziget = sigethul = isle
354
Máréfalva
Satu Mare

355
Margitta
Marghita

356
Máriaradna
....Radna

357
Maroscsapó
....Cipau

358
Marosdécse
....Decea

359
Marosfö
Izvorul Muresului

360
Maroshévíz
Toplita

361
Maroskeresztúr
.....Cristesti

362
Marosludas
....Ludus

363
Marosnagylak
.....Noslac

364
Marosnémeti
Mintia

365
Marosszentanna
Sintana de Mures

366
Marosszentgyörgy
Singeorgiul de Mures

367
Marosszentkirály
Sincraiul de Mures

368
Marosújvár
Ocna Muresului

369
Marosvásárhely
Tirgu Mures
vásárhely=tirgu=market-place, Mures= the river maros
370
Marosvécse
Brincovenesti

371
Medgyes
Medias

372
Ménes
Minis
ménes=minis=stud-farm
373
Menyháza
Moneasa

374
Méra
Mera

375
Meregyó
Mârgâu

376
Mészkö
Cheia

377
Mesztákon
Mestecân

378
Mézged
Meziad

379
Mezöcsávás
Ceasu de Cimpie

380
Mezökeszü
.....Chesâu

381
Mezökirályfalva
.....Craiesti

382
Mezöszava
.....Sava

383
Mezötelegd
.....Tileagd

384
Mezöveresegyháza
Strugureni

385
Mikháza
Câlugâreni

386
Miklóstelke
Cloasterf

387
Miklósvár
Miclosoara

388
Mikóujfalu
Micfalâu

389
Miriszló
Mirâslau

390
Misztótfalu
Tâuti-de-Jos

391
Mojgrád
Moigrad

392
Monorfalva
Monor....

393
Muzsna
Mosna



N
394

Nádas
Nâdasu
nádas = nâdasu = reedy marsh
395
Nádasdaróc
....Doroltu

396
Nadrág
Nâdrag
nadrág = nâdrag = trousers
397
Nagyajta
Aita Mare
nagy = mare = great
398
Nagyapold
Apoldul-de-Sus

399
Nagybánya
Baia Mare
bánya=baia=mine
400
Nagybáród
.....Borod

401
Nagybaromlak
Valea Viilor

402
Nagyborosnyó
Borosneul-Mare

403
Nagycsür
Sura Mare

404
Nagydisznód
Cisnâdie

405
Nagyekemezö
Tirnava

406
Nagyenyed
....Aiud

407
Nagyernye
....Ernei

408
Nagygalambfalva
Porumbenii Mari

409
Nagyhalmágy
....Hâlmâgiu

410
Nagyiklód
....Iclod

411
Nagykároly
....Carei
Károly=Carei=Charles
412
Nagylak
Nâdlac

413
Nagylupsa
....Lupsa

414
Nagypetri
...Petrindu

415
Nagysármás
....Sarmasu

416
Nagysebes
Valea Drâganului

417
Nagyselyk
Seica Mare

418
Nagysinka
Sinca Mare

419
Nagysomkút
Somcuta Mare

420
Nagyszalonta
.....Salonta

421
Nagyszeben
.....Sibiu
(G.) Hermannstadt
422
Nagyszentmiklós
Sinnicolau Mare

423
Nagyszöllös


424
Nagytalmács
....Talmaciu

425
Nagytopoly
.....Topolovâtu

426
Nagyvárad
....Oradea

427
Nánfalva
Nanesti

428
Naszádos
Plavisevita

429
Naszód
Nâsâud

430
Németság
...Sagu

431
Nuksora
Nucsoara

432
Nyárádköszvényes
Mâtrici

433
Nyárádremete
....Eremitul

434
Nyárádszentlászló
....Sinvasi

435
Nyárádszereda
Miercurea Nirajului

436
Nyáradtö
Ungheni

437
Nyíres
Nires

438
Nyújtód
Lunga
nyújt=lunga='long' to stretch
O
439

Odvas
Odvos

440
Ojtoz
Oituz

441
Oláhtelek
Tohan
.
442
Olasztelek
Tâlisoara

443
Olthévíz
Hoghiz

444
Oltszakadát
...Sâcâdat

445
Oltszem
Olteni

446
Ompolygyepü
Presaca-Ampoiului

447
Oradna
Rodna-Veche
ó = veche = old
448
Oravicabánya
Oravita.....

449
Orczyfalva
Ortisoara

450
Orsova
Orsova

451
Osebeshely
Sibiselul-Vechi

452
Otohán
Tohanul Vechi


Ö
453

Öraljaboldogfalva
Sintamaria-Orlea

454
Ördöngösfüzes
Fizesu Gherlei

455
Örvénd
Urvind

456
Öszény
Izvin

457
Öthalom
Tudor Vladimirescu


P
458

Pálos
Pâulis

459
Pankota
Pincota

460
Paptamási
....Tamaseu

461
Parajd
Praid

462
Partos
Partos

463
Pécska
Pecica

464
Petrozsény
Petrosani

465
Piski
Simeria

466
Piskolt
Piscolt

467
Polyán
Poiana Sibilului

468
Prázsmár
Prejmer

469
Prépostfalva
Steiaris

470
Priszlop
Liviu Rebreanu

471
Puj
Pui

472
Pusztakamarás
.....Câmârasu

473
Pusztaujlak
Uileacu-de-Cis
újlak = uileacu = new home

R
474

Radnót
Iernut

475
Rádós
Roades

476
Rava
Roua

477
Remec
Remeti

478
Remetelórév
....Lorau

479
Rény
Rieni

480
Resicabánya
Resita.....

481
Retteg
Reteag

482
Réty
Reci

483
Rév
Radul Crisului

484
Révkolostor
Vad

485
Rézbánya
.....Bâita

486
Ribice
Ribita

487
Robogány
Râbâgani

488
Rogozsel
Rogojel

489
Románbaksa
.....Bocsa

490
Románszentgyörgy
.....Singeorz-Bâi

491
Rónaszék
Costini

492
Rozália
Rozavlea

493
Rozsonda
Ruja

494
Rugonfalva
Rugânesti

495
Rüsz
Rusi

496
Ruszkabánya
Ruschita


S
497

Sajó
Sieu

498
Sajóudvarhely
Sieu-Odorheiu

499
Sárd
Sard

500
Sárerdö
Padurea Noroieni
erdö=padurea=forest
501
Sárkány
Sercaia

502
Sárköz
Livada

503
Sáromberke
Dumbraviora

504
Sebeshely
Sebisel

505
Sebesvár
Bologa

506
Segesd
Saes

507
Segesvár
Sighisoara

508
Sellenberk
Selimbar

509
Sepsibodok
.....Bodoc

510
Sepsibükszád
.....Bicsad

511
Sepsiszentgyörgy
.....Sfintu Gheorghe

512
Sinfalva
Cornesti

513
Soborsin
Sâvirsin

514
Solymosvár
Soimos....

515
Sólyomköpestes
.......Pestis

516
Somkerék
Sintereag

517
Somlyóújlak
Uileacu Simleului

518
Sövénység
Fiser
(G.)
519
Stájerlakanina
.....Anina


Sz
520

Szabadhely
Simbateni

521
Szacsva
Saciova

522
Szálva
Salva

523
Szamosfalva
Someseni

524
Szaplonca
Sâpinta

525
Szárhegy
Lâzarea

526
Szászbuda
....Bunesti

527
Szászcsór
Sascior

528
Szászdálya
....Daia

529
Szászgorbó
....Girbova

530
Szászhalom
Movile

531
Szászhermány
....Hârman

532
Szászivánfalva
Ighisul-Nou

533
Szászkeresztur
.......Crit

534
Szászkézd
Saschiz

535
Szászmagyarós
....Maerus

536
Szászrégen
.....Reghin
(G.)
537
Szászsebes
...Sebes

538
Szászváros
...Orâstie

539
Szászveresmart
Rotbav
(G.)
540
Szatmárnémeti
Satu Mare

541
Szecsele
Sâcele

542
Szejkefürdö
Siche....

543
Szék
Sic

544
Székelydája
.....Daia

545
Székelyjó
Sâcuien

546
Székelykál
Caluseri

547
Székelykeresztúr
Cristuru Secuiesc

548
Székelyszáldobos
.....Doboseni

549
Székelyszentmihály
...........Mihaileni

550
Székelytamásfalva
....Tamasfalâu

551
Székelyudvarhely
Odorheiu-Secuiesc

552
Székelyvaja
.....Oaia

553
Szelindek
Slimnic

554
Szelistye
Saliste

555
Szentágota
....Agnita

556
Szentanna
Sintana

557
Szentbenedek
Minasteria

558
Szentegyházasfalu
Vlahita

559
Szentgerice
....Gâlâteni

560
Szentivánlaborfalva
Sintion Lunca

561
Szentkatolna
...Câtâlina

562
Szentlélek
Bisericani

563
Szentmihály
Mihai Vitezul

564
Széphely
Jebel

565
Szépvíz
Frumoasa

566
Szépvölgy
Valea Frumoasa

567
Szerdahely
Mercurea

568
Szeretfalva
Sârâtel

569
Szilágycseh
Cehul Silvaniei

570
Szilágynagyfalu
......Nusfalâu

571
Szilágysomlyó
Simleul Silvaniel

572
Szilágyzovány
Zâuan-Bâi

573
Szinérváralja
Seini......

574
Szödemeter
Sauca

575
Szörénybalázsd
Voislova

576
Szováta
Sovata

577
Sztána
Stina

578
Sztojka-fürdö
Stoiceni-Bâi

579
Sztrigyszentgyörgy
Streisingeorgiu

580
Szurdok
Surduc

T
581

Tamáshida
Tâmasda

582
Tardos
Turdas

583
Tasnád
Tâsnad

584
Teke
Teaca

585
Tekeröpatak
Valea-Strimbâ

586
Telcs
Telciu

587
Telna
Celna

588
Temeskalácsa
.....Câlacea

589
Temeskenéz
Satchinez
(G)
590
Temesság
.....Sag

591
Temesvâr
Timisoara

592
Teregova
Teregova

593
Tihuta
Tihuca

594
Tiszóca
Tisovita

595
Topánfalva
Cimpeni

596
Törcsvár
Bran

597
Torda
Turda

598
Torja
Turia

599
Torockó
Rimetea

600
Torockószentgyörgy
Coltesti

601
Tótvárad
....Vârâdia

602
Tövis
Teius

603
Tusnádfürdö
Bâile Tusnad


U
604

Ujváros
Noistat
uj = noi = new város = stat = town
605
Urikány
Uricani

606
Uzon
Ozun


V
607

Vád
Vad

608
Vadász
Vinatori

609
Vajdahunyad
....Hunedoara

610
Váka
Crisan

611
Válaszút
Râscruci

612
Vámfalu
Vama

613
Vámosgátfalva
.....Gânesti

614
Váncsfalva
Oncesti

615
Varádfenes
....Finis

616
Váralja
Subcetatu

617
Váralmás
... Almasu

618
Várfalva
Moldovenesti

619
Vargyas
Virghis

620
Várhely
Sarmisegetuza
Known Dacian capital's name arbitrarily introduced by Rumania.
621
Várkuda
.....Coldâu

622
Vársonkolyos
....Sunsuius

623
Vasasszentgothárd
....Sucutard

624
Vaskoh
Vascâu

625
Veite
Vojteg
(G)
626
Verespatak
Rosia Montana

627
Vice
Vita

628
Viktória-város
Orasul-Victoria
város = orasul = town
629
Világos
Siria

630
Vinga
Vinga

631
Visóoroszi
....Ruscova

632
Vízakna
Ocna Sibiliu

633
Vörösacél
Otelul Rosu

Z
634

Zabola
Zabala

635
Zágon
Zagon

636
Zalán
Zâlan

637
Zalatna
Zlatna

638
Zám
Zam

639
Zaránd
Zârand

640
Zejkány
Zeicani

641
Zernest
Zârnesti

642
Zeykfalva
Streiu

643
Zilah
Zâlâu


Zs
644

Zsibó
Jibou

645
Zsidóvár
Jdioara

646
Zsilyvajdevulkán
Vulcan

647
Zsobok
Jebucu

648
Zsögödfürdö
Jigodin-Bâi

649
Zsombolya
Jimbolia

650
Zsupp
Jupa

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 04:46 PM
Hahahahahah, and you are calling ME Narrow minded, the retard who says "Roman Empire = Romanian Empire" :laugh:





my typo in my text made you smart?

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 04:47 PM
my typo in my text made you smart?

Idiot it was not a typo, you wrote it several times, on purpose.

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 04:53 PM
LISTING OF TRANSYLVANIAN HUNGARIAN PLACE-NAMES AND THEIR RUMANIAN REPLACEMENTS

1. Italics indicate that the Rumanian name of the locality is a direct translation or an approximation by sound and meaning of the original Hungarian name.
2. These Rumanian translations are often abbreviated versions of the original Hungarian names. In such cases in the list below, the missing part is indicated by dots (....)

3. The letter G in brackets after the name of the locality indicates German origin.

4. In Hungarian the attribute always precedes the noun; in the Rumanian translations of Hungarian toponyms the attribute mostly follows the noun. E.g.

- in Hungarian: Nagy(ajta), nagy=great

- in Rumanian: (Aita) Mare mare=great.

In these (and many other) instances, the pronunciation of the name of the locality is almost identical in both languages, but in reverse order.

Item Name in Hungarian Name in Rumanian Comments


A
1

Abrudbánya
Abrud.....
bánya=mine (under-ground)
2
Ádámos
Adamus

3
Aknasugatag
Ocna Sugatag
akna=ocna=shaft (in mining)
4
Ákos
Acis

5
Ákosfalva
Acâtari

6
Aldoboly
Dobolii-de-Jos
al=de-jos=lower
7
Algyógy
Georgiu

8
Alkenyér
Sibot

9
Almakerék
Mâlincrav

10
Almásgalgó
.....Gilgâu

11
Alsóárpás
Arpasul-de-Jos
Alsó=de-Jos=lower
12
Alsócsernáton
Cernat-..-...

13
Alsójára
Jara-de-Jos

14
Alsokosály
Caseiu-..-...

15
Alsópurumbák
Porumbacul-de-Jos

16
Alsórákos
Racosul-de-Jos

17
Alsószilvás
Silvasul-de-Jos

18
Alsószombatfalva
Simbatu-de-Jos

19
Alsótatárlaka
Tartaria-..-...

20
Alsótömös
Timisul-de-Jos

21
Alsóváradja
Oarda-de-Jos

22
Alsóvenice
Venetia-de-Jos

23
Alváca-fürdö
Vata-de-Jos

24
Alvinc
Vintul-de-Jos

25
Angyalos
Anghelus

26
Apahida
Apahida

26
Apanagyfalu
Nuseni

27
Apold
Apold

28
Arad
Arad

29
Aranyosbánya
Baia-de-Aries

30
Aranyosfö
Scârisoara

31
Aranyosgyéres
Cimpia Turzii

32
Aranyoslóna
......Luna

33
Aranyosmeggyes
Mediesul Aurit

34
Aranyosrákos
Valenii de Aries

35
Árapatak
Araci

36
Árkos
Arcus

37
Asszonyrét
Ogradeni

38
Avasfelsöfalu
Negresti-Oas

39
Avasujváros
Orasul Nou
...új...=...nou=new

B
40

Bábolna
Bobilna

41
Bábony
Babiu

42
Baca
Baca

43
Bágyon
Badeni

44
Bajfalu
Dânesti

45
Balánbánya
Bâlan....

46
Balavásár
Bâlâuseri

47
Balázsfalva
Blaj-....

49
Bálványosváralja
Unguras

50
Bánffyhunyad
.......Huedin

51
Bánlaka
Banlaca

52
Bánpatak
Banpotoc
patak=potoc=brook, stream
53
Baráthely
Brâteiu

54
Barcarozsnyó
.....Risnov

55
Bárdfalva
Berbesti

56
Bardóc
Brâdut

57
Báródsomos
Cornitel

58
Barót
Baraolt

59
Batiz
Botiz

61
Bázos
Bazos

62
Bedecs
Bedeciu

63
Bélafalva
Belani....

64
Belényes
Beius

65
Béles
Belis

66
Bencenc
Aurel Vlaicu

67
Bereck
Bretcu

68
Beresztelke
Breaza....

69
Berethalom
Biertan

70
Berzova
Birzava

71
Beszterce
Bistrita

72
Bethlen
Beclean

73
Bethlenszentmiklós
......Sinmiclaus

74
Bibarcfalva
Biborteni

75
Bihar
Biharia

76
Bihardiószeg
......Diosig

77
Biharfélegyháza
Rosiori

78
Biharfüred
Stina de Vale

79
Bikkfalva
Bicalau

80
Bikszádfürdö
Bicsad.....

81
Bodola
Budila

82
Bodrog
Calugâreni

83
Bodva
Bodvaj

84
Bodzaforduló
Intorsatura Buzalui

85
Bogártelke
Bâgara....

86
Bögöz
Mugeni

87
Boholt
Boholt

88
Boksabánya
Bocsa.....

89
Boldogfalva
Feliceni

90
Bölön
Belin

91
Bólya
Buia

92
Bonchida
Bontida

93
Bonyha
Bahnea

94
Borév
Buru

95
Borosjenö
..... Ineu

96
Boroskrakkó
.....Cricâu

97
Borossebes
.....Sebis

98
Bors
Bors

99
Borsa
Borsa

100
Borsabánya
Bâile Borsa
baile=bathing resort
101
Borszék
Borsec

102
Botfalu
Bod....

103
Brád
Brad

104
Branyicska
Branisca

105
Brassó
Brasov

106
Bréb
Breb

107
Bucsa
Bucea

108
Bucsony
Bucium

109
Budfalva
Budesti

110
Büdöspataka
Bizusa-Bâi

111
Buziásfürdö
Buzias.....


C
112

Cebe
Tebea

113
Celna
Telna

114
Csák
Ciacova

115
Csákigorbó
.....Girbau

116
Csarnóháza
Bulz

117
Csatád
Lenauheim
(G)
118
Csernahéviz
Toplet

119
Csicsóholdvilág
Tapu

120
Csicsókápolna
......Capilna

121
Csicsókeresztúr
Cristestii-Ciceului

122
Csicsómihályfalva
Ciceu-Mihâiesti

123
Csíkcsicsó
....Ciceu

124
Csíkdánfalva
.... Dânesti

125
Csíkdelne
....Delnita

126
Csíkmadaras
....Mâdâras

127
Csíkménaság
....Armâseni

128
Csíkszentdomonkos
....Sindominic
szent=sin=saint
129
Csíkszentgyörgy
Ciuc-Singeorgiu
György=Georgiu= George
130
Csíkszentimre
....Sintimbru

131
Csíkszentkirály
....Sincrâeni

132
Csíkszentmihály
....Mihâileni

133
Csíkszentmiklós
.....Nicolesti

134
Csíkszereda
Mircurea Ciuc

135
Csíkzsögöd
Jigodin-Ciuc

136
Csókfalva
Cioc....

137
Csomakörös
.....Chiurus

138
Csucsa
Ciucea


D
139

Dálnok
Dalnic

140
Dános
Danes

141
Dés
Dej

142
Désakna
Ocna Dejului
akna=ocna=shaft(in mining)
143
Désfalva
Deaj....

144
Desze
Desesti

145
Déva
Deva

146
Dézna
Dezna

147
Dicsöszentmárton
Tirnaveni

148
Diód
Stremt

149
Diófás
Nucet

150
Dióshalom
Surdesti

151
Ditró
Ditrau

152
Doboca
Dabica

153
Dombhát
Anies

154
Dragomérfalva
Dragomiresti

155
Drenkova
Drenkova

E
156

Egeres
Aghires

157
Élesd
Alesd

158
Elöpatak
Vilcele

159
Énlaka
Inlaceni

160
Erdöd
Ardud

161
Erdöfelek
....Feleacu

162
Erdöfüle
....Filia

163
Erdöszentgyörgy
Singeorgiu-de-Pâdure

164
Eresztevény
Eresthigin

165
Erked
Archita

166
Érkeserü
..Chesereu
keserü=chesereu= bitter
167
Érmihályfalva
Valea lui Mihai

168
Erösd
Ariusd

169
Érsemlyén
..Simian

170
Értarcsa
..Tarcea

171
Erzsébetváros
Dumbrâveni

172
Esküllö
Astileu

173
Esztelnek
Estelnic


F
174

Farkaslaka
Lupeni
farkas=lup=wolf
175
Farkasrév
Vad

176
Farnas
Sfarasu

177
Fehéregyháza
Albesti...

178
Feketehalom
Codlea

179
Felek
Avrig

180
Felgyógy
Geoagiul-de-Sus

181
Félix-fürdö
Bâile Felix
fürdö=baile=spa
182
Felör
Uriu

183
Felsöbajom
...Bazna

184
Felsöbánya
Baia-Sprie

185
Felsöfüld
Fildu-de-Sus
felsö=de-sus=upper
186
Felsögáld
Galda-de-Sus

187
Felsökálinfalva
... Calinesti

188
Felsöróna
Rona-de-Sus
róna=rona=plain
189
Felsöszálláspatak
Sâlasu-de-Sus
szállás=sâlasu=quarter
190
Felsöszelistye
Selistea-de-Sus

191
Felsöszombatfalva
Simbâta-de-Sus
szombat=simbâta= Saturday
192
Felsötömös
Timisul-de-Sus

193
Felsövisó
Viseu-de-Sus

194
Felvinc
Unirea

195
Fenyöfalva
Bradu

196
Ferencfalva
Vâliug

197
Fiatfalva
Filias

198
Fogaras
Fâgâras

199
Földvár
Feldiora

200
Fugyivásárhely
.....Osorheiu
vásárhely=osorheiu=mmarket-place
201
Füzesmikola
.....Nicula


G
202

Gelence
Ghelinta

203
Gerendkeresztúr
Luncani

204
Gernyeszeg
Gornesti

205
Görgénysóakna
Jabenita

206
Görgényszentimre
Gurghiu....

207
Gyergyóalfalu
.....Joseni
alfalu=joseni=lower village
208
Gyergyófelfalu
.....Suseni
felfalu=suseni=upper village
209
Gyergyóremete
....Remetea
remete=remetea=hermit
210
Gyergyószentmiklós
Gheorgheni.......

211
Gyerövásárhely
Dumbrava

212
Gyimesbükk
Fâget

213
Györgyfalva
Gheorgheni

214
Gyorok
Ghioroc

215
Gyulafehérvár
Alba Iulia
fehér=alba=white Iulia=Julia
216
Gyulakuta
Fintinele

217
Gyulavarsánd
....Vârsand


H
218

Hadad
Hodod

219
Halmágycsúcs
Virfurile

220
Halmi
Halmeu

221
Hargitafürdö
Harghita-Bâi

222
Harina
Herina

223
Hátszeg
Hateg

224
Havasrekettye
....Râchitele
rekettye=râchitele= furze
225
Hégen
Brâdeni

226
Héjjasfalva
Vinâtori

227
Herkulesfürdö
Bâile Herculane
fürdö=bâile=spa
228
Homoród
Homorod

229
Homoród Karácson-falva
.....Crâciunel

230
Homoródalmás
Meresti

231
Homoróddaróc
.....Drâuseni

232
Homoródfürdö
Bâile-Homorod

233
Homoródjánosfalva
.....Jonesti

234
Homoródszentmárton
....Mârtinis

235
Homoródsentpéter
.....Petreni

236
Honctö
Gurahont

237
Hordó
Cosbuc

238
Hosszúrév
Râstoci


I
239

Ikafalva
Icafalâu
falva/falu=falâu= village
240
Illyefalva
Ilieni

241
Iltö
Ilteu

242
Imecsfalva
Imeni

243
Iszló
Isla

244
Izakonyha
Bogdan Voda


J
245

Jakabfalva
Jacobeni

246
Jegenyefürdö
Bâile Leghia
jegenye=leghia=poplar
247
Jód
Ieud

248
Jószáshely
Josâsel

249
Józsefháza
Jojib

K
250

Kackó
Citcâu

251
Kajántó
Chinteni

252
Kalotaszentkirály
ZamSincraiu

253
Kalugyer
Câlugeri

254
Kaplony
Câpleni

255
Kapnikbánya
Cavnic....

256
Kaprevár
Câpriora
Rum. capr=goat, ora=fortress, town. Ora comes from Old Hungarian
257
Karánsebes
Caransebes
sebes = sebes = swift
258
Kastély
Costeiu
kastély = costeiu = manor-house
259
Kászonimpér
....Imper

260
Kecskés
Cozla

261
Kelnek
Cilnic

262
Kerc
Cirta

263
Kerelöszentpál
....Sinpaul

264
Keresd
Cris

265
Keresztényfalva
Cristian

266
Kereszténysziget
Cristian

267
Keresztvár
Teliu

268
Kerlés
Chirales

269
Kérö
Bâita

270
Ketesd
Tetisu

271
Kézdikövár
Petriceni

272
Kézdiszentlélek
...Sinzieni

273
Kézdivásárhely
Tirgu Secuiesc

274
Királyfürdö
Bâile Chirnii

275
Kisbacon
Bâtani-Mici
kis = mici = little
276
Kisbács
Baciu

277
Kisbánya
Bâita

278
Kisdisznód
Cisnâdioara

279
Kisjenö
Chisineu Cris

280
Kiskalán
...Câlan

281
Kiskalota
...Câlâtele

282
Kiskapus
Copsa-Mica

283
Kismajtény
Moftinu Mic

284
Kisnyires
Mesteacân

285
Kissebes
Poieni

286
Kisselyk
Seica Micâ

287
Kissolymos
... Soimus

288
Kistécsö
Huta

289
Kistorony
Turnisor

290
Köaljaohába
Ohaba-de-sub-Piatrâ

291
Kobátfalva
Cobâtesti

292
Köhalom
Rupea

293
Kökös
Chichis

294
Kolibica
Colibita

295
Kolozs
Cojocna

296
Kolozsvár
Cluj-Napoca
Cluj is a corruption of Hung. Kolos (Old Hung. family name). Napoca is of Dacian origin, and it was arbitrarily brought in after 1920.
297
Koltó
Coltâu

298
Konop
Conop

299
Köpec
Chepeti

300
Korond
Corund

301
Koronka
Corunca

302
Körösbánya
Bâia-de-Cris

303
Körösfö
Izvorul Crisului

304
Köröspatak
Criseni....

305
Kovászi
Covâsint

306
Kovászna
Covasna

307
Kövend
Plaesti

308
Kozárvár
Cuzdriora

309
Középajta
Aita Medie
közép=medie=middle
310
Középlak
Cuzaplac

311
Kozmás
Cozmeni

312
Krassóvár
Carasova

313
Kraszna
Crasna

314
Krasznabéltek
....Beltiug

315
Kristyor
Criscioe

316
Kudzsir
Cugir

317
Küküllövár
Cetatea-de-Baltâ

L
318

Lámkerék
Lancrâm

319
Laposnya
Lâpusna

320
Lászlóvára
Coronini

321
Lemhény
Lemnia

322
Lesnyek
Lesnic

323
Lesses
Dealul Frumos

324
Lippa
Lipova

325
Lippafüred
Bâile Lipova

326
Lövéte
Laueta

327
Lugos
Lugoj

328
Lugoskisfalu
Victor Vlad Delamarina

329
Lupény
Lupeni


M
330

Mádéfalva
Siculeni

331
Magyarbikal
.....Bicalatu
Magyar = Hungarian
332
Magyarborzás
.....Borzies

333
Magyarfülpös
.....Filipisu

334
Magyargorbó
.....Girbau

335
Magyargyerömonostor
.....Mânâstireni

336
Magyarhermány
.....Herculian

337
Magyarigen
....Ighiu

338
Magyarókereke
.....Alunisu

339
Magyarremete
.....Remetea

340
Magyarsáros
Delenii

341
Magyarszovát
.....Suatu

342
Magyarvalkó
.....Valceu

343
Magyarvista
......Vistea

344
Magyarzsombor
......Zimboru

345
Majszin
.....Moisei

346
Maksa
Moacsa

347
Malajesd
Mâlâesti

348
Málnás
Malnas

349
Málnásfürdö
Bâile Malnas

350
Malomfalva
Moresti

351
Malomviz
Riu-de-Mori

352
Máragyulafalva
....Giulesti

353
Máramarossziget
Sigethul Marmatiei
sziget = sigethul = isle
354
Máréfalva
Satu Mare

355
Margitta
Marghita

356
Máriaradna
....Radna

357
Maroscsapó
....Cipau

358
Marosdécse
....Decea

359
Marosfö
Izvorul Muresului

360
Maroshévíz
Toplita

361
Maroskeresztúr
.....Cristesti

362
Marosludas
....Ludus

363
Marosnagylak
.....Noslac

364
Marosnémeti
Mintia

365
Marosszentanna
Sintana de Mures

366
Marosszentgyörgy
Singeorgiul de Mures

367
Marosszentkirály
Sincraiul de Mures

368
Marosújvár
Ocna Muresului

369
Marosvásárhely
Tirgu Mures
vásárhely=tirgu=market-place, Mures= the river maros
370
Marosvécse
Brincovenesti

371
Medgyes
Medias

372
Ménes
Minis
ménes=minis=stud-farm
373
Menyháza
Moneasa

374
Méra
Mera

375
Meregyó
Mârgâu

376
Mészkö
Cheia

377
Mesztákon
Mestecân

378
Mézged
Meziad

379
Mezöcsávás
Ceasu de Cimpie

380
Mezökeszü
.....Chesâu

381
Mezökirályfalva
.....Craiesti

382
Mezöszava
.....Sava

383
Mezötelegd
.....Tileagd

384
Mezöveresegyháza
Strugureni

385
Mikháza
Câlugâreni

386
Miklóstelke
Cloasterf

387
Miklósvár
Miclosoara

388
Mikóujfalu
Micfalâu

389
Miriszló
Mirâslau

390
Misztótfalu
Tâuti-de-Jos

391
Mojgrád
Moigrad

392
Monorfalva
Monor....

393
Muzsna
Mosna



N
394

Nádas
Nâdasu
nádas = nâdasu = reedy marsh
395
Nádasdaróc
....Doroltu

396
Nadrág
Nâdrag
nadrág = nâdrag = trousers
397
Nagyajta
Aita Mare
nagy = mare = great
398
Nagyapold
Apoldul-de-Sus

399
Nagybánya
Baia Mare
bánya=baia=mine
400
Nagybáród
.....Borod

401
Nagybaromlak
Valea Viilor

402
Nagyborosnyó
Borosneul-Mare

403
Nagycsür
Sura Mare

404
Nagydisznód
Cisnâdie

405
Nagyekemezö
Tirnava

406
Nagyenyed
....Aiud

407
Nagyernye
....Ernei

408
Nagygalambfalva
Porumbenii Mari

409
Nagyhalmágy
....Hâlmâgiu

410
Nagyiklód
....Iclod

411
Nagykároly
....Carei
Károly=Carei=Charles
412
Nagylak
Nâdlac

413
Nagylupsa
....Lupsa

414
Nagypetri
...Petrindu

415
Nagysármás
....Sarmasu

416
Nagysebes
Valea Drâganului

417
Nagyselyk
Seica Mare

418
Nagysinka
Sinca Mare

419
Nagysomkút
Somcuta Mare

420
Nagyszalonta
.....Salonta

421
Nagyszeben
.....Sibiu
(G.) Hermannstadt
422
Nagyszentmiklós
Sinnicolau Mare

423
Nagyszöllös


424
Nagytalmács
....Talmaciu

425
Nagytopoly
.....Topolovâtu

426
Nagyvárad
....Oradea

427
Nánfalva
Nanesti

428
Naszádos
Plavisevita

429
Naszód
Nâsâud

430
Németság
...Sagu

431
Nuksora
Nucsoara

432
Nyárádköszvényes
Mâtrici

433
Nyárádremete
....Eremitul

434
Nyárádszentlászló
....Sinvasi

435
Nyárádszereda
Miercurea Nirajului

436
Nyáradtö
Ungheni

437
Nyíres
Nires

438
Nyújtód
Lunga
nyújt=lunga='long' to stretch
O
439

Odvas
Odvos

440
Ojtoz
Oituz

441
Oláhtelek
Tohan
.
442
Olasztelek
Tâlisoara

443
Olthévíz
Hoghiz

444
Oltszakadát
...Sâcâdat

445
Oltszem
Olteni

446
Ompolygyepü
Presaca-Ampoiului

447
Oradna
Rodna-Veche
ó = veche = old
448
Oravicabánya
Oravita.....

449
Orczyfalva
Ortisoara

450
Orsova
Orsova

451
Osebeshely
Sibiselul-Vechi

452
Otohán
Tohanul Vechi


Ö
453

Öraljaboldogfalva
Sintamaria-Orlea

454
Ördöngösfüzes
Fizesu Gherlei

455
Örvénd
Urvind

456
Öszény
Izvin

457
Öthalom
Tudor Vladimirescu


P
458

Pálos
Pâulis

459
Pankota
Pincota

460
Paptamási
....Tamaseu

461
Parajd
Praid

462
Partos
Partos

463
Pécska
Pecica

464
Petrozsény
Petrosani

465
Piski
Simeria

466
Piskolt
Piscolt

467
Polyán
Poiana Sibilului

468
Prázsmár
Prejmer

469
Prépostfalva
Steiaris

470
Priszlop
Liviu Rebreanu

471
Puj
Pui

472
Pusztakamarás
.....Câmârasu

473
Pusztaujlak
Uileacu-de-Cis
újlak = uileacu = new home

R
474

Radnót
Iernut

475
Rádós
Roades

476
Rava
Roua

477
Remec
Remeti

478
Remetelórév
....Lorau

479
Rény
Rieni

480
Resicabánya
Resita.....

481
Retteg
Reteag

482
Réty
Reci

483
Rév
Radul Crisului

484
Révkolostor
Vad

485
Rézbánya
.....Bâita

486
Ribice
Ribita

487
Robogány
Râbâgani

488
Rogozsel
Rogojel

489
Románbaksa
.....Bocsa

490
Románszentgyörgy
.....Singeorz-Bâi

491
Rónaszék
Costini

492
Rozália
Rozavlea

493
Rozsonda
Ruja

494
Rugonfalva
Rugânesti

495
Rüsz
Rusi

496
Ruszkabánya
Ruschita


S
497

Sajó
Sieu

498
Sajóudvarhely
Sieu-Odorheiu

499
Sárd
Sard

500
Sárerdö
Padurea Noroieni
erdö=padurea=forest
501
Sárkány
Sercaia

502
Sárköz
Livada

503
Sáromberke
Dumbraviora

504
Sebeshely
Sebisel

505
Sebesvár
Bologa

506
Segesd
Saes

507
Segesvár
Sighisoara

508
Sellenberk
Selimbar

509
Sepsibodok
.....Bodoc

510
Sepsibükszád
.....Bicsad

511
Sepsiszentgyörgy
.....Sfintu Gheorghe

512
Sinfalva
Cornesti

513
Soborsin
Sâvirsin

514
Solymosvár
Soimos....

515
Sólyomköpestes
.......Pestis

516
Somkerék
Sintereag

517
Somlyóújlak
Uileacu Simleului

518
Sövénység
Fiser
(G.)
519
Stájerlakanina
.....Anina


Sz
520

Szabadhely
Simbateni

521
Szacsva
Saciova

522
Szálva
Salva

523
Szamosfalva
Someseni

524
Szaplonca
Sâpinta

525
Szárhegy
Lâzarea

526
Szászbuda
....Bunesti

527
Szászcsór
Sascior

528
Szászdálya
....Daia

529
Szászgorbó
....Girbova

530
Szászhalom
Movile

531
Szászhermány
....Hârman

532
Szászivánfalva
Ighisul-Nou

533
Szászkeresztur
.......Crit

534
Szászkézd
Saschiz

535
Szászmagyarós
....Maerus

536
Szászrégen
.....Reghin
(G.)
537
Szászsebes
...Sebes

538
Szászváros
...Orâstie

539
Szászveresmart
Rotbav
(G.)
540
Szatmárnémeti
Satu Mare

541
Szecsele
Sâcele

542
Szejkefürdö
Siche....

543
Szék
Sic

544
Székelydája
.....Daia

545
Székelyjó
Sâcuien

546
Székelykál
Caluseri

547
Székelykeresztúr
Cristuru Secuiesc

548
Székelyszáldobos
.....Doboseni

549
Székelyszentmihály
...........Mihaileni

550
Székelytamásfalva
....Tamasfalâu

551
Székelyudvarhely
Odorheiu-Secuiesc

552
Székelyvaja
.....Oaia

553
Szelindek
Slimnic

554
Szelistye
Saliste

555
Szentágota
....Agnita

556
Szentanna
Sintana

557
Szentbenedek
Minasteria

558
Szentegyházasfalu
Vlahita

559
Szentgerice
....Gâlâteni

560
Szentivánlaborfalva
Sintion Lunca

561
Szentkatolna
...Câtâlina

562
Szentlélek
Bisericani

563
Szentmihály
Mihai Vitezul

564
Széphely
Jebel

565
Szépvíz
Frumoasa

566
Szépvölgy
Valea Frumoasa

567
Szerdahely
Mercurea

568
Szeretfalva
Sârâtel

569
Szilágycseh
Cehul Silvaniei

570
Szilágynagyfalu
......Nusfalâu

571
Szilágysomlyó
Simleul Silvaniel

572
Szilágyzovány
Zâuan-Bâi

573
Szinérváralja
Seini......

574
Szödemeter
Sauca

575
Szörénybalázsd
Voislova

576
Szováta
Sovata

577
Sztána
Stina

578
Sztojka-fürdö
Stoiceni-Bâi

579
Sztrigyszentgyörgy
Streisingeorgiu

580
Szurdok
Surduc

T
581

Tamáshida
Tâmasda

582
Tardos
Turdas

583
Tasnád
Tâsnad

584
Teke
Teaca

585
Tekeröpatak
Valea-Strimbâ

586
Telcs
Telciu

587
Telna
Celna

588
Temeskalácsa
.....Câlacea

589
Temeskenéz
Satchinez
(G)
590
Temesság
.....Sag

591
Temesvâr
Timisoara

592
Teregova
Teregova

593
Tihuta
Tihuca

594
Tiszóca
Tisovita

595
Topánfalva
Cimpeni

596
Törcsvár
Bran

597
Torda
Turda

598
Torja
Turia

599
Torockó
Rimetea

600
Torockószentgyörgy
Coltesti

601
Tótvárad
....Vârâdia

602
Tövis
Teius

603
Tusnádfürdö
Bâile Tusnad


U
604

Ujváros
Noistat
uj = noi = new város = stat = town
605
Urikány
Uricani

606
Uzon
Ozun


V
607

Vád
Vad

608
Vadász
Vinatori

609
Vajdahunyad
....Hunedoara

610
Váka
Crisan

611
Válaszút
Râscruci

612
Vámfalu
Vama

613
Vámosgátfalva
.....Gânesti

614
Váncsfalva
Oncesti

615
Varádfenes
....Finis

616
Váralja
Subcetatu

617
Váralmás
... Almasu

618
Várfalva
Moldovenesti

619
Vargyas
Virghis

620
Várhely
Sarmisegetuza
Known Dacian capital's name arbitrarily introduced by Rumania.
621
Várkuda
.....Coldâu

622
Vársonkolyos
....Sunsuius

623
Vasasszentgothárd
....Sucutard

624
Vaskoh
Vascâu

625
Veite
Vojteg
(G)
626
Verespatak
Rosia Montana

627
Vice
Vita

628
Viktória-város
Orasul-Victoria
város = orasul = town
629
Világos
Siria

630
Vinga
Vinga

631
Visóoroszi
....Ruscova

632
Vízakna
Ocna Sibiliu

633
Vörösacél
Otelul Rosu

Z
634

Zabola
Zabala

635
Zágon
Zagon

636
Zalán
Zâlan

637
Zalatna
Zlatna

638
Zám
Zam

639
Zaránd
Zârand

640
Zejkány
Zeicani

641
Zernest
Zârnesti

642
Zeykfalva
Streiu

643
Zilah
Zâlâu


Zs
644

Zsibó
Jibou

645
Zsidóvár
Jdioara

646
Zsilyvajdevulkán
Vulcan

647
Zsobok
Jebucu

648
Zsögödfürdö
Jigodin-Bâi

649
Zsombolya
Jimbolia

650
Zsupp
Jupa






after a massive hun invasion and occupation of Transylvania, all the settlements were renamed that belong to Romania

Velaxa
01-11-2014, 04:56 PM
LISTING OF TRANSYLVANIAN HUNGARIAN PLACE-NAMES AND THEIR RUMANIAN REPLACEMENTS

Zsilyvajdevulkán
Vulcan
Vasasszentgothárd
Sucutard
Torockószentgyörgy
Coltesti
Szentegyházasfalu
Vlahita
Románszentgyörgy
Singeorz-Bâi

What you want to prove, the hungarian is a ugly language? :rotfl::fcrazy::fcrazy::fcrazy:

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 05:02 PM
Idiot it was not a typo, you wrote it several times, on purpose.



Romanians are Romanians like Romansh are Romansh, and these both people have direct descent from Roman Empire.


How about you guys?


http://www.eliznik.org.uk/EastEurope/History/migration-map/hungarian-emap.GIF



and judging by you I am still an idiot,your arrogance and ignorance at the same time

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 05:03 PM
after a massive hun invasion and occupation of Transylvania, all the settlements were renamed that belong to Romania

AHhahaha, you are such a retardescu. Proof proof proof idiot! You have none!

You are lying so much, that soon your nose will be so long that it will stick out of Velaxas throat.

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 05:05 PM
Romanians are Romanians like Romansh are Romans, and these both people have direct descent from Roman Empire.


:picard1:

Did you even read what you just said?

And you are wrong, roma-nians are Romanized Gypsies/slaves of the Roman Empire which inhabited the South Balkan, before migrating Northwards.

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 05:12 PM
Romanians are Romanians like Romansh are Romansh, and these both people have direct descent from Roman Empire.


How about you guys?


http://www.eliznik.org.uk/EastEurope/History/migration-map/hungarian-emap.GIF



and judging by you I am still an idiot,your arrogance and ignorance at the same time



Here are your "European" Romanians
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/735088_500403026687360_522565905_n.jpg

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 05:32 PM
:picard1:

Did you even read what you just said?

And you are wrong, roma-nians are Romanized Gypsies/slaves of the Roman Empire which inhabited the South Balkan, before migrating Northwards.



did you even learn something about the origin of gypsies? I thought you are smart, and now I've noticed you are completely idiot. In the middle ages the population among gypsies was low and had minority, I think you should visit your hungarian districts frequently where absolutely majority are gypsies





http://hungarynews.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/ancient-home-of-hungarians.jpg



assimilated asians nowadays :p

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 05:38 PM
Here are your "European" Romanians
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/735088_500403026687360_522565905_n.jpg





Now it's time for cherry picking, eh? Let me guess, you probably took from the activists site who is supporting Elena Sabina?

Velaxa
01-11-2014, 05:42 PM
Here are your "European" Romanians
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/735088_500403026687360_522565905_n.jpg
Hungarians
http://www.stefan-pochmann.info/spocc/other_stuff/events/budapest2005/images/P1010008.JPG
second line on google images

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 06:51 PM
did you even learn something about the origin of gypsies? I thought you are smart, and now I've noticed you are completely idiot. In the middle ages the population among gypsies was low and had minority, I think you should visit your hungarian districts frequently where absolutely majority are gypsies
Your broken dribbles make little sense.





http://hungarynews.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/ancient-home-of-hungarians.jpg



assimilated asians nowadays :p

You have the heart, soul and culture of a gypo. It doesn't matter if we come from Asia, Hungarians are more succesful and more European than "Romanians".

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 06:53 PM
Your broken dribbles make little sense.






You have the heart, soul and culture of a gypo. It doesn't matter if we come from Asia, Hungarians are more succesful and more European than "Romanians".






your ugly alien language, asian culture and mentality have nothing to do with Europe. It's what you can't accept

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 06:58 PM
your ugly alien language, asian culture and mentality have nothing to do with Europe. It's what you can't accept
FACTS:

1) Hungarian is a beautiful language.
2) Hungarians are a civilised, cultured people
3) Romanian culture, mentality, looks are very primitive and uncivilised. The whole world thinks of you as gypsies.

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 07:14 PM
FACTS:

1) Hungarian is a beautiful language.
2) Hungarians are a civilised, cultured people
3) Romanian culture, mentality, looks are very primitive and uncivilised. The whole world thinks of you as gypsies.





only in your dream :rolleyes:

Kiyant
01-11-2014, 07:17 PM
only in your dream :rolleyes:

Not really

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 07:22 PM
Not really









http://www.kurdmedia.com/pix/kurdistan_map3b.jpg


:thumb001:

Kiyant
01-11-2014, 07:26 PM
http://www.kurdmedia.com/pix/kurdistan_map3b.jpg


:thumb001:

Wishfull thinking which doesnt even make sense

Szegedist
01-11-2014, 07:27 PM
only in your dream :rolleyes:

And reality too.

SKYNET
01-11-2014, 07:57 PM
Wishfull thinking which doesnt even make sense




Not really


Wishfull thinking which doesnt even make sense

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 09:52 AM
FACTS:

1) Hungarian is a beautiful language.
2) Hungarians are a civilised, cultured people
3) Romanian culture, mentality, looks are very primitive and uncivilised. The whole world thinks of you as gypsies.

Beautiful language? LOLOLOLOL
Hungarians are not civilised
Romanian culture is far superior than yours. For example we have our own architecture style, you dont

blogen
01-12-2014, 10:34 AM
For example we have our own architecture style, you dont

:picard1:

Some example onto the major specific Hungarian architectural styles from the last hundred years:

Hungarian late eclecticism (Lechner Ödön, Lajta Béla, Maróti Géza, etc. for example), the national style (nemzeti stílus):
http://egykor.hu/images/2010/original/budapest-postatakarekpenztar-szekhaza-jelenleg.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/hu/2/25/Iparm%C5%B1v%C3%A9szeti_m%C3%BAzeum_1.jpg
http://www.felsofokon.hu/sites/default/files/users/turisztikai-latvanyossagok/images/kek-templom-5258.jpg

Hungarian pre-postmodern or völkish-modern (Kós Károly for example), the Transsylvanian style (erdélyi stílus):
http://bagyinszki.eu/galleries/sepsiszentgyorgy_szekely_nemzeti_muzeum/sepsiszentgyorgy_szekely_nemzeti_muzeum_03.jpg
http://img.index.hu/cikkepek/0808/kult/wekerle/.gdata/a6_D__ZA2008082619.jpg
http://static3.architectforum.hu/files2012/n00/02/21/14/body/qvsgmb-sztana-varjuvar.jpg

Hungarian postmodern (Makovecz Imre, etc.), Makovecz style (makoveczi stílus):
http://loveandunity.interneteurope.eu/~mimhu/database/photos/big/20011a.jpg
http://static.orszagalbum.hu/nagy/1271935152.jpg
http://www.kephost.com/images4/2012/10/5/a1_2012_10_5_cmahazcwqw.jpg

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 10:39 AM
:picard1:

Some example onto the major specific Hungarian architectural styles from the last hundred years:

Hungarian late eclecticism (Lechner Ödön, Lajta Béla, Maróti Géza, etc. for example), the national style (nemzeti stílus):
http://egykor.hu/images/2010/original/budapest-postatakarekpenztar-szekhaza-jelenleg.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/hu/2/25/Iparm%C5%B1v%C3%A9szeti_m%C3%BAzeum_1.jpg
http://www.felsofokon.hu/sites/default/files/users/turisztikai-latvanyossagok/images/kek-templom-5258.jpg

Hungarian pre-postmodern or völkish-modern (Kós Károly for example), the Transsylvanian style (erdélyi stílus):
http://bagyinszki.eu/galleries/sepsiszentgyorgy_szekely_nemzeti_muzeum/sepsiszentgyorgy_szekely_nemzeti_muzeum_03.jpg
http://img.index.hu/cikkepek/0808/kult/wekerle/.gdata/a6_D__ZA2008082619.jpg
http://static3.architectforum.hu/files2012/n00/02/21/14/body/qvsgmb-sztana-varjuvar.jpg

Hungarian postmodern (Makovecz Imre, etc.), Makovecz style (makoveczi stílus):
http://loveandunity.interneteurope.eu/~mimhu/database/photos/big/20011a.jpg
http://static.orszagalbum.hu/nagy/1271935152.jpg
http://www.kephost.com/images4/2012/10/5/a1_2012_10_5_cmahazcwqw.jpg

Was invented by Hungarians?

blogen
01-12-2014, 10:52 AM
Was invented by Hungarians?

I signed the most considerable Hungarian architects' name, they were the inventors, they made the programs to these styles and this was only from the last hundred years! The Hungarian architecture did his own style always since the 11th century. And the situation is similar in Europe (not in the Balkan!) from Hungary to England. Every great European nation have dozen own style.

You have only one style from the last centuries, the Brâncovenesc. This is not a big thing.

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 11:05 AM
I signed the most considerable Hungarian architects' name, they were the inventors, they made the programs to these styles and this was only from the last hundred years! The Hungarian architecture did his own style always since the 11th century. And the situation is similar in Europe (not in the Balkan!) from Hungary to England. Every great European nation have dozen own style.

You have only one style from the last centuries, the Brâncovenesc. This is not a big thing.

We have 3 styles, not only 1.
Give me the hungarians style since 11th century.
And great nation? Hungary since ottoman invasion is a shitty nation

blogen
01-12-2014, 01:02 PM
And great nation? Hungary since ottoman invasion is a shitty nation

And Romania is a shitty nation since the beginning.


We have 3 styles, not only 1.
Give me the hungarians style since 11th century.

The basic outline. The basic styles and the specific Hungarian substyles (in all artistic branches from the architecture to the jewelry) with existing and the destroyed examples. These styles separated from the neighbouring countries' styles and the local versions of the European architecture. Than the Brâncovenesc style of the Byzanto-Ottoman architecture.

11-12th century: the Hungarian Byzantine styles: Hungarian synthesis between the Byzantine architecture and the Italian Romance
- considerable abbeys, for example Feldebrő (http://media.vendegvaro.hu/13/13406/24448.jpg)

11-13th century: the Hungarian Romance styles: Hungarian synthesis between the Magyar nomad (in the decorative art) and the Italian Romance art and later with German effects
- Hungarian early rural Romance, mostly Rotundas, for example Öskü (http://keptar.karpat-medence.hu/galleries/Magyarorszag/Veszprem/Osku-Kerektemplom/osku-kerektemplom_02.jpg) or brick Romance churches, for example Csempeszkopács (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/17804670.jpg)
- Hungarian mature Romance, for example cathedral of Pécs and the Hungarian mature brick-Romance, for example Ákos (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/58044510.jpg) or the romance phase of the destroyed main church of Székesfehérvár or the cathedral of Esztergom
- Hungarian late Romance, for example abbey of Ják (http://pctrs.network.hu/clubpicture/8/6/8/_/jaki_templom__2006_868230_42213.jpg), or the partially destroyed abbey of Zsámbék (http://www.medicontur.com/files/Contact/Zsambek_.jpg)

14-15th century: the Hungarian Gothic styles: Hungarian synthesis between the French and German gothic styles with Hungarian Romance heritage.
- Hungarian early Gothic, for example the cathedral of Gyulafehérvár (http://www.fordfocus.hu/albums/album1134/DSCF1611.jpg) or the destroyed cathedral of Kalocsa (http://muvtor.btk.ppke.hu/romanika/kalocre3.gif)
- Hungarian mature Gothic, for example the Kecske templom in Sopron (http://static.orszagalbum.hu/nagy/1289665951.jpg) or the destroyed cathedral of Eger or Nagyvárad
- Hungarian late Gothic, for example the Szent Mihály church in Kolozsvár (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/12797173.jpg) or the destroyed late gothic main church of Székesfehérvár, castle of Hunyad (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/38225895.jpg) or the destroyed royal palace of Buda (http://budapestcity.org/10-var/1458-I-Matyas-kora/1470-rekonstrukcios-rajz.jpg), especially the Friss palace (http://mek.oszk.hu/01900/01948/html/cd3m/kepek/torteneti_foldrajz/tf212zl8159.jpg) or the archbishop's palace of Esztergom. (http://www.castrumbene.hu/images/web/cb/2002_7_esztergom_vitez_j._palotaja.jpg)
- The Hungarian brick Gothic (Egervár-school), for example the abbey of Szeged. (http://www.zoldmuves.hu/sites/zoldmuves.hu/files/tervezok/szeged-alsovaros-matyas-ter-es-ferences-kolostor-kertjeinek-rendezese/szegedalsovartos03.jpg)
- Hungarian völkish gothic, for example the wooden belfries in Hungary and Transsylvania, for example in Nyírbátor (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Nyirbator_reftemplom.jpg)

16-17th century: the Hungarian Renaissance styles
- Hungarian mature renaissance, for example Sopronkereszttúr (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/66829700.jpg)
- Hungarian late renaissance, for example Sárospatak (http://static.orszagalbum.hu/nagy/1233092770.jpg)
- Hungarian late renaissance, the Transsylvanian style, for example Bethlenszentmiklós (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-O8_hm93w9r0/TdwJetS57iI/AAAAAAAAD70/-JMK6jD-t2c/s1600/DSC03800.JPG), Fogaras (http://22nap.egologo.transindex.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/163_x_k.jpg)
- Hungarian völkish renaissance. For example the painted ceilings (http://sandorson.fw.hu/Szatmar/24-tak.jpg), or the basic Hungarian rural house form in the Periphery (Highland, Transsylvania), (http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/8326542.jpg) Palóc ház (http://itthon.hu/site/upload/2009/09/kulso3.jpg)

18th century: the Hungarian Baroque styles:
- Hungarian late Baroque, for examplte the cathedral of Vác (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gSqETFJkpDE/TLIf_V_0n3I/AAAAAAAABDY/hlUSwj_CZN0/s1600/P8148128.JPG)
- völkish baroque, the typical Hungarian house form in the Plain and Transdanubia (http://pctrs.network.hu/clubpicture/1/2/6/1/_/halaszi_nepi_epiteszet_remekei_barokk_stilusu_haza k_2011_szeptember_24en_1261818_1812.JPG) and the basic rural manor house type of the rural nobility (http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/67673606.jpg). This is the Hungarian folk art fundamentally.

19th century: the Hungarian premodern styles: the straight continuation of the Hungarian late Baroque with more simplicity in the classicism and Italian influence in the eclecticism.
- Hungarian classicism, for example the county houses (http://utrakelo-irodalom.hu/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/A-r%C3%A9gi-megyeh%C3%A1za.jpg).
- Hungarian eclectisicm, the Hungarian neo-renaissance, the most important Hungarian style. Hungary's characteristic eclectic architecture and the style has a considerable effect on the dual monarchy's architecture. But this is basically a Budapester style, this is the 19th century Budapest. For example the average house in Budapest. (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/28761712.jpg)

20th century: the Hungarian modern and postmodern styles (see above!)
- Hungarian late eclecticism, the national style
- Hungarian völkish modern, the Transsylvanian style
- Hungarian postmodern, the Makovecz style
- Hungarian late völkish modern, the cube-house style (http://maxingatlan.hu/max-office/ingatlanok/11722/SANY0031.png), the last Hungarian folk art from the second half of the 20th century before the cultural industrialization of the rural areas.

I'm not sure that the list is full.

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 02:11 PM
And Romania is a shitty nation since the beginning.



The basic outline. The basic styles and the specific Hungarian substyles (in all artistic branches from the architecture to the jewelry) with existing and the destroyed examples. These styles separated from the neighbouring countries' styles and the local versions of the European architecture. Than the Brâncovenesc style of the Byzanto-Ottoman architecture.

11-12th century: the Hungarian Byzantine styles: Hungarian synthesis between the Byzantine architecture and the Italian Romance
- considerable abbeys, for example Feldebrő (http://media.vendegvaro.hu/13/13406/24448.jpg)

11-13th century: the Hungarian Romance styles: Hungarian synthesis between the Magyar nomad (in the decorative art) and the Italian Romance art and later with German effects
- Hungarian early rural Romance, mostly Rotundas, for example Öskü (http://keptar.karpat-medence.hu/galleries/Magyarorszag/Veszprem/Osku-Kerektemplom/osku-kerektemplom_02.jpg) or brick Romance churches, for example Csempeszkopács (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/17804670.jpg)
- Hungarian mature Romance, for example cathedral of Pécs and the Hungarian mature brick-Romance, for example Ákos (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/58044510.jpg) or the romance phase of the destroyed main church of Székesfehérvár or the cathedral of Esztergom
- Hungarian late Romance, for example abbey of Ják (http://pctrs.network.hu/clubpicture/8/6/8/_/jaki_templom__2006_868230_42213.jpg), or the partially destroyed abbey of Zsámbék (http://www.medicontur.com/files/Contact/Zsambek_.jpg)

14-15th century: the Hungarian Gothic styles: Hungarian synthesis between the French and German gothic styles with Hungarian Romance heritage.
- Hungarian early Gothic, for example the cathedral of Gyulafehérvár (http://www.fordfocus.hu/albums/album1134/DSCF1611.jpg) or the destroyed cathedral of Kalocsa (http://muvtor.btk.ppke.hu/romanika/kalocre3.gif)
- Hungarian mature Gothic, for example the Kecske templom in Sopron (http://static.orszagalbum.hu/nagy/1289665951.jpg) or the destroyed cathedral of Eger or Nagyvárad
- Hungarian late Gothic, for example the Szent Mihály church in Kolozsvár (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/12797173.jpg) or the destroyed late gothic main church of Székesfehérvár, castle of Hunyad (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/38225895.jpg) or the destroyed royal palace of Buda (http://budapestcity.org/10-var/1458-I-Matyas-kora/1470-rekonstrukcios-rajz.jpg), especially the Friss palace (http://mek.oszk.hu/01900/01948/html/cd3m/kepek/torteneti_foldrajz/tf212zl8159.jpg) or the archbishop's palace of Esztergom. (http://www.castrumbene.hu/images/web/cb/2002_7_esztergom_vitez_j._palotaja.jpg)
- The Hungarian brick Gothic (Egervár-school), for example the abbey of Szeged. (http://www.zoldmuves.hu/sites/zoldmuves.hu/files/tervezok/szeged-alsovaros-matyas-ter-es-ferences-kolostor-kertjeinek-rendezese/szegedalsovartos03.jpg)
- Hungarian völkish gothic, for example the wooden belfries in Hungary and Transsylvania, for example in Nyírbátor (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Nyirbator_reftemplom.jpg)

16-17th century: the Hungarian Renaissance styles
- Hungarian mature renaissance, for example Sopronkereszttúr (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/66829700.jpg)
- Hungarian late renaissance, for example Sárospatak (http://static.orszagalbum.hu/nagy/1233092770.jpg)
- Hungarian late renaissance, the Transsylvanian style, for example Bethlenszentmiklós (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-O8_hm93w9r0/TdwJetS57iI/AAAAAAAAD70/-JMK6jD-t2c/s1600/DSC03800.JPG), Fogaras (http://22nap.egologo.transindex.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/163_x_k.jpg)
- Hungarian völkish renaissance. For example the painted ceilings (http://sandorson.fw.hu/Szatmar/24-tak.jpg), or the basic Hungarian rural house form in the Periphery (Highland, Transsylvania), (http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/8326542.jpg) Palóc ház (http://itthon.hu/site/upload/2009/09/kulso3.jpg)

18th century: the Hungarian Baroque styles:
- Hungarian late Baroque, for examplte the cathedral of Vác (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gSqETFJkpDE/TLIf_V_0n3I/AAAAAAAABDY/hlUSwj_CZN0/s1600/P8148128.JPG)
- völkish baroque, the typical Hungarian house form in the Plain and Transdanubia (http://pctrs.network.hu/clubpicture/1/2/6/1/_/halaszi_nepi_epiteszet_remekei_barokk_stilusu_haza k_2011_szeptember_24en_1261818_1812.JPG) and the basic rural manor house type of the rural nobility (http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/67673606.jpg). This is the Hungarian folk art fundamentally.

19th century: the Hungarian premodern styles: the straight continuation of the Hungarian late Baroque with more simplicity in the classicism and Italian influence in the eclecticism.
- Hungarian classicism, for example the county houses (http://utrakelo-irodalom.hu/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/A-r%C3%A9gi-megyeh%C3%A1za.jpg).
- Hungarian eclectisicm, the Hungarian neo-renaissance, the most important Hungarian style. Hungary's characteristic eclectic architecture and the style has a considerable effect on the dual monarchy's architecture. But this is basically a Budapester style, this is the 19th century Budapest. For example the average house in Budapest. (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/28761712.jpg)

20th century: the Hungarian modern and postmodern styles (see above!)
- Hungarian late eclecticism, the national style
- Hungarian völkish modern, the Transsylvanian style
- Hungarian postmodern, the Makovecz style
- Hungarian late völkish modern, the cube-house style (http://maxingatlan.hu/max-office/ingatlanok/11722/SANY0031.png), the last Hungarian folk art from the second half of the 20th century before the cultural industrialization of the rural areas.

I'm not sure that the list is full.

Unimportant styles and with almost no difference from the original and few buildings.
Wallachia and Moldova have fighting for independence and have had more years of indepdence than your homosexual country

blogen
01-12-2014, 02:58 PM
Unimportant styles and with almost no difference from the original and few buildings. Wallachia and Moldova have fighting for independence and have had more years of indepdence than your homosexual country

Thousands and thousands buildings. But you are a Balkanite only, you know nothing about the European culture, because of this you do not see the regional and artistic difference in Europe, than the Chineses between the whites. But I understand this, since for me the Brâncovenesc style is only an average Balkano-Anatolian architecture, from somewhere between Armenia and the Balkan.

ps. Hungary is independent since 1000AD. And we lost my independence only between 1849-1867 and 1944-1989. So this is 937 years of independence and 63 years of occupation. The vassal principalties: Wallachia and Moldova were never indepdendent and the creation of Romania started only in the 19th century, so if we do not count your wandering between India and Romania, then the Romanian freedom is a very young thing.

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 03:07 PM
Thousands and thousands buildings. But you are a Balkanite only, you know nothing about the European culture, because of this you do not see the regional and artistic difference in Europe, than the Chineses between the whites. But I understand this, since for me the Brâncovenesc style is only an average Balkano-Anatolian architecture, from somewhere between Armenia and the Balkan.

ps. Hungary is independent since 1000AD. And we lost my independence only between 1849-1867 and 1944-1989. So this is 937 years of independence and 63 years of occupation. The vassal principalties: Wallachia and Moldova were never indepdendent and the creation of Romania started only in the 19th century, so if we do not count your wandering between India and Romania, then the Romanian freedom is a very young thing.

Epic hunGAYrian nationalist.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Habsburg_Hereditary_Lands_%281789%29.svg
http://www.allaboutturkey.com/img/ottoman-empire-1580.gif

blogen
01-12-2014, 03:18 PM
Epic hunGAYrian nationalist.

What?

Oh yes, you do not know the fundamental European political concepts. For example the personal union, when two or more independent entities have a common ruler! You live in a different world in the Balkan, with different culture, history and political concepts.

Ps. And the Ottomans never conquered the full Hungarian Kingdom.

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 03:21 PM
What?

Oh yes, you do not know the fundamental European political concepts. For example the personal union, when two or more independent entities have a common ruler! And the Ottomans never conquered the full Hungarian Kingdom.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Europe_map_1600.jpg

blogen
01-12-2014, 03:39 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Europe_map_1600.jpg

"Crown of Hungary"

What the "crown*" and the "coronation**" means of course a big enigma for the Balkanites! :D

*independence in the European political law
**declaration of the independence

If, that crown is independent of other entities. And Saint Stephen's Crown is idependent since the Pope sent the crown and not the Holy Roman Emperor. This was moment when a Habsburg apparent to the throne and the Hungarian orders acknowledges it, that in Hungary he is the king and he rule as a king: the coronation. For example the coronation of Matthias II in 1608:

http://mek.niif.hu/00800/00893/html/img/nagy/2e85.jpg

Legitimacy, the fundamental requirement in Europe, but an unknown concept on the Balkan.

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 03:48 PM
"Crown of Hungary"

What the "crown*" and the "coronation**" means of course a big enigma for the Balkanites! :D

*independence in the European political law
**declaration of the independence

If, that crown is independent of other entities. And Saint Stephen's Crown is idependent since the Pope sent the crown and not the Holy Roman Emperor. This was moment when a Habsburg apparent to the throne and the Hungarian orders acknowledges it, that in Hungary he is the king and he rule as a king: the coronation. For example the coronation of Matthias II in 1608:

http://mek.niif.hu/00800/00893/html/img/nagy/2e85.jpg

Legitimacy, the fundamental requirement in Europe, but an unknown concept on the Balkan.

And that means, wallachia and moldova was independents?
I like how you think bozgoria is a superior country for balkan countries :))))))))) =)))))))
Stfu austrians slave

SKYNET
01-12-2014, 03:51 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman%E2%80%93Hungarian_Wars :p

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 03:53 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman%E2%80%93Hungarian_Wars :p

Stop arguing with them, they don't have the balls to accept the bad parts of their own history

blogen
01-12-2014, 04:19 PM
And that means, wallachia and moldova was independents?

No, they did not have an independent crown since their leaders renounced the independence with many occasions. For example Basarab, the Wallachian principality's organizer was the Hungarian king's vassal. The Wallachian principality lost its independence in the European law because of this. The Moldova situation was similar and the principalities never recovered their independence. The Hungarian king acknowledged the successor state Romania as independent on the Berlin congress only.

Coronation of Lipót I (1657 – 1705):
http://mek.niif.hu/00800/00893/html/img/nagy/3245.jpg
One of the flags was flag of Cumania. Cumania was the predecestor entity of Moldova and Wallachia. This was the legal act of the supremacy's manifestation. Franz Joseph was the first king who used the flag symbolically only in the coronation.


I like how you think bozgoria is a superior country for balkan countries :))))))))) =)))))))
Stfu austrians slave

The cursing does not help you. :D

blogen
01-12-2014, 04:20 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman%E2%80%93Hungarian_Wars :p

?

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 04:21 PM
No, they did not have an independent crown since their leaders renounced the independence with many occasions. For example Basarab, the Wallachian principality's organizer was the Hungarian king's vassal. The Wallachian principality lost its independence in the European law because of this. The Moldova situation was similar and the principalities never recovered their independence. The Hungarian king acknowledged the successor state Romania as independent on the Berlin congress only.

Coronation of Lipót I (1657 – 1705):
http://mek.niif.hu/00800/00893/html/img/nagy/3245.jpg
One of the flags was flag of Cumania. Cumania was the predecestor entity of Moldova and Wallachia. This was the legal act of the supremacy's manifestation. Franz Joseph was the first king who used the flag symbolically only in the coronation.



The cursing does not help you. :D

Moldova and Wallachia was vassals and Hungary wasnt a vassal state?

SKYNET
01-12-2014, 04:22 PM
?

?

Kiyant
01-12-2014, 04:23 PM
Moldova and Wallachia was vassals and Hungary wasnt a vassal state?

Difference your "countries" were formed by Turkics who came with the Hungarians (basically their brothers)

blogen
01-12-2014, 04:23 PM
Moldova and Wallachia was vassals and Hungary wasnt a vassal state?

The Hungarian king never made a vassal oath for nobody.

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 04:24 PM
The Hungarian king never made a vassal oath for nobody.

"The Hungarian Revolution of 1848 was one of the many European Revolutions of 1848 and closely linked to other revolutions of 1848 in the Habsburg areas. The revolution in the Kingdom of Hungary grew into a war for independence from the Austrian Empire, ruled by the Habsburg monarchy."

Try next time ;)

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 04:25 PM
Difference your "countries" were formed by Turkics who came with the Hungarians (basically their brothers)

1)??? WHAT?
2) Are you brainless? we are talking about indepedence.

blogen
01-12-2014, 04:36 PM
"The Hungarian Revolution of 1848 was one of the many European Revolutions of 1848 and closely linked to other revolutions of 1848 in the Habsburg areas. The revolution in the Kingdom of Hungary grew into a war for independence from the Austrian Empire, ruled by the Habsburg monarchy."
Try next time ;)

What is this shit? :picard1:

This was the reality from the 1848-49 movements and civil war:

15.03.1848 - liberal revolution in Pest
15.03.1848 - 11.09.1848 - political reform in the kingdom with the king's approval (April Laws)
11.09.1848 - 14.04.1849 - civil war between the conservatives and the liberals
14.04.1849 - the liberals declared the dethronement (the king was acknowledged as a lawful ruler before it)
14.04.1849 - 13.08.1849 - civil war between the loyalists and the rebells
13.08.1849 - the liberal army's capitulation

blogen
01-12-2014, 04:37 PM
1)??? WHAT?
2) Are you brainless? we are talking about indepedence.

Basarab was a Cuman prince and the ancestors of the boyars were mostly Cumans too.

Windischer
01-12-2014, 04:41 PM
Moldova and Wallachia was vassals and Hungary wasnt a vassal state?

no, hungary was under personal union with habsburg dynasty since 16th century. vassal state is generally a land owned by landlord who has made oath of vassalage to his overlord/suzerain. such a "state" is usually called fiefdom and pays tribute to overlord.
modern concept of state was realized in treaty of westphalia (recognition of the dutch republic as an independent state, outside feudal framework of holy roman empire).

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 04:51 PM
no, hungary was under personal union with habsburg dynasty since 16th century. vassal state is generally a land owned by landlord who has made oath of vassalage to his overlord/suzerain. such a "state" is usually called fiefdom and pays tribute to overlord.
modern concept of state was realized in treaty of westphalia (recognition of the dutch republic as an independent state, outside feudal framework of holy roman empire).

And Wallachia and Moldova was the same? Vassal? LOL

Principality of Wallachia (Eflâk Prensliği), 1395–1397, 1417–1861 with some interruptions; briefly annexed as an eyalet from 1521–22 and 1595–96

Principality of Moldavia (Boğdan Prensliği), 1456–1457, 1503–1861 with some interruptions; briefly annexed as an eyalet from 1595–96[2])

Windischer
01-12-2014, 05:03 PM
And Wallachia and Moldova was the same? Vassal? LOL

Principality of Wallachia (Eflâk Prensliği), 1395–1397, 1417–1861 with some interruptions; briefly annexed as an eyalet from 1521–22 and 1595–96

Principality of Moldavia (Boğdan Prensliği), 1456–1457, 1503–1861 with some interruptions; briefly annexed as an eyalet from 1595–96[2])

yes, both principalities were vassals of ottoman empire for a quite long time. but why repeating obvious?

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 05:08 PM
Basarab was a Cuman prince and the ancestors of the boyars were mostly Cumans too.

The Cuman or Pecheneg origin of the name is, however, only a conjecture and a matter of dispute among historians. Contemporaries constantly identified Basarab as a Vlach.[2] Charles I of Hungary speaks of him as Bazarab infidelis Olacus noster ("Bazarab, our treacherous Vlach").

Really?

Kiyant
01-12-2014, 05:15 PM
The Cuman or Pecheneg origin of the name is, however, only a conjecture and a matter of dispute among historians. Contemporaries constantly identified Basarab as a Vlach.[2] Charles I of Hungary speaks of him as Bazarab infidelis Olacus noster ("Bazarab, our treacherous Vlach").

Really?

His real name was Basarabai but when Romanians left the ai out of his name.
Also Basar meant "to rule" in cuman

blogen
01-12-2014, 05:24 PM
The Cuman or Pecheneg origin of the name is, however, only a conjecture and a matter of dispute among historians. Contemporaries constantly identified Basarab as a Vlach.[2] Charles I of Hungary speaks of him as Bazarab infidelis Olacus noster ("Bazarab, our treacherous Vlach").
Really?

- The Basarab and the Thocomerius (his father) name is Cumanian origin.
- They were Catholics and only the Cumanians were Catholics since the Hungarian conversion. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Diocese_of_Cumania)
- etc.

Sorry.


And Wallachia and Moldova was the same? Vassal? LOL

Yes. Since the first princes made a vassal oath.

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 05:26 PM
- The Basarab and the Thocomerius (his father) name is Cumanian origin.
- They were Catholics and only the Cumanians were Catholics since the Hungarian conversion. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Diocese_of_Cumania)
- etc.

Sorry.



Yes. Since the first princes made a vassal oath.

Sorry but he was vlach :(. Anyway in 1-2 years we will see the DNA of Basarabs...
And there's no chronicle what say he was cuman.
And he's name was Ioan(Ivanko) Basarab

blogen
01-12-2014, 05:37 PM
Sorry but he was vlach :(. Anyway in 1-2 years we will see the DNA of Basarabs...

Oh yes. You stopped the examination! :rofl_002:

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 05:51 PM
- The Basarab and the Thocomerius (his father) name is Cumanian origin.
- They were Catholics and only the Cumanians were Catholics since the Hungarian conversion. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Diocese_of_Cumania)
- etc.

Sorry.



Yes. Since the first princes made a vassal oath.

Now I see...why Basarab was catholic? Who said?

blogen
01-12-2014, 06:23 PM
Now I see...why Basarab was catholic? Who said?

Pope John XXII in 01.02.1327.: "Princeps devotus Catholicus". "and dilecto filio, nobili viro Bazarab, voivoda Transalpino"

But their son, Alexandru was Catholic too. More punctually he converted to the Orthodoxy later (possibly 1359).

The assimilation of the Cumanian boyars was parallel to the spread of the Orthodox faith between the Wallachian elite.

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 06:47 PM
Pope John XXII in 01.02.1327.: "Princeps devotus Catholicus". "and dilecto filio, nobili viro Bazarab, voivoda Transalpino"

But their son, Alexandru was Catholic too. More punctually he converted to the Orthodoxy later (possibly 1359).

The assimilation of the Cumanian boyars was parallel to the spread of the Orthodox faith between the Wallachian elite.

The fact that Pope John XXII (1316-1334) addressed Basarab, in 1327, as a ‘devoted Catholic prince’ and praised his actions against the unfaithful seems to show some collaboration between the Romanian voivode and the Catholic world, but the precise details are missing

Windischer
01-12-2014, 06:58 PM
The fact that Pope John XXII (1316-1334) addressed Basarab, in 1327, as a ‘devoted Catholic prince’ and praised his actions against the unfaithful seems to show some collaboration between the Romanian voivode and the Catholic world, but the precise details are missing


the precise detail princeps catholicis is there and quite obvious

Velaxa
01-12-2014, 07:47 PM
the precise detail princeps catholicis is there and quite obvious

This is from wikipedia...
His baptism name was romanian

colony
06-15-2014, 09:26 AM
Transylvania is 95% Hungarian area, all cities, villages (some are Saxoon, Fogaras (Hungarian name) half vlach creature), the people are whiter like the oltenians, castles, buildings, monuments etc etc are Hungarian. Arad is from Árad, Hargita is from Thargitaos Scythian King , Napoca is from Napus the Scythian. Torda was Hun king, Gyulafehérvár means Gyula (Hungarian name from the word ignite-gyullad, gyújtó=zoroastrian bishop who ignite the fire) white castle etc etc. Dicső Béla the Daha Scythian have nothing to Vlachs! Who are a balkanic population and not Scythian. The Vlach name Ardeal is from Hungarian Erdély, Erdő elve forrest land. Ardeal means nothing. Rumanians are symple homeless , bozgor inhabitants of Hungarian Erdély! Vlach moving with Avars, Bulgars. First info of the Vlachs is from Otto kaiser the byzantian , when the Bulgars fought the vlachs helped them. Otto about very primitive ,nomadic, hairy footed shepherds who weared hairy hat.

Erdély will join to Hungary again, Vlachs who were betrayer must go home to Oltenia-Moldova and Uyghurs will come to Erdély as new common people. They are our brothers in Chine, white europid blonde-red haired Scythians and Asian europid tocharians.

Velaxa
06-16-2014, 11:23 AM
This retarded kid, stop creating accouts, you retarded kid, you just spaming the forum, no one cares about your trolling posts.

blogen
06-16-2014, 06:58 PM
This retarded kid, stop creating accouts, you retarded kid, you just spaming the forum, no one cares about your trolling posts.

Do not waste your time on an answer, since we Hungarians ignore him.

Jim Crow
06-16-2014, 07:02 PM
Hungarians are related to Vampires.

GERULA
08-06-2014, 03:09 PM
Hungarians are pussies and their wet dream is that "Transilvania" belongs to them...lol

Cern
08-06-2014, 07:30 PM
Szekler autonomy, it would be a humane and european solution to the problem. This is not a problem for the Romanians and does not affect them adversely. The current situation as in Ceausescu ethos and mentality, and backward medieval barbarity.

GERULA
08-07-2014, 03:28 PM
Szekler autonomy, it would be a humane and european solution to the problem. This is not a problem for the Romanians and does not affect them adversely. The current situation as in Ceausescu ethos and mentality, and backward medieval barbarity.
I m sorry to tell you that many of your neighbors states ( including Romania) are quite pissed at the ridiculous fabricated demands of Hungary, their small steps policy that continues too harass and disrespect the people and their history, ...and can you elaborate on 'humane" and "european solution" ?? Hungary 's stance is not very "humane " and pro "European" lately...

Stears
08-07-2014, 04:18 PM
I m sorry to tell you that many of your neighbors states ( including Romania) are quite pissed at the ridiculous fabricated demands of Hungary, their small steps policy that continues too harass and disrespect the people and their history, ...and can you elaborate on 'humane" and "european solution" ?? Hungary 's stance is not very "humane " and pro "European" lately... Romanians are immigrant late-nomadic Vlachs and eastern Orthodox semi-asian culture, weird less european balkanite genetic make-up, weird wog features and average dwarf stature, and backward infrastructure. Your contribution in science and technology is close to 0.

Stears
08-07-2014, 04:19 PM
I m sorry to tell you that many of your neighbors states ( including Romania) are quite pissed at the ridiculous fabricated demands of Hungary, their small steps policy that continues too harass and disrespect the people and their history, ...and can you elaborate on 'humane" and "european solution" ?? Hungary 's stance is not very "humane " and pro "European" lately...


VLACHS (Romanians) WERE THE LATEST NOMADIC ETHNIC GROUP IN EUROPE. Vlachs were known as late - nomadic people in medieval chronicles. The first romanian vlach churches were built only around the turn of the 13th and 14th century. No known archiutecture existed before that period. The romanian literacy and chronicles appeared only in the 15th century.USE Google books! (The word's largest digitalized library, the largest collection of printed books) See the google book results (search the british american candian authors about medieval romanians Vlachs):


Carleton Stevens Coon: The races of Europe, Page 614
" Vlach colonists are nomads living in black tents like those of ... A greater variation is found in the cephalic index; on the plains of Moldavia and Wallachia, and in the Dobruja"


Robert William Seton-Watson: A history of the Roumanians: from Roman times to the completion of unity, page: 12
"The Roumanians undoubtedly preserved their nomadic habits to a very late date, as is proved by the existence of Vlach colonies in Moravia (the so-called "Little Wallachia" — long since completely Slavised)"


Mandell Creighton, Justin Winsor, Samuel Rawson Gardiner: The English Historical Review page:- 615.
"He shows that the Vlachs of the Balkan peninsula throughout the middle ages are nomads of the strictest type, ... that Vlachs began to move north of the Danube to Wallachia and Transylvania "


Joan E. Durrant, Anne B. Smith Global Pathways to Abolishing Physical Punishment: Realizing Children’s Rights ( PAGE 210)

"Between the 3rd century A.D. and the 14th century A.D., Dacia was invaded successively by nomadic peoples, including the ... Romanians "


Norman Berdichevsky: Nations, Language and Citizenship -page: 181.
"The “true Romanians” are held to be interlopers who were nomadic shepherds that migrated into Transylvania from the ... then transferred to “Wallachia,” the traditional core area of the Romanian state located east and south of Transylvania."


Other elements in the population of Greece are the Wallachians or Vlachs, the Turks, and the Jews, but they have never ... The Wallachians are a curious nomadic race


David Bruce Macdonald - 2002 Balkan Holocausts?: Serbian and Croatian Victim Centered ... page- 131

"These hinterland Romans evolved into highland herdsmen, who for centuries led a primitive nomadic life"


Lampe, John R, Jackson, Marvin R. Balkan Economic History, 1550 - 1950: From Imperial Borderlands to ... page - 612.
"Vlachs had first acquired their commercial connections in the course of moving their livestock seasonally back and forth between high and low ground. ... Alan J.B. Wace and M.S. Thompson, The Nomads of the Balkans (New York: Books for Libraries Press, 1971)"


Jane Perry Clark Carey, Andrew Galbraith Carey : The Web of Modern Greek Politics - page 73
"shepherds and nomadic herdsmen, wandering through the Balkans and the north of Greece. On their early migrations they gave the Vlach name to various districts, including the province of Wallachia in present-day Romania"


Chambers's Encyclopedia - Volume 14. page:- 339.
"The Vlachs are usually mentioned as following nomadic or semi-nomadic lives as shepherds etc. in wild mountain ... nth century was known as 'Great Wallachia' and seems to have contained a relatively dense and settled Vlach population."


Denys Hay: Europe in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries page: 220
"In the first half of the fourteenth century there also appeared there the two Romanian principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia. ... or whether the Hungarians are right in their thesis that these Vlachs were recently immigrated nomadic shepherds"


Frank Moore Colby, Talcott Williams, Herbert Treadwell Wade: The New International Encyclopaedia Voluma 20. Page: 219
"Owing to their nomadic and predatory dispositions these Vlachs, as they are called by the Greek writers, were a ... the autonomous Rumanian principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia, which grew rapidly towards south and east until the former"


Isaiah Bowman: The New World: Problems in Political Geography page - 282
"or Wallachians The Rumanians, or Wallachs (hence Wallachia), are of mixed race but of distinct speech, the Ruman, ... Home places of the nomadic Vlachs The Vlachs , Rumanian nomadism is seen in its purest form among the detached"


Norman Angell : Peace Theories And The Balkan War page: - 107.
"It had been founded by a conquering caste of non-Slavonic nomads from the trans-Danubian steppes, but these were completely ... This Bulgarian state included a large 'Vlach' element descended from those Latin-speaking provincials whom the Slavs had pushed ... had established itself in the mountains of Transylvania, and was just beginning to push down into the Wallachian and Moldavian plains"


Tibor Frank, Frank Hadler : Disputed territories and shared pasts: overlapping national histories in modern Europe, page: 251
"Reference to Romanians in their preunification (1859) history was linked to the regional designation of Wallachia (today Oltenia and Muntenia) to the south ... This designation relates to the nomadic existence of the Balkan Vlach population."


Paul Coles : The Ottoman Impact on Europe - page: 114
" nomadic pastoralism provided a new lease of life for the Rumanian-speaking Vlachs, migratory herdsmen whose native principalities of Moldavia and Wallachia had fallen under Ottoman dominion during the fifteenth century"


Wace, Alan J. B. and Maurice S. Thompson. .:
"The Nomads of the Balkans: An Account of Life and Custom Among the Vlachs of Northern Pindus."

Stears
08-07-2014, 04:20 PM
I m sorry to tell you that many of your neighbors states ( including Romania) are quite pissed at the ridiculous fabricated demands of Hungary, their small steps policy that continues too harass and disrespect the people and their history, ...and can you elaborate on 'humane" and "european solution" ?? Hungary 's stance is not very "humane " and pro "European" lately...

In the reality, the late-nomadic Vlachs (romanians) migrated from Bulgaria and South-Eastern Serbia to the present-day territory of Romania in the 13th century. The daco-romanian continuity myth is not generally accepted, that's why all major Western Encyclopedias (E.Encarta, E. Britannica, E.Americana, German Brockhaus, French Larousse etc...) mention the romanian state-supported daco-romanian myth, but they are also mention the reality: the Vlach migration from the Balkans in the 13th century..


Vlachs (medieval romanians) were the latest people who introduced the literacy in Europe, and they were one of the latest shepherd nomadic people in Europe. (There were no orthodox bishopry in medieval Vallachia Moldavia, most monks came from Serbia). Due to the lack of literacy and own history writting (chronicles) until the 15th century, the poor romanians had to built up a "speculative history-writting" (or fabricated history), where speculations based on earlier speculations and fictions etc..

There are no material proofs (cemetries cultic places) which can support the romanian (vlach) existence in present-day territory of romania before the 1200s. There are no CONTEMPORARY written documents about the existence Vlachs in the territory of later Vallachia Moldavia Transylvania before the 1200s.


WERE WERE YOU HIDING for 800 years dear "daco"-romans?

The neo-latin elements in Romanian language remain the best proof agaist daco-roman theory. Unlike other neo-latin languages, there are no proofs for development of dacian language into a neo-latin language, because there are not remained dacian vocabulary for the posterior. The dacian conquest was the shortest lasting conquest of the Roman Empire in Europe, it lasted only 160years, the relations between the roman legions and dacians remianed hostile. (Note: The contemporary multi-ethnic legionaries were Roman citizens, but they were recruited from various primarily multinational, non-Latin provinces, so THEY WERE NOT ROMANS ) This very short & hostile circumstance are not an ideal contingency for romanization process. There are no CONTEMPORARY historic records for the survive of dacians after the Roman withdrawal, and later the territory was the FOCAL POINT of great migrations (serials of many strong powerfull and brutal barbaric tribes and people such as Huns, Goths, Gepids Longobards, Avars, Pechenegs and Cumans.). There are tons of contemporary written documents (chronicles from early medieval to high medieval age etc.) about the sheprherd nomad Vlachs in Balkan peninsula, but there are no material or written proofs for their existence in the present-day territory of Romania before the 1200s. However the roman rule lasted for 500+ years in many territories of Balkan peninsula (where vlachs were often mentioned by many early medieval chronicles) There is also no trace of lingual influence from any of the other peoples who lived in Transylvania after the withdrawal of the Romans, the Huns, Goths, Gepids Longobards, Avars, Pechenegs and Cumans. If these languages did not have any influence on the Rumanian language, we can be sure that this is proof that at that time there were no Wallachian settlers in Transylvania.



The territory of later Wallachia region belonged to the Bulgarians first, later it came under Byzantine rule. Both Moldavia and Wallachia became occupied and ruled by the Cumans. Later your principalities became vassal state of the Hungarian kings and Polish kings, than romanians became an Ottoman province until 1878.

Phularion
08-07-2014, 04:27 PM
Sezekils should be massmurdered as their inferior steppic hunnic khazars ancestors.

Phularion
08-07-2014, 04:32 PM
Funny how Stears repeats the same thing ever and ever, almost to convience himself about somethnig.

Stears
08-07-2014, 04:33 PM
Sezekils should be massmurdered as their inferior steppic hunnic khazars ancestors. Hungarians and their language are not related to turks. Just open a famous western (english french or german) encyclopedia, or read the books of academic scientists or scholars. Vast majority of Romania Hungary Slovakia Bulgaria, Southern Ukraine located on the Eurasian Steppe belt. So what are you talking about? You are descendants of late nomadic people, who lived in tents until the turn of 14-15th century..

GERULA
08-08-2014, 01:45 PM
Hungarians and their language are not related to turks. Just open a famous western (english french or german) encyclopedia, or read the books of academic scientists or scholars. Vast majority of Romania Hungary Slovakia Bulgaria, Southern Ukraine located on the Eurasian Steppe belt. So what are you talking about? You are descendants of late nomadic people, who lived in tents until the turn of 14-15th century..
LOL....you pissed of aren't you ??? I for one know where I belong ....and so do all Romanians ...direct descendants from the Thracians ...we lived in here for aeons...and the historical record to show ...all you have is a stupid rhetoric coming from your demented leaders from the past which degenerated today into a failure to see the reality and embrace it...we are a global village ...we should unite under our European home where there is room for all of us ...but nooooo...creatures like you want blood...and to re write the history...

Stears
08-09-2014, 06:39 AM
LOL....you pissed of aren't you ??? I for one know where I belong ....and so do all Romanians ...direct descendants from the Thracians ...we lived in here for aeons...and the historical record to show ...all you have is a stupid rhetoric coming from your demented leaders from the past which degenerated today into a failure to see the reality and embrace it...we are a global village ...we should unite under our European home where there is room for all of us ...but nooooo...creatures like you want blood...and to re write the history... Wrong. You came from the balkan peninsula as late nomadic people in the 13th century. As all contemporary chronicles stated, you were in the balkan peninsula. Your existence have no material archeological proofs before that time. Global village? In western Europe, large ancient aboriginal minorities have autonomy rights, only romanians try to avoid this, because your state is based on the 18th century crude french jacobin nation-state ideology.

Velaxa
08-09-2014, 08:33 AM
Wrong. You came from the balkan peninsula as late nomadic people in the 13th century. As all contemporary chronicles stated, you were in the balkan peninsula. Your existence have no material archeological proofs before that time. Global village? In western Europe, large ancient aboriginal minorities have autonomy rights, only romanians try to avoid this, because your state is based on the 18th century crude french jacobin nation-state ideology.

Hahaha, theres are no chronicles with vlach migration. I posted for many times the reasons why we are dacians. Anyway, if we are from Balkans or from Dacia we are from Europe, our nation formed in Europe. Magyar nation formed in Asia.

Stears
08-09-2014, 03:53 PM
Hahaha, theres are no chronicles with vlach migration. I posted for many times the reasons why we are dacians. Anyway, if we are from Balkans or from Dacia we are from Europe, our nation formed in Europe. Magyar nation formed in Asia. There are many about your existence on balkan peninsula. There are no contemporary chronicles which mention the existence of vlachs (romanians) in present -day romania before the 13th century. There are no material archeological evidence before the 13th century. Similarly , there are no mention of the existence of dacians after the roman withdrawal... Their hostility with romans remained. Dacian language/vocabulary is not known. There are no proofs for the development of dacian into neo latino language. However you have high ratio of albanian words and balkanite southern slavic words in your old language (before your language reformation . The roforms significantly increased the neo-latino elements in romani-an language, like the adoption of modern french and italian phrases and words.)

Voorpost
08-09-2014, 04:26 PM
There are many about your existence on balkan peninsula. There are no contemporary chronicles which mention the existence of vlachs (romanians) in present -day romania before the 13th century. There are no material archeological evidence before the 13th century. Similarly , there are no mention of the existence of dacians after the roman withdrawal... Their hostility with romans remained. Dacian language/vocabulary is not known. There are no proofs for the development of dacian into neo latino language. However you have high ratio of albanian words and balkanite southern slavic words in your old language (before your language reformation . The roforms significantly increased the neo-latino elements in romani-an language, like the adoption of modern french and italian phrases and words.)

Not any ethnic dacian were vlachized romanians, but we know for sure that those groups inhabited the region for eons before any IE expansion, and there is plenty of material trepassing the Roman epoque, suggesting that some remained befor and after their absorbtion in the Roman empire and other cultures around that envolved lately also all other invasions that occured. And how can they presumely not have been any remains of them since their hostility still remained, as you are saying ? This has no sens, and as you say afterwards, there are high cognition of albanian conotypes in romanian words, suggesting that both were related very long time ago, how can that not be a possible link to ancient Dacian language ?

Btw, I am still stupefied how Hungarians are accusing many nation/ethnic groups of "late nomadism" while we know for eons that you descend from tribal central asian conquerors that brought with them proto-magyars and other late asiaitc nomads (such as cumans) with them and got involved into magyarification of your nation (not mentionnig all other people around it) It sounds amlost is if it is the opposite world coming from your part saying others are nomads while you descend from them. Even slavs didn't moved as far as they are to be called nomads (which they aren't)

Stears
08-09-2014, 05:27 PM
Not any ethnic dacian were vlachized romanians, but we know for sure that those groups inhabited the region for eons before any IE expansion, and there is plenty of material trepassing the Roman epoque, suggesting that some remained befor and after their absorbtion in the Roman empire and other cultures around that envolved lately also all other invasions that occured. And how can they presumely not have been any remains of them since their hostility still remained, as you are saying ? This has no sens, and as you say afterwards, there are high cognition of albanian conotypes in romanian words, suggesting that both were related very long time ago, how can that not be a possible link to ancient Dacian language ? Btw, I am still stupefied how Hungarians are accusing many nation/ethnic groups of "late nomadism" while we know for eons that you descend from tribal central asian conquerors that brought with them proto-magyars and other late asiaitc nomads (such as cumans) with them and got involved into magyarification of your nation (not mentionnig all other people around it) It sounds amlost is if it is the opposite world coming from your part saying others are nomads while you descend from them. Even slavs didn't moved as far as they are to be called nomads (which they aren't) Hungarians have never lived in central Asia. High medieval romanians were nomadic people. (late nomadism) Cumans are not related to Hungarians because they are turkic speaking population, while Hungarians are finno-ugric. What is magyarification? It is not proven that the conquerors could speak the ancestors of Hungarian language, it is just a hipotesis. Both balkanites and slavs and n-germans are genetically less european than Hungarians.

Stears
08-09-2014, 05:28 PM
Not any ethnic dacian were vlachized romanians, but we know for sure that those groups inhabited the region for eons before any IE expansion, and there is plenty of material trepassing the Roman epoque, suggesting that some remained befor and after their absorbtion in the Roman empire and other cultures around that envolved lately also all other invasions that occured. And how can they presumely not have been any remains of them since their hostility still remained, as you are saying ? This has no sens, and as you say afterwards, there are high cognition of albanian conotypes in romanian words, suggesting that both were related very long time ago, how can that not be a possible link to ancient Dacian language ?

Btw, I am still stupefied how Hungarians are accusing many nation/ethnic groups of "late nomadism" while we know for eons that you descend from tribal central asian conquerors that brought with them proto-magyars and other late asiaitc nomads (such as cumans) with them and got involved into magyarification of your nation (not mentionnig all other people around it) It sounds amlost is if it is the opposite world coming from your part saying others are nomads while you descend from them. Even slavs didn't moved as far as they are to be called nomads (which they aren't)


VLACHS (Romanians) WERE THE LATEST NOMADIC ETHNIC GROUP IN EUROPE. Vlachs were known as late - nomadic people in medieval chronicles. The first romanian vlach churches were built only around the turn of the 13th and 14th century. No known archiutecture existed before that period. The romanian literacy and chronicles appeared only in the 15th century.USE Google books! (The word's largest digitalized library, the largest collection of printed books) See the google book results (search the british american candian authors about medieval romanians Vlachs):


Carleton Stevens Coon: The races of Europe, Page 614
" Vlach colonists are nomads living in black tents like those of ... A greater variation is found in the cephalic index; on the plains of Moldavia and Wallachia, and in the Dobruja"


Robert William Seton-Watson: A history of the Roumanians: from Roman times to the completion of unity, page: 12
"The Roumanians undoubtedly preserved their nomadic habits to a very late date, as is proved by the existence of Vlach colonies in Moravia (the so-called "Little Wallachia" — long since completely Slavised)"


Mandell Creighton, Justin Winsor, Samuel Rawson Gardiner: The English Historical Review page:- 615.
"He shows that the Vlachs of the Balkan peninsula throughout the middle ages are nomads of the strictest type, ... that Vlachs began to move north of the Danube to Wallachia and Transylvania "


Joan E. Durrant, Anne B. Smith Global Pathways to Abolishing Physical Punishment: Realizing Children’s Rights ( PAGE 210)

"Between the 3rd century A.D. and the 14th century A.D., Dacia was invaded successively by nomadic peoples, including the ... Romanians "


Norman Berdichevsky: Nations, Language and Citizenship -page: 181.
"The “true Romanians” are held to be interlopers who were nomadic shepherds that migrated into Transylvania from the ... then transferred to “Wallachia,” the traditional core area of the Romanian state located east and south of Transylvania."


Other elements in the population of Greece are the Wallachians or Vlachs, the Turks, and the Jews, but they have never ... The Wallachians are a curious nomadic race


David Bruce Macdonald - 2002 Balkan Holocausts?: Serbian and Croatian Victim Centered ... page- 131

"These hinterland Romans evolved into highland herdsmen, who for centuries led a primitive nomadic life"


Lampe, John R, Jackson, Marvin R. Balkan Economic History, 1550 - 1950: From Imperial Borderlands to ... page - 612.
"Vlachs had first acquired their commercial connections in the course of moving their livestock seasonally back and forth between high and low ground. ... Alan J.B. Wace and M.S. Thompson, The Nomads of the Balkans (New York: Books for Libraries Press, 1971)"


Jane Perry Clark Carey, Andrew Galbraith Carey : The Web of Modern Greek Politics - page 73
"shepherds and nomadic herdsmen, wandering through the Balkans and the north of Greece. On their early migrations they gave the Vlach name to various districts, including the province of Wallachia in present-day Romania"


Chambers's Encyclopedia - Volume 14. page:- 339.
"The Vlachs are usually mentioned as following nomadic or semi-nomadic lives as shepherds etc. in wild mountain ... nth century was known as 'Great Wallachia' and seems to have contained a relatively dense and settled Vlach population."


Denys Hay: Europe in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries page: 220
"In the first half of the fourteenth century there also appeared there the two Romanian principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia. ... or whether the Hungarians are right in their thesis that these Vlachs were recently immigrated nomadic shepherds"


Frank Moore Colby, Talcott Williams, Herbert Treadwell Wade: The New International Encyclopaedia Voluma 20. Page: 219
"Owing to their nomadic and predatory dispositions these Vlachs, as they are called by the Greek writers, were a ... the autonomous Rumanian principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia, which grew rapidly towards south and east until the former"


Isaiah Bowman: The New World: Problems in Political Geography page - 282
"or Wallachians The Rumanians, or Wallachs (hence Wallachia), are of mixed race but of distinct speech, the Ruman, ... Home places of the nomadic Vlachs The Vlachs , Rumanian nomadism is seen in its purest form among the detached"


Norman Angell : Peace Theories And The Balkan War page: - 107.
"It had been founded by a conquering caste of non-Slavonic nomads from the trans-Danubian steppes, but these were completely ... This Bulgarian state included a large 'Vlach' element descended from those Latin-speaking provincials whom the Slavs had pushed ... had established itself in the mountains of Transylvania, and was just beginning to push down into the Wallachian and Moldavian plains"


Tibor Frank, Frank Hadler : Disputed territories and shared pasts: overlapping national histories in modern Europe, page: 251
"Reference to Romanians in their preunification (1859) history was linked to the regional designation of Wallachia (today Oltenia and Muntenia) to the south ... This designation relates to the nomadic existence of the Balkan Vlach population."


Paul Coles : The Ottoman Impact on Europe - page: 114
" nomadic pastoralism provided a new lease of life for the Rumanian-speaking Vlachs, migratory herdsmen whose native principalities of Moldavia and Wallachia had fallen under Ottoman dominion during the fifteenth century"


Wace, Alan J. B. and Maurice S. Thompson. .:
"The Nomads of the Balkans: An Account of Life and Custom Among the Vlachs of Northern Pindus."

Stears
08-09-2014, 05:30 PM
Not any ethnic dacian were vlachized romanians, but we know for sure that those groups inhabited the region for eons before any IE expansion, and there is plenty of material trepassing the Roman epoque, suggesting that some remained befor and after their absorbtion in the Roman empire and other cultures around that envolved lately also all other invasions that occured. And how can they presumely not have been any remains of them since their hostility still remained, as you are saying ? This has no sens, and as you say afterwards, there are high cognition of albanian conotypes in romanian words, suggesting that both were related very long time ago, how can that not be a possible link to ancient Dacian language ? Btw, I am still stupefied how Hungarians are accusing many nation/ethnic groups of "late nomadism" while we know for eons that you descend from tribal central asian conquerors that brought with them proto-magyars and other late asiaitc nomads (such as cumans) with them and got involved into magyarification of your nation (not mentionnig all other people around it) It sounds amlost is if it is the opposite world coming from your part saying others are nomads while you descend from them. Even slavs didn't moved as far as they are to be called nomads (which they aren't) Are you a new romanian sockpuppet, or a romanian dustman in Italy?

Fakirbakir
08-09-2014, 06:02 PM
Here is a map depicting the boundaries of the autonomous Szeklerland, proposed by the Szekler National Council.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/Szeklerland-planned_seats.png

The new coat of arms and flag of Partium will be announced by the Hungarian National Council of Transylvania in September.
http://www.imagesup.net/?di=314076069530

Voorpost
08-09-2014, 06:26 PM
Hungarians have never lived in central Asia. High medieval romanians were nomadic people. (late nomadism) Cumans are not related to Hungarians because they are turkic speaking population, while Hungarians are finno-ugric. What is magyarification? It is not proven that the conquerors could speak the ancestors of Hungarian language, it is just a hipotesis. Both balkanites and slavs and n-germans are genetically less european than Hungarians.

Of course they did, and your finno-uralic ancestors were probably a mix of both east and western population located in the ourals at that time. By mentionning central asia, I was reffering to your local heros, such as Attila who was surely a hun, and probably brought with him other central asian population throughout his migration into europe and contribute to the formation of early hungaria. And your language has a lot of slavic substrate and other turkic words in it, but still doesn't reflect them, probably you're right that hungarian languages was surely unknown, and balkan people are basically neolithic paleolithic european people with unspecified and uncertain affiliation ,the oldest genetic european marker being I2c alongside with Ev13 thracian. Probably hungarians have a lot more euroasian genetic markers than any european nation, not sure in what % though.

and again this is the same meaningless thing you're posting, while historias argue that during the time of antiauity and late helladic greek civilisation there was a continous flow of population between the ethnic inhabitants of carpathian basin and those around it (includeing northwest romania, southeast etc ...), so basically vlach or not, those people were heavely linked together, and genetics to also to point towards this direction.

Btw, you should more worry about what's going in your contry than some "transylvanian" hungarians who were brought there as guardmen rather than as people ...

Stears
08-09-2014, 06:34 PM
Of course they did, and your finno-uralic ancestors were probably a mix of both east and western population located in the ourals at that time. By mentionning central asia, I was reffering to your local heros, such as Attila who was surely a hun, and probably brought with him other central asian population throughout his migration into europe and contribute to the formation of early hungaria. And your language has a lot of slavic substrate and other turkic words in it, but still doesn't reflect them, probably you're right that hungarian languages was surely unknown, and balkan people are basically neolithic paleolithic european people with unspecified and uncertain affiliation ,the oldest genetic european marker being I2c alongside with Ev13 thracian. Probably hungarians have a lot more euroasian genetic markers than any european nation, not sure in what % though. Can you prove with academic sources books that Attila and Huns are related to Magyar people (Hungarians)? No. There are no central asian markers in Hungary (like haplogroup Q)



Hungarians are genetically more european than most slavic speaking people (who contain more Asian mongoloid Y and mt.DNA haplogroup markers), but all Northern Germanic nations (incl. Northern Germany too) have higher ratio of Mongolid haplogroup markers . See the ratio of Central Asian haplogroup „Q” and the other mongoloid haplogroup marker „N” (aka. N1C1) markers in the genetic CHART of European nations:

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

And see the high ratio of middle-eastern haplogroup markers (various „J” and african E1b1) in all balkan populations (inc. Romania). De facto, these nations populations genetically are less European than Hungarians.
Do not forget that vast majority of balkan population is not only genetically but anthropogically less white (average darker eye and hair color, skin tone) so-called „WOG” people. Just type in google image searcher: „eye color map” , „hair color map”.

Skin tone map:
http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/Map_of_skin_hue_equi.png

Hair color map
http://uclahealthservices.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/hair_color_map_europe.png

Eye color map:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ilng4Lm9CI0/UKoaYrEoD_I/AAAAAAAAATw/8NebRqUEAOk/s1600/eyecolour.png

Stears
08-09-2014, 06:36 PM
Romanians like balkanites looks weird, the average pigmentation (eye hair color) is very dark. The average body stature of romanians are low. You have weird look faces due to your less european genetic make-up. And I did not mention your easter (semi-asian) primitive orthodox culture. Do not forget your zero contribution in science and technology and arts. The average infrastructure of your country is not really european level...

Velaxa
08-10-2014, 11:10 AM
Here is a map depicting the boundaries of the autonomous Szeklerland, proposed by the Szekler National Council.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/Szeklerland-planned_seats.png

The new coat of arms and flag of Partium will be announced by the Hungarian National Council of Transylvania in September.
http://www.imagesup.net/?di=314076069530


I understand the Szekely land, theres are a lot of hungarians bla bla, but the Partium? Your country will really have problems with Romania and you will dont like it.

Stears
08-10-2014, 11:19 AM
I understand the Szekely land, theres are a lot of hungarians bla bla, but the Partium? Your country will really have problems with Romania and you will dont like it. Yes, romania must give up with its late 18th century french Jacobin-era nation-state ideology.

Zmey Gorynych
08-10-2014, 11:29 AM
Autonomy huh !? As romanians say: da pula cui !? and the answer is undoubtebly: Ria, Ria, Hungária! :laugh:

Fakirbakir
08-10-2014, 01:49 PM
I understand the Szekely land, theres are a lot of hungarians bla bla, but the Partium? Your country will really have problems with Romania and you will dont like it.

It has nothing to do with Hungary. The idea of autonomous region for ethnic Hungarians in western Romania (Partium) is proposed by a Romanian non-governmental organization (Hungarian National Council of Transylvania / Consiliul Național al Maghiarilor din Transilvania / CNMT). The "Council for Autonomy in Partium" is a subunit organization of CNMT.

Velaxa
08-10-2014, 02:31 PM
It has nothing to do with Hungary. The idea of autonomous region for ethnic Hungarians in western Romania (Partium) is proposed by a Romanian non-governmental organization (Hungarian National Council of Transylvania / Consiliul Național al Maghiarilor din Transilvania / CNMT). The "Council for Autonomy in Partium" is a subunit organization of CNMT.

They are brainless, Romania will have economic regions, separated from Bucharest. And is funny,in Satu Mare, Bihor and Salaj the romanians are the majority.

Phularion
08-11-2014, 06:29 PM
Hungarians and their language are not related to turks. Just open a famous western (english french or german) encyclopedia, or read the books of academic scientists or scholars. Vast majority of Romania Hungary Slovakia Bulgaria, Southern Ukraine located on the Eurasian Steppe belt. So what are you talking about? You are descendants of late nomadic people, who lived in tents until the turn of 14-15th century..

Tents in Romania ? are you kidding ? you want me to show early chronicles of your inferior steppic sandniggers that were ratting in east asia before the rathole known as Hungaria came to existence ? You really are a deep shit stained inferior untermensch that has nothing to do in europe, hell it would take a pleasure to deport the entire subhuman nation/race that is Hungaria and bring it back to central asia where they can root/dwell in silence with their already uncivil and inferior tent-like behaviour.

Stears
08-11-2014, 06:43 PM
Tents in Romania ? are you kidding ? you want me to show early chronicles of your inferior steppic sandniggers that were ratting in east asia before the rathole known as Hungaria came to existence ? You really are a deep shit stained inferior untermensch that has nothing to do in europe, hell it would take a pleasure to deport the entire subhuman nation/race that is Hungaria and bring it back to central asia where they can root/dwell in silence with their already uncivil and inferior tent-like behaviour. Byzantine chronicles stated: Carleton Stevens Coon: The races of Europe, Page 614 " Vlach colonists are nomads living in black tents. Of course all medieval sources (Polish Byzantine Hungarian Kievian Nistor) are anti romanian and nationalist HAhahahah (even before the 18th century appear of nationalism)

Phularion
08-11-2014, 07:25 PM
Byzantine chronicles stated: Carleton Stevens Coon: The races of Europe, Page 614 " Vlach colonists are nomads living in black tents

shome me a living example of a "Black tent" ( :lol: )

whereas I have some nasty historians arguing about the sub-human tent-dwelling race called Hungayrians during antiquity.

History of Hungary By Denis Sinor

As nomadic peoples generally do, the Hungarians disliked towns, and even houses, to which they preferred tents. According to Otto von Freisingen, as late as the middle of the twelfth century, summer and autumn were still spent under tents".

Though, geographically speaking, of European origin, the Hungarians
who settled in the Danube valley were spiritually and materially,
Asiatics, and belonged to the great Central Euroasiatic cultural family whose
members lived dispersed form the Danube to China, from Persia and
India to the Arctic. The Hungarian bows and arrows...were of exactly the same
type as those used in Central Asia.

The experience the Magyars left with the Western world was so
traumatic that even generations later people form the West saw the Hungarians
as apocalyptic monsters. Bishop Otto of Freysing spoke of the exterior of
the Hungarians as ‘ferocious' at the time of the Crusades Their eyes
are sunken,their stature is short,their behavior wild,their language
barbarous,so that one can either accuse fate or marvel at divine
patience for having permitted these monsters the possession of an enchanting
land

and there's never been any archeologically found tents in Romania, they rather lived more in villages.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RGDgT6ehpk&feature=share

so you should stop trolling, or i'll post an entire thread about how sandniggers you are, gypsy magyarok.

Phularion
08-11-2014, 07:34 PM
Byzantine chronicles stated: Carleton Stevens Coon: The races of Europe, Page 614 " Vlach colonists are nomads living in black tents. Of course all medieval sources (Polish Byzantine Hungarian Kievian Nistor) are anti romanian and nationalist HAhahahah (even before the 18th century appear of nationalism)

Ahmad ibn Rustah (Xth Cent AD). Persian explorer and geographer

“The Magyars are a race of Turks and their leader rides out with 20,000 horsemen and this king is called k.nd.h and this name denotes their king, for the name of the man who is actually king over them is ĝ.l.h and all the Magyars accept the orders of their ĝ.l.h in the matter of war and defense and the like.”

From George Kedrenos (12th century).

(Describing the events which took place in 895).
"The Emperor had sent the Patrician Skllerous to the Turks WHO were
CALLED Hungarians (Oungroi) to convince them to cross the Danube and attack the
Bulgarians..."

hungarovskys being milked and ruled by Turks.
In fact, this is a living proof that you are a race of cumans, gypo-tartars :lol: and pathetic sandniggers.

Stears
08-11-2014, 07:37 PM
shome me a living example of a "Black tent" ( :lol: ) whereas I have some nasty historians arguing about the sub-human tent-dwelling race called Hungayrians during antiquity. History of Hungary By Denis Sinor As nomadic peoples generally do, the Hungarians disliked towns, and even houses, to which they preferred tents. According to Otto von Freisingen, as late as the middle of the twelfth century, summer and autumn were still spent under tents". Though, geographically speaking, of European origin, the Hungarians who settled in the Danube valley were spiritually and materially, Asiatics, and belonged to the great Central Euroasiatic cultural family whose members lived dispersed form the Danube to China, from Persia and India to the Arctic. The Hungarian bows and arrows...were of exactly the same type as those used in Central Asia. The experience the Magyars left with the Western world was so traumatic that even generations later people form the West saw the Hungarians as apocalyptic monsters. Bishop Otto of Freysing spoke of the exterior of the Hungarians as ‘ferocious' at the time of the Crusades Their eyes are sunken,their stature is short,their behavior wild,their language barbarous,so that one can either accuse fate or marvel at divine patience for having permitted these monsters the possession of an enchanting land and there's never been any archeologically found tents in Romania, they rather lived more in villages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RGDgT6ehpk&feature=share so you should stop trolling, or i'll post an entire thread about how sandniggers you are, gypsy magyarok. Romanians were nomadic people until the early modern era. The las nomadic nation. They had no literacy an own chronicle, they had not clergy (you must import serbian clergy until the 17t century) You are unable to build even normal churches, you built only hovel-like churches and wooden churches. The infrastructure of your country was always on non-european level. Your social and cultural development is also semi-asian like armenia. Your look (darky pigmentation wide down-sydrome head, your low stature), due to your less european genes makes you gypsy. It is not a coincidence, that western European confuse you with gypsies. In Hungarian language oláhok word means gypsy people and ethnic romanians too.

Phularion
08-11-2014, 07:38 PM
Stears the pathetic sub-human getting lynched as usual, an inferior race of turan sub-humans remains an inferior race of turan sub-humans.

Now even Armenia is semi-asian, while you are an armenoid sluted nation.

Phularion
08-11-2014, 07:48 PM
Romanians were nomadic people until the early modern era. The las nomadic nation. They had no literacy an own chronicle, they had not clergy (you must import serbian clergy until the 17t century) You are unable to build even normal churches, you built only hovel-like churches and wooden churches. The infrastructure of your country was always on non-european level. Your social and cultural development is also semi-asian like armenia. Your look (darky pigmentation wide down-sydrome head, your low stature), due to your less european genes makes you gypsy. It is not a coincidence, that western European confuse you with gypsies. In Hungarian language oláhok word means gypsy people and ethnic romanians too.

same shit twice, wait let me show a little be more.

From " De Administrado Imperio"by Constantine Porphyrogenitus

(Byzantine Emperor,950AD)
"These eight clans of the TURKS(Hungarians) do not obey their own
particular princes...,They have for their first chief the prince who comes by succession of Arpad's family..."

From "The Mongols" By Jeremiah Curtin

"Five groups of Mongols have made themselves famous in Europe:The
Huns with their mighty chief Attila,the Magyars,The Turks or Osmanli,the
Mongol invaders of Russia..."

From "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" By Edward Gibbon.

"The(Hungarians) are distinguished by the Greeks under the proper and
peculiar name of Turks, as descendants of that people who had conquered and reigned form China to the Volga (referring to the Mongols)".


Hungarians: turko-gypsis from the steps
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/nomadic-tent-bosztorpuszta-hungary-20713471.jpg

Embrace your filthy turan tziganism from where you belong, asian nigger.

Stears
08-11-2014, 07:54 PM
Too feel the difference: Medieval romanian vlach churches and cathedrals:

http://www.eliznik.org.uk/RomaniaViews/churches/moldovita.jpg https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQo9_0ylmSbcFRYLrLmZFuxBC7Wum6bs DQepfONpRCicSY1lSr2 [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSEKMgHjNqgPidajdw8UHXHAF6S2Raa_ tXSiuI_nZShQND6pBrz2Q [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNpWfFWH3bubxhsEgWWS-Zytbynp0ftH8qsDbb8iK7z-vSTiDU [IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-e0b9Kk7Kxw0/TaAM4Emqo7I/AAAAAAAAEoc/8c8vGy9AZn0/s1600/2011_0330_115462.jpg http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/28186417.jpg

Stears
08-11-2014, 07:56 PM
Compare it with the Hungarians (which are real western cathedrals and palaces. FEEL THE DIFFERENCE!



Medieval Hungarian Culture (palaces churches, paintings, sculpture, music and fine-arts) WATCH IT IN FULL HD!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6aZDB4JlBU

Phularion
08-11-2014, 08:10 PM
MOAR from the turano-mongoloid people called the MAGAYRS.

From "Britanica" Hungarian.

"The proto-Hungarians were apparently an ethnic blend of
Ugric(Mongoloid) and Turkish peoples living in western Siberia...The Hungarians were
the scourge of Europe,raiding as far afield as Bremen,Orleans and
Constantinople(the English word OGRE-a men eating man,hideous cruel
man,is a corruption of HUNGAR,attests to their notoriety).

From "1000 years of Hungary" By Emil Lengyel.

"(Hungarian) Folklore speaks about NIMROD the giant,who had two
sons,HUNOR and HAGAR.The former was the ancestor of the HUNS,and MAGOR was the ancestor of the MAGYARS."

Stears closest relatives.
http://users.comcen.com.au/~didierm/Update/Imagesjournal/Mongolia%202/family.jpg

Stears
08-12-2014, 04:24 AM
MOAR from the turano-mongoloid people called the MAGAYRS. From "Britanica" Hungarian. "The proto-Hungarians were apparently an ethnic blend of Ugric(Mongoloid) and Turkish peoples living in western Siberia...The Hungarians were the scourge of Europe,raiding as far afield as Bremen,Orleans and Constantinople(the English word OGRE-a men eating man,hideous cruel man,is a corruption of HUNGAR,attests to their notoriety). From "1000 years of Hungary" By Emil Lengyel. "(Hungarian) Folklore speaks about NIMROD the giant,who had two sons,HUNOR and HAGAR.The former was the ancestor of the HUNS,and MAGOR was the ancestor of the MAGYARS." Stears closest relatives. http://users.comcen.com.au/~didierm/Update/Imagesjournal/Mongolia%202/family.jpg I can also edit the Britannica online version. Roughly 60% of Encyclopćdia Britannica's revenue comes from online operations, of which around 15% comes from subscriptions to the consumer version of the website.[4] Subscriptions are available on a yearly, monthly or weekly basis.[5] Special subscription plans are offered to schools, colleges and libraries; such institutional subscribers constitute an important part of Britannica's business. Beginning in early 2007, the Britannica makes articles freely available if they are hyperlinked from an external site. Non-subscribers are served pop-ups and advertising.[6] On 3 June 2008, an initiative to facilitate collaboration between online expert and amateur scholarly contributors for Britannica's online content (in the spirit of a wiki), with editorial oversight from Britannica staff, was announced.[7][8] Approved contributions would be credited,[9] though contributing automatically grants Encyclopćdia Britannica, Inc. perpetual, irrevocable license to those contributions.[10]

GERULA
08-13-2014, 01:58 PM
There are many about your existence on balkan peninsula. There are no contemporary chronicles which mention the existence of vlachs (romanians) in present -day romania before the 13th century. There are no material archeological evidence before the 13th century. Similarly , there are no mention of the existence of dacians after the roman withdrawal... Their hostility with romans remained. Dacian language/vocabulary is not known. There are no proofs for the development of dacian into neo latino language. However you have high ratio of albanian words and balkanite southern slavic words in your old language (before your language reformation . The roforms significantly increased the neo-latino elements in romani-an language, like the adoption of modern french and italian phrases and words.)
You R trying very hard ...but to no avail to fabricate the exact opposite of the reality....Just for your knowledge ..during the Dacian Roman wars there were no translators needed...I ll leave it up to your single neuron to guess why...lol..and yes we have many common words with all the proto languages ...because our ancestors spoke it ...

Stears
08-13-2014, 04:20 PM
You R trying very hard ...but to no avail to fabricate the exact opposite of the reality....Just for your knowledge ..during the Dacian Roman wars there were no translators needed...I ll leave it up to your single neuron to guess why...lol..and yes we have many common words with all the proto languages ...because our ancestors spoke it ... Your vlachs ancestors spoke southern-slavic albanian-latin mixature language. Just think about your old dictionary.

Velaxa
08-14-2014, 10:31 AM
Compare it with the Hungarians (which are real western cathedrals and palaces. FEEL THE DIFFERENCE!



Medieval Hungarian Culture (palaces churches, paintings, sculpture, music and fine-arts) WATCH IT IN FULL HD!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6aZDB4JlBU

Bran castle? Are you fucking retarded? Bran castle is saxon fortress and transformed in castle by romanians. :picard2:

Stears
08-14-2014, 05:22 PM
Bran castle? Are you fucking retarded? Bran castle is saxon fortress and transformed in castle by romanians. :picard2: Ignorant. Saxons were not allowed to build castles, they had right to built city walls and city defensive towers. The Teutonic Order began construction of a wooden fort known as Dietrichstein in the early 13th century. After the fort's destruction in 1242 by Mongols. Louis The Great of Hungary ordered the a stone castle in 1377. Romanians have never built castles in Transylvania. Shepherds are not masons. Masons were member of a guild. You do not know what is the guild word means (It's no wonder because orthodox countries had no guilds) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild

Velaxa
08-14-2014, 05:52 PM
Ignorant. Saxons were not allowed to build castles, they had right to built city walls and city defensive towers. The Teutonic Order began construction of a wooden fort known as Dietrichstein in the early 13th century. After the fort's destruction in 1242 by Mongols. Louis The Great of Hungary ordered the a stone castle in 1377. Romanians have never built castles in Transylvania. Shepherds are not masons. Masons were member of a guild. You do not know what is the guild word means (It's no wonder because orthodox countries had no guilds) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild

What a cunt, the Bran castle was a fortress built by saxons. Queen Maria of Romania renovated it and transformed into a castle.

Velaxa
08-14-2014, 05:53 PM
Ignorant. Saxons were not allowed to build castles, they had right to built city walls and city defensive towers. The Teutonic Order began construction of a wooden fort known as Dietrichstein in the early 13th century. After the fort's destruction in 1242 by Mongols. Louis The Great of Hungary ordered the a stone castle in 1377. Romanians have never built castles in Transylvania. Shepherds are not masons. Masons were member of a guild. You do not know what is the guild word means (It's no wonder because orthodox countries had no guilds) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild

First Kendeffy was a vlach. Candea :thumb001: One of the best noble family from Transylvania.

Stears
08-14-2014, 05:57 PM
What a cunt, the Bran castle was a fortress built by saxons. Queen Maria of Romania renovated it and transformed into a castle. You spoke fantasy. Saxons were not allow to build castles. The wooden fotress was built by Teutonic order, but it was destroyed in 1242 Mongol attack. The stone castle was built by king Louis the great in 1377. You speak stupidities, and use your pure fantasy to lie.

Stears
08-14-2014, 06:01 PM
Kendeffy is a Hungarian family, even their name is Hungarian, it means "Your son" , but the first known mention of this family dated back only to the early modern period, the 16th century.

Velaxa
08-14-2014, 06:01 PM
You spoke fantasy. Saxons were not allow to build castles. The wooden fotress was built by Teutonic order, but it was destroyed in 1242 Mongol attack. The stone castle was built by king Louis the great in 1377. You speak stupidities, and use your pure fantasy to lie.

" The first documented mentioning of Bran Castle is the act issued by Louis I of Hungary on November 19, 1377, giving the Saxons of Kronstadt (Braşov) the privilege to build the stone citadel on their own expense and labor force; the settlement of Bran began to develop nearby."


Y The stone castle was built by king Louis the great in 1377.

Yes, Louis built the castle by his hands :picard2:

Ringelnatter
08-14-2014, 06:02 PM
Transilvania is undoubtely Hungarian, no one can deny that.

Velaxa
08-14-2014, 06:06 PM
Kendeffy is a Hungarian family, even their name is Hungarian, it means "Your son" , but the first known mention of this family dated back only to the early modern period, the 16th century.

You know the Transylvania history so good :)))) . You are pathetic, at 38 years old you dont know the history of your ex land.

http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolcv%C3%A1r

First Kendeffy was Candea, a vlach knyaz. He changed his name in Kendeffy and religion in catholic just because of the oppression against orthodoxism from Hungary Kingdom

Velaxa
08-14-2014, 06:07 PM
Transilvania is undoubtely Hungarian, no one can deny that.

Is hungarian because the romanians was and are the majority? :cool:

Ringelnatter
08-14-2014, 06:07 PM
Is hungarian because the romanians was and are the majority? :cool:

We all know how Romanians became majority there.

Velaxa
08-14-2014, 06:09 PM
We all know how Romanians became majority there.

How? Before 1300 the romanians was the majority after 1600 the romanians becomes again the majority.

Stears
08-14-2014, 06:09 PM
" The first documented mentioning of Bran Castle is the act issued by Louis I of Hungary on November 19, 1377, giving the Saxons of Kronstadt (Braşov) the privilege to build the stone citadel on their own expense and labor force; the settlement of Bran began to develop nearby." Yes, Louis built the castle by his hands :picard2: The charter mention the cause of the building: It was built against Vlach (romanian) burglars to ensure some important Transylvanian trade routes. It was never owned by common people (like saxons), because the Hungarian law (and utmost all medieval laws) prohibited to own a castle of non noble origin people. You are simply ridiculous.

Velaxa
08-14-2014, 06:12 PM
The charter mention the cause of the building: It was built against Vlach (romanian) burglars to ensure some important Transylvanian trade routes. It was never owned by common people (like saxons), because the Hungarian law (and utmost all medieval laws) prohibited to own a castle of non noble origin people. You are simply ridiculous.

The saxons built the castle, I dont care who own the castle. And now the romanians own the Fagaras fortress nowadays, but this is not a romanian fortress. :rolleyes:

Stears
08-14-2014, 06:20 PM
The saxons built the castle, I dont care who own the castle. And now the romanians own the Fagaras fortress nowadays, but this is not a romanian fortress. :rolleyes: Again, they were not masons, they are just lumped heaped up the materials (stone wood). It was not financed and build by them, and it was not built for them.

Stears
08-14-2014, 06:22 PM
so calm down you descendant of swarthy dwarf late nomad immigrants.

Velaxa
08-14-2014, 07:54 PM
Again, they were not masons, they are just lumped heaped up the materials (stone wood). It was not financed and build by them, and it was not built for them.

Was no build by them? Stop being a fucking cunt. :picard2:

Stears
08-16-2014, 05:30 AM
Was no build by them? Stop being a fucking cunt. :picard2: Moron. Read it again and again. Only masons built it.

blogen
08-16-2014, 07:08 AM
The saxons built the castle, I dont care who own the castle. And now the romanians own the Fagaras fortress nowadays, but this is not a romanian fortress. :rolleyes:

Not the Saxons built Fogarasvár, but Apor László, Transylvanian voivod around ~1310. The Hungarian king gave the castle to the Wallachian voivods as fiefdom around ~1370, but he took it back in 1464 from them. This was a small wooden castle at this time. The present stone castle was being built in the first half of the sixteenth century.

http://jupiter.elte.hu/fogaras/fogarasrajzok6.jpg

Velaxa
08-16-2014, 09:06 AM
Not the Saxons built Fogarasvár, but Apor László, Transylvanian voivod around ~1310. The Hungarian king gave the castle to the Wallachian voivods as fiefdom around ~1370, but he took it back in 1464 from them. This was a small wooden castle at this time. The present stone castle was being built in the first half of the sixteenth century.

http://jupiter.elte.hu/fogaras/fogarasrajzok6.jpg

I dont said that the saxons built Fagaras. I said just the Fagaras is not a romanian fortress. :P

Phularion
08-16-2014, 06:54 PM
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Exepct that I didn't edit anything you damn prick, I fount it like it was like that.

Phularion
08-16-2014, 07:04 PM
Your vlachs ancestors spoke southern-slavic albanian-latin mixature language. Just think about your old dictionary.

Guess what you dirty asian niglet.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/IndoEuropeanTree.svg/800px-IndoEuropeanTree.svg.png

I can't even see yours man. Probably a mix of gypsi language + turkic.

Stears
08-17-2014, 06:09 AM
Guess what you dirty asian niglet. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/IndoEuropeanTree.svg/800px-IndoEuropeanTree.svg.png I can't even see yours man. Probably a mix of gypsi language + turkic. Wrong. Gypsy is your ancient ido-european brothers. All linguist scholars say: Gypsy is the closest language to ancient sanskrit. However there are no known contemporary linguists who support your fantasy that turkic and Hungarian languages are related. Why are gypsies so similar to romanians (like pigmentation low stature)