This thread is about North Pontid subrace. Is it mixed of Corded and Pontid ?
Where this type originate from ? Where this type is most common in ?
Where does it exist at present time?
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This thread is about North Pontid subrace. Is it mixed of Corded and Pontid ?
Where this type originate from ? Where this type is most common in ?
Where does it exist at present time?
I just name the transitional spectrum between Eastnordid and Pontid-Mediterranid Northpontid, especially if they have the typical Nordatlantid color combination, namely darker hair and light eyes.
Northpontid phenotypes seem to be most common in the Ukraine and Southern Russia, but can appear around that area and everywhere Eastnordid-Pontid variants exist.
I'm not sure of whether we deal(t) with a stable subtype in this case or not, whether the distinction between Eastnordid and Nordpontid is that clear regionally, but the characteristic phenotype is obvious.
Would you rather consider North Pontid to be Dark Corded ? not such a bad name huh ? :DQuote:
I just name the transitional spectrum between Eastnordid and Pontid-Mediterranid Northpontid, especially if they have the typical Nordatlantid color combination, namely darker hair and light eyes.
What about Poland and Czech Republic ?Quote:
Northpontid phenotypes seem to be most common in the Ukraine and Southern Russia, but can appear around that area and everywhere Eastnordid-Pontid variants exist.
It's obvious that North Pontid could be anything for example if Baltid (proper) have dark hair but with light eye, would you conside this person 'North Pontid', possibly yeah but it's depend how gracile this person is and of course facial features. I've never see anyone (Celebrity and personal) who are really good example of North Pontid but i can see them that they'd look similiar to North Atlantid from the west.Quote:
I'm not sure of whether we deal(t) with a stable subtype in this case or not, whether the distinction between Eastnordid and Nordpontid is that clear regionally, but the characteristic phenotype is obvious.
Eastnordid/Nordid and Pontid is present in both, so phenotypically yes like Atlantid/Nordomediterranid equivalents, but as a more stable form of a certain magnitude it can be primarily considered for parts of Eastern Europe rather than Central Europe.Quote:
What about Poland and Czech Republic ?
Can you send a picture of a good example of North Pontid ? :)
I agree.Quote:
Eastnordid/Nordid and Pontid is present in both, so phenotypically yes like Atlantid/Nordomediterranid equivalents, but as a more stable form of a certain magnitude it can be primarily considered for parts of Eastern Europe rather than Central Europe.
Are North Pontid ancient Slavic type ?
What is really difference North Pontid and North Atlantid ? not just a dark hair and light eye but facial features.
I know that questions aren't directed to me but I'll try to answer.
I don't think so. In my opinion it's erroneous to associate ancient Slavs with one type. But East-Nordid was surely common among them, possibly creating mixtures similiar to North-Pontid. But I might be wrong...Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCorded
In my opinion, main difference lies in origins. North-Atlantids are associated with megalithic culture and concentrate mainly in British Isles. North-Pontids on the other hand inhabit different areas and come from different peoples.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCorded
As for differences in facial features, I guess there are some. Both types are essentially Nordid/Mediterranid intermediate form. But in both types different sub-types are involved. In North-Pontid this is Pontin+East-Nordid, while in North-Atlantids components are other. So facial differences might be minor but noticeable.
I might be wrong here as well, I just say, how I understand it. Let's wait for what Agrippa has to say. :wink
EDIT: Also I'm not sure if North-Atlantids are really Nordid/Mediterranid mix. They might be just more "Nordoid-looking" Meds, who eventually mixed to some extent with other British types.
I think you're right that East Nordid was common among Slavs.Quote:
I don't think so. In my opinion it's erroneous to associate ancient Slavs with one type. But East-Nordid was surely common among them, possibly creating mixtures similiar to North-Pontid. But I might be wrong...
How did East Nordid meet Pontid type ? :rolleyes:
Of course the difference is origins. East Nordid and Pontid have same origin (r1a).Quote:
In my opinion, main difference lies in origins. North-Atlantids are associated with megalithic culture and concentrate mainly in British Isles. North-Pontids on the other hand inhabit different areas and come from different peoples.
Let see what Agrippa have got to say. :)Quote:
I might be wrong here as well, I just say, how I understand it. Let's wait for what Agrippa has to say. :wink
North Atlantid are basically Nordid with dark hair. North Atlantid have more Nordid influence than Atlantid because of their eye colour and Atlantid are like between Nordid and Mediterraneanid whereas North Atlantid are almost Nordid with small Mediterraneanid influence.Quote:
Also I'm not sure if North-Atlantids are really Nordid/Mediterranid mix. They might be just more "Nordoid-looking" Meds, who eventually mixed to some extent with other British types.
There are some North-Pontids even among Estonians although Lenna classified my father(a non-foreign looking person here) as South-Pontid.