Germans warn of disintegration of Bosnia and blame Serbs and Russians

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Originally Posted by rothaer

I'll tell you something that may enduringly enlight:

Actually the West doesn't give a shit for BiH. Also, that they are islamophilic is a wrong interpretation of the motivs. The West is afraid of every development that gives weight to ethnicity, because this can destroy their own erronously and artificially designed societies. They sense that this is very fragile and they are afraid of the consequences in their countries if their ideology gets proved wrong somewhere else. This is the only driver of any "West" action and positioning in the Balkans. Strategically and economically the Balkans is irrelevant to the West.

In turn I'm thankful for every experience and example that may be suitable to wake up my indentity-ignorant compatriot Germans from their political hypnosis. Their current ideology does not just harm Germany but all neighbours as well.

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But ethnicity was important (Albanian) when West had issue with territorial integrity of Serbia.
How that?

All phrasing that we hear from western politicians about "Bosnia is land of all its citizens, no matter ethnicity and religion, and simple majority should rule" is very dangerous.
It is the same speech that Bosnian Muslims use, knowing that benefite them, as most numerous nation in Bosnia.

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Originally Posted by Dušan

But ethnicity was important (Albanian) when West had issue with territorial integrity of Serbia.
How that?

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A good question.

That's, however, unrelated to what I said. As for Germany it was another trigger. The media had covered and mislabeld the whole thing as a "genocide" and that put the German government, at that time social democrats and greens, under pressure and even the otherwise pacifistic greens agreed to war - completely crazy. They were driven by the German mass media and then tried to act as popular as possible. I can guarantee that none of these two parties do have any agenda on the Balkans. But as for other countries in the West I'm not sure and also who directed the German mass media this way is open to me. The British are always conspiring agaist the strongest, but do they have any agenda on the Balkans? Was it a wish of NATO structures to perform a little completely not dangerous war as a training and a keeping together the NATO members?

Germany is traditionally pro Croatia, but in 1999 all things in connection to Croatia were settled. And nobody, not even Croatia, cares much for Croats in BiH.

I admit I'm somewhat cluesless as for what was the driver for that intervention.

I actually think it was the cockiness of NATO at that time, when Russia played no role anymore. It was a new generation of politicians in Germany and most elder politicians that were foussed on the cold war and peace keeping thought: wtf. are you doing, start a war?? I also can not say who was the driver for the international recognition of Kosovo in 2008. If you look here, the USA, England and France made it shortly before Germany:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...tion_of_Kosovo

In the end all "gang members" of the NATO felt obligated to do it for standing together. But you know that it did not go so well with Germany and the NATO "leading" nations before and after this Kosovo war. Germany refused to take part in the second Iraq war (in the first it payed 16 billion dollars to the US as contribution) and after the Kosovo war Germany refused to take part in the NATO war against Libya (even Norway bombed Libya under the prime minister Stoltenberg, which latter likely just wanted to intruduce himself as a suitable NATO general secretary which he then also became).

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Originally Posted by Dušan

All phrasing that we hear from western politicians about "Bosnia is land of all its citizens, no matter ethnicity and religion, and simple majority should rule" is very dangerous.
It is the same speech that Bosnian Muslims use, knowing that benefite them, as most numerous nation in Bosnia.

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I agree.

Naah....It's like talking to a wall.

People believe what they want, fuck the truth.

Deleted my essay. Cast pearls before swine...is stupid