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Originally Posted by Stears

Hungary is not Eastern European country.

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Geographically speaking, Hungary IS Eastern European.
Its in the same longitude as Balkans, and more Eastern than Italy
http://www.mapsofworld.com/europe/co...ern-europe.jpg
http://www.schoechi.de/maps/eea.gif
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebit...7003_small.gif
http://www.severntrentinternational....ern-europe.gif

UN marks Hungary as Eastern as well :lol:

Also, politically Hungary falls under the Eastern Spectrum:
-Communism / Eastern Bloc
-Warsaw Pact
-Iron Curtain

Hehehehheheheheh :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Queen B

Geographically speaking, Hungary IS Eastern European.
Its in the same longitude as Balkans, and more Eastern than Italy
http://www.mapsofworld.com/europe/co...ern-europe.jpg
http://www.schoechi.de/maps/eea.gif
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebit...7003_small.gif
http://www.severntrentinternational....ern-europe.gif

UN marks Hungary as Eastern as well :lol:

Also, politically Hungary falls under the Eastern Spectrum:
-Communism / Eastern Bloc
-Warsaw Pact
-Iron Curtain

Hehehehheheheheh :laugh:

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Hungary !politically! became "Eastern European" because of the Iron Curtain. It did not belong to Eastern Europe before 1949 (the date of the Communist takeover in Hungary). The location for the geographical centre of Europe is dubious but one of the candidates is situated in Hungary.

"It is claimed that a 1992 survey found that the geometric centre of Europe is in the village of Tállya, Hungary 48.23610°N 21.22574°E. In 2000, a sculpture was erected in the village, with a table on it declaring the place the "Geometric Centre of Europe""

Central Europe in 1902:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...urope_1902.PNG

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Originally Posted by Fakirbakir

Hungary !politically! became "Eastern European" because of the Iron Curtain. It did not belong to Eastern Europe before 1949 (the date of the Communist takeover in Hungary). The location for the geographical centre of Europe is dubious but one of the candidates is situated in Hungary. "It is claimed that a 1992 survey found that the geometric centre of Europe is in the village of Tállya, Hungary 48.23610°N 21.22574°E. In 2000, a sculpture was erected in the village, with a table on it declaring the place the "Geometric Centre of Europe"" Central Europe in 1902: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...urope_1902.PNG

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The map is amateur and wrong. Romania is an Orthodox country,(Orthodox = Eastern-European) which is a transition of asian and European civilization. See romania article of old 1911 E.Britannica, and pre-ww1 edition of German national encyclopedia, the BROCKHAUS, and french Larousse. All of them describe romania as eastern European country.

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Originally Posted by Stears

The map is amateur and wrong. Romania is an Orthodox country,(Orthodox = Eastern-European) which is a transition of asian and European civilization. See romania article of old 1911 E.Britannica, and pre-ww1 edition of German national encyclopedia, the BROCKHAUS, and french Larousse. All of them describe romania as eastern European country.

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Source: Geographisches Handbuch zu Andrees Handatlas, vierte Auflage, Bielefeld und Leipzig, Velhagen und Klasing, 1902.

Hungary is not Eastern European country. Hungary (similar to Poland Czech Rep. Germany Switzerland Poland etc..) is a Central European country, and it is part of western (catholic-protestant) western culture.

See the old Encyclopedia Britannica from 1911:
HUNGARY (Hungarian Magyarorszag), a country in the south-eastern pertion of Central Europe, http://archive.org/stream/encyclopae...search/hungary

See Modern Britannica:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...276730/Hungary
Hungary, Hungarian Magyarország, landlocked country of central Europe. The capital is Budapest.

German BrockHaus Encyclopedia
http://www.brockhaus.de/.files/pdf/e...ie/BE_Burg.pdf

Columbia Encyclopedia
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Hungary.aspx

French Larousse Encyclopedia
http://www.larousse.fr/encyclopedie/pays/Hongrie/111520

Hungary is Central European: CIA World Factbook
https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/hu.html

Encarta Encyclopedia
http://web.archive.org/web/200910281...1/Hungary.html

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Originally Posted by Fakirbakir

Source: Geographisches Handbuch zu Andrees Handatlas, vierte Auflage, Bielefeld und Leipzig, Velhagen und Klasing, 1902.

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Unlike Britannica Brockhaus or Larousse encyclopedias, that handatlas is just a private self-appointed "encyclopedia". However national encyclopedias and dictionaries are used in legal trials at tribunals for the case of semantic problems.

Culturally, both islam and the semi-asian orthodox countries were traditionally west-hater civilizations. Hungary is a Central European country, and part of the Catholic-Protestant western civilization. Hungary is not Eastern European (Orthodox = semi-asian culture) country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cl...ations_map.png


What is Western Civilization?
The earliest mention of Western civilization “Occidental civilis”
After the Great Schism (The East-West Schism /formally in 1054/, between Western Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Christianity.) Hungary determined itself as the easternmost bastion of Western civilisation (This statement was affirmed later by Pope Pius II who wrote that to Emperor Friedrich III, “Hungary is the shield of Christianity and the protector of Western civilization”)
It is not a secret in history, that countries civilizations are/were not in the same level of development.
It is well-known that Western and Central Europe, ( the so-called Western civilization) was always more developed than Orthodox Slavic or Eastern European civilization.
The cultural the societal-system and the economical civilizational (and technological) differences between Orthodox countries and Western Christian (Catholic-Protestant) countries were similar great, as the differences between Northern America (USA Canada) and Southern- (Latino) America.

MEMENTO:
Western things which were not existed in orthodox world:

1.Medieval appearance of parliaments (a legislative body(!), DO NOT CONFUSE with the “councils of monarchs” which existed since the beginning of human history),
2. Knights, the knight-culture and the technological effects of crusades from the Holy Land,
3.The self-government status of big royal/imperial cities, (local government systems of cities), which is the direct ancestor of modern self/local governmental systems.
4. The defence systems & fortifications: The spread of stone castle defense -systems, the town-walls of western cities from the 11^th century. (In the orthodox world, only the capital cities had such a walls , The countries of the Balkan region and the territory of Russian states fell under Ottoman/Mongolian rule very rapidly - with a single decesive open-field battle - due to the lack of the networks of stone/brick castles and fortresses in these countries. The only exception was the greek inhabited Byzantine territories which were well fortified.)
5. The medieval appearance of banking systems and social effects and status of urban bourgeoisie, the absolute dominance of money-economy (when the vast majority of trade based on money and the taxes customs duties were collected in money) from the 12th -13^th century, instead of the former primitive bartel-based commerce (barter dominated the economies orthodox world until the 17-18^th centuries.)
6.The medieval appearance of universities and the medieval appearance of secular intellectuals,
7.Philosophy: Scholasticism and humanist philosophy,
8.The medieval usage of Latin alphabet and medieval spread of movable type printing,
9.The medieval western theater: Mystery or cycle plays, morality and passion plays,
10.The ARTS: western architecture, sculpture paintings and fine-arts: the Romanesque style, the Gothic style and the Renaissance style.
The orthodox church buildings and „palaces(?)” were very little, they had primitive structure and poor decorations, their style were influenced by non-European arabic and persian influenced ornamentics.




The renaissance & humanism , the reformation and the enlightenment did not influenced/affected the Orthodox (Eastern European) countries.
Before 1870, the industrialization that had developed in Western and Central Europe and the United States did not extend in any significant way to the rest of the world. In Eastern Europe, industrialization lagged far behind, and started only in the 20th century.

Yes, let's fight over a silly label so we can feel better about ourselves.