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    Default Would banning firearms reduce murder and suicide ? (Harvard study)

    WOULD BANNING FIREARMS REDUCE
    MURDER AND SUICIDE?

    A REVIEW OF INTERNATIONAL AND
    SOME DOMESTIC EVIDENCE
    DON B. KATES* AND GARY MAUSER**



    INTRODUCTION .................................................. ..........650
    I. VIOLENCE: THE DECISIVENESS OF
    SOCIAL FACTORS........................................... ........660
    II. ASKING THE WRONG QUESTION..........................662
    III. DO ORDINARY PEOPLE MURDER?........................665
    IV. MORE GUNS, LESS CRIME?....................................670
    V. GEOGRAPHIC, HISTORICAL AND DEMOGRAPHIC
    PATTERNS.......................................... .....................673
    A. Demographic Patterns ..................................676
    B. Macro‐historical Evidence: From the
    Middle Ages to the 20th Century .................678
    C. Later and More Specific Macro‐Historical
    Evidence.......................................... ................684
    D. Geographic Patterns within Nations ..........685




    Note by Asega:
    Thank you, Ulf.

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    Yeah. You can kill and commit suicide with a knife.
    It's never too early to start beefing up your obituary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dronckaert View Post
    Yeah. You can kill and commit suicide with a knife.
    Or with a rope- I know plenty of people that can kill using nothing more then their bare hands.



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    It's easier to kill with a firearm than with a knife or rope. A baby that for mistake found daddy's pistol could kill an adult man while it could be almost impossible if he found mommy's kitchen knife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nohypocrisy View Post
    It's easier to kill with a firearm than with a knife or rope. A baby that for mistake found daddy's pistol could kill an adult man while it could be almost impossible if he found mommy's kitchen knife.
    Yes. So tell me. What idiot would leave a gun on a place where a kid could find it ?
    Those things belong in locked cabinets to which only mummy and daddy have the keys.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    Yes. So tell me. What idiot would leave a gun on a place where a kid could find it ?
    A redneck probably. And it has happened before so it seems there is a lot of idiots in this world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nohypocrisy View Post
    A redneck probably. And it has happened before so it seems there is a lot of idiots in this world.
    Yes so blame the idiots that can't handle a gun. Not the majority of gun owners.



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    You could make an argument for homicide with guns if not for Norway, but suicide cannot have an argument made. Suicide has no struggle and if someone were to commit suicide, they will find some way to do it, whether it's a gun, a knife, or some rope. I see no basis to conclude that you can even factor suicide into the argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    Yes so blame the idiots that can't handle a gun. Not the majority of gun owners.

    Nancy Reagan kept her gun by her bed I think. A lot of idiots in northen Sweden lean thier elk rifles behind the door and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamt View Post
    Nancy Reagan kept her gun by her bed I think. A lot of idiots in northen Sweden lean thier elk rifles behind the door and so on.
    Not a problem if you don't have young children. In fact, better to have access quickly in case of an intruder, so you aren't running around 'unlock gun cabinet, unlock ammo cabinet, take trigger lock off, load gun'..."hey you burglar hold still right there while I get this damn thing ready"

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