Why do many of the same people who black-wash Southern Europeans attempt to whitewash non-Europeans?

[daedal1]

It should be a walking contradiction.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Like I said if you won't divulge your ethnic background and be honest no one will take you seriously, but the answer is pretty simple.

Entire mediterranean was white 3k years ago or so, and only a few areas of africa and south asia were truly back. In bronze age collapse is when the first darkening of mediterranean started to take place. Still though there was not many people who were black by today's standards. During arab expansion and bantu expansion arabs darked up quite a bit and pull on both SSA and anatomincally south indian darkness and spread it around med. That's what all historic sources say, the rest is either afrocentrism or people who are trying to pass off like they are the originators of whatever country they live in today.

There's a darkness map of skin colors of the whole world, and it shows north africa is same as spain, and greece and arab lands are darker. Everybody is trying to get into europe not north africa in modern times so of course it's darkening up quickly.

Only real question is why you are so butthurt about it all. Greeks themselves have tried to darkwash ancient greece and even have claimed alexander to be greek and all kinds of other nonsense. Have to wonder why people make this kind of crap up.

[daedal1]

Like I said if you won't divulge your ethnic background and be honest no one will take you seriously, but the answer is pretty simple.

Entire mediterranean was white 3k years ago or so, and only a few areas of africa and south asia were truly back. In bronze age collapse is when the first darkening of mediterranean started to take place. Still though there was not many people who were black by today's standards. During arab expansion and bantu expansion arabs darked up quite a bit and pull on both SSA and anatomincally south indian darkness and spread it around med. That's what all historic sources say, the rest is either afrocentrism or people who are trying to pass off like they are the originators of whatever country they live in today.

There's a darkness map of skin colors of the whole world, and it shows north africa is same as spain, and greece and arab lands are darker. Everybody is trying to get into europe not north africa in modern times so of course it's darkening up quickly.

Only real question is why you are so butthurt about it all. Greeks themselves have tried to darkwash ancient greece and even have claimed alexander to be greek and all kinds of other nonsense. Have to wonder why people make this kind of crap up.

Because you have no experience with actual north africans in reality other than what you see of cherry-picked north africans on anthro-forums. Plenty of european members on here have stressed just how exotic berbers/north africans are even in Southern Europe.

You're relying on antiquated data. And you can see that pigmentation studies have confirmed Portuguese to be lighter than Italians:

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:...l.pone.0048294

[Prince Carlo]

Oh god, the same study also shows the Portuguese men to be much lighter than the Polish women regarding the skintone. Anyone who has seen both Portuguese and Poles, can only laugh at that.

[daedal1]

Oh god, the same study also shows the Portuguese men to be much lighter than the Polish women regarding the skintone. Anyone who has seen both Portuguese and Poles, can only laugh at that.

Unexposed Skin Tone, not hair or eye coloring:

Jablonski also claims it:

http://faculty.washington.edu/charle...ski%202000.pdf

Ireland (Carnew) (NH) 64·50
Spain (Leon) (NH) 64·66

[Prince Carlo]

Unexposed Skin Tone, not hair or eye coloring:

Jablonski also claims it:

http://faculty.washington.edu/charle...ski%202000.pdf

Ireland (Carnew) (NH) 64·50
Spain (Leon) (NH) 64·66

Yeah and in the same study Japan is darker than Vietnam LOL.

[daedal1]

Yeah and in the same study Japan is darker than Vietnam LOL.

Either way, Candille shows Portuguese to be in a similar range of skin tone pigmentation with Poles, with Irish being the lightest, it's really italians who are the outliers, by far. So, even if polish are lighter in skin tone than portuguese give or take, given the huge margin, portuguese would still end up being lighter than italians. It's mainly eye and hair coloring that separates Poles from Portuguese in pigmentation, with Poles being much lighter on that front.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

The portuguese are really not so dark as you'd expect. I imagine it's because the suebes from germany settled there pretty heavily before muslims came and didn't get totally wiped out.

South italy does seem extremely dark, too.

When it comes to north africa it's not that the average north african is so light but some remnant in more isolated places are.

[Sikeliot]

If anything, Southern Europe has gotten lighter, not darker -- Normans, Visigoths, Slavs, etc. would have made the population lighter rather than darker.

[Scandalf]

The portuguese are really not so dark as you'd expect. I imagine it's because the suebes from germany settled there pretty heavily before muslims came and didn't get totally wiped out.

South italy does seem extremely dark, too.

When it comes to north africa it's not that the average north african is so light but some remnant in more isolated places are.

I've been to Portugal for 2 months (Amarante) and the first thing that came to my mind was: I'm in (a cleaner) South Italy.
To claim that their pigmentation is the same as the Poles is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard...
I agree however that some South Italians are darker (they look like people from Tunisi or Lybia but they're not as abundant as foreigners would expect).