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Thread: Authentic Greek music DOES NOT sound Middle Eastern nor Turkish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    And it is funny seeing other Balkan users say this lie about Greek music/culture considering that if you turned it around on them and showed them modern "Serbian" and "Bulgarian" music that sounds just like it, they'd deny that it is authentic and go on about Ottomans and Gypsies.

    Same is true for Greece!
    My friend, that music style might be Ottoman but its' not Turkish but Arabic really. The Turks' real music (from Central Asia) is not like that either...



    Yeah, that's basically identical with Pontic Music...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    My friend, that music style might be Ottoman but its' not Turkish but Arabic really. The Turks' real music (from Central Asia) is not like that either...
    I mean music like this Serbian music (I am too lazy to find a Greek example).. go to 3:50 in the video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDV1YnOtv1g

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Authentic Greek music, i.e. not the Gypsy pop music that is common in the Balkans nowadays that also has Ottoman influences, does not sound anything like Middle Eastern music. It actually sounds remarkably similar to Sicilian music and to southern Italian music.
    I've considered this kind of music as authentic Greek music:




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    Is it just me or is Greco-Italian music similar to Alpine music? Not uncannily similar but still



    Hardly authentic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I mean music like this Serbian music (I am too lazy to find a Greek example).. go to 3:50 in the video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDV1YnOtv1g
    This is the DEFINITION of Arabian music my friend:



    Just for the record, modern Greek music has stolen from both Arabian and Indian music for many decades now (yes, they were importing and listening and then copying songs straight from India and Arabia without to bother about royalties and the like) but this is still one of the many styles of modern "Greek" music. Greece has many different music styles, differing substantially from region to region, with the Epirotans having Celtic-like music and the Aegeans having their own distinct style, and of course we have exchanges of music for millenia (a lot of that Arabic style music was produced independently from Greek composers in Turkey during the Ottoman times, hence the association with Turkey) and it is a never ending cycle...

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    The Ottoman Empire brought cultural exchanges from far and wide. I don't see why it would be considered authentic to any Balkan country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dombra View Post
    Is it just me or is Greco-Italian music similar to Alpine music? Not uncannily similar but still



    Hardly authentic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    I've considered this kind of music as authentic Greek music:



    This is Medieval Greek Ecclesiastical Music, with Ancient Greek origins and it gave rise to both Muslim Arabic and Western European Ecclesiastic Music. It is still considered as one of the most soothing forms of music ever and it has been recommended to lunatic asylums for calming the patients... This is why it was so useful in the violent Middle Ages...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_music

    Byzantine music (Modern Greek: Βυζαντινή Μουσική) is the music of the Byzantine Empire composed to Greek texts as ceremonial, festival, or church music.[1] Greek and foreign historians agree that the ecclesiastical tones and in general the whole system of Byzantine music is closely related to the ancient Greek system.[2] It remains the oldest genre of extant music, of which the manner of performance and (with increasing accuracy from the 5th century onwards) the names of the composers, and sometimes the particulars of each musical work's circumstances, are known.
    Still, it is just one of the many Greek styles of Music. This is traditional Greek music too:



    No, we didn't import it from Ireland, probably the other way around some millenia ago...

    Meanwhile, some pesky modern Greeks have reconstructed Ancient rhymes:



    This was the first Pythian hymn of Pindar.
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    Petros Houhoulis
    My friend, that music style might be Ottoman but its' not Turkish but Arabic really. The Turks' real music (from Central Asia) is not like that either...

    Turkish music sounds pretty much like this -Aegean folk music sample

    You are right ..our folk music is still protecting our melody style but unfortunately cheap -fabricated middleastern music with Turkish lyrics has became a lumpen fashion after 1980's and poisoned peoples music tastes ..similar to Turbo folk, it is syntethic ,fake and tasteless..


    or these...depends on region..



    Central Anatolian folk music sample



    East Anatolian folk music sample :starts from 1.10 after a long explanation part

    Balkan 17 yy Bard Folk poet Kazak Abdal sample.

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    This isn't a zero sum comparison. The Cappaocians, Greek-speakers of the interior of Asia Minor have traditionally played music like this:



    and the Pontians like this:



    and it's natural after 2000 years in Levant, that natural Greek music can sound like this:



    Our Outsider music is influenced by others, but remains as Greek as anything.

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