What are Northern Italians exactly?

[Scholarios]

Florence isn't norther Italy.

Maybe people would have to stop with this mantra everywhere.

Actually, I guess I understand Florence isn't technically Northern Italy. On the other hand Florence is not Il Fame Sud
--- and maybe I am wrong, but I don't expect people from as far North as Florence to look like a descendant of Phoenician colonist. Actually, I know demographics of Italy changed a lot in past 70 years- but my point is for all the people posting pictures of Med. looking Northeners, without history of their family, it's kind of useless.

[Peyrol]

Due to Post-World War II Migrations, I guess that 30% at least (but even more) of Italians living in North Italy are of Southern origins.

30% of southerners in the north?

You are too optimistic

[Peyrol]

Actually, I guess I understand Florence isn't technically Northern Italy. On the other hand Florence is not Il Fame Sud
--- and maybe I am wrong, but I don't expect people from as far North as Florence to look like a descendant of Phoenician colonist. Actually, I know demographics of Italy changed a lot in past 70 years- but my point is for all the people posting pictures of Med. looking Northeners, without history of their family, it's kind of useless.

I'm repeating this from years but people here have short memory about it.

[Blazkowicz]

More like this::

Well he is a half Italian half Ethiopian friend of mine. A famous businessman who works for a big American company. He told me that there are many half East African mutts in Tuscany and the near regions who often hide their true ancestries- Go figure!

[Ulla]

Florence isn't norther Italy.

Maybe people would have to stop with this mantra everywhere.

Florence is 35 kilometers far from "Northern Italy", the border with Emilia-Romagna.

Romagna, except the language, is historically more southener than Tuscany.

[Ulla]

30% of southerners in the north?

You are too optimistic

I know this map, it includes also the domestic migrations, from a province of the same region to another. It's based on surnames.

[Hithaeglir]

Just richer than S.Italians and most of the italian nobility came from that part of the country?

[The King, I am]

No, the main difference between Northern and Southern Italians is the Ancient Greek colonization. Completely absent in the North, above Rome.

So the Greeks made the Italians of the South so dark..

[Sikeliot]

So the Greeks made the Italians of the South so dark..

That's the lack of the North European component, which is higher in Greeks than in southern Italians actually, suggesting that ours was even lower prior to the Greek colonization.

[cally]

That's the lack of the North European component, which is higher in Greeks than in southern Italians actually, suggesting that ours was even lower prior to the Greek colonization.

Or Greek components have gotten higher!

Are there even any pure Mediterraneans in Greece today? I don't get that impression from TA..