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    Default How much Slavic ancestry do Italians have?

    How much Slavic ancestry do Italians have and where is it concentrated the most?

    In the 6th century, during the closing stages of the mass-migrations the Goth historian Jordanes and eyewitness wrote: "The Slavs are of one blood and live in three groups. The Venedic (West Slavs), Antic (East Slavs), and Sklavinian (South Slavs)" (2000, Pogonowski, p.19)."These are three great tribes of the same people."


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    "Over a long period of time, Ptolumy's Venedi Slavs had filtered through the passes of the eastern alps. They made their way as if with the instinct of migratory birds down towards the Po valley and finally settled in an extremely fertile and more favourable climate, which still bears the name derived from theirs, the Veneto region of Italy.

    The early Slavs who came south, had the skills needed to make these bronze plaques (pictured to the left) in the 6th and 5th centuries BC. Over the centuries however they merged with the native population and slowly lost their own identity, taking on the cultural characteristics of neighbouring peoples, such as the alphabet which they probably learned from the Estruscans. Because of this process of evolution, the Venedi grew increasingly differentiated from their north-eastern cousins, who also in their turn refined their skills in working materials, casting objects in metal for instance (1984, Quilici)."

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    Only people with any Slavic ancestry in Italy come from the far Northeast.

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    100%, because the whole world is descended from Slavs, Serbs specificaly... is that what you wanted to hear Rashka/Epirot/Novi Pazar ?

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    In the late 700s and early 800s, the Slavs fought off invasions by Charlemagne, whose empire bordered theirs to the west. Charlemagne captured so many Slavs and brought them back to France as slaves that their name has become the French (and English) word for slave (the Latin word was servus, which has become our word servant).


    During the long period of war between the Germans and Slavs, which lasted until the tenth century, the Slavonic territories in the north and southeast furnished the Germans large numbers of slaves. The Venetian and other Italian cities on the coast took numerous Slavonic captives from the opposite side of the Adriatic whom they resold to other places.

    The result is that the name Slav has given the word slave to the peoples of Western Europe.

    The major European languages, including English, used variations of the word "slave", in references to Slavic laborers of Byzantium.

    in the Middle Ages, the Slavs have been subjected to massive slave trade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxman View Post
    Only people with any Slavic ancestry in Italy come from the far Northeast.
    Italinised Slovene.

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    Hard to measure but I don't think it could be much nowadays - even in North-Eastern Italy, excluding recent Slovenian origin.
    But on the other hand I remember being surprised when some Italians here told me that some group of people from Poland posted by me could pass among theirs while they're much different than them to my eye (they look very foreign), yet they (Poles) surely could look less exotic than some southernmost Italians.
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    So Venetians have Slavic ancestry?

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    North East. I've been told I can pass there but I sure as hell can't in Rome so that's what I'm assuming.

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    Almost zero. Slovenes themselves have little Slavic ancestry...

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    Not more than a 2-3 % in a scale of a country, I suppose. And no, I don't count all of the R1a
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