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    Default Where in Germany is there the most Mediterranean influence?

    I mean genetically, not culturally. In what cities/regions of Germany do you find Mediterranean phenotypes? Where is there a history of movement of people from the Mediterranean into Germany?

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    Well, from phenotypes I would say generally in the urban regions of the South-West, especially in

    • the larger cities around the Lake Constance like Konstanz
    • the cities of Baden-Würtemberg, for instance Karlsruhe (French influence)
    • the Palatinate and the Saarland, especially Saarbrücken
    • the most western regions of the Rhineland

    Generally, in big cities all over Germany, mediterranean influence exist (even in the East) while in the rural regions such influences are completely absent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JQP4545 View Post
    I mean genetically, not culturally. In what cities/regions of Germany do you find Mediterranean phenotypes? Where is there a history of movement of people from the Mediterranean into Germany?
    There is no major outsider influence in Central Europe during History. The main migrations where from Northern (germanization) Europe.

    You don't find mediterranean types in Germany altogether anyway.


    But southern Germany and Austria are slightly different from other Germans genetically. They have slighly higher neolithic Mediterranean ancestry and bronze age West Asian influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pegasus View Post
    Well, from phenotypes I would say generally in the urban regions of the South-West, especially in

    • the larger cities around the Lake Constance like Konstanz
    • the cities of Baden-Würtemberg, for instance Karlsruhe (French influence)
    • the Palatinate and the Saarland, especially Saarbrücken
    • the most western regions of the Rhineland

    Generally, in big cities all over Germany, mediterranean influence exist (even in the East) while in the rural regions such influences are completely absent.
    So people from the Rhineland are mostly descended from Romans and people from Karlsruhe are mostly French?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    In Baden Wüttemberg, Bavaria and Austria
    austria isnt in germany.

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    The Southwest has some overlap with eastern France:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ficuscarica View Post
    The Southwest has some overlap with eastern France:
    Map doesnt orrelates with phenotype, there are much more mediterranean phenotypes in Ireland or even the UK than in germany for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pegasus View Post
    Well, from phenotypes I would say generally in the urban regions of the South-West, especially in

    • the larger cities around the Lake Constance like Konstanz
    • the cities of Baden-Würtemberg, for instance Karlsruhe (French influence)
    • the Palatinate and the Saarland, especially Saarbrücken
    • the most western regions of the Rhineland

    Generally, in big cities all over Germany, mediterranean influence exist (even in the East) while in the rural regions such influences are completely absent.
    Interesting, my mothers family is actually from Saarland, maybe this is why a lot of people think she looks Mediterranean. I've heard Saarland was actually heavily French influenced and French is known as a second language there.

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    Southwest mosty, but they aren't so common.

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