Noteworthy Europeans with YDNA Haplogroup E1b1b

[AndreasMeyer]

If modern day Irish have over 80% R1b P312 that means without almost any doubt Irish 2,000 years ago also had 80% R1b P312. I think you doubt to much.

But that does not mean that with certainty a specific Irish person 1000 years ago had R1b P312. It's just an educated guess.

[Longbowman]

But that does not mean that with certainty a specific Irish person 1000 years ago had R1b P312. It's just an educated guess.

No one's pretending Paddy X. or Alex the Great were definitely R1b and E1b1b respectively, we'd just be mildly surprised if they weren't.

[Fire Haired]

But that does not mean that with certainty a specific Irish person 1000 years ago had R1b P312. It's just an educated guess.

Of course about 20% of the population does not have R1b P312 but there is a much higher possibility a random Irish person 1,000 years ago did have R1b P312. Doubt should not stop progress.

[Hanibalas Lekteris]

Caucasoid is probably more accurate. Still both those haplogroups have European subclades.

As far as E-M34 goes, I'm pretty sure all non-Jewish clusters contain both European & Middle Eastern individuals (going by experience).
E-V22 seems even more North African actually.

But both could indeed have spread in Europe during the Neolithic, I wouldn't be surprised to find such these clades in European samples dating back to the Neolithic.

However, there isn't much warranting a European genesis for Jewish E-M34 and E-V22.

[Longbowman]

As far as E-M34 goes, I'm pretty sure all non-Jewish clusters contain both European & Middle Eastern individuals (going by experience).
E-V22 seems even more North African actually.

But both could indeed have spread in Europe during the Neolithic, I wouldn't be surprised to find such these clades in European samples dating back to the Neolithic.

However, there isn't much warranting a European genesis for Jewish E-M34 and E-V22.

E1b1b1c1a is pretty small, but according to this project there appears to be a large European cluster, a large Levantine one, and three small Jewish ones.

I suspect Jewish E1b1b1c1a or at least most Jewish E1b1b1c1a is Levantine but we may perhaps never know. However, all three Jewish clades seem to be comprised entirely of European Jewish - a mixture of Ashkenazis, Sephardics, and Italkim - which suggests at the least a post-Babylonian exile origin.

E1b1b1c1a is a small clade though and I doubt anyone will do any serious genetic studies on it in the near future.

[Yuffayur]

How many people live in north Africa? Its a lifeless desert, you and ten guys named Mohammed can't do much. There are many of us in the USA, Germany, France, UK, Ireland, many powerful nations. If you want a war against people with mainly Indo European descended Y DNA you have to also mess with Russia. At all times even when you go to get your mourning tea are surrounded by R1b L11. Your teachers, friends, relatives, random people you see on the street, girlfriend's father, etc. we are the majority in Britain.

United E1b1b army of north Africa.

Destroyed the Visigothic R1b & I in Iberia lool.

[poiuytrewq0987]

The various strands of Hap. E1b1b as found in Europe constitute the third most common group of YDNA clades in Europe, after the R1 clades (R1a and R1b of course) and the original I clades. It seems to predate R in Europe, R being associated with the Indo-European invasions of c. ~3,000BC and E1b1b being associated with the spread of agriculture during the Neolithic from Anatolia at the latest (c. ~5,500BC). Like I and R, E is found all over Europe - at consistent, but low (normaly <10%) frequencies, with the exceptions of the Balkans where it in places like southern Greece, Macedonia and Albania it approaches 50%, and isolated areas like Galicia where it hits double digits. Anyhow, here's a list of 10 people with the illustrious E1b1b lineage:

A lot of these results are scratching the surface since they only go as far as M-35 or so. That's still a very broad category, need more specific subclades that could tell us the terminal Y-DNA.

[cosmoo]

I seriously doubt Hitler is E1b based on testing of his alleged cousin.
It's like tests of well-known white supremacists who almost always (falsely) turn out to have Negro aDNA component when tested.

[Profileid]

All males
Is it rare for white women to be e1b?

[Dick]

I seriously doubt Hitler is E1b based on testing of his alleged cousin.
It's like tests of well-known white supremacists who almost always (falsely) turn out to have Negro aDNA component when tested.

HITLER WAS A BASTARD CHILD NOBODY KNOWS HIS REAL FATHER