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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    Why are you so worried boss?
    If Novella was Gaelic and Catholic you wouldn't like her?
    I'm glad she's Protestant and of Anglo-Saxon origins. I want my line to remain Germanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    Don't use "Scotch-Irish", this is an American thing and the Northern Irish don't like it. Use "Ulster Scots".
    I know, I'm specifically using it for the North American emigres.
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    Following Irish defeat at the Battle of Kinsale, though, the region's Gaelic, Roman Catholic aristocracy fled to continental Europe in 1607 and the region became subject to major programmes of colonialism by Protestant English (mainly Anglican) and Scottish (mainly Presbyterian) settlers. Between 1610 and 1717 perhaps as many as 100,000 Lowlanders came across from Scotland, and by the latter date there were some five Scots to every three Irishmen and one Englishman in Ulster. A rebellion in 1641 by Irish aristocrats against English rule resulted in a massacre of settlers in Ulster in the context of a war breaking out between England, Scotland and Ireland fuelled by religious intolerance in government. Victories by English forces in that war and further Protestant victories in the Williamite War in Ireland toward the close of the 17th century solidified Anglican rule in Ireland. In Northern Ireland, the victories of the Siege of Derry (1689) and the Battle of the Boyne (1690) in this latter war are still celebrated by the Unionist community (both Anglican and Presbyterian).

    Following the victory of 1691, and contrary to the terms of the Treaty of Limerick, a series of penal laws was passed by the Anglican ruling class in Ireland. Their intention was to materially disadvantage the Catholic community and, to a lesser extent, the Presbyterian community. In the context of open institutional discrimination, the 18th century saw secret, militant societies develop in communities in the region and act on sectarian tensions in violent attacks. These events escalated at the end of the century following an event known as the Battle of the Diamond, which saw the supremacy of the Anglican and Presbyterian Peep o'Day Boys over the Catholic Defenders and leading to the formation of the (Anglican) Orange Order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I'm glad she's Protestant and of Anglo-Saxon origins. I want my line to remain Germanic.
    You gave up on atheism?

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    The descendants of the Irish who remained in Ulster are today's Catholics there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    You gave up on atheism?
    Culturally Protestant.
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    We're both atheists. The only thing we will use the church for would be to get married.
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    North Irish Protestants are mainly the descendants of Lowland Scots and English who came during the Plantations of Ulster. I have many North Irish ancestors on my mother's side. Their ancestry, religion and political views are what separate them from the native Irish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Culturally Protestant.
    In spite of denominational conflict, I congratulate you for having an ethnocultural identity. It's very positive to prevent the descent into total identitylessness and forced homogeneity.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxman View Post
    North Irish Protestants are mainly the descendants of Lowland Scots and English who came during the Plantations of Ulster. I have many North Irish ancestors on my mother's side. Their ancestry, religion and political views are what separate them from the native Irish.
    What about the Protestant Ascendancy? Are they "fake" Irish? All of those great poets, writers, soldiers and statesman? They're all limeys?

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