Loyalists....ENJOY!

[Weedman]

Guess what? It's really a "crimson" .

Roll Tide!!!!!


lol

[Celxon]

Roll Tide!!!!!


lol

That was the actual word that they used in the official document too. How prescient that was!

[Weedman]

They didn't come with Strongbow? If not, forget what I said. I referred to Normans such as the Barrys and the Butlers, as well as the Fitzgeralds. The latter were Cambro-Normans, not really Anglo-Normans.

regardless of where the Norman families in Ireland came from, I think they were eventually called Hiberno-Norman..................The Anglo-Irish were later settlers, mainly around The Pale area.

[Celxon]

regardless of where the Norman families in Ireland came from, I think they were eventually called Hiberno-Norman..................The Anglo-Irish were later settlers, mainly around The Pale area.

That's true. They were called by different names. It's a bit weird that the Norman Irish were called Old English decades after they intermingled and mated with the Gaelic Irish. The Anglo-Irish were closer to the English.