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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Well if u see that, you clearly read it wrong. Indeed we don't have a Siberian gg parent to start with.
    I'm using your own glasses.

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    I think the problems in general is they don't always place Africa and the mesolithic (eventually east asia too), it makes it so confusing for people. When i read some i would believe Scandinavians are just "Western Bulgarians", it's ridiculous how some interpret pca, when there s no possible interpretation.
    A sample of isolated Berbers with lower than SSA average admix can hardly represent the genetic complexity of Africa and North Africa in particular. Do not wanna sound picky but you've been the first to interprete these PCAs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiCa View Post
    Funny thing that such hatefull towards italians sardinians exist only on internet, as in real life for example Sardinians have flocked my region with immigration in the 60s and 70s like other south italians.. if it was for me i would send all of those hatefull sardinian back in their land. first the work is for me, the work of my ancesors is for me and not for the others First.

    how many tuscans have flocked sardinian with economic imigration in the 60sand 70s? the answer is 0. we stay in our land. because our land till the 2000s had oportunities, created by my ancestors.
    the reason of Sardinian immigration in Tuscany was that your people were unable to run the economy in the countryside which was totally abandoned, Sardinians filled the empty places rebuilding the countryside economy from scratch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Percivalle View Post
    They are free to feel how they want though. I know enough Sardinians in the real life to get an idea of ​​how Sardinians really think about that.
    Probably some spineless people from Cagliari, why don't you interview someone from Barbagia or from the Goceano?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mens-Sarda View Post
    the reason of Sardinian immigration in Tuscany was that your people were unable to run the economy in the countryside which was totally abandoned, Sardinians filled the empty places rebuilding the countryside economy from scratch
    Yes, mostly Sardinian shepherds and cheesemakers in south Tuscany (who now identify themselves as locals in most cases), but not olive-oil and wine makers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mens-Sarda View Post
    Probably some spineless people from Cagliari, why don't you interview someone from Barbagia or from the Goceano?
    Mens Sarda, l'indipendentismo sardo non è che mi appassioni molto. Liberi di fare quello che volete. Ma lo farete davvero? Permettimi di essere libero di dubitarlo e di tenere in cosiderazione anche il parere dei tantissimi sardi che conosco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percivalle View Post
    Mostly Sardinian shepherds and cheesemakers in south Tuscany (who now identify themselves as locals in most cases), but not olive-oil and wine makers.
    well, Sardinia is mostly famous for cheese, less for wine, and not for oil (even if there are some outstanding wine and oil productions)
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    Il Federalismo farebbe bene a tutta l'italia

    I sardi vennero qua a fare i pastori inizialmente; si esattamente quando in toscana le campagne vennero abbandonate per andare in città.


    Forse la Sardegna ce la farebbe a stare anche da sola.. sono 3 gatti e potrebbero vivere di solo turismo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mens-Sarda View Post
    well, Sardinia is mostly famous for SHEEPS and therefore for sheep's cheeses, less for wine, and not for oil (even if there are some outstanding wine and oil productions)
    corrected

    there are more sheeps than humans in Sardinia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percivalle View Post
    I'm using your own glasses.



    A sample of isolated Berbers with lower than SSA average admix can hardly represent the genetic complexity of Africa and North Africa in particular. Do not wanna sound picky but you've been the first to interprete these PCAs.
    They are where they should be and where other N.Africans would be, the difference is your pca is actually weighted with a N.African/SSA signal, when the other pca isn't, Bedouins aren't in the same place for this reason. Mozabite and Morrocans being slightly closer to Europe than Bedouins on yours is due to them have significantly more paleo/meso euro eventhough they have more SSA, which are the two most opposite elements. That's not an interpretation it's how it works.

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    Da noi in Toscana invece non mi sembra che abbiamo un termine equivalente di Maureddo/a

    Forse Persivalle può aiutarmi

    Mi sa che diciamo direttamente "Marocchino" a chi è esotico sullo scuro

    Marocchino capita che lo diciamo però anche a chi è del sud Italia (ovviamente solo i toscani da tante emersioni capita ce lo dichino..)(in tono/modo benevolo però; non a offesa)

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