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    Default What is Justice?

    As the title asks…..just what is justice?

    How do you define it?

    How do you implement it?

    Are justice and the law one and the same thing?

    Is justice a solely human concept and, therefore, relative? Or can we say it is an abstract concept, some kind of universal principle?

    I have been considering these questions for a while now, and I’m continually perplexed.
    I believe that legends and myth are largely made of
    “truth”, and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear.

    J.R.R. Tolkien

    Indeed it might be a basic characteristic of existence that those who would know it completely would perish, in which case the strength of a spirit should be measured according to how much of the “truth” one could still barely endure-or to put it more clearly, to what degree one would require it to be thinned down, shrouded, sweetened, blunted, falsified.
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    To God everything is beautiful, good, and just; humans, however, think some things are unjust and others just.
    Heraclitus

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    According to my Agnostic Front T-shirt, "there is no justice, it's just us".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffrea View Post
    Are justice and the law one and the same thing?
    Of course not.

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    Justice and law seems to be quite opposite lately imo

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    To speak practically and as a citizen, unlike those who call themselves no-government men, I ask for, not at once no government, but at once a better government. Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect, and that will be one step toward obtaining it. After all, the practical reason why, when the power is once in the hands of the people, a majority are permitted, and for a long period continue, to rule, is not because they are most likely to be in the right, nor because this seems fairest to the minority, but because they are physically the strongest. But a government in which the majority rule in all cases cannot be based on justice, even as far as men understand it. Can there not be a government in which majorities do not virtually decide right and wrong, but conscience? — in which majorities decide only those questions to which the rule of expediency is applicable? Must the citizen ever for a moment, or in the least degree, resign his conscience to the legislator? Why has every man a conscience, then? I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. It is not desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right. The only obligation which I have a right to assume is to do at any time what I think right. It is truly enough said that a corporation has no conscience; but a corporation of conscientious men is a corporation with a conscience. Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice.

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