Celtic Words In the Turkish language

[Cavaros]

One doesn't usually associate the Turks with 'Celtic'.

However, the Celtic state of Galatia in modern Turkey is well documented:

http://balkancelts.wordpress.com/2012/06/10/galatia/

and, it is interesting to note how many Celtic words have survived in the modern Turkish language:

http://www.galloturca.com/galatians_...atianwords.htm


Are the Turks then partly Celtic ?????

[Onur]

This is quite an interesting article, thanks for posting it. Let alone documented proofs, we still use Celtic names for some towns in Turkey. We didn't change most of the names, like we have a district in Istanbul today, named as Galata.

I think it was Loki who were talking about the Celts among modern Turks before. Btw i captured the section which shows the common words and expressions between Irish and Turkish;


Interestingly, most of these words are either idioms or slang speech in Turkish which we have a tendancy to use foreign words for these kind of speech. For example, we also use a lot of 19th century French expressions for slang speech, maybe we do that just to make slang speech more elegant and exquisite for ourselves

Some of them are my favorite idioms like;

Ayak yapmak = Deceit, trick someone with a lie.
Badi badi yürümek = Walk like a duck.
Dallama = Fool (lol, this is a cool word)


I am surprised that Irish also have the word "Salak" but i am sure about the authenticity of some Turkish words like "Koş" meaning "Run" and "Haydi, Hajde" for "Let`s go, C`mon". These Turkish words must have been adopted by the Irish because these two words exists in all Turkic languages in central Asia, not only in Turkish of Turkey. "Haydi" also means "Go" in Hungarian language as "Hajra". I am surprised that Irish also uses this word but i am sure of it`s Turkic origin.

[Onur]

I just saw a related thread below with an interesting headline;

"Why did only 6 Celtic words end up in English?"
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32283


So, is that means Turkish have more Celtic loans than English? lol?!!

[Cavaros]

I just saw a related thread below with an interesting headline;

"Why did only 6 Celtic words end up in English?"
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32283


So, is that means Turkish have more Celtic loans than English? lol?!!

That thread talks about 'Welsh' loanwords in old English, not Celtic words in English or English words from a proto-Celtic root (and anyway it is unclear where this figure comes from).

If we accept that theory, there are more Celtic words in Turkish than English which, considering that English is evolved from Anglo-Saxon which was itself heavily influenced by Proto-Celtic, is absurd.

[Annihilus]

bump!

[Smaug]

Wow! I knew about the Galatians but didn't know that we had such a Celtic influence, but to be honest I don't care that much, my heart is with Anatolia and the Steppes.

[Sky earth]

Wow I knew that the Celtic Galatians lived in ancient Anatolia but I didn't know about the influence of celtic words in the Turkish language. But we must consider that the Galatians were already hellenized when the Turks migrated to Anatolia in the 10th century.

[wvwvw]

Ancient Galatia (/ɡəˈleɪʃə/; Greek: Γαλατία) was an area in the highlands of central Anatolia (Ankara, Çorum, Yozgat Province) in modern Turkey. Galatia was named for the immigrant Gauls from Thrace (cf. Tylis), who settled here and became its ruling caste in the 3rd century BC

Seeing something of a Hellenized savage in the Galatians, Francis Bacon and other Renaissance writers called them "Gallo-Graeci", "Gauls settled among the Greeks" and the country "Gallo-Graecia", as had the 3rd century AD Latin historian Justin.[1] The more usual term in Antiquity is Ἑλληνογαλάται (Hellēnogalátai) of Diodorus Siculus' Biblioteca historica v.32.5, in a passage that is translated "...and were called Gallo-Graeci because of their connection with the Greeks", identifying Galatia in the Greek East as opposed to Gallia in the West.[2]
The Galatians were in their origin a part of the great Celtic migration which invaded Macedon, led by Brennus. The original Celts who settled in Galatia came through Thrace under the leadership of Leotarios and Leonnorios c. 270 BC. These Celts consisted of three tribes, the Tectosages, the Trocmii, and the Tolistobogii.

Original location of the Tectosages in Gaul.
Brennus invaded Greece in 281 BC with a huge war band and was turned back before he could plunder the temple of Apollo at Delphi. At the same time, another Gaulish group of men, women, and children were migrating through Thrace. They had split off from Brennus' people in 279 BC, and had migrated into Thrace under their leaders Leonnorius and Lutarius. These invaders appeared in Asia Minor in 278–277 BC; others invaded Macedonia, killed the Ptolemaic ruler Ptolemy Ceraunus but were eventually ousted by Antigonus Gonatas, the grandson of the defeated Diadoch Antigonus the One-Eyed.

[Albion]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_cognate

False cognates are pairs of words in the same or different languages that are similar in form and meaning but have different roots. That is, they appear to be, or are sometimes considered, cognates, when in fact they are not. This is different from a false friend, which is where the words in fact have similar roots but have diverged in meaning.

[Guapo]

Wow very interesting