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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Germany invaded Czechoslovakia and Poland (and Austria) although I guess you'd argue they was restoring German lands taken in WW1.
    Yes all of which were once the Glorious Prussian nation. The allies purposely destroyed it in hopes of a weaker Germany. They replaced a good monarchy with a shitty liberal left wing government that was subservient to USA and the UK. No wonder they raided all the surrounding areas. As for Austria, they are fellow Germans.....most of them wanted to be annexed to Germany after the monarchy lost its power. I am a Pan-Germanist....just not into the Hitler version of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Crow View Post
    Yes all of which were once the Glorious Prussian nation. The allies purposely destroyed it in hopes of a weaker Germany. They replaced a good monarchy with a shitty liberal left wing government that was subservient to USA and the UK. No wonder they raided all the surrounding areas. As for Austria, they are fellow Germans.....most of them wanted to be annexed to Germany after the monarchy lost its power. I am a Pan-Germanist....just not into the Hitler version of it.
    Yeah, I have to agree although these are complicated issues and I think there's a lot more going on than people realise, for instance, Arthur Zimmermann (German WW1 Foreign Minister) allowed Lenin safe passage back to Russia and encouraged/funded the Bolshevik revolution which briefly achieved his objective of an end of Russian aggression on the Eastern Front (Germany and the Bolsheviks signed a treaty; The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk) after the revolution which effectively meant Germany won the war on the Eastern Front (at least until they lost the war on the Western Front).

    After the humiliation of the Treaty of Versailles Germany later divided Poland with the Soviets in yet another treaty (German–Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Demarcation) so it's clear the Germans and Bolsheviks were aligned.

    My view is that the Bolsheviks were a German plot by which they hoped to control Russia but which ended up "going rogue" under Stalin.
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    AJ, to your original question: Is a "Euro-Zionism" possible? I think so. Zionism is based on the idea of an ancestral community, united by origins and experience (not necessarily religious belief). Like Europeans, many individuals who feel an ancestral connection to the Jewish people cannot reconcile traditional theology or practices with science and the existential wounds of history.

    Expelling non-Euros would not be necessary. There is even Biblical precedent for living with the non-kin - they have rights but not the same mutual obligations and loyalty that belongs to blood kin. Yet they had and should have human rights, so long as they acknowledge they are guests living in a Jewish State (Israel) or a similar Eurostate. They would be welcome guests who acknowledge our laws and customs and submit to learn from our collective development of new socially beneficial technology.

    What is better? To be a good Frenchman, German, Italian, Dane, or Englishman? Or to be - in Nietzsche's phrase - a Good European. Pan-European, uniting and sifting the best and most universal cultural products of the European tradition. A modern synthesis that sets an example for The Nations. Like a northern counterpart of the newly reborn Nation of Israel. A united circle of Europeans.

    Like the Jewish People, the European People also have very old collective feelings. Our natures are different, and our inbuilt tendency to ideological purity and absolute adherence to rules can be our moral Achilles' Heel when it is tapped into dark or half-formed ideals. In those times we are in danger of seeing with one eye, and falling into one sided action that lacks meaning or moral worth.

    We err in an excess of judgement untempered with humane kindness at times, and we are marked by that. Inwardly and for some of our people - including some with the best and brightest potential - collectively marked with the crimes of the fathers and grandfathers.

    These are marks on the soul, one could say. We cannot remove them, but we can acknowledge them and acknowledge our debt to others - those who are like us and yet different. Those whose different contrasting nature makes them our equals - if we treat them with mutual respect and strive to find and create new vehicles for reconciliation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Yeah, I have to agree although these are complicated issues and I think there's a lot more going on than people realise, for instance, Arthur Zimmermann (German WW1 Foreign Minister) allowed Lenin safe passage back to Russia and encouraged/funded the Bolshevik revolution which briefly achieved his objective of an end of Russian aggression on the Eastern Front (Germany and the Bolsheviks signed a treaty; The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk) after the revolution which effectively meant Germany won the war on the Eastern Front (at least until they lost the war on the Western Front).

    After the humiliation of the Treaty of Versailles Germany later divided Poland with the Soviets in yet another treaty (German–Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Demarcation) so it's clear the Germans and Bolsheviks were aligned.

    My view is that the Bolsheviks were a German plot by which they hoped to control Russia but which ended up "going rogue" under Stalin.
    It was orchestrated by the Prussian monarchy unfortunately, however the Czars never tried to modernize Russia and generally their overly insane way of managing things proved disastrous for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eusocial View Post
    AJ, to your original question: Is a "Euro-Zionism" possible? I think so. Zionism is based on the idea of an ancestral community, united by origins and experience (not necessarily religious belief). Like Europeans, many individuals who feel an ancestral connection to the Jewish people cannot reconcile traditional theology or practices with science and the existential wounds of history.

    Expelling non-Euros would not be necessary. There is even Biblical precedent for living with the non-kin - they have rights but not the same mutual obligations and loyalty that belongs to blood kin. Yet they had and should have human rights, so long as they acknowledge they are guests living in a Jewish State (Israel) or a similar Eurostate. They would be welcome guests who acknowledge our laws and customs and submit to learn from our collective development of new socially beneficial technology.

    What is better? To be a good Frenchman, German, Italian, Danish? Or to be - in Nietzsche's phrase - a Good European. Pan-European, uniting and sifting the best and most universal cultural products of the European tradition. A modern synthesis that sets an example for The Nations. Like a northern counterpart of the newly reborn Nation of Israel. A united circle of Europeans.
    Or slowly over time have sex with all non whites if our numbers were bigger than theirs....then they woud be completely white washed and none of this would be an issue. I don't know what is a good idea anymore. Non whites though would think that is insane but probably wouldn't protest either. Maybe they would? They would call us insane and we can call them racists LOL.

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