Who are the purest Slavs racially?

[Jana]

Hahahaha, so the origin of Haplogroup R itself does not matter? You are living in a fantasy, Indians are not racially pure, Aryans are not indigenous to India. So if the origin of Haplogroup R does not matter, then did R1A1 (assuming it originates in India) magically appear there with no migration path link with the ancestor group Haplogroup R? That is impossible.

And what is racially pure exactly?? You mean Aryans mixed with Dravidians? They did. But Dravidians are considered primarly Caucasoid by some, and by other Australoid-Caucasoid mix. It's not really clear. They have ASI. Modern South Asians have Caucasoid, Australoid and Mongoloid admixture in different degree, depends on region. But, who say those Aryans that conquered South Asia were pure ''whites'' either? Pashtuns and North Indian Indo-Aryan speakers have strong ANE component, it peaks in Kavkazians and some south Asians, imo that is real Eurasian component. I think those recial divisions of today weren't the same in the past.

Claiming racial purity is kinda crazy with new findings we have now. Some in here even claim neolitics aren't real Europeans either, but dirty WOGs :.
And they are in Europe, well....since the neolithic.


This forum is not always in line with the real world. What's the fascination with Aryans?? Just like Slav who doesn't speak Slavic isn't Slav in my eyes, only Indo-Aryan speaker can identify as Aryan, it's their language. And identity, just like Slavic is cultural term first.

[Jana]

you have much to learn my dear.

some slovenians with Anton Korošec in lead read the May declaration first time in Austrian parliament demanding unified state, while Croats kept their mouth stfu during sauerkrauts booing the shit out of their "bros".So much for Croat "pan-slavism".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Koro%C5%A1ec

In 1907, Korošec was elected to the Reichsrat as a member of the Slovenian People's Party, where, as president of the Yugoslav Club, he read out the May Declaration, which called for all South Slavs to be unified in one state unit within the Austro-Hungarian monarchy. Following the break-up of Austria-Hungary, the National Council of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs, of which Korošec was the president, declared the creation of the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs on 29 October 1918.

in fact, based on these very same events and the merit of Croat contribution to formation of south-slavic state, Serbs never acknowledged to Croats equal rights.Hence you got butthurt since Slovenians had more rights than you did, hence how your =U= movement is formed.But this is a story for another time..

croats were nowhere to be seen, somewhere in the background lol.

Ok, will try to learn!

But you have to read about them:http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrian_movement

[Sisak]

you have much to learn my dear.

some slovenians with Anton Korošec in lead read the May declaration first time in Austrian parliament demanding unified state, while Croats kept their mouth stfu during sauerkrauts booing the shit out of their "bros".So much for Croat "pan-slavism".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Koro%C5%A1ec

In 1907, Korošec was elected to the Reichsrat as a member of the Slovenian People's Party, where, as president of the Yugoslav Club, he read out the May Declaration, which called for all South Slavs to be unified in one state unit within the Austro-Hungarian monarchy. Following the break-up of Austria-Hungary, the National Council of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs, of which Korošec was the president, declared the creation of the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs on 29 October 1918.

in fact, based on these very same events and the merit of Croat contribution to formation of south-slavic state, Serbs never acknowledged to Croats equal rights.Hence you got butthurt since Slovenians had more rights than you did, hence how your =U= movement is formed.But this is a story for another time..

croats were nowhere to be seen, somewhere in the background lol.

^^even if it were true, it's totally unimportant now in the 21st Century. It is stupid wikipedia article that does not mean anything.

[Jana]

We can continue discussion when you return It was major movement too, and some Serbs pearticipated in it.

[Antimage]

i think most similar to protoslavs are eastslavs and poles

[Jana]

this is pure sheeptarism, illyrian movement was a debate club at best.This is Croat antemurale myth, quasi "south-slavic pioneers", while truth is far from that.

but this is off-topic now, what I want us to debate is Sclavonia.You still dont prove me when did Croats call themselves Sclavonians.I want to talk about these mongrel gypsies.

so, to make a short recap..

Slavonia/Sclavonia = Sclavenia = Slovenia = Slovakia

Sclauonia oder Windisch Marck <----- Zagreb Library

and since Slavonians refer to themselves Slověne and so do Slovenians refer to themselves Slovene, while in historic frame Germans refer to Slovenians specifically Windisch, living in Windisch Marck.Hence it would be logical to conclude Sclavonia = Slovenia.

Serbs and Croats never refer to themselves Slovene, this was simply a name applied to us by others since we speak Slavic language.This does not mean we truly were "Slovene".

The debate Club!!! It was MAJOR movement in Croatian culture, when base of our language was formed! Without Illyrian movement, modern Croatian would be very very different I think!

Slavonia is just a regional name! It was Croatian since Croats arrived in here and formed Red Croatia. Why are there no Slovenian surnames in Slavonia than?? Look, unfortunately I hvae to go and will be back to add some toughts. You want to make Northern Croats Slovenes, and it ain't right!

We are really poluting the thread with our debate tho )) Pozz

[Jana]

OT: is baltid phenotype proto-Slavic or proto-Baltic?? Could it be known? Thanks in advance.

[Vorg]

OT: is baltid phenotype proto-Slavic or proto-Baltic?? Could it be known? Thanks in advance.

Most likely, Baltid (that what is meant by him here) - is result of Middle-Age's brachycephalication and borealisation

[Tekken]

Anything farthest away from Scandinavia, as you have Nordid ancestry there. (Baltics, Central-East Europe, etc).
The so called "Ostbaltische rasse".

My guess for purest Slavs are the few Pure Russians with 100% slav ancestry and no mongoloid admixture.

I've seen some moscow people who are this, aswell as rural Russian villages but NEVER in the Asian part of Russia (but in Russia proper)

[Not a Cop]

My guess for purest Slavs are the few Pure Russians with 100% slav ancestry and no mongoloid admixture.

Russians are a mixture of Slavs, Finno-Ugrics and balts, there is basicly no 100% slav russians.