Were the Khazars Udmurts?

[StonyArabia]

Khazars were Oghuric Turkics, but they seem to have been composed mostly of North Kavkazian elements.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Southern Slavs have a relatively large percentage of Q which may related to their semi-mythological Iranian origin?


http://www.eupedia.com/europe/europe...logroups.shtml

Interesting. Recently it's been discovered serbia was where the bronze age started.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

What's there to be doing about British topics? I've done that ages ago. I've done tons of threads about facial reconstruction of Viking, Scottish kings and invaders genes in the British population.

Obviously the original Uralic were Mongoloid or why else than all Uralic speakers have Mongoloid genes?

Turkic tribes were clearly Mongoloid and Hybrid why else than the Indo-European population of central Asia, west Siberia, Middle east, Turkey have disappeared and why is their caucasoid component so different from eachother ranging from European, Southwest Asian, west Asian where as their mongoloid component is the same

Because you obviously lie about your origin so you can't be trusted to be unbiased, which is why everything you say is completely crazy.

[Anglojew]

Khazars were Oghuric Turkics, but they seem to have been composed mostly of North Kavkazian elements.

Do you have evidence for that? Sounds interesting. I do show some genetic relationship with North Kavkazians.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

More likely all have a proto-mongoloid/caucasoid origin.

Exactly.

[Anglojew]

Because you obviously lie about your origin so you can't be trusted to be unbiased, which is why everything you say is completely crazy.

Is he Central Asian? He had a weird agenda.

[ButlerKing]

Because you obviously lie about your origin so you can't be trusted to be unbiased, which is why everything you say is completely crazy.

And what is your origin Melonhead.... are you from the planet of Melon?

Here are Uralic from area closer to Finland and some were already hybridized with Mongoloid.

Comb-ceramics (3500-2750) - Finno-Ugric peoples, who came from Siberia







The closest analogy to the skull early Finno-Ugric peoples are found in the burial Fofanova in the Baikal region (6th millennium BC)


( Russian translation to English)

FACE OF ANTHROPOLOGY

There has been an act of invasion of the Finno-Ugric peoples of Eastern origin in the territory inhabited by Caucasians. Dnieper-Donets culture has developed Caucasians, after which it mingled with the Finno-Ugric tribes. This is confirmed by the data from the repository and Yasinovatka, which (like the Vasiljevka II) is the most ancient among the other cemeteries of the Dnieper-Donets culture. Moreover, it contains the burial of non-simultaneity and divide the period of 500 years (between A and B).

Since culture comb-ceramic spread anthropological type, bearing the features of a "relaxed Mongoloid." In the anthropological literature, it is named laponoidnogo. From the point of view of anthropologists, "there is every reason to believe that the origin of anthropological traits media cultures comb-ceramics associated with the eastern parts of Russia." In particular, male and female skulls from graves 19 and 20 (Sahtysh II), belonging to the comb-culture and dating con. 4th - early. 3rd millennium BC. e. have pronounced Mongoloid appearance - "brain structure of the skull, face and horizontal profile morphology of the nose in two sahtyshskih skulls undoubtedly confirm their membership of the Mongoloid race.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Is he Central Asian? He had a weird agenda.

Probably turkish I guess. Probably very asian looking. I am pretty sick of the guy, though the "is ButlerKing british?" thread was amusing. He didn't even know people from liverpool call themselves liverpudlians.

[ButlerKing]

Probably turkish I guess. Probably very asian looking. I am pretty sick of the guy, though the "is ButlerKing british?" thread was amusing. He didn't even know people from liverpool call themselves liverpudlians.

LOL I just corrected LongCrossbow like a hundred times.

Liverpoolean is the word for football fan of Liverpool which he clearly didn't know despite claiming to be a fan.

[Anglojew]

Interesting. Recently it's been discovered serbia was where the bronze age started.

Theory about Iranian origin of the Serb ethnonym assumes that ancient Serbi / Serboi from north Caucasus (Asiatic Sarmatia) were an Sarmatian (Alanian) tribe.[21] The theory subsequently assumes that Alanian Serbi were subdued by the Huns in the 4th century and that they, as part of the Hunnic army, migrated to the western edge of the Hunnic Empire (in the area of Central Europe near the river Elbe, later designated as White Serbia in what is now Saxony (eastern Germany) and western Poland). After Hunnic leader Attila died (in 453), Alanian Serbi presumably became independent and ruled in the east of the river Saale (in modern day Germany) over local Slavic population.[21][22] Over time, they, it is argued, intermarried with the local Slavic population of the region,[21][22] adopted Slavic language, and transferred their name to the Slavs.[23] According to Tadeuš Sulimirski, similar event could occur in the Balkans or Serbs who settled in the Balkans were Slavs who came from the north and who were ruled by already slavicized Alans.[22]


Hypothetical Serb migration from Sarmatia
Deformed human skulls that are connected to the Alans are also discovered in the area that was later designated as "White Serbia".[23] According to Iranian interpretation, different sides of the World are designated with different colors, thus, white color is designation for the west, black color for the north, blue or green color for the east and red color for the south. According to that view, White Serbia and White Croatia were designated as western Serbia and western Croatia, and were situated in the west from some hypothetical lands that had same names and that presumably existed in the east.[24]
It is possible that the Alanian Serbi in Sarmatia, similarly like other Sarmatian/Iranian peoples on the northern Caucasus, originally spoke an Indo-European Iranian language similar to present-day Ossetian. The Ossetian language is a member of Eastern Iranian branch of Iranian languages, along with Pashtun, Yaghnobi and languages of the Pamir. One of the Pashtun tribal groups in Afghanistan and Pakistan is known as Sarbans (Sarbani) and Pashtuns are believed to be of Scythian descent[25] while their language is classified as East Scythian[26] (Sarmatian language is also grouped within Scythian branch).
In Polish history, the Polish nobility claimed to be direct descendants of the historic Sarmatian people (see: Sarmatism) and this might be connected with historical White Serbia and White Croatia, which included parts of present-day Poland.[citation needed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_...Iranian_theory