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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza View Post
    The '' greek'' nation was created in 1831, and you have not the slightest connection neither with the ancient hellenic colonies, nor with their culture or achievements.

    Gjirkostra btw took the name in 1458, from a Tosk albanian princess, which threw her self in the rocks in order to not be captured by ottomans.
    At what month of 1831 precisely?
    It seems that the ancient inhabitants of Greece at one day decided not to reproduce anymore and have left no descedants.
    Лажат дека немаш море, имаш море зад солунско поле.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza View Post
    The '' greek'' nation was created in 1831, and you have not the slightest connection neither with the ancient hellenic colonies, nor with their culture or achievements.
    And you shitty piece of filth, have the slightest connection with Illyrians?
    You are too small to be compared to modern Greeks let alone our Ancient Ancestors. The history of Greece both ancient and modern is written with GOLDEN letters. Unlike you we can show direct cultural, historical, genetic and linguistic linkage to Ancient Greeks. Don't be so insanely envy. We still speak our ancient language, we maintain a history going back through the Byzantine, Roman Empire to the ancient Greeks, etc., so we pretty much have a connection to Ancient Greeks, we are their cultural heirs. Greeks have always been Greeks not because we want to be Greeks but because we are not and cannot be anything else, other than what we are and what history shows to prove it. On the other hand, it is you and your people that do not want to be what you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plateau View Post
    And you shitty piece of filth, have the slightest connection with Illyrians?
    You are too small to be compared to modern Greeks let alone our Ancient Ancestors. The history of Greece both ancient and modern is written with GOLDEN letters. Unlike you we can show direct cultural, historical, genetic and linguistic linkage to Ancient Greeks. Don't be so insanely envy. We still speak our ancient language, we maintain a history going back through the Byzantine, Roman Empire to the ancient Greeks, etc., so we pretty much have a connection to Ancient Greeks, we are their cultural heirs. Greeks have always been Greeks not because we want to be Greeks but because we are not and cannot be anything else, other than what we are and what history shows to prove it. On the other hand, it is you and your people that do not want to be what you are.
    Shhhhhhhhhh.... Byzantine empire was a very Multi racial, multi cultural empire, just like the united roman empire and nothing to do with italian ethnos.

    You as '' greeks'' as a greek united ethnicity were created by bavarians in 1831. Everyone who is orthodox is greek, this was and is the base of your '' nation''.

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    We love history of Greece we dont love idiots like you that think that only you are civilised and only you have 1 histoire.. Only you..

    "Shqiptar i vërtetë e i mirë është ay që vë gjithënjë e kurëdo kombërinë përpara fesë, nuk ka vëllezër ata që ka në besën e tij, por ata që ka në kombëri të tij.” – Sami Frashëri"
    "A true and good Albanian is the one who always and everywhere puts the nation before the religion, there are no brothers who are in his faith, but those who are in his nation." - Sami Frashëri "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geni View Post
    And where you know that the Albanians had Turkish conscience? Have you living in 1912 or theodoros Psikios say that..Ismail Qemali (father modern Albanian nation) woman was from greece and he say that the only natural brother for the Albanian people is the Grek people ...where you see the turk consience ?
    And what is her to thumbsdown Plateau ,you bitch ..malaka.. true malaka ,you defend greek people from me my tante is with grek married, grek from Albania , my cousin 1° hat grek blood ,stupid bitch..I hate so monkey without raison and humanity..

    "Shqiptar i vërtetë e i mirë është ay që vë gjithënjë e kurëdo kombërinë përpara fesë, nuk ka vëllezër ata që ka në besën e tij, por ata që ka në kombëri të tij.” – Sami Frashëri"
    "A true and good Albanian is the one who always and everywhere puts the nation before the religion, there are no brothers who are in his faith, but those who are in his nation." - Sami Frashëri "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza View Post
    Shhhhhhhhhh.... Byzantine empire was a very Multi racial, multi cultural empire, just like the united roman empire and nothing to do with italian ethnos.

    You as '' greeks'' as a greek united ethnicity were created by bavarians in 1831. Everyone who is orthodox is greek, this was and is the base of your '' nation''.
    Your ancestors were part of the roman and byzantine empires and later ottoman empire too.
    I am curious to know how albanians ,bulgarians and others were calling us before 1831.
    The Greek identity and particularly the acknowledgment that the people of Greece were descended from ancient Greeks never died in Greece.Nor died some other identities within the roman (byzantine empire).If you knew some history you would know.
    Pletho for example tried to convince the emperor to create a Greek(not roman or anything) state at peloponnesus at about 1420 etc etc
    Believing that the Peloponnesians were direct descendents of the ancient Hellenes, Pletho rejected Justinian's idea of a universal Empire in favour of recreating the Hellenistic civilization, the zenith of Greek influence, In his 1415 and 1418 pamphlets urged Manuel II and his son Theodore to turn the peninsula into a cultural island with a new constitution of strongly centralised monarchy advised by a small body of middle-class educated men.
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    Greeks where the first people that succesfully revolt against ottomans with a very minor help from individual hellenophiles while the politicians of the great powers didn't even want to hear about any kind of ''unrest'' that would unjustifie the existance of their own empires. English and Russians offered help in the end of the war so they can set foot in the region after they realized that Greeks could win.
    The Bavarians came in the early years of the greek state which was in economic crisis that caused by corrupted politicans (arvanites included) controled by the Great powers so they send King Otto who quite organized the state after the loans that were given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellLander87 View Post
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    Leave all this bullshits thessalian and unite with your tosk brothers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamza View Post
    The '' greek'' nation was created in 1831
    There was a greek nation since its descent to the Greece in the beginning of the 2nd millenium BCE, you fool. There was never a "Greek" state as such, although 7th to 13th century Byzantium approximated this definition, specially as seen from the outside. Numerous contemporary western historians described it as the "Greek empire" or the "Empire of the Greeks".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordopelli View Post
    There are no tons of North African in South Italy. Only Sicilians have some of it.

    Also the east med component is old and shared by all Europeans. Modern Levantines are heavily negrified.
    Actually, you are wrong. Go check some results you idiot. Calabria has a north african percentage too . HAHAHA!

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