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    Default Mongols are not originally "asian", proto mongols were "european"

    Proto mongoloids had a mongol skull shape but did not have chinky eyes, teeth, or hair, and had light "european" features. Light skin, light hair and light eyes.

    Asians split off from caucasians very far back on the y-dna tree, when C split off from F. F is the grandfather of every "european" clade. I, J, K, N, O Q R. This is signifigant because the y-dna tree shows actual descent. So if you have 90% of a european clade, you are pretty much bound to be 90% european in male origin.

    The only asian y-dna clade is C. This is where the "asian gene" originates, in southern china.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/15/sc...evel.html?_r=0

    The asian gene is responsible for a wide variety of east asian features. Thicker hair, funny teeth, smaller breats, chinky eyes, and a greater number of sweat glands (which strangely seems to be what made this mutation stick in the asian population). It came about around 35k years ago, but it's generally absent in people with the D y-dna clade, which is a brother to C. E split off even earlier from C and is also generally devoid of this single gene, which is all it takes to chink someone up with all the features we have come to know and love from our eastern neighbors (like KingButler).

    Obviously since clades like I and J don't have it then anyone with child clades who has it, got it elsewhere. The whitest whitey clade R has no asian genes, but many people in its brother clades Q and N and O do have the asian gene. These are mongoloid clades, basically.

    Today after countless eons of mongols raping east asians and capturing their women, and taking south asian slaves as well, mongols have become darker and are almost invariably chinkified. However this was obviously not originally the case. After all, Ghengis Khan had red hair and blue eyes. The buddha himself had blue eyes as well. People just assume this was some anomaly or it was heroic white man who subjugated the masses of lesser beings to his will but this is not the case. No, this is simply what the original phenotype protomongoloids looked like.

    People today are too stupid to figure something out unless it's as plain as counting their fingers, but fortunately we have some unmixed examples to go by.

    Udmurts are a good example:
    Attachment 29432

    This woman has a mongol skull shape, but no asian gene, and has light eyes.

    Nenetsians are another great example. Blonde eskimos, basically.

    They are almost all N y-dna haplogroup. They are not "mongol influenced" however. They are simply original proto mongols who have not been autosomally KingButlerized. Finns are high in N y-dna and are probably the blondest people on earth. This could very likely be the real source of blonde hair. That's right, mongols.

    Finns were never influenced by huns or invaded by mongo hordes, yet these haplotypes have been present and pervade the whole of scandinavia. Clearly, this is simply how the original mongoloid types looked.

    Mixing is easy, but you can't unscramble an egg. Dark features are dominant and skin genes are multigenic so you can't really 'become' white except in rare cases on individual basis. You were either always white or never going to be white, when it comes to populations.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
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    ButlerKing's only evidence that N is Mongoloid, is that it originated in Siberia, but according to professor Carleton Coon, prehistoric Siberia was inhabited by Whites.


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    Well, all that is good theory, but knowing life and Kozaks, I'm more than sure they have contributed generously to the Siberian genepool. You know, a bunch of horny White men in the middle of the Siberian winter with no women of their own, had to resolve the boner issue somehow. So, if we exclude their generous genetic contributions to the cause, what does the science say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arcticwolf View Post
    Well, all that is good theory, but knowing life and Kozaks, I'm more than sure they have contributed generously to the Siberian genepool. You know, a bunch of horny White men in the middle of the Siberian winter with no women of their own, had to resolve the boner issue somehow. So, if we exclude their generous genetic contributions to the cause, what does the science say?
    It didn't happen because they are in the middle of nowhere and have just N as their y-dna.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
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    According to genetics

    Haplogroup N exist in Mongoloid populations in 90-100% where European/Caucasoid admixture reaches 0% even Nenets you posted have 64% Caucasoid maternal DNA with nearly 80% Mongoloid Y-DNA

    Haplogroup C3 Mongoloid populations where Mongoloid admixture reaches 100%.



    Why so upset just because I claim North Europeans aren't pure Caucasoid.

    This is why some white supremacist are so brain dead by claiming like 90% of the world haplogroup belongs to Caucasoid even though they have nearly 0% to only a small percentage of it



    Proto-Europeans where black




    I knew it. He just pissed off about the part that Mongolian men with their tiny dicks bang up white women that is why is so hell bend to deny. The only thing they want to deny is that Mongoloid Y-DNA didn't fuck white women lol

    Mongolian DNA


    Caucasoid maternal 14.3% and male Caucasoid paternal 7.5%


    Buryat DNA


    Caucasoid maternal 15.7% and male Caucasoid paternal 8%

    Does he remind you of Genghis Khan?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerKing View Post
    According to genetics

    Haplogroup N exist in Mongoloid populations in 90-100% where European/Caucasoid admixture reaches 0%
    Haplogroup C3 Mongoloid populations where Mongoloid admixture reaches 100%

    Why so upset just because I claim North Europeans aren't pure Caucasoid.



    Proto-Europeans where black

    Can you prove that?
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    Yes. I understand


    Original people of Kazakhstan, Indo-European speaker




    Now Kazakhs today





    Original Kyrgyz, union of only Turkic and Indo-European. Some were Mongoloid/Caucasoid mixed but most were Caucasoid.




    Now Kyrgyz today





    Original Kypchaks were Caucasoid with only some Mongoloid [/SIZE][/B]admixture similar to some Tatars today.


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    However the Kypchaks known as Nogais are mixture of Kypchak and Mongol

    They live in Russia North Caucasus and always claim to be descendants of Golden Horde.





    The original people of Northern and Central afghanistan were Kushans a Indo-European people.




    The Hazara are descendants of Mongol armies and Tajik or Balochi women
    They claim to be descendants of Mongol and Genghis Khan although some Hazara prefer to call themsels the original inhabitants known as Kushans






    [Original people of Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan[/B][/SIZE]





    Many of the Uzbeks and Turkmen retained features of original Central Asians

    Uzbeks were effected by both Turkic and Mongol




    But Turkmen were already effected by original gokturks who were mixed Mongoloid. DNA does not shows Turkmen they were effected by Mongolians at all but by Siberian DNA. Even Turk have some Siberian DNA today.



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    Everybody was European except non-sapien proto-Negroids who descend in large part but Europeans; that is basically your theory of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arcticwolf View Post
    Can you prove that?
    Of course I can in fact I posted this like hundred of times.

    I think he's just pissed about me being so open minded that Mongoloids and Europid-mongoloid of central Asia have ruled Caucasoids for such a long time he would rather that they were white. He is also the type of fool that claimed 8/10 of the world belong to Europeans. So much bullshit imaginations.


    He likes to say shit like Q and R is family of P so both are caucasoid but when I say N and O is family of NO he still manipulates his answers.

    Ngannasan Y-DNA N 95%




    Now let's look at the autosomal DNA study.... this destroys your argument that N was not mongoloid.


    15 testes samples




    10 samples are = 100% pure Mongoloid /Siberian


    1 Sample = 100% Mongoloid with different Siberian admixture


    2 sample = a mixture of different Mongoloid Siberian groups with small Caucasoid admixture


    2 Sample = a mixture of different Mongoloid siberian groups with 36% Caucasoid admixture.



    Nganassan are pure Siberian Mongoloid, there is another study that gives them 5% R1a and 14% Caucasoid maternal DNA but that's it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    Proto mongoloids had a mongol skull shape but did not have chinky eyes, teeth, or hair, and had light "european" features. Light skin, light hair and light eyes.

    Asians split off from caucasians very far back on the y-dna tree, when C split off from F. F is the grandfather of every "european" clade. I, J, K, N, O Q R. This is signifigant because the y-dna tree shows actual descent. So if you have 90% of a european clade, you are pretty much bound to be 90% european in male origin.

    The only asian y-dna clade is C. This is where the "asian gene" originates, in southern china.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/15/sc...evel.html?_r=0



    Today after countless eons of mongols raping east asians and capturing their women, and taking south asian slaves as well, mongols have become darker and are almost invariably chinkified. However this was obviously not originally the case. After all, Ghengis Khan had red hair and blue eyes. The buddha himself had blue eyes as well. People just assume this was some anomaly or it was heroic white man who subjugated the masses of lesser beings to his will but this is not the case. No, this is simply what the original phenotype protomongoloids looked like.

    People today are too stupid to figure something out unless it's as plain as counting their fingers, but fortunately we have some unmixed examples to go by.

    There is more Caucasoid maternal DNA in Mongols than paternal Why are so upset ? is it because it proves Mongoloid men with their micro penis were banging up all the white chicks?


    Like odegei Khan you moron. Looks like a blue eye/red hair tungid




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