Why the West really hate Putin

[RandoBloom]

And I suppose you can tell me who were the natives of this area called Novorossiya before annexation by Russian Empire. Enlighten me please.

Greeks, Tatars, Ukrainians

[Sarmatian]

... Ukrainians, Tatars ... just do your research.

Another ignorant claim. The area was mostly depopulated, especially closer to Black sea coast, because it was a buffer zone between Crimean Khanate and Cossacks. It was called Wild Field and was a subject of constant raids by Crimeans in search of slaves to capture. The first settlers came there only after annexation of Crimea by Russian Empire and they were mostly Russians. Hence the name Novorossiya (New Russia).

[Longbowman]

Another ignorant claim. The area was mostly depopulated, especially closer to Black sea coast, because it was a buffer zone between Crimean Khanate and Cossacks. It was called Wild Field and was a subject of constant raids by Crimeans in search of slaves to capture. The first settlers came there only after annexation of Crimea by Russian Empire and they were mostly Russians. Hence the name Novorossiya (New Russia).

You're the only ignorant one.

The area was devastated as a result of bitter hostilities between the Russian Imperial Army and its opponents, and later completely rebuilt. Major Turkish fortresses of Ozu-Cale, Akkerman, Khadzhibei, Kinburn and many others were conquered and destroyed during the Russo-Turkish Wars and new cities and settlements were established in their places.

It was controlled by the Cossacks and Ottomans and the Russians pushed them and their infrastructure and the Natives aside.

Your view of history is determined by your politics.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Jews dont controll anything come back to the real world please

Does Putin's army of Jewish billionaires control Putin!?

http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Je...h-billionaires

[Sarmatian]

It was controlled by the Cossacks...

Correct. But Cossacks only controlled northern part of it along Dnepr, it was called Zaporozhie.

... and Ottomans....

You better learn the difference between Crimean Tatars and Ottomans before you start arguing.

...and the Russians pushed them and their infrastructure and the Natives aside.

Your view of history is determined by your politics.

Russians didn't push anyone, the place had no inhabitants for hundreds of kilometers between Zaporozhie and Black sea.

My view of history determined by the fact that I'm a Cossack myself and I know history of my people much better than Wikipedia

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Kharkov region was part of Russian Empire even before original Ukraine joined Russia in 17th century. Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk were never parts of Ukraine either, they use to belong to Don Cossack host and Don Cossacks have never associated themselves with Ukraine. The modern Ukraine was made up by Lenin in 1920's.

Ukrainians come from Cossacks mostly.

[Kiyant]

Does Putin's army of Jewish billionaires control Putin!?

http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Je...h-billionaires

Nope they are business man like in everyother business man

[Longbowman]

Correct. But Cossacks only controlled northern part of it along Dnepr, it was called Zaporozhie.

Yeah, the Zaphorozhian Host was one player.

You better learn the difference between Crimean Tatars and Ottomans before you start arguing.

Oh, do I now?

And how would it be relevant? The Tatars are still indigenous to Crimea.

Russians didn't push anyone, the place had no inhabitants for hundreds of kilometers between Zaporozhie and Black sea.

Dude, you're wrong. It's pretty obvious. Like, dreadfully obvious. There has been permanent habitation for thousands of years along the black sea coast and in fact humans have inhabited Ukraine for 40,000 years, including the Ice Age refugium. The area may have been sparsely populated, as was much of Eastern Europe, but it was not empty.

My view of history determined by the fact that I'm a Cossack myself and I know history of my people much better than Wikipedia

Literally every authority disagrees with you.

[Sarmatian]

Dude, you're wrong. It's pretty obvious. Like, dreadfully obvious. There has been permanent habitation for thousands of years along the black sea coast and in fact humans have inhabited Ukraine for 40,000 years, including the Ice Age refugium. The area may have been sparsely populated, as was much of Eastern Europe, but it was not empty.

Sure the area was populated some thousands of years ago. But during confrontation between Cossacks and Crimean Tatars there were very few settlements of mostly militarized nature on the outskirts of the area while middle of it was totally empty. It's a fact.

[Longbowman]

Sure the area was populated some thousands of years ago. But during confrontation between Cossacks and Crimean Tatars there were very few settlements of mostly militarized nature on the outskirts of the area while middle of it was totally empty. It's a fact.

It isn't. If it is, can you prove it with sources? Thanks. If you can, I guess the Russians can have the middle of it.