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    They should have a referendum with three options; remain a part of Ukraine, join Russia, declare independence.

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    Obviously what is going to happen is that Putin will have the Crimeans push for autonomy first, then since most of the population is pro-Russian, they would seek to join Russia. Then full annexation will occur. I doubt Crimea would become an independent enduring state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    There are people in Crimea today who were born in Russia when it was a part of RSFSR. They think they were cheated and want it all to be turned back as it was.

    One important thing is they should meet with the leaders of Crimean Tatars and resolve all existing misunderstandings. Both sides should recognize each others right to live there and respect this right. It will lead to alliance and peaceful coexistence.
    The only real answer to this Thread for example most Crimean Tatars cant even speak Ukrainian but side with Ukraine because of their treatment by the Russians in Crimea (who think of them as latecomers because of the deportations by Stalin)

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    tatars are lost struggle with Russian empire, they are existing today only because of russian kindness. For all their hostility towards innocent eastern europena people (enslaving, raiding, looting etc) they deserved total extermination. Kinda funny hear story about tatar native crimeans here. They came to Crimea in 15 Century and made it pirate and slavhunter nest. Their place in Uzbekistan from they came from
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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Obviously what is going to happen is that Putin will have the Crimeans push for autonomy first, then since most of the population is pro-Russian, they would seek to join Russia. Then full annexation will occur. I doubt Crimea would become an independent enduring state.
    Crimea is already autonomous

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    Quote Originally Posted by glasses View Post
    tatars are lost struggle with Russian empire, they are existing today only because of russian kindness. For all their hostility towards innocent eastern europena people (enslaving, raiding, looting etc) they deserved total extermination. Kinda funny hear story about tatar native crimeans here. They came to Crimea in 15 Century and made it pirate and slavhunter nest. Their place in Uzbekistan from they came from
    Unless you're ready now to go and start cutting heads off you should avoid such a bold words. It's counterproductive.

    At this stage their anti-Russian sentiments coming from natural fear due to relatively recent events involving Stalin. They are uncertain about their future with Russians. If you're claiming to be kind and generous you better support your words with real deeds and start working out how to coexists together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Unless you're ready now to go and start cutting heads off you should avoid such a bold words. It's counterproductive.

    At this stage their anti-Russian sentiments coming from natural fear due to relatively recent events involving Stalin. They are uncertain about their future with Russians. If you're claiming to be kind and generous you better support your words with real deeds and start working out how to coexists together.
    funny that empty rhetorics like that always comes from people who mostly life in places free off Tatars and so on and not for example cossaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Unless you're ready now to go and start cutting heads off you should avoid such a bold words. It's counterproductive.

    At this stage their anti-Russian sentiments coming from natural fear due to relatively recent events involving Stalin. They are uncertain about their future with Russians. If you're claiming to be kind and generous you better support your words with real deeds and start working out how to coexists together.
    Says a man who doesnt want to coexist with others and instead wants to live in his majority rule only
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    tatars are lost struggle with Russian empire, they are existing today only because of russian kindness.
    Tatars lost struggle against SSSR not Russian Empire. Stalin deported most of them after WW2 in cattle wagons to Siberia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pobelter View Post
    Tatars lost struggle against SSSR not Russian Empire. Stalin deported most of them after WW2 in cattle wagons to Siberia.
    My people were also deported at the same time to Uzbekistan

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