Out of the Pyrenees, Alps and Danube, where does the sharpest change in average phenotype occur?

[The King, I am]

I don't entirely agree. People who look like this look distinctly Iberian and would stick out among ethnic French:

The last woman isn't Berid or gracile med and yes French people can look like this

[Tooting Carmen]

French people can look like this

If they are of Iberian, Italian, Jewish or North African descent. Ethnic French people usually don't.

[Tooting Carmen]

Anyway, as I have already said, I want to discuss the differences that occur around the Alps and the Danube as well as the Pyrenees please.

[Sikeliot]

Danube.

Iberians and French do not change immediately, though there is contrast between northern France and southern Iberia. But people on both sides of the Pyrenees immediately before and after look more or less Ibero-Baskid.

Alps is a gradual change.. on the Italian side you begin seeing more AtlantoMed and Dinarid, but the change is gradual and not abrupt.

With the Danube, the change is pretty drastic, with the rapid increase of Pontids south of it and Baltids and East Nordids north of it.

[Trun]

Danube my ass. Alps, then Pyrenees.

[Sikeliot]

The Alps is not as great of a change as one thinks. I'd say that at least individually, most native north Italians (i.e. not including those of recent southern descent) can pass in Switzerland and Austria, and most Swiss and Austrians can pass in northern Italy.

[Tooting Carmen]

The Alps is not as great of a change as one thinks. I'd say that at least individually, most native north Italians (i.e. not including those of recent southern descent) can pass in Switzerland and Austria, and most Swiss and Austrians can pass in northern Italy.

But as you usually love to point out yourself, even Northern Italians have considerably higher amounts of Mediterranean and West Asian admixture than their Northern neighbours, and surely this is partly reflected in phenotype. (Again, I am only playing devil's advocate here).

[Sikeliot]

But as you usually love to point out yourself, even Northern Italians have considerably higher amounts of Mediterranean and West Asian admixture than their Northern neighbours, and surely this is partly reflected in phenotype. (Again, I am only playing devil's advocate here).

It shows up in a small minority of individuals, but not on average. It's the difference between a few exotic types versus almost none in Austria.

[Kamal900]

The Alps is not as great of a change as one thinks. I'd say that at least individually, most native north Italians (i.e. not including those of recent southern descent) can pass in Switzerland and Austria, and most Swiss and Austrians can pass in northern Italy.

couldnt southern italians can also pass in the north? when you compare phenotypes between north and south, they look pretty much the same(only that the southern italians are little dark skin and more balkan admixture).

[Sikeliot]

couldnt southern italians can also pass in the north? when you compare phenotypes between north and south, they look pretty much the same(only that the southern italians are little dark skin and more balkan admixture).

I mean Sicilian/Calabrese, who make up most of the southerners in the north.

I think that nearly all north Italians can pass in the south on an individual basis, but the reverse is not true: some southern Italians cannot pass as native northerners.