Gay marriage approved in Portugal

[Falkata]

Married people pay less taxes than singles, so yes, gay marriage has effects in the whole country.
Anyway in Spain is legal since 2005 and most of the gays are still singles. In 3 years (from 2005 to 2008) just 5243 couple got married in Spain, a country with 45 millions habitants.

[Cato]

Artistic examples of Greek love do not destroy the fact that antiquity had high-minded and heroic men. Romans are better examples than decadent Hellenes anyways.

Cincinnatus.
Julius.
Marcus Aurelius.
Scipio.
Cato.

[Fortis in Arduis]

It is a pity that the security and tax-breaks that these unions afford married couples cannot be extended to elderly siblings who live together, for example.

[Heretik]

ROFLCOPTER! I knew Gaahl was gay, but designing women's clothing with his boyfriend?!?!
World is coming to its end as we know it.

[Svarog]

ROFLCOPTER! I knew Gaahl was gay, but designing women's clothing with his boyfriend?!?!
World is coming to its end as we know it.

[Eldritch]

It always amazes me how whenever some country passes a law that allows a same-sex couple to formalise their relationship in a court of law (I assume in Portugal gays aren't allowed to marry in a Catholic church), some people wring their hands together as if yet another Horseman of the Apocalypse has just appeared, and it won't be long until brimstone rains down from the sky.

Let's imagine a situation where a person who has been in a relationship with another person of the same gender for 30 years suddenly dies. Do we want the partner to be left with nothing, while the deceased person's children and siblings (many of whom probably have refused to have any dealings with him/her because of their "deviant" lifestyle for years if not decades) gobble up their fortunes?

What about cases of illness, dementia, or cases where euthanasia becomes a possibility/necessity? Don't you think the person in question would want his/her partner to have a say in the matter?

And yes, I know I'll be covered up in shit for this, but I support internal adoption.

[December]

I assume in Portugal gays aren't allowed to marry in a Catholic church

Catholic/Orthodox law was adapted to millenial European traditions. It was forbidden by our pagan ancestors long before Christ, thus (not the other way around) it is forbidden by any classical Christianity. Marriage is a sacred physical and spiritual union which elevates the union of two complementary people in a society. Male and Female.

Let's imagine a situation where a person who has been in a relationship with another person of the same gender for 30 years suddenly dies. Do we want the partner to be left with nothing, while the deceased person's children and siblings (many of whom probably have refused to have any dealings with him/her because of their "deviant" lifestyle for years if not decades) gobble up their fortunes?

Simple, law could predict such cases. If they are a gay couple and one dies, surely their lineage ends there, unless they can adopt children. Personally I would be tormented by the thought that society had not only left me without a father and a mother but also given me a couple of sodomite fathers as replacement.

What about cases of illness, dementia, or cases where euthanasia becomes a possibility/necessity? Don't you think the person in question would want his/her partner to have a say in the matter?

Laws predicting such cases were proposed by the conservatives. "Humanists" want something more than defending the rights of gays. (BTW, some socialists refused vote cohercion and stood against in the assembly, they'll probably be subject to internal procedures).

And yes, I know I'll be covered up in shit for this, but I support internal adoption.

No, I'll not insult you like a couple of garbage worms do here at first sight. You have the right to have your opinion and I respect such, no matter as abhorrent it may seem. It's just an opinion.

One of the rightwing parties (whatever "right" is in politics) has a gay for leader. He keeps his private life out of public eyes and is judicious enough to understand that his sexuality is not to be followed as an example of what should be the pillars of society. Institutionalizing same sex marriage is as much destructive to society (if not more) than it is promoting this racial international orgy we live in.

Race without order and tradition is useless and pointless (in my opinion).

[Eldritch]

Catholic/Orthodox law was adapted to millenial European traditions. It was forbidden by our pagan ancestors long before Christ, thus (not the other way around) it is forbidden by any classical Christianity. Marriage is a sacred physical and spiritual union which elevates the union of two complementary people in a society. Male and Female.

That's exactly what I mean. Since I'm not a Catholic or a Christian of any other denomination, I'll leave the possibility of gay marriage in a church between gays and the church. It doesn't concern me personally one way or the other.

Simple, law could predict such cases. If they are a gay couple and one dies, surely their lineage ends there, unless they can adopt children. Personally I would be tormented by the thought that society had not only left me without a father and a mother but also given me a couple of sodomite fathers as replacement.

In most countries, afaIk 50% of the person's property goes automatically to his/her heirs after, while the testor/testatrix can dispose of the other 50% as they see fit. Pretty fair if you ask me.

No, I'll not insult you like a couple of garbage worms do here at first sight. You have the right to have your opinion and I respect such, no matter as abhorrent it may seem. It's just an opinion.

Being capable of respectful disagreement is a sign of intellectual maturity.

One of the rightwing parties (whatever "right" is in politics) has a gay for leader.

Fairly common across Europe. Gays have much more to lose from the Negrification of Europe than "regular" Europeans.

[Loddfafner]

Fairly common across Europe. Gays have much more to lose from the Negrification of Europe than "regular" Europeans.

I had hoped that European nationalists would respect the example of Pim Fortuyn as a far more promising model than any of the figures of 1930s nostalgia.

[The Lawspeaker]

There you have a good point. That's one of the few homosexuals that I respect.
A national hero.