William the Silent: German or Dutch?

[Wolf]

I suppose that (Western) Dutch people and Germans are not the same like you guys claim.

Peoples in general, and large peoples in particular, aren't uniform "like you guys claim".

TA member Ruben's mother for example is pure Northern Dutch and cluster far from Germans.(even North Germans)

Maybe she also clusters far from other Dutch.

[Hevo]

They dont cluster with NW Germans?

Well based on the Eurogenes results their close populations are usually South East English people/Danes but however they don't cluster to far away from NW Germans and there are a few exceptions.

Dienekes had a good study about it, i will look it up.

[Hevo]

Peoples in general, and large peoples in particular, aren't uniform "like you guys claim".

You said that ''between Dutch and Germans is not really ethnical'' but that is not true as i stated.

Anyway, Dutch are not a type of German, it's a type of Germanic, just like the (northern) Germans are. Saying Dutch are a type of German is ridiculous since the Dutch nation existed long before the German nation.

Maybe she also clusters far from other Dutch.

Nope she clusters with Northern Dutch people.

[Visitor_22]

You said that ''between Dutch and Germans is not really ethnical'' but that is not true as i stated.

Anyway, Dutch are not a type of German, it's a type of Germanic, just like the (northern) Germans are. Saying Dutch are a type of German is ridiculous since the Dutch nation existed long before the German nation.


Nope she clusters with Northern Dutch people.

How they existed long before the germans? Didn't they existed since 16-17'th century?



Even their language is very close to northern german languages.

[Visitor_22]

As for english and danes...


They are genetically different mostly.
Only small population from that lands which were under "Danish Law" and people from Kent have something to do with danes.



BTW this danish guy looks very english!

[Wolf]

Anyway, Dutch are not a type of German, it's a type of Germanic, just like the (northern) Germans are.

You're right, that's a huge difference.

Saying Dutch are a type of German is ridiculous since the Dutch nation existed long before the German nation.

According to you, Germans didn't exist before 18th January 1871?

[Hevo]

You're right, that's a huge difference.

Danes,Swedes,Norwegians etc are also subsets of Germanics so yeah there is a difference between subsets of Germanics like Dutch people and subsets of Germans like Austrians.