Hungarian Faces

[Aldaris]

You know better than like Professor Candidate Dr Gyula Henkey ? Who examed 35 000 people (slovakians too) ?

Well, depends on the definitions of terms like "alpine" and "turanid". Why should I use a special term "turanid" to describe someone, who could be a textbook example of Coon's or Günther's central-european alpinid? Especially, when the term "turanid" is usually being reserved for central-asian phenotypes. Adding the "turanid" phenotype for central europeans was unnecessary, because almost all of the guys you've posted could fit into Slovakia, which is of course mostly alpinid.

[SabirHunOgur]

Well, depends on the definitions of terms like "alpine" and "turanid". Why should I use a special term turanid to describe someone, who could be a textbook example of Coon's or Günther's central-european alpinid? Especially, when the term "turanid" is usually being reserved for central-asian phenotypes. Adding the "turanid" phenotype for central europeans was unnecessary, because almost all of the guys you've posted could fit into Slovakia, which is of course mostly alpinid.

Turanid isfrom Cro Magnonid C (bracycephal), Afanasevo, Andronovo. The Turanid have 4 forms: 1. Andronovo (europid), 2. Alföldi (gracile Andronovo), 3 Turano-mongolid , 4. middle type (between turanomongolid-turanoeuropid.

today kazahs more mongolid like turanid many Y dna C, minimal turanid R1a1.
Central Asian europids moved from theirs places before Mongol invasion. Who stayed at home are the mongolizeds. Ancient Sarmatian, Wusun,Ordos, Saka, turanids are andronovo types. The turano-mongolid inHungary between 1-2% other turanids 30%.

[Stears]

Henkey communist era researches are laughable. HE is a cuman, he was born in cumania, and he took photos from his fellow cumans.

[Aldaris]

Turanid isfrom Cro Magnonid C (bracycephal), Afanasevo, Andronovo. The Turanid have 4 forms: 1. Andronovo (europid), 2. Alföldi (gracile Andronovo), 3 Turano-mongolid , 4. middle type (between turanomongolid-turanoeuropid.

today kazahs more mongolid like turanid many Y dna C, minimal turanid R1a1.
Central Asian europids moved from theirs places before Mongol invasion. Who stayed at home are the mongolizeds. Ancient Sarmatian, Wusun,Ordos, Saka, turanids are andronovo types. The turano-mongolid inHungary between 1-2% other turanids 30%.

Turanids are CM?! LOL.
Anyway, such distinctions between central-european alpines and alleged hungarian turanids would make sense, if their origin would have been different. The thing is, its not. Genetic distance between Czechs, Slovakians, Hungarians and Austrians is extremely low and all of those are phenotypically very similar (which makes sense) - most are brachycephalic, stocky, low headed, etc. There already is a term for describing those guys - central-european alpinid. Why should anyone invent another term to describe the same population (the fact, that its more or less the same population has been proven by the slight genetic distance between central-europeans)? Von Eickstedt probably assumed a different origin of Hungarians. Well, genetics has proven him to be wrong. Labeling Hungarians as turanids (different race than alpines) is thus no longer relevant.

[blogen]

West europeans dont know the east european taxons XD
The turanid have 4 forms. 1. is the turanid andronovo type, is the archaical Andronovo culture form,

There were no Turanids in the Andronovo culture. The Andronovo peoples were clear Europids. The turanization of the Protoeuropid type started only in the Iron age (firstly the steppic elite), but even a part of the Hungarian conquerors were Portoeuropids in the 10th century AD!

Cro magnonid bracycephalia, second is the Alföld type,its Gracile Andronovo turanid.

These forms are europid. Next come the turano-mongolid form is typical turkotatar now in Central Asia, but its just from Mongol age! 4th is the middle turanid 50% europid turanid and mongolo turanid. Alpin in Hungary from celts and swabians

Zero Turanid is Europid, since the Turanid is an Europo-Mongoloid type.

[blogen]

Turanids are CM?! LOL.

Yes and no. The Turanid is the scientific name of the Cromagnoid+Mongoloid mix. O

There already is a term for describing those guys - central-european alpinid. Why should anyone invent another term to describe the same population

Since the metric data of the Alpinid/Alpinoid peoples and the Turanids are different. These picture and the table origin from a publication and the classification of these persons were based on the measured data. Presumably a Henkey publication, but SabirHunOgur did not give a source.

[SabirHunOgur]

Henkey communist era researches are laughable. HE is a cuman, he was born in cumania, and he took photos from his fellow cumans.

hahahha clown!

[blogen]

hahahha clown!

Ha valamit belinkelsz akkor a forrást is add meg a következő módon: a szerző: a publikáció címe, a publikáció helye (melyik folyóirat, könyv) és ideje (melyik év/évfolyam, melyik szám).

[SabirHunOgur]

Turanids are CM?! LOL.
Anyway, such distinctions between central-european alpines and alleged hungarian turanids would make sense, if their origin would have been different. The thing is, its not. Genetic distance between Czechs, Slovakians, Hungarians and Austrians is extremely low and all of those are phenotypically very similar (which makes sense) - most are brachycephalic, stocky, low headed, etc. There already is a term for describing those guys - central-european alpinid. Why should anyone invent another term to describe the same population (the fact, that its more or less the same population has been proven by the slight genetic distance between central-europeans)? Von Eickstedt probably assumed a different origin of Hungarians. Well, genetics has proven him to be wrong. Labeling Hungarians as turanids (different race than alpines) is thus no longer relevant.

Turanids are from Cro Magnonid bracycephal C form (name by Lipták) clear europid form wich was influenced by tungid and-or sibirid. But the Europid letters are the dominant. Today Turks like kazah, kirgiz etc more mongolid like turanid , coz in 13th century Mongol invasion gave a big influence to theirs ethnogenesis. Andronovo-Turanid, Alföld -Turanid (gracil andronovo) are Europid forms in Gortva patak Palóc regio the R1a1 and turanid type are 60%! Inyour mind the turanid is half europid-half mongolid and the europid C forms are alpin. Dont problem, I dont know western nordid subtypes too XD

[SabirHunOgur]

Ha valamit belinkelsz akkor a forrást is add meg a következő módon: a szerző: a publikáció címe, a publikáció helye (melyik folyóirat, könyv) és ideje (melyik év/évfolyam, melyik szám).

Értettem! Te pdig válaszolj, ha írnak neked, úgy illik!