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    Just a final argument: you talk on Napoleon as a enemy of Spanish independence, and it's OK. But, what about Louis XIV supporting the rights of his nephew (the future Felipe V) to the Spanish throne? Did he really want an independent country from French policies and interests? What's the difference between Louis-Felipe and Napoleon-José? Royal legitimacy vs lake of it? So my conclusion is that main argument against Pepe has a monarquic nature more than a patriotic one.

    With my best regards, Antonio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hussar View Post
    Hmmm interesting answers (to begin).


    You know, the fact is that although i studied story for a lot of time at an advanced level (doctoral) , i've never done a REAL carefull comparison between the continental European historiography and the anglo-saxon one (i'm almost totally focused on the Euro-continental one).


    I was shocked to read that NAPOLEON is considered like Hitler by some fractions of Anglo-saxon historiography. Take in mind that on italian hisory books Napoleon is almost an hero.......... or at least a positive historical leader.
    The reason why the Italians love him?

    1. Corsica whas once part of Italy, his parents were of Italian origine. He used this as an excuse to be not inlisted als a frensh conscript.(before his military career).

    2. He kicked the Austrians out of nord Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hussar View Post
    Take in mind that on italian hisory books Napoleon is almost an hero.......... or at least a positive historical leader.

    This happens because we are brainwashed. Napoleon was really a disgrace for Italy. The little parvenu was considered a hero only by Jacobin intellectuals and masonic bourgeois (and by the Jews BTW). Common people and of course aristocracy and clergy hated him.

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    Q. Can Napoleon really be regarded as a Frenchman?
    A. Corsican.

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    Once a week Napoleon's librarian would be summoned to attend him with recently published books for him to glance through.
    Napoleon would throw on the ground those books which did not interest him. He would put aside one or two books to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hussar View Post
    Take in mind that on italian hisory books Napoleon is almost an hero.......... or at least a positive historical leader.
    You cant be serious...

    Go say that to the Italians from Veneto or Liguria...

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    In 1804, Napoleon I became Emperor of the French.
    The bee was chosen so as to link the new imperial Bonaparte dynasty to the very origins of France.
    Golden bees were discovered in 1653 in the tomb of Childrec I, founder in 457 of the Merovingian dynasty.
    Bees covered the surface of the imperial cloaks of both Emperor Napoleon and Empress Josephine at their coronation ceremony.

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    -He is remembered in France as a great hero
    -restored order after the chaos of the Revolution
    -gave France a new legal code
    -by accepting to conquer and unite Europe, he fostered the ideal of the European Union.
    -But he also left a legacy of death and destruction on the grandest scale.


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