Romanians are Mongol-Tatars (the elite) steppe and Vlach boor(rumun)-shepherds(shepherd)

[SabirHunOgur]

[TheForeigner]

Weren't Arpad and ancient hungarian elite turkic kabars?

[blogen]

Weren't Arpad and ancient hungarian elite turkic kabars?

Árpád did a coup against the Kazarian supported prince Levedi. But this means nothing of course, his family's ancestry is unknown.

[StonyArabia]

Romanians don't have much mongoloid admixture.

[TheForeigner]

Was the hungarian elite turkic as speculated or stated by some? Why were they called turks by byzantines and why were they europid-mongoloid hybrids,while tha large part of common ugric magyars were europid and uralid.

[TheForeigner]

Off-topic and no offense, but how come georgians and circassians sold their sons and daughters into slavery to turks and persians? Aren't these two Caucasus peoples predominantly or partly christian and warlike and proud ?

[blogen]

Was the hungarian elite turkic as speculated or stated by some?

No, there was to many Finno-ugric name between them onto this. But they had good relation with the other tribes and confederations aristocracy and that peoples were mostly Turks.

Why were they called turks by byzantines

Presumably the Magyars were part of the Turkic Khanate once, so they were the Turks for the Byzantines.

and why were they europid-mongoloid hybrids, while tha large part of common ugric magyars were europid and uralid.

The Europo-Mongoloidization of the steppic peoples started in the Iron age. The majority of the Asian Scythians were Europo-Mongoloid for example, but majority of the Magyars not. We preserved the ancient Europid forms of the steppe (Andronovo type) until the 10-11th century. A general rule was that the aristocracy was Europo-Mongoloid rather, than the common peoples and this is not surprising: the aristocracy mixed very much continentally always because of dynastic marriages. A good example, Cumanian blood in the European aristocracy:



This happened in the steppe too. Some wives from the proto-Xiongnu and proto-Mongol tribes and the Mongoloid character spread in the Central Asian steppe before the Hunnic invasion. And after the Turkish expansion started the common people's Europo-Mongoloidization. We Hungarians were a time capsule practically, We brought the ancient character with us from the our West-Siberian homeland and the Mongoloidization effect concerned us hardly. We were on the front of the wave and this wave of the very Mongoloid Europo-Mongoloids pushed us towards West.

Because of this, the Hungarian Turanid form is very ancient. Once the Andronovo type Cromagnoid were the most common type in the Eurasian steppe, but this race extint until today. Except the almost Europid Europo-Mongoloid form of this type, the Andronovo Turanid between the Hungarians. This is the closest relative of the original type, the type of the Aryan invaders, the Sarmatians and many other ancient steppic peoples:

[TheForeigner]

Those medieval boyas and princes may have been part cuman in origin, but not mongol-tatar and what proof do you have? On the other hand is ironic to hear this from hungarian who love the turkic hunnic mongolid warlord Atilla and who inherited their ethnonim and language from eurasian magyars and turkic kabars and also assimilated turkic cumans,bulgars,pechenegs and avars. I know you also hope and believe you have huns and Atilla among ancestors. Bram stoker's Dracula was szekler magyar noble who boasts of having ''Attila's blood runs thtough this veins''.

[OldWayGuy]

Huzalov is an elite turkic surname ?

[SabirHunOgur]

Weren't Arpad and ancient hungarian elite turkic kabars?

Kabars werent Turk! All tribal name are from a great person. Atilla UtuÚrs nation the Uturgurs, Kotrags nation the kuturgurs, Magurs nation the Magyars. Kaba or csaba was Székely Hun. Hungarian elite was from Subartu, Sabartoe Asfaloi in De Administrando Imperio, its nothen mezopotamia. Leader Tas was karluk turk (bulak in Gesta hungarorum) Tas is turkic word means rock. Álmos , Árpád, Ügyek, Kürt, Előd, Tehetem, these names are Hungarian and not turk. Kündü is turk means litte Sun. Some people and tribe was Turk, but Kabars are from Csaba (Kaba).