Anthropology of the Estonians

[Pure ja]

Yes, but not in region of Latgale.

They did in the past.
And btw, that map is inaccurate. For example zemgals never inhabited nor controlled the Bay of Riga shoreline. There were marketplaces way inland. Zemgals did not reach north from those marketplaces. The coast was fully livonian. The Curonian part is also wrong. Do tell me where in your opinion lived and ruled the famous livonian/curonian Lemmekinus?

[Peikko]

And yet, estonians and finns don't.
The same pattern should apply also to estonians and balts.

Of course Finns and Estonians don't. There's been only limited amounts of mixing between Finns and Estonians. But it doesn't apply to Balts and Estonians, who cluster very well. Feel free to prove me wrong.

Yes, but if those more recent inputs haven't broken the Baltic inner core, then that input into the region of 3 Baltic countries couldn't have been large. The real genetic input had to be further south, in southern Belarus, perhaps.

Elaborate, please.

Relatively speaking.
For making that comparison you would have to include a third language.

Any Indo-European language is closer to Dutch than Estonian.

They could be.
Gene expression is partly independent from genes.

I don't think so. They don't speak Finno-Ugric language.

[Peikko]

There is Nordic and there is nordic.
Nordic = Nordic Council member states
nordic = northern environment + culture / lifestyle

If you claim that baltic-finns are not entirely Nordic, then that means that Nordic hasn't got anything to do with north in particular.
And then those Nordics are better off calling themselves Mediterdic.

What in your opinion is Nordic culture?

[Hercus Monte]

Lithuanians were not much of a seafarers.

actually we were, staring with the curonians. but it didn't end there. both the GDL as an independent state and in the union with Poland had a good navy tradition, especially during the reign of Jan and Maria Sobieski.

[Peikko]

Interesting post here:http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post1016298

[Äike]

actually we were, staring with the curonians. but it didn't end there. both the GDL as an independent state and in the union with Poland had a good navy tradition, especially during the reign of Jan and Maria Sobieski.

The "Curonian" seafarers were actually Livs living on the northern part of the Curonian peninsula, thus the name "Curonians", as they were from the Curonian peninsula.

The """""""Curonian"""""" seafarers were almost the same people as the Estonians of Saaremaa. It's said that they were more similar to each other than the Estonians of Saaremaa were to the mainland Estonians. As there was only 50km between Saaremaa and the tip of the Curonian peninsula, that was inhabited by the Livs, who sailed together with their Finnic brethern, the Oesealins/Estonians of Saaremaa.

"Baltic seafarers/vikings" is just another typically Baltic attempt to claim things which aren't theirs. Like Skype would be a "Baltic" invention, although it was nothing to do with Balts. Et cetera

Balts act like Eastern-Europeans in this regard, well it's logical as they're Balto-Slavs, culturally at least.

[Hercus Monte]

^ that's nice, thank you for your extravagant knowledge of history. (it's funny how you accuse us of stealing your history and at the same time steal ours, I'm guessing you're trying to be funny or something of that sort)

(also, do people still use Skype?)

[Äike]

^ that's nice, thank you for your extravagant knowledge of history.

You're welcome.

(also, do people still use Skype?)

lol, do you live in a cave?

[Hercus Monte]

lol, do you live in a cave?

do you? most people use facebook or google hangout.

[sevruk]

I see a rift of dissonance developing between the Rus and Roslagens

there is no relationship between Rus and Roslagen